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11/25/2022 12:00:15 PM EDT
https://nypost.com/2022/11/18/2-native-hawaiians-guilty-of-hate-crime-in-beating-of-white-man/

Vid at link.


I just saw this. Interesting, as you don't see minorities charged let alone convicted for this kind of stuff.

(ETA) I knew the natives don't really like the haoles(sp) but didn't know it got violent like this.


11/25/2022 12:14:40 PM EDT
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https://nypost.com/2022/11/18/2-native-hawaiians-guilty-of-hate-crime-in-beating-of-white-man/
Vid at link.
(ETA) I knew the natives don't really like the haoles(sp) but didn't know it got violent like this.

I just saw this. Interesting, as you don't see minorities charged let alone convicted for this kind of stuff.

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I was in the Army w/ a guy who was a native from Molokai. He said he would love if guys from the platoon visited him, but he was also adamant that there were certain places we could only go with him cus otherwise we'd face a similar fate.
11/25/2022 12:20:17 PM EDT
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White skin is easiest to spot there...I'd bet they don't beat on those of Chinese and Japanese descent who were born there or call them Haoles
11/25/2022 12:22:10 PM EDT
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Come on, Vince. We'll go pound him.
11/25/2022 12:27:01 PM EDT
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Wow, a North Shore quote. lol. Haven't seen that movie in forever
11/25/2022 12:33:03 PM EDT
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I call BS.  I think it was Jesse Jackson that said POCs cannot be racist.
11/25/2022 12:38:50 PM EDT
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I bet China would love to take over Hawaii if we left
And the guys there who would love it if the the usa would leave ( but keep sending the . Gov checks)
11/25/2022 12:42:10 PM EDT
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Hawaii is Pacific Puerto Rico. We should divest ourselves of both.
11/25/2022 12:49:27 PM EDT
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Totally agree.
11/25/2022 12:51:51 PM EDT
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Wow, a North Shore quote. lol. Haven't seen that movie in forever
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You still have a single fin mentality.
11/25/2022 12:52:17 PM EDT
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Our last night in Maui this spring we were in Whalers Village in Kaanapali eating dinner. A group of local's in their early 20's came through drunk talking shit and really singled out a dad there with his family. Nothing happened and there were plenty of tourists ready to jump in with the dad but it was ugly for a few min.
11/25/2022 12:52:36 PM EDT
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abandoning the biggest unsinkable aircraft carrier in the pacific, what a brilliant idea.
11/25/2022 12:55:24 PM EDT
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Nothing says we would have to do that. Just let them be a location with benefits.
11/25/2022 1:17:07 PM EDT
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I was squadded with a Marine at Camp Perry who was telling me how he had been reassigned to Quantico from Hawaii. I was like " Damn, that sucks" and  "I'll bet Hawaii was great". He said he was glad because it wasn't a good place to be white.
11/25/2022 2:20:22 PM EDT
[#14]
Things you don't see everyday, or

things the media won't show you, ever?

11/25/2022 2:22:47 PM EDT
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Do Hawaiians view Hispanics with the same contempt?
11/25/2022 2:24:56 PM EDT
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china would love that.
11/25/2022 2:25:07 PM EDT
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Buddy was in Kuai for work (movie sets). Some of the dudes in his union were from there and the amount of sheer hate they have for "outsiders" is mind blowing. Another example is a good friend/ex coworker who's baby daddy is Samoan with family on the Big Island. She told me people, white people specifically, would get their new homes burglarized AND vandalized if they left it unattended.
11/25/2022 2:26:39 PM EDT
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Yup. Almost got into a fight with the valet dude at Hyatt Regency in Maui a few years ago.
11/25/2022 2:31:58 PM EDT
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Not sure Hawaiians specifically view white people with contempt, but it’s a bunch of islands with island mentality, so they generally view all outsiders with contempt. There are a lot of white people from Hawaii who know the local shibboleths and do just fine.

For sure, they’re a lot less surly with swarthy (non-black) folk because they can’t quite be sure you don’t belong there.
11/25/2022 2:48:31 PM EDT
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PR yes, Hawaii hell no.  Wanna give the Chinese an advance base close to U.S.?  Fuck that shit.
11/25/2022 3:01:22 PM EDT
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11/25/2022 3:10:37 PM EDT
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I got back last year from a 4 year stint based in Hawaii, never going back.

11/25/2022 3:11:02 PM EDT
[#23]
Great! My son is getting stationed there in a few months.
11/25/2022 3:11:46 PM EDT
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We vacationed with our kids for a month in Hawaii in 2019. Had a great time and planning to go back in 2023. That said outside of the resort where they are paid to be nice you can tell some (not all) of the locals don’t want you there. Never felt in danger, but we don’t go out late or to sketchy areas where drunken packs of locals might be.
11/25/2022 3:12:49 PM EDT
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PR yes, Hawaii hell no.  Wanna give the Chinese an advance base close to U.S.?  Fuck that shit.
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PR yes, Hawaii hell no.  Wanna give the Chinese an advance base close to U.S.?  Fuck that shit.



Hell at times I felt like we were in China. Surrounded by Chinese.
11/25/2022 3:13:26 PM EDT
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They don't hate taking the govt assistance checks though.
11/25/2022 3:15:07 PM EDT
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I was squadded with a Marine at Camp Perry who was telling me how he had been reassigned to Quantico from Hawaii. I was like " Damn, that sucks" and  "I'll bet Hawaii was great". He said he was glad because it wasn't a good place to be white.
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I never met a single Soldier who said “I really loved Hawaii.” But, everyone I talked to loved Alaska if they were there.
11/25/2022 3:37:26 PM EDT
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"fixer upper"

That particular village is full of shit shacks that are sold "as-is" and the particular property shown actually looks nice for the area

There is basically nothing there and it is no a short drive to town timewise.
11/25/2022 3:44:07 PM EDT
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Most "native Hawaiians" are actually Samoan or Tongan.
11/25/2022 3:53:22 PM EDT
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11/25/2022 3:56:54 PM EDT
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I love Hawaii. We try and visit every 5 years.

Like most vacation places, the locals hate tourists. Hawaii is no exception.
11/25/2022 4:06:48 PM EDT
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According to the msm, beating a white man is not only legal, but highly encouraged
11/25/2022 4:10:25 PM EDT
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https://nypost.com/2022/11/18/2-native-hawaiians-guilty-of-hate-crime-in-beating-of-white-man/
Vid at link.
(ETA) I knew the natives don't really like the haoles(sp) but didn't know it got violent like this.

I just saw this. Interesting, as you don't see minorities charged let alone convicted for this kind of stuff.

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I was stationed on Oahu early 80's and yep if you were a haole there were parts of the island you were not welcome brah.
11/25/2022 4:10:34 PM EDT
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Mokes.
11/25/2022 6:02:32 PM EDT
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I was squadded with a Marine at Camp Perry who was telling me how he had been reassigned to Quantico from Hawaii. I was like " Damn, that sucks" and  "I'll bet Hawaii was great". He said he was glad because it wasn't a good place to be white.
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I was stationed on Oahu for 2 years and had zero issues. I'm about as white hillbilly as they come. Marines seem to find trouble regardless of where they are, just saying.
11/25/2022 6:07:49 PM EDT
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The Hawiian national motto "die mainland scum but leave us your money".
11/25/2022 6:13:24 PM EDT
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*Notices the name*

Ahhh... so that's how they got a prosecutor to push for a hate crime charge.
11/25/2022 6:50:20 PM EDT
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He should have shown them his Mahalo rewards card.
11/25/2022 7:21:26 PM EDT
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Lance burkheart?
11/25/2022 7:29:29 PM EDT
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Its Bubbies brah!
11/25/2022 7:31:28 PM EDT
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It is more Tahtian bloodline and cultural that founded the Hawaiian Islands than Samoan or Tongan. The Samoans, Tongans,  and Maoris our kissing cousins.

There is still mistrust between the locals and mainlanders. We don't like entitled people and you guys think we are savages.
11/25/2022 7:37:45 PM EDT
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Lol. Poi guzzlers.



I was stationed on Oahu early 80's and yep if you were a haole there were parts of the island you were not welcome brah.
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I turned down three years at Kaneohe Bay and $10k in early ‘82.  Like the Suck wasn’t bad enough.
11/25/2022 7:46:07 PM EDT
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It is more Tahtian bloodline and cultural that founded the Hawaiian Islands than Samoan or Tongan. The Samoans, Tongans,  and Maoris our kissing cousins.

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So you're a Florida Man and a Hawaiian? I bet even Native Hawaiian's run in fear from you.
11/25/2022 7:50:39 PM EDT
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Similar to what us lifelong crackers feel.
11/25/2022 7:51:34 PM EDT
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I’ve experienced nothing but aloha both when working on and vacationing on the islands. I’ve been to all but a few and explored pretty extensively, and was welcomed with open arms in all but one sketchy bar (that I was warned not to go into) in Honolulu, and deep in the volcano torn region of Big Island.

I’m white as shit.

What are you guys all doing to piss off the locals? Take it easy, respect their culture, and don’t act like an entitled tourist. It isn’t Disneyland.
You wouldn’t like visitors to trash up your local woods or whatever you hold sacred nearby either.
11/25/2022 7:54:19 PM EDT
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They do have interstate highways.


Figure that one out.  
11/25/2022 7:58:08 PM EDT
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Oh my. I wonder if that puts any other groups or “organizers” on notice that beating whitey for being white ain’t gonna fly…
11/25/2022 8:00:00 PM EDT
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I work with a bunch of Hawaiian guys. I've heard some stories of tourists doing stupid shit on the islands who frankly deserved to get their asses beat.

One guy we were working with who was from Texas decided to drive around local villages on the north side of Oahu and go for a swim in some local guys fish pond. Guys nephew came out and warned him to leave, his uncle would be home soon. The island boys laughed at him and told him he came within an inch of being left naked on the beach somewhere if the guys nephew hadn't come along.

Guy treated the place like it was one big theme park and not a place where people's families have lived on the same spot for generations.

All the islanders I've met and worked with have been great guys.
11/25/2022 8:00:30 PM EDT
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unzelman testified that he and his wife decided to move to the “serene and beautiful” Maui from Scottsdale, Arizona, after she was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis.

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Some people just don’t get it

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