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2/25/2025 1:45:04 AM EDT
Am a current 1st year student in law school and I’m getting good grades but running into an issue of not being very sure I want to pursue being a lawyer as a career anymore. Currently I am basically attending law school for free so I have no real debt concerns now or going forward with my degree.

Was hoping someone here who has worked within the Texas DPS or similar state agencies could give me insight as to whether there is value in going ahead and finishing my law degree to pursue law enforcement as a career (I would want to do Texas DPS/state trooper route for sure as opposed to city police agency) or if I may be better served in just doing the trooper academy without finishing the JD.

Appreciate any input.
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2/25/2025 6:38:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HCM3156][Edited] [#1]
Originally Posted By TexasBrushHunter:
Am a current 1st year student in law school and I’m getting good grades but running into an issue of not being very sure I want to pursue being a lawyer as a career anymore. Currently I am basically attending law school for free so I have no real debt concerns now or going forward with my degree.

Was hoping someone here who has worked within the Texas DPS or similar state agencies could give me insight as to whether there is value in going ahead and finishing my law degree to pursue law enforcement as a career (I would want to do Texas DPS/state trooper route for sure as opposed to city police agency) or if I may be better served in just doing the trooper academy without finishing the JD.

Appreciate any input.
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Finish your JD so you have options.

There was always a small chance that you get injured or have some other issue getting through the Academy or making it through field training.

You’re looking at a few years on the road as a Trooper before you would be eligible to move into CID where your JD would be more useful.

Not that those years on the road as trooper won’t be useful, they are just two different types of “education.”
2/25/2025 9:00:00 AM EDT
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The degree won't help you on the street. Only common sense will help you there. Where the degree is good is if you want to move up to command ranks later in your career. It also looks good at hiring time for many agencies. My 2c after a 30 + year career on patrol.
2/25/2025 9:08:59 AM EDT
[#3]
Get the degree since there is no guarantee you will like DPS.
2/25/2025 11:23:36 AM EDT
[#4]
Feel free to DM me if you want to talk about various options with the law degree. Lots of things you can do beyond big firm practice.
2/25/2025 11:27:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HCM3156:


Finish your JD so you have options.

There was always a small chance that you get injured or have some other issue getting through the Academy or making it through field training.

You’re looking at a few years on the road as a Trooper before you would be eligible to move into CID where your JD would be more useful.

Not that those years on the road as trooper won’t be useful, they are just two different types of “education.”
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FPNI.

Finish the degree. If for nothing else just to have the options.
2/25/2025 11:57:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HCM3156:


Finish your JD so you have options.

There was always a small chance that you get injured or have some other issue getting through the Academy or making it through field training.

You’re looking at a few years on the road as a Trooper before you would be eligible to move into CID where your JD would be more useful.

Not that those years on the road as trooper won’t be useful, they are just two different types of “education.”
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This.  I would also not rule out going Fed.  Great jobs and they love law degrees.
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2/25/2025 12:19:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TexasBrushHunter:
Am a current 1st year student in law school and I'm getting good grades but running into an issue of not being very sure I want to pursue being a lawyer as a career anymore. Currently I am basically attending law school for free so I have no real debt concerns now or going forward with my degree.

Was hoping someone here who has worked within the Texas DPS or similar state agencies could give me insight as to whether there is value in going ahead and finishing my law degree to pursue law enforcement as a career (I would want to do Texas DPS/state trooper route for sure as opposed to city police agency) or if I may be better served in just doing the trooper academy without finishing the JD.

Appreciate any input.
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I would finish the degree, especially since its not costing you anything right now. DPS works a 50hr week and you'll have duty at the border, so there's that. With most large agencies you can use that degree if you pass the bar and you'll work in the legal department. Most likely you'll be dealing with internal affairs investigations or helping to develop or review policy . I work at a large agency and we have a lot of officers that become lawyers and they never stay on the street. They promote or they quit and go into private practice. DPS is pretty much all patrol work. Doing that after obtaining a law degree will make your head explode.
2/25/2025 12:25:26 PM EDT
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Finish the degree.  All police agencies have a pretty high dropout rate in the first few years of being on the street. There is no guarantee that it's a career for you.
2/25/2025 7:54:33 PM EDT
[#9]
Get the JD. If you stay with DPS, and assuming you do a good job on the street, it will open up a ton of opportunities with you inside and outside the agency.
2/28/2025 10:30:55 AM EDT
[#10]
Finish the degree & go federal, they love law degrees.  Better pay, better gear, better retirement, get to travel, etc.
2/28/2025 4:01:36 PM EDT
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if you can get a JD for free, you would be stupid to drop out to be come a cop. There will always be cop jobs of all types waiting. The better ones will be happy to take someone with a law degree.

You blow out your back, or tear up your knee after two weeks on the job and cant get back to full duty, you will wish you had that JD in your back pocket.

And there is also the possibility you dont like being a cop after you actually do it for a while. It aint like TV...


27 years in LE and I wish I had done something like law school before I got on the job. I have several coworkers with JDs and they all have some kind of side gig that makes extra money for minimal work.
3/1/2025 6:24:51 PM EDT
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Get the degree since there is no guarantee you will like DPS.
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This.  Get your JD then give LE a shot. After doing it for a while if you decide it isn't for you, you have a nice backup plan already in place.
4/3/2025 3:31:22 AM EDT
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Yup, get the degree. I wish I'd have know my injury was a career ender before it got too late, meaning I got too old, to justify going to law school.
4/3/2025 10:08:33 AM EDT
[#14]
Here's another way to look at it.

In MA and NH, each PD typically assigns one officer as the department's prosecutor. It sure would not hurt if that prosecutor also had a JD!! I can't speak for what is done in any other state, but a JD could be put to good use in any department that I can think of.

Go for it and get your JD!
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4/8/2025 12:27:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JonLSU][Edited] [#15]
As everyone has said.  Finish the degree.

If you already have a bachelor's degree - I would say it's up to you.  But if your at the end of your first year and you only have 1 more.  Finish the degree - DPS isn't going anywhere.
4/12/2025 7:31:10 PM EDT
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Just curious why you are so set on DPS? What's the appeal?
4/15/2025 2:54:40 PM EDT
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Just curious why you are so set on DPS? What's the appeal?
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Like the opportunity to end up in a rural setting easier and just the benefits that come from working for the state. Notions of eventually trying to move into CID/apply for a ranger slot also appeal to me. At least in my community perceptions of state troopers and the training associated seems to be more positive than for city police. I could be off mark but it has just been something that always has interested me.
4/15/2025 8:59:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TexasBrushHunter:


Like the opportunity to end up in a rural setting easier and just the benefits that come from working for the state. Notions of eventually trying to move into CID/apply for a ranger slot also appeal to me. At least in my community perceptions of state troopers and the training associated seems to be more positive than for city police. I could be off mark but it has just been something that always has interested me.
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Originally Posted By ThatGuy91K:
Just curious why you are so set on DPS? What's the appeal?


Like the opportunity to end up in a rural setting easier and just the benefits that come from working for the state. Notions of eventually trying to move into CID/apply for a ranger slot also appeal to me. At least in my community perceptions of state troopers and the training associated seems to be more positive than for city police. I could be off mark but it has just been something that always has interested me.



You do know that the average Trooper is just a ticket writer/crash investigator.  Once they're smart enough to figure that out then they can be an illustrious Ranger.
4/26/2025 9:02:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HCM3156:


Finish your JD so you have options.

There was always a small chance that you get injured or have some other issue getting through the Academy or making it through field training.

You’re looking at a few years on the road as a Trooper before you would be eligible to move into CID where your JD would be more useful.

Not that those years on the road as trooper won’t be useful, they are just two different types of “education.”
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^^^

Always better to have something to fall back upon, esp if you are disabled on duty or fired for some reason.
I don’t like making plans for the day. Because then the word "premeditated" gets thrown around in the courtroom.
4/26/2025 9:10:55 PM EDT
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Hang in there. You only have a couple of years left. THEN decide.
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4/28/2025 2:33:29 AM EDT
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During the rest of your school, you might find a niche you want to practice in.
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