The Public Is Being Prepped (Page 2 of 2)
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Originally Posted By kc-coyote: This seems like the most plausible situation. I think you have several different groups within the gov digging their heels in believing they are correct, however some seem to have more pull than others....with the most pull going to those who don't want literally any of the good stuff released (i.e. only showing stuff from 50-75 years ago that is weak at best) knowing full well we are not alone and the gov has physical proof of it. Originally Posted By kc-coyote: Originally Posted By Birddog15: I'm not sure it is being controlled to prep the public. I think that the "slow roll" aspect of this is due to their being different factions within the government. Some want to release everything but the top secret stuff that we can use, and others want to control the whole thing and keep it covered up. This has led to the slow, frustrating dribble of stuff that can only be squeezed out of the bureaucrats who want to control it. Folks on the UAP committee have all told the stories about asking about a specific event or detail and being told nothing exists regarding that specific thing. Then they ask for a particular document or video that describes that event and all of a sudden the bureaucrats go "Oh, that event!" Clearly, these assholes who have the information consider themselves above Congressional oversight and will only release what they are forced to, when backed into a corner. If Trump would just give a grace period for whistleblowers to come forward with no worries about legal repercussions, I think we would pretty quickly know what is going on. Come on Trump. Do your thing and break the logjam! This seems like the most plausible situation. I think you have several different groups within the gov digging their heels in believing they are correct, however some seem to have more pull than others....with the most pull going to those who don't want literally any of the good stuff released (i.e. only showing stuff from 50-75 years ago that is weak at best) knowing full well we are not alone and the gov has physical proof of it. Every lie told, false document made, backroom deal made, death involved, dollar spent…. It all has legal liability attached to it. Disclosure could mean jail time and bankruptcy, impeachments. The consequence have second order effects are astronomical. Immunity and pardons will be required. |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
Saw this trailer before Spider-Man today. They're prepping the kids too. NOT ALONE Official Trailer (2027) Selena Gomez, Timothée Chalamet |
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
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Originally Posted By sq40: Every lie told, false document made, backroom deal made, death involved, dollar spent . It all has legal liability attached to it. Disclosure could mean jail time and bankruptcy, impeachments. The consequence have second order effects are astronomical. Immunity and pardons will be required. What would piss people off is finding out it's all a bunch of bullshit used to skim tax money and scare people. |
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Originally Posted By victorgonzales: I don't buy that as an excuse why they are "keeping the aliens secret" or whatever. The general public wouldn't give two fucks about the lies they told to keep it hidden. Immunity on the issue wouldn't lose a single voter. What would piss people off is finding out it's all a bunch of bullshit used to skim tax money and scare people. Yup. And that is possibly what is going on. Governments love a boogeyman and always have. |
It's as if a big chunk of our adult population has lost the ability to tell the difference between what is possible, and what is probable.
“beefalaroofabitz” 80's Ads: Reese's Pieces Alien 1983 |
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The entire M&M Marketing team got fired for refusing to pay what the studio wanted for product placement. E.T. Made everybody aware of Reese's Pieces and large lessons were learned, still taught in colleges for business and advertising to this day. |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Bumping this. I’m seeing more and more, expansive, seemingly disparate discussions popping up simultaneously that - to me - are evidence of not only a building zeitgeist, but a guiding hand (whether it’s human or not)… Connecting consciousness with the UAP phenomena Connecting astrology (“runes” is the latest to show up in two very separate pods) with the elites and your destiny The concept that we are here for a short time and need to start thinking longer term than a human lifespan. All of us. Religion is more than just a human creation. Much more. And that the Catholic church knows far more than it’s letting on. I keep seeing people point back to the book of Enoch too. Fascinating times to live in, chaps. |
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Soli Deo Gloria
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Soli Deo Gloria
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I stay subscribe to the biggest UAP youtube channels (JR, american alchemy, la marzulli, jeremy corbell, etc..) just to keep my finger on the pulse of whats going on. Stuff like this is everywhere on youtube. The whole ancient alien/gods thing, evolved from Erich von Dänikens book, seems to be the underlying long game narrative. What I believe we're being prepared for in particular; our "creators" will return to usher us into a golden age.  Sumer Named Them Anunnaki. The Bible Named Them Watchers. |
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Originally Posted By macman37: Bumping this. I'm seeing more and more, expansive, seemingly disparate discussions popping up simultaneously that - to me - are evidence of not only a building zeitgeist, but a guiding hand (whether it's human or not) Connecting consciousness with the UAP phenomena Connecting astrology ("runes" is the latest to show up in two very separate pods) with the elites and your destiny The concept that we are here for a short time and need to start thinking longer term than a human lifespan. All of us. Religion is more than just a human creation. Much more. And that the Catholic church knows far more than it's letting on. I keep seeing people point back to the book of Enoch too. Fascinating times to live in, chaps. Humanity had an open mind about the metaphysical/spiritual world until the Catholic Church shut that shit down with an iron fist and forced their own curated version of the story on most of the world. We are starting to remember and relearn a lot of what was taken for granted by those who came before us. |
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
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So the public is clearly being prepped… but there’s still this fuzz around the topic when people get too close to it. (Ref: Matt Brown on Jesse Michels’ pod… whoever is doing it, is against us getting too close to the truth. My own experience reflects this). With that knowledge… could the public be prepped by the government… to utilize our collective consciousness to break through this fuzz and make true breakthroughs and next steps for humanity? |
Let's Go Red Wings!
Beautifying the world one logo at a time since 1993.
Soli Deo Gloria
Beautifying the world one logo at a time since 1993.
Soli Deo Gloria
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Originally Posted By macman37: So the public is clearly being prepped but there's still this fuzz around the topic when people get too close to it. (Ref: Matt Brown on Jesse Michels' pod whoever is doing it, is against us getting too close to the truth. My own experience reflects this). With that knowledge could the public be prepped by the government to utilize our collective consciousness to break through this fuzz and make true breakthroughs and next steps for humanity? I can't think of any good scenario where we were created . Our purpose is likely slavery. And the realistic result of contact would be a culling if that's the case . I'm hoping that's just a psyop they are pushing. |
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Originally Posted By victorgonzales: I have noticed a lot of the bible/alien/demon/angel narrative being pushed by whistle blowers. I can't think of any good scenario where we were created . Our purpose is likely slavery. And the realistic result of contact would be a culling if that's the case . I'm hoping that's just a psyop they are pushing. Originally Posted By victorgonzales: Originally Posted By macman37: So the public is clearly being prepped but there's still this fuzz around the topic when people get too close to it. (Ref: Matt Brown on Jesse Michels' pod whoever is doing it, is against us getting too close to the truth. My own experience reflects this). With that knowledge could the public be prepped by the government to utilize our collective consciousness to break through this fuzz and make true breakthroughs and next steps for humanity? I can't think of any good scenario where we were created . Our purpose is likely slavery. And the realistic result of contact would be a culling if that's the case . I'm hoping that's just a psyop they are pushing. There’s that whole dark narrative of NHI who feed on our suffering too. Not that I believe it … just putting it out there. That would be a “demonic” thing to many. |
Let's Go Red Wings!
Beautifying the world one logo at a time since 1993.
Soli Deo Gloria
Beautifying the world one logo at a time since 1993.
Soli Deo Gloria
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Originally Posted By Goback: If the government is really in the know and has made contact then why is our space program still so far back? Why don't we have the technology to traverse the stars yet? Its interesting because not one country is really for ahead of the other. If we made contact already why would the other species force us to reverse engineering their crafts? I can't speak to the topic at hand but I will comment on space travel. What we're witnessing today with Elon flinging rockets into space and recovering them is (in my opinion only) akin to the Wright brothers first manned flight at Kitty Hawk. With tech as advanced as it is and AI doing alot of the heavy lifting it could take us on a familiar path. The first time was from manned flight to Apollo 11 in 66 years. This time it could take us from Elons rockets to..... Perhaps in much less than 66 years. |
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Originally Posted By macman37: So the public is clearly being prepped… but there’s still this fuzz around the topic when people get too close to it. (Ref: Matt Brown on Jesse Michels’ pod… whoever is doing it, is against us getting too close to the truth. My own experience reflects this). With that knowledge… could the public be prepped by the government… to utilize our collective consciousness to break through this fuzz and make true breakthroughs and next steps for humanity? It's like "Be prepared. For an emergency." "What kind of emergency?" (Flood different than fire different than tornado) "That's classified, we shouldn't have said anything. Just be prepared..." |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By macman37: There’s that whole dark narrative of NHI who feed on our suffering too. Not that I believe it … just putting it out there. That would be a “demonic” thing to many. Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By victorgonzales: Originally Posted By macman37: So the public is clearly being prepped but there's still this fuzz around the topic when people get too close to it. (Ref: Matt Brown on Jesse Michels' pod whoever is doing it, is against us getting too close to the truth. My own experience reflects this). With that knowledge could the public be prepped by the government to utilize our collective consciousness to break through this fuzz and make true breakthroughs and next steps for humanity? I can't think of any good scenario where we were created . Our purpose is likely slavery. And the realistic result of contact would be a culling if that's the case . I'm hoping that's just a psyop they are pushing. There’s that whole dark narrative of NHI who feed on our suffering too. Not that I believe it … just putting it out there. That would be a “demonic” thing to many. Could it be as simple as Demons getting energy from negative emotions, while Angels get energy from positive emotions. With the Caveat that demons are the ones who can directly interact, staying away from things that feed them (drugs, violence, etc) is how to be safer, starving it and good emotiosn then feeds o it's just a different sort of slavery.. This is just a long ramble. |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
| VP JD Vance has openly claimed that UAP are demonic. It makes me wonder what he is basing this on? Has he been read in on some top secret info that the public is not aware of or is this based strictly on his personal opinion. At his level, I would tend to think he has access to certain intel that has very limited disclosure, even in government circles. |
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Originally Posted By kc-coyote: VP JD Vance has openly claimed that UAP are demonic. It makes me wonder what he is basing this on? Has he been read in on some top secret info that the public is not aware of or is this based strictly on his personal opinion. At his level, I would tend to think he has access to certain intel that has very limited disclosure, even in government circles. Pasulka in American Cosmic also stated that Jacques Vallée was pretty infatuated with Angels and Demons and had many, many books on that topic in his library mixed in among the UFO and paranormal stuff. He thought they were related and she kind of started looking in that direction as well when we get to her second book. I haven't started the latest 3rd one yet, it has a UFO on the cover but has very little UFO direct content (10% from another member here). However, Jump back 500 years. Take something like the Ariel School UFO incident and put it outside a small schoolhouse in a large village, say 5k people. They would be 100% certain the creatures in black were demons from the sky since they were in black clothing and didn't speak using words, only telepathy. Any other incident and sightings, especially with the "health checkup" probings where people remembered what they saw, they'd call him possessed. Crop Circles were a thing but they didn't understand them at all, just the "devil's mower" in the 1800s for latest but non aircraft time where it was just random parts of fields the crops were all ruined. Lots of UFOs in the corners of religious imagery and oral history going back earlier but talking about it was Heresy for the Catholic Church so a lot of people that knew about UFOs were "cleansed" of their evil thinking which was not approved by Mother Church. Lots of physical attributes match and anything unknown was knee jerk labeled Evil just to be safe. So he did call them Evil, but I don't know by what metric he used to decide that with the information he has access to. |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By macman37: Bumping this. I’m seeing more and more, expansive, seemingly disparate discussions popping up simultaneously that - to me - are evidence of not only a building zeitgeist, but a guiding hand (whether it’s human or not)… Connecting consciousness with the UAP phenomena Connecting astrology (“runes” is the latest to show up in two very separate pods) with the elites and your destiny The concept that we are here for a short time and need to start thinking longer term than a human lifespan. All of us. Religion is more than just a human creation. Much more. And that the Catholic church knows far more than it’s letting on. I keep seeing people point back to the book of Enoch too. Fascinating times to live in, chaps. Remember that a LOT of that is from people reading the same tweets and then watching the same TV shows on platforms like Netflix and others where the advertisements and topics in sitcoms rotate around that and inject the concepts so people look and end up on sites they don't find too "woo woo" and then get nudged more and continue. We've seen some of that in this forum with new members trickling in when they'd heard of the forum but then heard/saw something in real life or on internet or TV that made them curious so they read the latest threads (since we only get latest threads without special actions  ) and they might post a thread but usually reply with a question to an existing thread. All the ones I don't tag to not archive vanish to 4 weeks, but not instant to archives, they're in purgatory for a few weeks and then they're in the archives with all the user identification redacted.But yes, people who pointed and laughed and said we were crazy are now chatting along with UFO "things found" like links and tweets or videos, like any other state of discussion never existed. |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By kc-coyote: VP JD Vance has openly claimed that UAP are demonic. It makes me wonder what he is basing this on? Has he been read in on some top secret info that the public is not aware of or is this based strictly on his personal opinion. At his level, I would tend to think he has access to certain intel that has very limited disclosure, even in government circles. He often plays up the "I'm just a dumb hillbilly" shtick when it's convenient. Saying "it's all fascinating but I haven't looked into it very deeply" is an easy cop out when it's a topic he doesn't want to publicly discuss. He has his eye on 2028. The annoying part about all the "demon" talk is it requires clarification. Are we talking about minions of Satan as depicted in the Bible or are we using it as a catch-all term for a "trickster" phenomenon that has gone by many names? Why do they have to be demons, with the modern negative stigma carried by that label, and not angels? Why do biblical demons have to appear in physical vehicles in the sky? It's a gross oversimplification of an incredibly complex subject and using the demon label just causes fear among people of faith and encourages them to ignore it. |
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
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Originally Posted By victorgonzales: I have noticed a lot of the bible/alien/demon/angel narrative being pushed by whistle blowers. I can't think of any good scenario where we were created . Our purpose is likely slavery. And the realistic result of contact would be a culling if that's the case . I'm hoping that's just a psyop they are pushing. Originally Posted By victorgonzales: Originally Posted By macman37: So the public is clearly being prepped but there's still this fuzz around the topic when people get too close to it. (Ref: Matt Brown on Jesse Michels' pod whoever is doing it, is against us getting too close to the truth. My own experience reflects this). With that knowledge could the public be prepped by the government to utilize our collective consciousness to break through this fuzz and make true breakthroughs and next steps for humanity? I can't think of any good scenario where we were created . Our purpose is likely slavery. And the realistic result of contact would be a culling if that's the case . I'm hoping that's just a psyop they are pushing. Virtually every culture in history says we were created by a higher intelligence. |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By brass: Could it be as simple as Demons getting energy from negative emotions, while Angels get energy from positive emotions. With the Caveat that demons are the ones who can directly interact, staying away from things that feed them (drugs, violence, etc) is how to be safer, starving it and good emotiosn then feeds o it's just a different sort of slavery.. This is just a long ramble. Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By victorgonzales: Originally Posted By macman37: So the public is clearly being prepped but there's still this fuzz around the topic when people get too close to it. (Ref: Matt Brown on Jesse Michels' pod whoever is doing it, is against us getting too close to the truth. My own experience reflects this). With that knowledge could the public be prepped by the government to utilize our collective consciousness to break through this fuzz and make true breakthroughs and next steps for humanity? I can't think of any good scenario where we were created . Our purpose is likely slavery. And the realistic result of contact would be a culling if that's the case . I'm hoping that's just a psyop they are pushing. There’s that whole dark narrative of NHI who feed on our suffering too. Not that I believe it … just putting it out there. That would be a “demonic” thing to many. Could it be as simple as Demons getting energy from negative emotions, while Angels get energy from positive emotions. With the Caveat that demons are the ones who can directly interact, staying away from things that feed them (drugs, violence, etc) is how to be safer, starving it and good emotiosn then feeds o it's just a different sort of slavery.. This is just a long ramble. Good and bad emotions are a fuzzy line, especially measured against societal/religious norms that often punish things that feel good or bring joy. |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By brass: Remember that a LOT of that is from people reading the same tweets and then watching the same TV shows on platforms like Netflix and others where the advertisements and topics in sitcoms rotate around that and inject the concepts so people look and end up on sites they don't find too "woo woo" and then get nudged more and continue. We've seen some of that in this forum with new members trickling in when they'd heard of the forum but then heard/saw something in real life or on internet or TV that made them curious so they read the latest threads (since we only get latest threads without special actions ) and they might post a thread but usually reply with a question to an existing thread. All the ones I don't tag to not archive vanish to 4 weeks, but not instant to archives, they're in purgatory for a few weeks and then they're in the archives with all the user identification redacted.But yes, people who pointed and laughed and said we were crazy are now chatting along with UFO "things found" like links and tweets or videos, like any other state of discussion never existed. Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By macman37: Bumping this. I’m seeing more and more, expansive, seemingly disparate discussions popping up simultaneously that - to me - are evidence of not only a building zeitgeist, but a guiding hand (whether it’s human or not)… Connecting consciousness with the UAP phenomena Connecting astrology (“runes” is the latest to show up in two very separate pods) with the elites and your destiny The concept that we are here for a short time and need to start thinking longer term than a human lifespan. All of us. Religion is more than just a human creation. Much more. And that the Catholic church knows far more than it’s letting on. I keep seeing people point back to the book of Enoch too. Fascinating times to live in, chaps. Remember that a LOT of that is from people reading the same tweets and then watching the same TV shows on platforms like Netflix and others where the advertisements and topics in sitcoms rotate around that and inject the concepts so people look and end up on sites they don't find too "woo woo" and then get nudged more and continue. We've seen some of that in this forum with new members trickling in when they'd heard of the forum but then heard/saw something in real life or on internet or TV that made them curious so they read the latest threads (since we only get latest threads without special actions ) and they might post a thread but usually reply with a question to an existing thread. All the ones I don't tag to not archive vanish to 4 weeks, but not instant to archives, they're in purgatory for a few weeks and then they're in the archives with all the user identification redacted.But yes, people who pointed and laughed and said we were crazy are now chatting along with UFO "things found" like links and tweets or videos, like any other state of discussion never existed. I tried to iron the possibility of them just reading the same thing and reporting on it out. I’m referring to genuine synchronicities that are provable due to production timelines and circles of knowledge. For example, all of a sudden people are talking about astrological runes and sigils, why is that. If there’s a press release calendar for woo-woo topics to discuss I’m not aware of it.  … I’m also aware that people do tours on pods etc. when their books come out. Pasulka, Jacobsen, etc., are prime examples. This is not that.I kind of wanted to list these things out, just to have them “out there” so I can refer back to them… For the last few years I’ve really been trying to put the whole picture together (I know, lots of people have!) the problem is, there is this mental wall I’ve referred to before (here even) that makes me fuzz out when I think about connecting certain topics (consciousness, the reasons behind the way things are, like the zeitgeist I mentioned above). I attributed it to my monkey brain just not having the horsepower to muscle through it, but hearing others (Jesse Michels/Matt Brown) talk about the same exact thing made my ears perk up. I felt a little better about my mental horsepower. Clearly others have this issue too. They call it something slightly different but it’s the same thing.
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Let's Go Red Wings!
Beautifying the world one logo at a time since 1993.
Soli Deo Gloria
Beautifying the world one logo at a time since 1993.
Soli Deo Gloria
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: JD is just saying that to appease his deeply religious supporters. He seems too intelligent to actually believe UAP are literal biblical demons and he talks like he doesn't know any more than the rest of us about the topic, which is probably accurate. He often plays up the "I'm just a dumb hillbilly" shtick when it's convenient. Saying "it's all fascinating but I haven't looked into it very deeply" is an easy cop out when it's a topic he doesn't want to publicly discuss. He has his eye on 2028. The annoying part about all the "demon" talk is it requires clarification. Are we talking about minions of Satan as depicted in the Bible or are we using it as a catch-all term for a "trickster" phenomenon that has gone by many names? Why do they have to be demons, with the modern negative stigma carried by that label, and not angels? Why do biblical demons have to appear in physical vehicles in the sky? It's a gross oversimplification of an incredibly complex subject and using the demon label just causes fear among people of faith and encourages them to ignore it. In addition to JD Vance making this claim, for awhile there was talk of this same thing coming from within the government itself implying that people in the know believed they were demonic. They never clarified if these were blanket statements from people in the gov who did NOT have inside knowledge or were involved in the UAP program. |
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Originally Posted By kc-coyote: In addition to JD Vance making this claim, for awhile there was talk of this same thing coming from within the government itself implying that people in the know believed they were demonic. They never clarified if these were blanket statements from people in the gov who did NOT have inside knowledge or were involved in the UAP program. Originally Posted By kc-coyote: Originally Posted By Cypher214: JD is just saying that to appease his deeply religious supporters. He seems too intelligent to actually believe UAP are literal biblical demons and he talks like he doesn't know any more than the rest of us about the topic, which is probably accurate. He often plays up the "I'm just a dumb hillbilly" shtick when it's convenient. Saying "it's all fascinating but I haven't looked into it very deeply" is an easy cop out when it's a topic he doesn't want to publicly discuss. He has his eye on 2028. The annoying part about all the "demon" talk is it requires clarification. Are we talking about minions of Satan as depicted in the Bible or are we using it as a catch-all term for a "trickster" phenomenon that has gone by many names? Why do they have to be demons, with the modern negative stigma carried by that label, and not angels? Why do biblical demons have to appear in physical vehicles in the sky? It's a gross oversimplification of an incredibly complex subject and using the demon label just causes fear among people of faith and encourages them to ignore it. In addition to JD Vance making this claim, for awhile there was talk of this same thing coming from within the government itself implying that people in the know believed they were demonic. They never clarified if these were blanket statements from people in the gov who did NOT have inside knowledge or were involved in the UAP program. The big thing here is there is a group of highly placed Mormons in the government/military (and I can’t recall right now who said it first, Annie Jacobsen or Diana Pasulka, it was in one of their books) that are guiding a bit of this narrative. |
Let's Go Red Wings!
Beautifying the world one logo at a time since 1993.
Soli Deo Gloria
Beautifying the world one logo at a time since 1993.
Soli Deo Gloria
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Originally Posted By kc-coyote: In addition to JD Vance making this claim, for awhile there was talk of this same thing coming from within the government itself implying that people in the know believed they were demonic. They never clarified if these were blanket statements from people in the gov who did NOT have inside knowledge or were involved in the UAP program. Originally Posted By kc-coyote: Originally Posted By Cypher214: JD is just saying that to appease his deeply religious supporters. He seems too intelligent to actually believe UAP are literal biblical demons and he talks like he doesn't know any more than the rest of us about the topic, which is probably accurate. He often plays up the "I'm just a dumb hillbilly" shtick when it's convenient. Saying "it's all fascinating but I haven't looked into it very deeply" is an easy cop out when it's a topic he doesn't want to publicly discuss. He has his eye on 2028. The annoying part about all the "demon" talk is it requires clarification. Are we talking about minions of Satan as depicted in the Bible or are we using it as a catch-all term for a "trickster" phenomenon that has gone by many names? Why do they have to be demons, with the modern negative stigma carried by that label, and not angels? Why do biblical demons have to appear in physical vehicles in the sky? It's a gross oversimplification of an incredibly complex subject and using the demon label just causes fear among people of faith and encourages them to ignore it. In addition to JD Vance making this claim, for awhile there was talk of this same thing coming from within the government itself implying that people in the know believed they were demonic. They never clarified if these were blanket statements from people in the gov who did NOT have inside knowledge or were involved in the UAP program. Just because someone has stars on their lapel, it doesn't mean they're a rational thinker. Anything without an easy category will always get compartmentalized according to someone's existing bias. The UFO phenomenon requires an open mind, not a black and white materialist worldview. |
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
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Originally Posted By macman37: The big thing here is there is a group of highly placed Mormons in the government/military (and I can't recall right now who said it first, Annie Jacobsen or Diana Pasulka, it was in one of their books) that are guiding a bit of this narrative. Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By kc-coyote: Originally Posted By Cypher214: JD is just saying that to appease his deeply religious supporters. He seems too intelligent to actually believe UAP are literal biblical demons and he talks like he doesn't know any more than the rest of us about the topic, which is probably accurate. He often plays up the "I'm just a dumb hillbilly" shtick when it's convenient. Saying "it's all fascinating but I haven't looked into it very deeply" is an easy cop out when it's a topic he doesn't want to publicly discuss. He has his eye on 2028. The annoying part about all the "demon" talk is it requires clarification. Are we talking about minions of Satan as depicted in the Bible or are we using it as a catch-all term for a "trickster" phenomenon that has gone by many names? Why do they have to be demons, with the modern negative stigma carried by that label, and not angels? Why do biblical demons have to appear in physical vehicles in the sky? It's a gross oversimplification of an incredibly complex subject and using the demon label just causes fear among people of faith and encourages them to ignore it. In addition to JD Vance making this claim, for awhile there was talk of this same thing coming from within the government itself implying that people in the know believed they were demonic. They never clarified if these were blanket statements from people in the gov who did NOT have inside knowledge or were involved in the UAP program. The big thing here is there is a group of highly placed Mormons in the government/military (and I can't recall right now who said it first, Annie Jacobsen or Diana Pasulka, it was in one of their books) that are guiding a bit of this narrative. It's not an easy pill to swallow, asking someone to accept that the core of their religious beliefs are based around a more primitive culture's interpretation of the exact same phenomenon we're experiencing today. |
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Originally Posted By sq40: Virtually every culture in history says we were created by a higher intelligence. Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By victorgonzales: Originally Posted By macman37: So the public is clearly being prepped but there's still this fuzz around the topic when people get too close to it. (Ref: Matt Brown on Jesse Michels' pod whoever is doing it, is against us getting too close to the truth. My own experience reflects this). With that knowledge could the public be prepped by the government to utilize our collective consciousness to break through this fuzz and make true breakthroughs and next steps for humanity? I can't think of any good scenario where we were created . Our purpose is likely slavery. And the realistic result of contact would be a culling if that's the case . I'm hoping that's just a psyop they are pushing. Virtually every culture in history says we were created by a higher intelligence. That could easily be interpreted as "we were dumb apes doing normal animal stuff in harmony with nature until consciousness emerged and caused us to question our existence, fight for resources, etc". The idea has a lot of crossover with both the stoned ape theory and the hybridization hypothesis. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: The really interesting bit is virtually every culture in history has a narrative that suggests everything was fine until somebody came along with "knowledge" that fucked everything up. That could easily be interpreted as "we were dumb apes doing normal animal stuff in harmony with nature until consciousness emerged and caused us to question our existence, fight for resources, etc". The idea has a lot of crossover with both the stoned ape theory and the hybridization hypothesis. Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By victorgonzales: Originally Posted By macman37: So the public is clearly being prepped but there's still this fuzz around the topic when people get too close to it. (Ref: Matt Brown on Jesse Michels' pod whoever is doing it, is against us getting too close to the truth. My own experience reflects this). With that knowledge could the public be prepped by the government to utilize our collective consciousness to break through this fuzz and make true breakthroughs and next steps for humanity? I can't think of any good scenario where we were created . Our purpose is likely slavery. And the realistic result of contact would be a culling if that's the case . I'm hoping that's just a psyop they are pushing. Virtually every culture in history says we were created by a higher intelligence. That could easily be interpreted as "we were dumb apes doing normal animal stuff in harmony with nature until consciousness emerged and caused us to question our existence, fight for resources, etc". The idea has a lot of crossover with both the stoned ape theory and the hybridization hypothesis. That is quite astute and it does imply that ignorance is bliss, or at least, not having higher thinking, or maybe just a curious mind. |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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He's... not. He just has some... convictions that set him apart from what you might term as "fringe believers," even if they happen to be right. Then he shouts about it, to gain clicks, moneys, and influence. In reality, he's the opposite of "retarded," as he's probably a lot wealthier and (unfortunately) more influential than any of us will ever be. As the resident skeptic, and occasional debunk-attempter, there are vastly more reasonable ways to go about it than he does. A more accurate description of him might be he's the Maury Povich/Dr. Phil/Daytime-Talk-Show-Host-Of-Your-Choice version of Science. He will defend the status quo until he dies, and consider nothing else, because that's what is audience wants. That doesn't make him wrong, most of the time. It just makes him an ass, all of the time. |
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Some labels are useful. Labeling NHI as being demons is delivering a straight forward message in a single word. It is not a positive connotation. You know a tiger is dangerous so you don’t approach it. Someone tells you a place is haunted you treat the location with more awareness and caution, even if you may not believe in ghosts. The phenomenon is apparently real and statistically dangerous. For those who claim interaction with NHI how many had favorable outcomes? Havana syndrome, radiation poisoning, mutilations, a form of rape, medical experimentation, abduction, murder, and a lasting psychological distancing from society are but a few of the potential consequences of interaction. Hell, think about Farmer Bob’s flattened crops, Rancher Dave’s mutilated cows, and Jimbo’s fried wiring harness on his 67’ Camaro and the conclusion I am left with is: NHI are assholes. |
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: He's... not. He just has some... convictions that set him apart from what you might term as "fringe believers," even if they happen to be right. Then he shouts about it, to gain clicks, moneys, and influence. In reality, he's the opposite of "retarded," as he's probably a lot wealthier and (unfortunately) more influential than any of us will ever be. As the resident skeptic, and occasional debunk-attempter, there are vastly more reasonable ways to go about it than he does. A more accurate description of him might be he's the Maury Povich/Dr. Phil/Daytime-Talk-Show-Host-Of-Your-Choice version of Science. He will defend the status quo until he dies, and consider nothing else, because that's what is audience wants. That doesn't make him wrong, most of the time. It just makes him an ass, all of the time. Originally Posted By Kagetora: He's... not. He just has some... convictions that set him apart from what you might term as "fringe believers," even if they happen to be right. Then he shouts about it, to gain clicks, moneys, and influence. In reality, he's the opposite of "retarded," as he's probably a lot wealthier and (unfortunately) more influential than any of us will ever be. As the resident skeptic, and occasional debunk-attempter, there are vastly more reasonable ways to go about it than he does. A more accurate description of him might be he's the Maury Povich/Dr. Phil/Daytime-Talk-Show-Host-Of-Your-Choice version of Science. He will defend the status quo until he dies, and consider nothing else, because that's what is audience wants. That doesn't make him wrong, most of the time. It just makes him an ass, all of the time. It was a good bit beyond that honestly. He would ridicule anyone who brought NHI and UFOs up to him. There’s gotta be a hundred clips out there of him rejecting and attacking people for talking about this. I’m not gonna go looking for them, he was just so adamant that none of this was real. And now he’s done a 180*, and he’s seen the NHI light and wants to lead the conversation there. He didn’t have to go as hard at experiencers and believers, but he did anyway. He could have been more like Dr. Michio Kaku but chose - proverbial - violence. |
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Originally Posted By Cheesebeast: Some labels are useful. Labeling NHI as being demons is delivering a straight forward message in a single word. It is not a positive connotation. You know a tiger is dangerous so you don't approach it. Someone tells you a place is haunted you treat the location with more awareness and caution, even if you may not believe in ghosts. The phenomenon is apparently real and statistically dangerous. For those who claim interaction with NHI how many had favorable outcomes? Havana syndrome, radiation poisoning, mutilations, a form of rape, medical experimentation, abduction, murder, and a lasting psychological distancing from society are but a few of the potential consequences of interaction. Hell, think about Farmer Bob's flattened crops, Rancher Dave's mutilated cows, and Jimbo's fried wiring harness on his 67' Camaro and the conclusion I am left with is: NHI are assholes. That's not how a rational mind works. |
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Originally Posted By macman37: I tried to iron the possibility of them just reading the same thing and reporting on it out. I’m referring to genuine synchronicities that are provable due to production timelines and circles of knowledge. For example, all of a sudden people are talking about astrological runes and sigils, why is that. If there’s a press release calendar for woo-woo topics to discuss I’m not aware of it. … I’m also aware that people do tours on pods etc. when their books come out. Pasulka, Jacobsen, etc., are prime examples. This is not that.I kind of wanted to list these things out, just to have them “out there” so I can refer back to them… For the last few years I’ve really been trying to put the whole picture together (I know, lots of people have!) the problem is, there is this mental wall I’ve referred to before (here even) that makes me fuzz out when I think about connecting certain topics (consciousness, the reasons behind the way things are, like the zeitgeist I mentioned above). I attributed it to my monkey brain just not having the horsepower to muscle through it, but hearing others (Jesse Michels/Matt Brown) talk about the same exact thing made my ears perk up. I felt a little better about my mental horsepower. Clearly others have this issue too. They call it something slightly different but it’s the same thing.You must not grasp or think that the Google algorithms can make people think radically differently in a rapid fashion. Clancy trial poisoning, UFO going further and further to the "woo woo" side of things. People still trust searches and big old media sites, and it only takes a few of them to talk about the same thing in the same 72 hour period and it's not in the zeitgeist because everybody is talking about it, without anybody being able to put their finger on "this was it" for the 'start' of the changes. Then, not to be that snobbish guy, but people are sheep. Not in the "sheeple" way as a write off that our beliefs our superior to theirs, (though NPC I can get behind but that's a side track). People are social animals and social media is mostly controlled by just a few people with the ability to push a directive to Old Media so they can stay relevant then nudge the algorithms to add 2% more attention to topics related to the 70s pyramid/rune/crystal power and +5% more for UFO discussions, possibly with some contrary information added so as to poison it. Inside a week, we have gone from talking about pyramids, runes, hieroglyphics, crystal pyramids as "a bit too woo woo" to being mainline discussions and I honestly can't find anything valid kicking it off other than dredging up Van Danikens books (which really got the bible wrong to try and make a point, though Sitchin did far worse crimes by mixing modern Hebrew into biblical Hebrew, definite plagiarism then used a made up translation of his altered text. ) Add in the New Age types that have been that way since the 70s since that was what their mom believed (before they had universal blue hair dye to mark them) and now stop going by their middle name and start a youtube channel under moonbeam ascension or whatever and just drop acid and light incense and go "omm" for 2 hours and somehow get tons of followers without actually making any sort of statement, maybe meditation instruction?. |
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: He's... not. He just has some... convictions that set him apart from what you might term as "fringe believers," even if they happen to be right. Then he shouts about it, to gain clicks, moneys, and influence. In reality, he's the opposite of "retarded," as he's probably a lot wealthier and (unfortunately) more influential than any of us will ever be. As the resident skeptic, and occasional debunk-attempter, there are vastly more reasonable ways to go about it than he does. A more accurate description of him might be he's the Maury Povich/Dr. Phil/Daytime-Talk-Show-Host-Of-Your-Choice version of Science. He will defend the status quo until he dies, and consider nothing else, because that's what is audience wants. That doesn't make him wrong, most of the time. It just makes him an ass, all of the time. Originally Posted By Kagetora: He's... not. He just has some... convictions that set him apart from what you might term as "fringe believers," even if they happen to be right. Then he shouts about it, to gain clicks, moneys, and influence. In reality, he's the opposite of "retarded," as he's probably a lot wealthier and (unfortunately) more influential than any of us will ever be. As the resident skeptic, and occasional debunk-attempter, there are vastly more reasonable ways to go about it than he does. A more accurate description of him might be he's the Maury Povich/Dr. Phil/Daytime-Talk-Show-Host-Of-Your-Choice version of Science. He will defend the status quo until he dies, and consider nothing else, because that's what is audience wants. That doesn't make him wrong, most of the time. It just makes him an ass, all of the time. He's basically https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics?useskin=vector explaining to the world leading scientific theories - not because he's right, but because he uses words they know. He can argue against other things using those same words, because they're not on https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics?useskin=vector |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By brass: You must not grasp or think that the Google algorithms can make people think radically differently in a rapid fashion. Clancy trial poisoning, UFO going further and further to the "woo woo" side of things. People still trust searches and big old media sites, and it only takes a few of them to talk about the same thing in the same 72 hour period and it's not in the zeitgeist because everybody is talking about it, without anybody being able to put their finger on "this was it" for the 'start' of the changes. Then, not to be that snobbish guy, but people are sheep. Not in the "sheeple" way as a write off that our beliefs our superior to theirs, (though NPC I can get behind but that's a side track). People are social animals and social media is mostly controlled by just a few people with the ability to push a directive to Old Media so they can stay relevant then nudge the algorithms to add 2% more attention to topics related to the 70s pyramid/rune/crystal power and +5% more for UFO discussions, possibly with some contrary information added so as to poison it. Inside a week, we have gone from talking about pyramids, runes, hieroglyphics, crystal pyramids as "a bit too woo woo" to being mainline discussions and I honestly can't find anything valid kicking it off other than dredging up Van Danikens books (which really got the bible wrong to try and make a point, though Sitchin did far worse crimes by mixing modern Hebrew into biblical Hebrew, definite plagiarism then used a made up translation of his altered text. ) Add in the New Age types that have been that way since the 70s since that was what their mom believed (before they had universal blue hair dye to mark them) and now stop going by their middle name and start a youtube channel under moonbeam ascension or whatever and just drop acid and light incense and go "omm" for 2 hours and somehow get tons of followers without actually making any sort of statement, maybe meditation instruction?. Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By macman37: I tried to iron the possibility of them just reading the same thing and reporting on it out. I’m referring to genuine synchronicities that are provable due to production timelines and circles of knowledge. For example, all of a sudden people are talking about astrological runes and sigils, why is that. If there’s a press release calendar for woo-woo topics to discuss I’m not aware of it. … I’m also aware that people do tours on pods etc. when their books come out. Pasulka, Jacobsen, etc., are prime examples. This is not that.I kind of wanted to list these things out, just to have them “out there” so I can refer back to them… For the last few years I’ve really been trying to put the whole picture together (I know, lots of people have!) the problem is, there is this mental wall I’ve referred to before (here even) that makes me fuzz out when I think about connecting certain topics (consciousness, the reasons behind the way things are, like the zeitgeist I mentioned above). I attributed it to my monkey brain just not having the horsepower to muscle through it, but hearing others (Jesse Michels/Matt Brown) talk about the same exact thing made my ears perk up. I felt a little better about my mental horsepower. Clearly others have this issue too. They call it something slightly different but it’s the same thing.You must not grasp or think that the Google algorithms can make people think radically differently in a rapid fashion. Clancy trial poisoning, UFO going further and further to the "woo woo" side of things. People still trust searches and big old media sites, and it only takes a few of them to talk about the same thing in the same 72 hour period and it's not in the zeitgeist because everybody is talking about it, without anybody being able to put their finger on "this was it" for the 'start' of the changes. Then, not to be that snobbish guy, but people are sheep. Not in the "sheeple" way as a write off that our beliefs our superior to theirs, (though NPC I can get behind but that's a side track). People are social animals and social media is mostly controlled by just a few people with the ability to push a directive to Old Media so they can stay relevant then nudge the algorithms to add 2% more attention to topics related to the 70s pyramid/rune/crystal power and +5% more for UFO discussions, possibly with some contrary information added so as to poison it. Inside a week, we have gone from talking about pyramids, runes, hieroglyphics, crystal pyramids as "a bit too woo woo" to being mainline discussions and I honestly can't find anything valid kicking it off other than dredging up Van Danikens books (which really got the bible wrong to try and make a point, though Sitchin did far worse crimes by mixing modern Hebrew into biblical Hebrew, definite plagiarism then used a made up translation of his altered text. ) Add in the New Age types that have been that way since the 70s since that was what their mom believed (before they had universal blue hair dye to mark them) and now stop going by their middle name and start a youtube channel under moonbeam ascension or whatever and just drop acid and light incense and go "omm" for 2 hours and somehow get tons of followers without actually making any sort of statement, maybe meditation instruction?. I “grasp” this all and I’m keeping all of it in mind as I say these things... what would make you think I don’t “grasp” it? Edit: The only reason I mention these synchronicities is because they’re actual synchronicities. |
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Originally Posted By macman37: I “grasp” this all and I’m keeping all of it in mind as I say these things... what would make you think I don’t “grasp” it? Edit: The only reason I mention these synchronicities is because they’re actual synchronicities. Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By macman37: I tried to iron the possibility of them just reading the same thing and reporting on it out. I’m referring to genuine synchronicities that are provable due to production timelines and circles of knowledge. For example, all of a sudden people are talking about astrological runes and sigils, why is that. If there’s a press release calendar for woo-woo topics to discuss I’m not aware of it. … I’m also aware that people do tours on pods etc. when their books come out. Pasulka, Jacobsen, etc., are prime examples. This is not that.I kind of wanted to list these things out, just to have them “out there” so I can refer back to them… For the last few years I’ve really been trying to put the whole picture together (I know, lots of people have!) the problem is, there is this mental wall I’ve referred to before (here even) that makes me fuzz out when I think about connecting certain topics (consciousness, the reasons behind the way things are, like the zeitgeist I mentioned above). I attributed it to my monkey brain just not having the horsepower to muscle through it, but hearing others (Jesse Michels/Matt Brown) talk about the same exact thing made my ears perk up. I felt a little better about my mental horsepower. Clearly others have this issue too. They call it something slightly different but it’s the same thing.You must not grasp or think that the Google algorithms can make people think radically differently in a rapid fashion. Clancy trial poisoning, UFO going further and further to the "woo woo" side of things. People still trust searches and big old media sites, and it only takes a few of them to talk about the same thing in the same 72 hour period and it's not in the zeitgeist because everybody is talking about it, without anybody being able to put their finger on "this was it" for the 'start' of the changes. Then, not to be that snobbish guy, but people are sheep. Not in the "sheeple" way as a write off that our beliefs our superior to theirs, (though NPC I can get behind but that's a side track). People are social animals and social media is mostly controlled by just a few people with the ability to push a directive to Old Media so they can stay relevant then nudge the algorithms to add 2% more attention to topics related to the 70s pyramid/rune/crystal power and +5% more for UFO discussions, possibly with some contrary information added so as to poison it. Inside a week, we have gone from talking about pyramids, runes, hieroglyphics, crystal pyramids as "a bit too woo woo" to being mainline discussions and I honestly can't find anything valid kicking it off other than dredging up Van Danikens books (which really got the bible wrong to try and make a point, though Sitchin did far worse crimes by mixing modern Hebrew into biblical Hebrew, definite plagiarism then used a made up translation of his altered text. ) Add in the New Age types that have been that way since the 70s since that was what their mom believed (before they had universal blue hair dye to mark them) and now stop going by their middle name and start a youtube channel under moonbeam ascension or whatever and just drop acid and light incense and go "omm" for 2 hours and somehow get tons of followers without actually making any sort of statement, maybe meditation instruction?. I “grasp” this all and I’m keeping all of it in mind as I say these things... what would make you think I don’t “grasp” it? Edit: The only reason I mention these synchronicities is because they’re actual synchronicities. They are synchronicities and they aren't. If you are watching a group of kids play catch with a few balls and you see two of the balls hit each other mid air and fall in the middle of everybody, you'd say that was really strange. If instead you see a youtube video of kids playing catch and the balls hit, it's not the same thing, since they were probably playing catch and trying to get two balls to hit for hours or days to try and get a viral video out of it. That's kind of how I look at the zeitgeist and synchronciities. They are here and happening, Zeitgeist for absolute since it's the definition, but some of the synchronicities have been heavily nudged, and when those nudges all take place in a short time frame, it's not synchronicities, but manipulation while people really in similar flows also have synchronicities, people that aren't usually part of it are sort of nudged into it and seeing the closest they've ever been to one. Kind of how all the hate for Trump showed up in 2015 where Riots "spontaneously" happened, people were excited to be "part of something big" and the money, pizza, and free bail + lawyer wasn't bad, either. But they don't regret it because "they were part of something bigger". That is where we are now, except there have been the people watching the roll up their whole lives and some who have only crash coursed in the past week but more people are looking and since orbs seem so common if you have a high speed camera (most all phones these days, especially latest samsung with billion megapixel slow motion having real glass optics) and looking at low flying aircraft things get seen repeatedly, and it's not random large flying bugs the sky season. Meaning if you take a slow motion video of the sky for 5 minutes, you don't see a bunch of black dots zipping around, but when there's an airplane, there seem to be some around those. Those who do observe something strange are really part of the Zeitgeist rather than "i heard about it" it transitions to "I was part of it", which sadly, makes manipulation by bad actors much easier because people are so eager to believe. Doty for example being on one side of fence, then the other then back then back over for real this time and now who knows. Nearly ALL of the people that give us information are written off because "They worked for the government", but that is the group that has the information, I'm not expecting a 7-11 clerk to be a whistleblower about secret government activities after all. TL;DR, I'm not disagreeing with you, but in additon to the zeritgeist being pushed around ala overton window, the "part of it" has added true synchronicities but that can't be jumped into as "part of it" since those people are easy to manipulate. Sort of like a "seeker" and a TV Preacher where they send their entire Estate to the preacher after watching him for a month. Need to compare what was and wasn't to what is and isn't and make sure there is really a "there" there, while not insisting on writing everything off as possible with equally fuzzy reasons. |
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Originally Posted By WYPete: The admission that Space Force has weapon systems in orbit is very interesting… why admit it? And given the flight characteristics of UFOs it would seem nothing in our publicly available arsenal is capable of intercepting craft unless it’s a laser. The possibility of Blue Beam being a real thing cannot be discarded… this could/would lead directly in to that. |
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Originally Posted By WYPete: The admission that Space Force has weapon systems in orbit is very interesting… why admit it? And given the flight characteristics of UFOs it would seem nothing in our publicly available arsenal is capable of intercepting craft unless it’s a laser. Where did I miss that? I thought we had a treaty there there would not be weapons in space, signed by the top nations at the time when it was either the G5 or G7 Summit (and not the G15++ Summit) we have today. I guess the little shuttle UOV (unmanned orbital vehicle?) being able to kidnap or ram satellites we don't like is interesting. |
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By brass: Where did I miss that? I thought we had a treaty there there would not be weapons in space, signed by the top nations at the time when it was either the G5 or G7 Summit (and not the G15++ Summit) we have today. I guess the little shuttle UOV (unmanned orbital vehicle?) being able to kidnap or ram satellites we don't like is interesting. Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By WYPete: The admission that Space Force has weapon systems in orbit is very interesting… why admit it? And given the flight characteristics of UFOs it would seem nothing in our publicly available arsenal is capable of intercepting craft unless it’s a laser. Where did I miss that? I thought we had a treaty there there would not be weapons in space, signed by the top nations at the time when it was either the G5 or G7 Summit (and not the G15++ Summit) we have today. I guess the little shuttle UOV (unmanned orbital vehicle?) being able to kidnap or ram satellites we don't like is interesting. You're thinking of the Outer Space Treaty from 1967, it only bans nukes and "other WMD's" It started out as US,UK, and the Soviets, but became a UN thing. Everything else is fair game. I don't believe the China/Russia innocence bullshit over the last few days. "We would never do that, the US has to be stopped!" |
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Originally Posted By WorkDroid: https://i.postimg.cc/XNR18Jdz/space-weapon-tw.jpg That would suck, it would change your orbit every time you fired, with a good probability it would hit one of our satellites. Honestly a .22 CB Cap would be just as effective,only need to cut the solar panel or motherboard and diagnostics would report micrometeorite strike. That bullet would then continue if it didn't lodge in the satellite hot. There's a BUNCH f crap ut here and this one didn't even have time to go to the junkyard orbit, but it should burn up quick due to extreme retrograde orbit with downward momentum, sort of like somebody just slapped it down "Get out of here!". |
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By builderbob12: there you go messing up my whole fantazy i wanted that job Well, you could go ahead and try it, but you'd better bring a bunch of blanks as well as extra thruster fuel in order to get oriented and traveling straight again after a shot which would likely spin you into an unstable orbit and only more so with each additional round from the M2, and the impact I guess Just hope it hits in open ocean and not zinging around Earth and into your back.  |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By Cheesebeast: Space Force never quits. We will source you a Carl Gustav Recoiless Rifle instead. Happy hunting. Originally Posted By Cheesebeast: Originally Posted By builderbob12: dang i hate reality Space Force never quits. We will source you a Carl Gustav Recoiless Rifle instead. Happy hunting. That's overkill to the LOL level for a satellite. They're so tiny, it'd be like stepping on a fly then smearing it around with your foot so nothing is left kind of overkill. I'm curious who will be able to build a high orbit and vacuum engine stage for a quadcopter. Passive radar has been done, but "self launching satellite" would be a really neat trick. Full double battery pack taking it up to 40kft maybe if the props are progressive twist sorts and at that point drop the dead battery packs and start the high orbit to get to 100kft followed by gently coasting so you have your DIY ASAT drone provided you saved enough station keeping fuel. On a serious note, I think musk should send up a garbage scowl satellite to hoover up the dead sad orbital as well as all the stuff that is slowly crashing in. The value of the amount of gold and other rare materials used in satellite construction could be profitably if it could fit enough in and had a way to easily and quickly find/rack more debris. |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.