Posted: 6/30/2026 10:49:55 PM EDT
Take a watch of this video with Hal Puthoff, Avi Loeb, UAP Gerb, and Rep Burlison: Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy Every time Gerb asks a question about the legacy programs, both Puthoff and Loeb dismiss that as "in the past" and "we need new data to figure out this mystery". Gerb presses repeatedly with variations of "why do we need new data if the legacy program has craft and biologics?" only for total dodges of those questions for more "we need more data so we can do science!" Clearly the UAP SAC has been issued a directive to go along with the Pentagon narrative of "we're just as baffled as you guys and uh we should probably look into these darn things" like it's all new. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: Take a watch of this video with Hal Puthoff, Avi Loeb, UAP Gerb, and Rep Burlison:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZHuAZpLdFwEvery time Gerb asks a question about the legacy programs, both Puthoff and Loeb dismiss that as "in the past" and "we need new data to figure out this mystery". Gerb presses repeatedly with variations of "why do we need new data if the legacy program has craft and biologics?" only for total dodges of those questions for more "we need more data so we can do science!" Clearly the UAP SAC has been issued a directive to go along with the Pentagon narrative of "we're just as baffled as you guys and uh we should probably look into these darn things" like it's all new. Sounds like Blue Book ][  |
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Originally Posted By brass: Sounds like Blue Book ][ Attached File |
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Why do I get the feeling that UAP disclosure momentum is fading? Missing scientists? Whistle-blowers finding horse heads in their beds? Hopefully, it's just me losing patience. Screw the congress critter that wants to go back to square one and drag it out 25 yrs. I've been waiting for this since I was a kid and I turn 80 next month.  |
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Originally Posted By dukeofearl: Why do I get the feeling that UAP disclosure momentum is fading? Missing scientists? Whistle-blowers finding horse heads in their beds? Hopefully, it's just me losing patience. Screw the congress critter that wants to go back to square one and drag it out 25 yrs. I've been waiting for this since I was a kid and I turn 80 next month. I get the same feeling. My opinion is that there are too many things going on, too many topics, to many people involved, too many people asking questions, too many people dancing around the questions... on and on you get the idea. They are sorta kinda trying to make this work but its been a mess. Maybe not disaster, but a mess. Maybe they pull back a little bit and get away with it or regroup and try again. I really have no idea where it goes from here but it doesnt seem to have gone the way they want it to. Only my opinion |
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Originally Posted By TrailerTrash556: I get the same feeling. My opinion is that there are too many things going on, too many topics, to many people involved, too many people asking questions, too many people dancing around the questions... on and on you get the idea. They are sorta kinda trying to make this work but its been a mess. Maybe not disaster, but a mess. Maybe they pull back a little bit and get away with it or regroup and try again. I really have no idea where it goes from here but it doesnt seem to have gone the way they want it to. Only my opinion Originally Posted By TrailerTrash556: Originally Posted By dukeofearl: Why do I get the feeling that UAP disclosure momentum is fading? Missing scientists? Whistle-blowers finding horse heads in their beds? Hopefully, it's just me losing patience. Screw the congress critter that wants to go back to square one and drag it out 25 yrs. I've been waiting for this since I was a kid and I turn 80 next month. I get the same feeling. My opinion is that there are too many things going on, too many topics, to many people involved, too many people asking questions, too many people dancing around the questions... on and on you get the idea. They are sorta kinda trying to make this work but its been a mess. Maybe not disaster, but a mess. Maybe they pull back a little bit and get away with it or regroup and try again. I really have no idea where it goes from here but it doesnt seem to have gone the way they want it to. Only my opinion I think Foreign Affairs are a big chunk of it. All the "news" are fear pr0n about Iran, Israel, Lebanon with the remainder filled in on influencing/messaging the new/proposed (will happen, proposed to break ice for a year for everybody to decide they don't care). The reflecting pool in DC is WAAAAY overblown. UAP/UFO has honestly gotten a lot of screen time and is in the top 5 stories people were interested in, not sure if that holds true or not. I mean, the media is telling us that and they lie and just tell people what they want to be the most important, so they toss an item on that list and a bunch of people will then look at it, making it important. Sort of an "influence prophesy". The only thing they could do to generate more interest in the topic is ban discussion of it. As far as the movie goes, For no humor/family movie like E.T., Day of Disclosure topped $100 million domestic this past weekend and $200 million worldwide. Movies tend to make 2.5-3.5 their opening weekend in a 2 month run, except for freak movies like Blair Witch Project that just kept earning more every weekend). HSX uses 2.7 multiplier and it's close in all major movie releases. Calculating for inflation is tricky as money is worth less but more theaters are accessible which increases number of moviegoers so actual is in between full inflation and the opening. CE3 was before precise tracking of daily income was more of a SWAG since ticket sales weren't computerized, well, not much of anything was, they just counted how full the theater is and there were not 20 extra screens to put it on bumping an older movie off, so it's an outlier. E.T. is an outlier as it's a happy family cute alien movie, not something "dark". By way of comparison: • Disclosure Day 1st Weekend $44.5 Million, Total So far $96 million with another weekend to go this month (Toy Story 5 is taking a big bite and studios reduced screens Disclosure Day play on. It has 5 months and a week to cash out. • Signs (2002) 1st Weekend $60 mil, Total (6 month income domestic) $228 Million, ($426,000,000 with inflation) • E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982), 1st Weekend $11.8 million, total run $359,197,037 (near 1 $1 billion calculated for inflation) • Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977), Total Run - $116,395 million ($600 million in our monopoly money today since 1977). So, interest in this topic is as high as it was at the end of the initial "Space Race" where ALL sightings were written off as communist spy craft. |
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By dukeofearl: Why do I get the feeling that UAP disclosure momentum is fading? Missing scientists? Whistle-blowers finding horse heads in their beds? Hopefully, it's just me losing patience. Screw the congress critter that wants to go back to square one and drag it out 25 yrs. I've been waiting for this since I was a kid and I turn 80 next month. i truly believe something may be out there and sometimes it is seen but i do not believe for a NY minute that the govt is going to be straight about any of it and disclose anything real or true. they re manipulating people for a reason. What that reason is I have no idea. |
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Originally Posted By brass: I think Foreign Affairs are a big chunk of it. All the "news" are fear pr0n about Iran, Israel, Lebanon with the remainder filled in on influencing/messaging the new/proposed (will happen, proposed to break ice for a year for everybody to decide they don't care). The reflecting pool in DC is WAAAAY overblown. UAP/UFO has honestly gotten a lot of screen time and is in the top 5 stories people were interested in, not sure if that holds true or not. I mean, the media is telling us that and they lie and just tell people what they want to be the most important, so they toss an item on that list and a bunch of people will then look at it, making it important. Sort of an "influence prophesy". The only thing they could do to generate more interest in the topic is ban discussion of it. As far as the movie goes, For no humor/family movie like E.T., Day of Disclosure topped $100 million domestic this past weekend and $200 million worldwide. Movies tend to make 2.5-3.5 their opening weekend in a 2 month run, except for freak movies like Blair Witch Project that just kept earning more every weekend). HSX uses 2.7 multiplier and it's close in all major movie releases. Calculating for inflation is tricky as money is worth less but more theaters are accessible which increases number of moviegoers so actual is in between full inflation and the opening. CE3 was before precise tracking of daily income was more of a SWAG since ticket sales weren't computerized, well, not much of anything was, they just counted how full the theater is and there were not 20 extra screens to put it on bumping an older movie off, so it's an outlier. E.T. is an outlier as it's a happy family cute alien movie, not something "dark". By way of comparison: • Disclosure Day 1st Weekend $44.5 Million, Total So far $96 million with another weekend to go this month (Toy Story 5 is taking a big bite and studios reduced screens Disclosure Day play on. It has 5 months and a week to cash out. • Signs (2002) 1st Weekend $60 mil, Total (6 month income domestic) $228 Million, ($426,000,000 with inflation) • E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982), 1st Weekend $11.8 million, total run $359,197,037 (near 1 $1 billion calculated for inflation) • Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977), Total Run - $116,395 million ($600 million in our monopoly money today since 1977). So, interest in this topic is as high as it was at the end of the initial "Space Race" where ALL sightings were written off as communist spy craft. I believe that the high level of interest in the subject is what keeps the story going. Politicians like it because it takes attention away from their negative issues. Public figures like it because it keeps them in the limelight and promotes their interests. We all are interested in it because we hope that someday someone will expose undeniable proof. There is not much that I would like more than to see undeniable absolute proof that we have been visited by extraterrestrial intelligent life. I haven’t seen that yet and I’m not convinced it exists. But I am still hopeful. And I think the vast majority of people feel the same way. And that is what keeps it in the news. And what keeps people watching the movies and videos and podcasts. |
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Originally Posted By Mach: Or they have nothing to disclose and it is all a disinformation campaign. i truly believe something may be out there and sometimes it is seen but i do not believe for a NY minute that the govt is going to be straight about any of it and disclose anything real or true. they re manipulating people for a reason. What that reason is I have no idea. I had similar thoughts with my above post but I couldnt put them into words. This sums it up well for me. My thoughts and opinions are all over the place and Im not hardcore invested in any of them |
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Originally Posted By JQ66: There's no big money and staffs for reviewing old documents like there is for new studies. At least that's Loebs take I would say puthoff is not likely to actually be the kindly looking old man he appears to be. |
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Originally Posted By tawaggs: Look! A squirrel!! This. Every single thing that's happened is nothing more than a money-making distraction. TACO? Every time, all the people in the know bet for or against the market and make bank. Iran war? Every time we throw hands and then pretend to make up, everyone in the know bets for or against oil and makes bank. For the rest of us? A ballroom, a 250th centennial (yes, I know it has some ridiculous numerical name, and IDGAF), a reflecting pool, or "disclosure." Distractions to allow those in power, and the sycophants and bootlickers they put in place, to make money off your beliefs/passions/wantsandneeds. We've been played. Again. And again. My entire Gen X lifetime has been nothing but a money-making scheme for those in power, while we work our fingers to the bone hoping for enough scraps to retire from. Before our beloved country is taken over by foreign... shit. Too late. Distractions. Bread and Circuses. This is all you can expect. Putting Avi Loeb in charge of anything but a school crossing at this point is nothing more than a ploy to perpetuate the endless debate and arguments around the topic(s). Letting him "hand-pick his team" is nothing but a disinformation joke. The truth is out there. It's not for us, and we're not going to get it. Keep believing if you want, and watch those in power make more cash while laughing at you.
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My humble opinion, this genie is never going back into the bottle. Way too many around the globe are being awakened as either Chosen Ones (many millions) or as every day Joe to the truth that there is something there there. The government can only hide so much now. I think disclosure is now in the hands of the masses and that’s where the truth will come from. I don’t need the government to tell me what does and doesn’t exist anymore! Sure pictures of actual craft or aliens would be nice as well as the existence of anti-gravity and free energy, but I don’t have to see any of that or have POTUS himself standing on a podium declaring their existence to convince me any further. I’m way past that point of knowing. I would however like to know who/what I’m dealing with in my life IF they can tell me which I sorta doubt they actually know themselves. I have some stuff coming that’s supposed to clear the pineal gland in 30 days. Real/bogus, I have no clue but am giving it a shot since in my current situation I have little to lose by trying and a massive amount to gain should it actually work! I’ll keep updating my progress with this stuff. It reads like a witch’s brew of strange supplements. ETA I have enough coming I’m going to try and get my 90 y/o mom to take it as well. She is in early stage of dementia we think and her past memory before Feb 3 this year is incredible but her awareness of things after that are not good at all and several weeks/months aren’t there at all. She really has nothing to lose and is ready to die although in great health otherwise. If it will bring back her current awareness it would be awesome! Even if just for a short time of whatever she has left here. The only way I see this going away now is we have a massive apocalypse that wiped out most of humanity and knocked us back to the stone ages, or all of our memories are erased somehow which I think is also a possibility. |