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Originally Posted By Alien: That's a good idea. I exchanged some paints and bought one.  Originally Posted By Alien: Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: CR came right out and said that developing the game engine to its best possible form was part of the overarching goal of the project, because, once they had it down, they could also sell/license it to other developers. Side bonus of innovating new technologies. Some of the stuff they're doing, even they thought was impossible ten years ago. As a side note, I discovered quite by accident, that the RSI Aurora ES standalone ship (at $20, the absolutely cheapest ship in the game) comes with 10 year insurance at the moment, and can be had with store credit as well as cash. I melted an old $40 pledge with crap insurance and bought 2 of them just to hold as CCU tokens.  
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| Went ahead and traded in one of my LTI Atlas suits for a Cutter Rambler, gonna be used as my solo low-cost to maintain pyro ship. It’s lowkey and will always be solo-able, be nice for long pyro jumps gonna need the extra large fuel tank. |
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Originally Posted By BabaYaga22: Went ahead and traded in one of my LTI Atlas suits for a Cutter Rambler, gonna be used as my solo low-cost to maintain pyro ship. It's lowkey and will always be solo-able, be nice for long pyro jumps gonna need the extra large fuel tank.
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Originally Posted By M1dW99Z: Proud owner of a Polaris. Biggest thing I've got is a Hull C. |
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Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: That's an unsimple question that requires a non-simple answer. Status of the game is, they're currently in alpha 3.24.3 (I think Maybe 3.24.4). Alpha 4.0 is in limited testing (currently paused for the IAE event) Jump gates are live. physicalized cargo is live. Many of the multicrew ships are live. They just released the Polaris, so if you own one, you can fly it. It's still for sale in limited numbers. There is significant gameplay, both PVP and PVE available. 4.0 is supposed to be released to the Permanent Test Universe by end of year. IT WILL INCLUDE A FULL WIPE, possibly the last of them. They've stated that they're trying very hard to limit hard wipes. For the past several updates, the only real wipes were stuff you left out of storage and aUEC. Ships etc. you bought in-game, and gear you bought in game, so long as it was stored properly, persisted. There were a few persistent infinite money glitches still around as of 3.23, and those things make balancing an economy pure hell. Soft death on ships has been implemented, so you can now do some limited looting of wrecks Many ships are for sale in game already for aUEC, and they'll stay persistent in your account accross many of the partial wipes, with only the full wipes removing them. Squadron 42 release date has been hard set to some time in 2026. It's supposedly finished and undergoing "polish". Star Citizen 1.0, which they're considering full release, could be any time between mid 2025 and 2027, they're not sure, as much of what's gone into development of the game is undiscovered country. Probably closer to 2027, to be honest. Meanwhile, with each update, the game becomes more playable (except 3.18. We don't talk about 3.18) There are currently 3 systems, as they JUST opened Pyro. Might not even be in the permanent universe yet. There are still several gameplay loops that aren't available, and as a result, several of the specialty ships that are about worthless, or have been put on the back burner. Data runners, for instance, although the Mercury Data runners are live, just without the whole mechanic they were designed for. I don't think I missed anything, but a couple of the other guys probably know more. I've only just started back in playing myself. ETA: Just to be clear, it IS still buggy, but not nearly as buggy as it was. Probably on the level or a 1st release Bethesda game. Maybe a little better. Thanks for the great response. I should muck around with the game but I don't really know wtf I'm doing. |
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Originally Posted By blueballs: Thanks for the great response. I should muck around with the game but I don't really know wtf I'm doing. Originally Posted By blueballs: Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: That's an unsimple question that requires a non-simple answer. Status of the game is, they're currently in alpha 3.24.3 (I think Maybe 3.24.4). Alpha 4.0 is in limited testing (currently paused for the IAE event) Jump gates are live. physicalized cargo is live. Many of the multicrew ships are live. They just released the Polaris, so if you own one, you can fly it. It's still for sale in limited numbers. There is significant gameplay, both PVP and PVE available. 4.0 is supposed to be released to the Permanent Test Universe by end of year. IT WILL INCLUDE A FULL WIPE, possibly the last of them. They've stated that they're trying very hard to limit hard wipes. For the past several updates, the only real wipes were stuff you left out of storage and aUEC. Ships etc. you bought in-game, and gear you bought in game, so long as it was stored properly, persisted. There were a few persistent infinite money glitches still around as of 3.23, and those things make balancing an economy pure hell. Soft death on ships has been implemented, so you can now do some limited looting of wrecks Many ships are for sale in game already for aUEC, and they'll stay persistent in your account accross many of the partial wipes, with only the full wipes removing them. Squadron 42 release date has been hard set to some time in 2026. It's supposedly finished and undergoing "polish". Star Citizen 1.0, which they're considering full release, could be any time between mid 2025 and 2027, they're not sure, as much of what's gone into development of the game is undiscovered country. Probably closer to 2027, to be honest. Meanwhile, with each update, the game becomes more playable (except 3.18. We don't talk about 3.18) There are currently 3 systems, as they JUST opened Pyro. Might not even be in the permanent universe yet. There are still several gameplay loops that aren't available, and as a result, several of the specialty ships that are about worthless, or have been put on the back burner. Data runners, for instance, although the Mercury Data runners are live, just without the whole mechanic they were designed for. I don't think I missed anything, but a couple of the other guys probably know more. I've only just started back in playing myself. ETA: Just to be clear, it IS still buggy, but not nearly as buggy as it was. Probably on the level or a 1st release Bethesda game. Maybe a little better. Thanks for the great response. I should muck around with the game but I don't really know wtf I'm doing. I was joking in chat last night that "free fly" is code for "free server stress test". But... If I can muddle through, folks with better computers should be doing pretty good. |
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Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: Honestly, neither do I. I've only just started playing the actual game, and I've chosen the absolute wrong time to do it. IAE has turned the various ports into a slide show, at least with my computer. I'm running a box that's at least 5 years old, with an 8 gig video card that the game seems to think is capable of running the graphics at very high. (it's not) I've also got the wrong mouse, I think. My soninlaw got me a gaming mouse a couple of years ago for Christmas, and moving it 1/8" sends my spaceship into a tumbling roll as the cursor sails clean across the screen, even with mouse sensitivity set to almost nothing. I was joking in chat last night that "free fly" is code for "free server stress test". But... If I can muddle through, folks with better computers should be doing pretty good. Look up the mouse and see if you have a DPI adjustment. |
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Originally Posted By buckstrucks: Look up the mouse and see if you have a DPI adjustment. Originally Posted By buckstrucks: Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: Honestly, neither do I. I've only just started playing the actual game, and I've chosen the absolute wrong time to do it. IAE has turned the various ports into a slide show, at least with my computer. I'm running a box that's at least 5 years old, with an 8 gig video card that the game seems to think is capable of running the graphics at very high. (it's not) I've also got the wrong mouse, I think. My soninlaw got me a gaming mouse a couple of years ago for Christmas, and moving it 1/8" sends my spaceship into a tumbling roll as the cursor sails clean across the screen, even with mouse sensitivity set to almost nothing. I was joking in chat last night that "free fly" is code for "free server stress test". But... If I can muddle through, folks with better computers should be doing pretty good. Look up the mouse and see if you have a DPI adjustment. I haven't played today yet. My good chair expired some time ago, and I haven't gotten around to replacing it. Which means I'm playing sitting in a kitchen chair, which is not at all comfortable. Read painful. Additionally, my second tier desk chair is trapped in a bedroom (son's before he moved out) and won't fit through the door, so it has to be disassembled and then reassembled once I get it out. Which I'm currently too fucking lazy to attempt. Soon,TM. |
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| They need to do another redesign of the Constellation. I've been watching videos about their newer ships and the Connie is very lacking in terms of design. |
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Originally Posted By RaptorFuel: They need to do another redesign of the Constellation. I've been watching videos about their newer ships and the Connie is very lacking in terms of design. |
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| I thought their ship design was lacking for what they wanted to do with them in the game until the most recent wave of ships. They still have room for improvement but at least the newest ones seem functional as ships. |
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Originally Posted By RaptorFuel: I thought their ship design was lacking for what they wanted to do with them in the game until the most recent wave of ships. They still have room for improvement but at least the newest ones seem functional as ships. Meanwhile, the Avenger languishes. Already on its 3rd iteration, it still has a bed as its only amenity. |
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Originally Posted By RaptorFuel: They need to do another redesign of the Constellation. I've been watching videos about their newer ships and the Connie is very lacking in terms of design. That’s a major issue with almost every older ship. I’m not a fan of how they handled the Hornet. (Creating a new mk II instead of fixing the original) |
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Originally Posted By K2QB3: Smartest pledge- Avenger Titan Best for general purposes- Cutlass Red Best for PVE combat- Best for PU PVP, at the moment- Gladius or Buccaneer Best in AC- Fury I haven't played for a while. I heard the Corsair got hit pretty hard with a nerf. I'm guessing based on your post that it's true? |
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Originally Posted By K2QB3: Smartest pledge- Avenger Titan Best for general purposes- Cutlass Red Best for PVE combat- Best for PU PVP, at the moment- Gladius or Buccaneer Best in AC- Fury Agree the Titan is a great starter ship for the money. Vulture is one of the easiest $$ per hour ships but is a bit pricier to get into if pledging. Scrapping gets boring as shit though after a while. I can only take it small doses |
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Originally Posted By Ajek: That's a major issue with almost every older ship. I'm not a fan of how they handled the Hornet. (Creating a new mk II instead of fixing the original) Originally Posted By Ajek: Originally Posted By RaptorFuel: They need to do another redesign of the Constellation. I've been watching videos about their newer ships and the Connie is very lacking in terms of design. That's a major issue with almost every older ship. I'm not a fan of how they handled the Hornet. (Creating a new mk II instead of fixing the original) |
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Originally Posted By RaptorFuel: What's everyone's favorite "daily driver"? That said, I just CCUed my LTI 100i to a C1 Spirit, and that thing is looking pretty sweet. |
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Originally Posted By Ajek: I haven't played for a while. I heard the Corsair got hit pretty hard with a nerf. I'm guessing based on your post that it's true? Originally Posted By Ajek: Originally Posted By K2QB3: Smartest pledge- Avenger Titan Best for general purposes- Cutlass Red Best for PVE combat- Best for PU PVP, at the moment- Gladius or Buccaneer Best in AC- Fury I haven't played for a while. I heard the Corsair got hit pretty hard with a nerf. I'm guessing based on your post that it's true? |
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Originally Posted By GRENDEL87: Agree the Titan is a great starter ship for the money. Vulture is one of the easiest $$ per hour ships but is a bit pricier to get into if pledging. Scrapping gets boring as shit though after a while. I can only take it small doses Originally Posted By GRENDEL87: Originally Posted By K2QB3: Smartest pledge- Avenger Titan Best for general purposes- Cutlass Red Best for PVE combat- Best for PU PVP, at the moment- Gladius or Buccaneer Best in AC- Fury Agree the Titan is a great starter ship for the money. Vulture is one of the easiest $$ per hour ships but is a bit pricier to get into if pledging. Scrapping gets boring as shit though after a while. I can only take it small doses |
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Now for a request of aid from the mob. My gamebox is still chugging. My son-in-law, who's still doing computer work while I got out of the game 6 or 7 years ago (and you all know how fungible computer knowledge is.) says my CPU can't possibly run SC well because it's too old. What sayeth the mob? Running a AMD Ryzen 7 2700 8-core 3.2 ghz. CPU. A Geforce 580rx 8gb, Video card. 32gig of RAM. Running WIN 10 off of a 1tb thumbstick SSD on the board. Am I boned, or am I good? |
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Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: Now for a request of aid from the mob. My gamebox is still chugging. My son-in-law, who's still doing computer work while I got out of the game 6 or 7 years ago (and you all know how fungible computer knowledge is.) says my CPU can't possibly run SC well because it's too old. What sayeth the mob? Running a AMD Ryzen 7 2700 8-core 3.2 ghz. CPU. A Geforce 580rx 8gb, Video card. 32gig of RAM. Running WIN 10 off of a 1tb thumbstick SSD on the board. Am I boned, or am I good? Grab the latest bios for your motherboard and grab a 5700X3D to throw at it for less than $200 on sale right now. Maybe as a bonus, you can probably find some 3600CL16 ram cheap. Parts link Past that, you are getting into a motherboard change, which, I would argue would be lower priority than an updated GPU if you got the X3D chip. Really depends if and how much you want to throw at it. |
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Originally Posted By ShOcKeRpb: It can run it, but it won't be happy. Even with the newer updates, SC is still a CPU instruction heavy game. The X3D series of CPUs have been a godsend, and they are still selling new CPUs for AM4 to keep older systems chugging. Grab the latest bios for your motherboard and grab a 5700X3D to throw at it for less than $200 on sale right now. Maybe as a bonus, you can probably find some 3600CL16 ram cheap. Parts link Past that, you are getting into a motherboard change, which, I would argue would be lower priority than an updated GPU if you got the X3D chip. Really depends if and how much you want to throw at it.  I do have another motherboard that was the first step towards another build back when I had money. I think the issue was that literally nothing from the current box was going to transfer beyond the drives, and possibly the GPU, although it was already not the best at that point. The RAM that's in there now is G.SKILL Trident Z Neo (For AMD Ryzen) Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin RGB PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC Attached File Is the Ripjaw significantly better? ETA: I went and took a look at the other motherboard, and it's set up for 11th and 12th gen Intel CPUs. Don't judge me, I was going through a phase. 
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Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: They HAD to nerf the Corsair. 40% of all ship kills were by a Corsair. That's just a little bit too imbalanced by anybody's metrics. They shouldn't balance that way. It's been a problem for years. Before VHRTs it was the Cutlass everyone flew so they kept it really weak, but people didn't fly the cutlass because it was strong, they flew it because it did everything the game required at the time. 40% of PVE kills, sure. Corsair was simply the fastest way to do high level bounty missions solo, but there's little a solo Corsair pilot can do vs. even a well-piloted Aurora in PVP. Even fully manned it's got a huge blind spot you can sit in and it never had the rotation rates to stop you. The adjustment to the Redeemer was more of a role change than a nerf, both were related to where they wanted the Paladin in the lineup. Connie has the same rotation rates, more firepower and twice the hitpoints now. The Vulture isn't a bad pledge because you get a Buccaneer as a loaner. I like the Drake ships but it's hard to recommend owning them, they're cheap in-game. |
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Originally Posted By K2QB3: I like the Drake ships but it's hard to recommend owning them, they're cheap in-game. I can't recommend owning anything more expensive than the Titan game package. If you go past that, all you are doing is donating money to company that has already earned the better part of a billion dollars on this game. I'll give way too much of my money to Nvidia and Federal Premium instead. |
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Originally Posted By K2QB3: They shouldn't balance that way. It's been a problem for years. Before VHRTs it was the Cutlass everyone flew so they kept it really weak, but people didn't fly the cutlass because it was strong, they flew it because it did everything the game required at the time. 40% of PVE kills, sure. Corsair was simply the fastest way to do high level bounty missions solo, but there's little a solo Corsair pilot can do vs. even a well-piloted Aurora in PVP. Even fully manned it's got a huge blind spot you can sit in and it never had the rotation rates to stop you. The adjustment to the Redeemer was more of a role change than a nerf, both were related to where they wanted the Paladin in the lineup. Connie has the same rotation rates, more firepower and twice the hitpoints now. The Vulture isn't a bad pledge because you get a Buccaneer as a loaner. I like the Drake ships but it's hard to recommend owning them, they're cheap in-game. Originally Posted By K2QB3: Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: They HAD to nerf the Corsair. 40% of all ship kills were by a Corsair. That's just a little bit too imbalanced by anybody's metrics. They shouldn't balance that way. It's been a problem for years. Before VHRTs it was the Cutlass everyone flew so they kept it really weak, but people didn't fly the cutlass because it was strong, they flew it because it did everything the game required at the time. 40% of PVE kills, sure. Corsair was simply the fastest way to do high level bounty missions solo, but there's little a solo Corsair pilot can do vs. even a well-piloted Aurora in PVP. Even fully manned it's got a huge blind spot you can sit in and it never had the rotation rates to stop you. The adjustment to the Redeemer was more of a role change than a nerf, both were related to where they wanted the Paladin in the lineup. Connie has the same rotation rates, more firepower and twice the hitpoints now. The Vulture isn't a bad pledge because you get a Buccaneer as a loaner. I like the Drake ships but it's hard to recommend owning them, they're cheap in-game. 
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Originally Posted By castlebravo84: I can't recommend owning anything more expensive than the Titan game package. If you go past that, all you are doing is donating money to company that has already earned the better part of a billion dollars on this game. I'll give way too much of my money to Nvidia and Federal Premium instead. I'm still probably going to be giving several hundred dollars to AMD and Nvidia in order to play the game. To be blunt, right now, playing the game is tedious and obnoxious. At least the cargo loop. The tractor beam is an exercise in masochism, and I've blowed up 4 ships hitting nothing in the last couple of days. That said, I see what the game can be, even as it is now, and I want to play it, which seems possible with some upgrading of my box. And that ain't CIG's fault. CR said right at the beginning of the project that this would never be a game for low end PCs. The aim was for it to run on whatever constituted a mid-range PC of the point in time it was released. When I built my gaming rig, it fit the timeframe, but feature creep (which, granted, ERREBODY warned him about.), with backer approval, I might add, kept making the project bigger. Remember, Star Citizen was supposed to be a WWII in space flight sim, but it turned out that wasn't what people wanted. Myself included. So, while I'm not currently happy with the gameplay, I can't say I didn't ask for it. |
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Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: While that ship has long sailed for me, as the bulk of my money spent on SC was in the early days, and when I saw the ships as more of a bonus than the point. I'm still probably going to be giving several hundred dollars to AMD and Nvidia in order to play the game. To be blunt, right now, playing the game is tedious and obnoxious. At least the cargo loop. The tractor beam is an exercise in masochism, and I've blowed up 4 ships hitting nothing in the last couple of days. That said, I see what the game can be, even as it is now, and I want to play it, which seems possible with some upgrading of my box. And that ain't CIG's fault. CR said right at the beginning of the project that this would never be a game for low end PCs. The aim was for it to run on whatever constituted a mid-range PC of the point in time it was released. When I built my gaming rig, it fit the timeframe, but feature creep (which, granted, ERREBODY warned him about.), with backer approval, I might add, kept making the project bigger. Remember, Star Citizen was supposed to be a WWII in space flight sim, but it turned out that wasn't what people wanted. Myself included. So, while I'm not currently happy with the gameplay, I can't say I didn't ask for it. It runs pretty well on my PC, the servers are hammered during the free-fly though. I didn't spend anything this year. I did grab a spare Polaris CCU from my buybacks before the price increase, and $10 Crucible and Endeaver CCUs with credits. Also went ahead and let my wife order me a pair of VKB gladiators on black Friday for Christmas/4.0. |
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Originally Posted By K2QB3: It runs pretty well on my PC, the servers are hammered during the free-fly though. I didn't spend anything this year. I did grab a spare Polaris CCU from my buybacks before the price increase, and $10 Crucible and Endeaver CCUs with credits. Also went ahead and let my wife order me a pair of VKB gladiators on black Friday for Christmas/4.0. Now I'm looking at spending another $250+ upgrading my CPU and cooler. I suspect many of my problems will probably go away at that point. While I'm browsing, a friend I talked into the game is trying to catch an elevator on New Babbage to get off the hab block floor down to the lobby. He's been trying for 20 minutes, and he just cannot get the elevator doors to open. Prior to that, he made it to the tram on his way to the IAE, but ended up sailing through a toob floating above an empty ocean for 10 minutes, with the doors opening into nothing. ETA: Out of curiosity, what specs are you running? |
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It runs ok on my PC on medium settings but I think I need more RAM. i7-8700K 16gb RAM GeForce GTX 1080 |
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Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: While that ship has long sailed for me, as the bulk of my money spent on SC was in the early days, and when I saw the ships as more of a bonus than the point. I'm still probably going to be giving several hundred dollars to AMD and Nvidia in order to play the game. To be blunt, right now, playing the game is tedious and obnoxious. At least the cargo loop. The tractor beam is an exercise in masochism, and I've blowed up 4 ships hitting nothing in the last couple of days. That said, I see what the game can be, even as it is now, and I want to play it, which seems possible with some upgrading of my box. And that ain't CIG's fault. CR said right at the beginning of the project that this would never be a game for low end PCs. The aim was for it to run on whatever constituted a mid-range PC of the point in time it was released. When I built my gaming rig, it fit the timeframe, but feature creep (which, granted, ERREBODY warned him about.), with backer approval, I might add, kept making the project bigger. Remember, Star Citizen was supposed to be a WWII in space flight sim, but it turned out that wasn't what people wanted. Myself included. So, while I'm not currently happy with the gameplay, I can't say I didn't ask for it. Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: Originally Posted By castlebravo84: I can't recommend owning anything more expensive than the Titan game package. If you go past that, all you are doing is donating money to company that has already earned the better part of a billion dollars on this game. I'll give way too much of my money to Nvidia and Federal Premium instead. I'm still probably going to be giving several hundred dollars to AMD and Nvidia in order to play the game. To be blunt, right now, playing the game is tedious and obnoxious. At least the cargo loop. The tractor beam is an exercise in masochism, and I've blowed up 4 ships hitting nothing in the last couple of days. That said, I see what the game can be, even as it is now, and I want to play it, which seems possible with some upgrading of my box. And that ain't CIG's fault. CR said right at the beginning of the project that this would never be a game for low end PCs. The aim was for it to run on whatever constituted a mid-range PC of the point in time it was released. When I built my gaming rig, it fit the timeframe, but feature creep (which, granted, ERREBODY warned him about.), with backer approval, I might add, kept making the project bigger. Remember, Star Citizen was supposed to be a WWII in space flight sim, but it turned out that wasn't what people wanted. Myself included. So, while I'm not currently happy with the gameplay, I can't say I didn't ask for it. I just wanted a spiritual successor to Privateer / Wing Commander 
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Originally Posted By Ajek: I just wanted a spiritual successor to Privateer / Wing Commander Originally Posted By Ajek: Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: Originally Posted By castlebravo84: I can't recommend owning anything more expensive than the Titan game package. If you go past that, all you are doing is donating money to company that has already earned the better part of a billion dollars on this game. I'll give way too much of my money to Nvidia and Federal Premium instead. I'm still probably going to be giving several hundred dollars to AMD and Nvidia in order to play the game. To be blunt, right now, playing the game is tedious and obnoxious. At least the cargo loop. The tractor beam is an exercise in masochism, and I've blowed up 4 ships hitting nothing in the last couple of days. That said, I see what the game can be, even as it is now, and I want to play it, which seems possible with some upgrading of my box. And that ain't CIG's fault. CR said right at the beginning of the project that this would never be a game for low end PCs. The aim was for it to run on whatever constituted a mid-range PC of the point in time it was released. When I built my gaming rig, it fit the timeframe, but feature creep (which, granted, ERREBODY warned him about.), with backer approval, I might add, kept making the project bigger. Remember, Star Citizen was supposed to be a WWII in space flight sim, but it turned out that wasn't what people wanted. Myself included. So, while I'm not currently happy with the gameplay, I can't say I didn't ask for it. I just wanted a spiritual successor to Privateer / Wing Commander @RaptorFuel Wild. On paper, I think my system is way higher end than yours, and it runs like shit. I don't know what to think about that. |
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Boy is my face red.  ON a whim, I went and tested my internet speed. I'm supposed to have 400mbps DL in plan, but with only the single computer hooked up, the best I could get was 94. Hmm, I hmmed to myself. Why dat? So I checked my network card. Seems to be gigabit capable. So what's going on? Then it hit me, like a wet carp to the face. When was the last time I upgraded my ethernet cable? My Cat 5, fast ether cable? Wait... CAT 5? As in maximum throughput 100mbps CAT 5? Well, fuck me runnin'! Off to Wally World to pick up a Cat 6 cable and see if my gameplay improves at all. . Hard to believe I used to make my living doing this shit. And they talk about shooting being a fungible skill. |
History indicates that Conservative Americans only have three speeds: silence, peaceful protest rallies, and Total Industrialized Warfare. They excel at the latter.
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Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: Boy is my face red. ON a whim, I went and tested my internet speed. I'm supposed to have 400mbps DL in plan, but with only the single computer hooked up, the best I could get was 94. Hmm, I hmmed to myself. Why dat? So I checked my network card. Seems to be gigabit capable. So what's going on? Then it hit me, like a wet carp to the face. When was the last time I upgraded my ethernet cable? My Cat 5, fast ether cable? Wait... CAT 5? As in maximum throughput 100mbps CAT 5? Well, fuck me runnin'! Off to Wally World to pick up a Cat 6 cable and see if my gameplay improves at all. . Hard to believe I used to make my living doing this shit. And they talk about shooting being a fungible skill.Cat5 will run GbE at 100m, much less whatever normal patch cable length you are using, and you don't need anywhere close to 100mbps to play any online game. The main thing to look out for is to make sure other applications/devices aren't saturating the pipe while you are trying to game. Hell, you could play Star Citizen on a 10mbps connection easy, it would just suck trying to download big updates. |
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Originally Posted By castlebravo84: Cat5 will run GbE at 100m, much less whatever normal patch cable length you are using, and you don't need anywhere close to 100mbps to play any online game. The main thing to look out for is to make sure other applications/devices aren't saturating the pipe while you are trying to game. Hell, you could play Star Citizen on a 10mbps connection easy, it would just suck trying to download big updates. Originally Posted By castlebravo84: Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: Boy is my face red. ON a whim, I went and tested my internet speed. I'm supposed to have 400mbps DL in plan, but with only the single computer hooked up, the best I could get was 94. Hmm, I hmmed to myself. Why dat? So I checked my network card. Seems to be gigabit capable. So what's going on? Then it hit me, like a wet carp to the face. When was the last time I upgraded my ethernet cable? My Cat 5, fast ether cable? Wait... CAT 5? As in maximum throughput 100mbps CAT 5? Well, fuck me runnin'! Off to Wally World to pick up a Cat 6 cable and see if my gameplay improves at all. . Hard to believe I used to make my living doing this shit. And they talk about shooting being a fungible skill.Cat5 will run GbE at 100m, much less whatever normal patch cable length you are using, and you don't need anywhere close to 100mbps to play any online game. The main thing to look out for is to make sure other applications/devices aren't saturating the pipe while you are trying to game. Hell, you could play Star Citizen on a 10mbps connection easy, it would just suck trying to download big updates. |
History indicates that Conservative Americans only have three speeds: silence, peaceful protest rallies, and Total Industrialized Warfare. They excel at the latter.
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Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: I would much rather not throw anything at it, but there ya go. I do have another motherboard that was the first step towards another build back when I had money. I think the issue was that literally nothing from the current box was going to transfer beyond the drives, and possibly the GPU, although it was already not the best at that point. The RAM that's in there now is G.SKILL Trident Z Neo (For AMD Ryzen) Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin RGB PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/214519/20-232-861-V01_jpg-3396750.JPG Is the Ripjaw significantly better? ETA: I went and took a look at the other motherboard, and it's set up for 11th and 12th gen Intel CPUs. Don't judge me, I was going through a phase. Just sent you a reply on your PM before I checked here. No, It's basically the same thing, but without the RGB. Your ram is perfect. Don't worry about changing it. I was going off the age of the rest of your parts and assumed you may not have had ram that runs on an even good ratio with the Zen3 infinity fabric clock speed. |
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Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: Originally Posted By Ajek: Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: Originally Posted By castlebravo84: I can't recommend owning anything more expensive than the Titan game package. If you go past that, all you are doing is donating money to company that has already earned the better part of a billion dollars on this game. I'll give way too much of my money to Nvidia and Federal Premium instead. I'm still probably going to be giving several hundred dollars to AMD and Nvidia in order to play the game. To be blunt, right now, playing the game is tedious and obnoxious. At least the cargo loop. The tractor beam is an exercise in masochism, and I've blowed up 4 ships hitting nothing in the last couple of days. That said, I see what the game can be, even as it is now, and I want to play it, which seems possible with some upgrading of my box. And that ain't CIG's fault. CR said right at the beginning of the project that this would never be a game for low end PCs. The aim was for it to run on whatever constituted a mid-range PC of the point in time it was released. When I built my gaming rig, it fit the timeframe, but feature creep (which, granted, ERREBODY warned him about.), with backer approval, I might add, kept making the project bigger. Remember, Star Citizen was supposed to be a WWII in space flight sim, but it turned out that wasn't what people wanted. Myself included. So, while I'm not currently happy with the gameplay, I can't say I didn't ask for it. I just wanted a spiritual successor to Privateer / Wing Commander @RaptorFuel Wild. On paper, I think my system is way higher end than yours, and it runs like shit. I don't know what to think about that.  I setup my CCU chain for the Perseus last night. Using a Retaliator to Aquila and a Caterpillar to Orion upgrade, I think it'll only cost like $190.  Truth be told I think the Perseus is the ship I'm most excited about.  I'm debating whether to use the other Orion CCU that I have to get an actual Orion or to use it on something else. I traded an F7A Veteran's Day upgrade for an Arrastra, so I already have a big mining ship. |
Yesterday, 12/5/24, CIG announced that missile and bomb prices were going up. A LOT! Completely re-arming your Polaris with missiles will now cost you around 14,000,000uec.  Size 10 torpedoes will now cost just north of a new Pisces C8X.ERREBODY PANIC! Today, they announced that the rewards for various missions would also be going up. Of course, whereas the missiles and bombs went up between a factor of 40 and 90, mission rewards doubled or tripled. That's some Biden level economy balancing, there. Meanwhile, I've got my new CPU and cooler on the way. Hope that wasn't a mistake.
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Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: Yesterday, 12/5/24, CIG announced that missile and bomb prices were going up. A LOT! Completely re-arming your Polaris with missiles will now cost you around 14,000,000uec. Size 10 torpedoes will now cost just north of a new Pisces C8X.ERREBODY PANIC! Today, they announced that the rewards for various missions would also be going up. Of course, whereas the missiles and bombs went up between a factor of 40 and 90, mission rewards doubled or tripled. That's some Biden level economy balancing, there. Meanwhile, I've got my new CPU and cooler on the way. Hope that wasn't a mistake. Even with current rearm and repair costs on just a little bit of damage on a Polaris. I just file an insurance claim. Sounds like I will continue doing the same. Meh. People are nuke and torp crazy as it is currently. It has to cost to more than likely one shot a ship or delete an entire area with many players. These capital ships are meant for orgs or groups of players that all contribute to the costs. Not for solo MMO players. |
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Originally Posted By M1dW99Z: Even with current rearm and repair costs on just a little bit of damage on a Polaris. I just file an insurance claim. Sounds like I will continue doing the same. Meh. People are nuke and torp crazy as it is currently. It has to cost to more than likely one shot a ship or delete an entire area with many players. These capital ships are meant for orgs or groups of players that all contribute to the costs. Not for solo MMO players. Originally Posted By M1dW99Z: Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: Yesterday, 12/5/24, CIG announced that missile and bomb prices were going up. A LOT! Completely re-arming your Polaris with missiles will now cost you around 14,000,000uec. Size 10 torpedoes will now cost just north of a new Pisces C8X.ERREBODY PANIC! Today, they announced that the rewards for various missions would also be going up. Of course, whereas the missiles and bombs went up between a factor of 40 and 90, mission rewards doubled or tripled. That's some Biden level economy balancing, there. Meanwhile, I've got my new CPU and cooler on the way. Hope that wasn't a mistake. Even with current rearm and repair costs on just a little bit of damage on a Polaris. I just file an insurance claim. Sounds like I will continue doing the same. Meh. People are nuke and torp crazy as it is currently. It has to cost to more than likely one shot a ship or delete an entire area with many players. These capital ships are meant for orgs or groups of players that all contribute to the costs. Not for solo MMO players. |
History indicates that Conservative Americans only have three speeds: silence, peaceful protest rallies, and Total Industrialized Warfare. They excel at the latter.
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Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: Excessive claims is what got us the price increase if CIG is to be believed. In any case, when you reclaim the ship, it doesn't come with any missiles, bombs, or torps. Full loadout on first appearance after you purchase the ship, everything after that, you're on your own. Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: Originally Posted By M1dW99Z: Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: Yesterday, 12/5/24, CIG announced that missile and bomb prices were going up. A LOT! Completely re-arming your Polaris with missiles will now cost you around 14,000,000uec. Size 10 torpedoes will now cost just north of a new Pisces C8X.ERREBODY PANIC! Today, they announced that the rewards for various missions would also be going up. Of course, whereas the missiles and bombs went up between a factor of 40 and 90, mission rewards doubled or tripled. That's some Biden level economy balancing, there. Meanwhile, I've got my new CPU and cooler on the way. Hope that wasn't a mistake. Even with current rearm and repair costs on just a little bit of damage on a Polaris. I just file an insurance claim. Sounds like I will continue doing the same. Meh. People are nuke and torp crazy as it is currently. It has to cost to more than likely one shot a ship or delete an entire area with many players. These capital ships are meant for orgs or groups of players that all contribute to the costs. Not for solo MMO players. Not anymore, they reverted that bad idea on insurance.  But kept the increased rearm prices.
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Originally Posted By M1dW99Z: Not anymore, they reverted that bad idea on insurance. But kept the increased rearm prices.Originally Posted By M1dW99Z: Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: Originally Posted By M1dW99Z: Originally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: Yesterday, 12/5/24, CIG announced that missile and bomb prices were going up. A LOT! Completely re-arming your Polaris with missiles will now cost you around 14,000,000uec. Size 10 torpedoes will now cost just north of a new Pisces C8X.ERREBODY PANIC! Today, they announced that the rewards for various missions would also be going up. Of course, whereas the missiles and bombs went up between a factor of 40 and 90, mission rewards doubled or tripled. That's some Biden level economy balancing, there. Meanwhile, I've got my new CPU and cooler on the way. Hope that wasn't a mistake. Even with current rearm and repair costs on just a little bit of damage on a Polaris. I just file an insurance claim. Sounds like I will continue doing the same. Meh. People are nuke and torp crazy as it is currently. It has to cost to more than likely one shot a ship or delete an entire area with many players. These capital ships are meant for orgs or groups of players that all contribute to the costs. Not for solo MMO players. Not anymore, they reverted that bad idea on insurance. But kept the increased rearm prices. |
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I need to reallocate my ships, I think I have far too many low level ones that will be easy to get in game and I need to melt them to get another large or sub-capitol. I have a Polaris, Hammerhead, Phoenix, and a bunch of Hornets and smaller. I think a Gemini and Cutlass Blue, maybe a Vanguard or Harbinger, on melt? Kharn |
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Originally Posted By Kharn: I need to reallocate my ships, I think I have far too many low level ones that will be easy to get in game and I need to melt them to get another large or sub-capitol. I have a Polaris, Hammerhead, Phoenix, and a bunch of Hornets and smaller. I think a Gemini and Cutlass Blue, maybe a Vanguard or Harbinger, on melt? Kharn The Pheonix might actually turn out to be a beast, only reason I don't have one is there's no way to discount it. Yeah small ships aren't the best value for pledge dollars but then once you upgrade them you end up stuck because you don't get your CCU chain back, so you end up locked into larger and larger ships if you keep playing that game. I have a $150 Polaris, and sub-$175 Perseus, BMM, Crucible, Endeavor, and Caterpillar, and sub-$100 Corsair, Taurus, Zeus MR, $20 Titan and Tana, and free Gladius and Dragonflies. $1200 melt total so it's never worthwhile for me to melt anything and half of them don't melt anyway. Might check the loaner matrix and see if you can get the ships you want to fly now with the ships you want to own later. I think I got a Harbinger with my Perseus and I know I have an Andromeda from the Crucible. And yeah, I should have just bought a Titan and maybe gotten the freebies, but it happened over a decade. |
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Originally Posted By K2QB3: The Pheonix might actually turn out to be a beast, only reason I don't have one is there's no way to discount it. Yeah small ships aren't the best value for pledge dollars but then once you upgrade them you end up stuck because you don't get your CCU chain back, so you end up locked into larger and larger ships if you keep playing that game. I have a $150 Polaris, and sub-$175 Perseus, BMM, Crucible, Endeavor, and Caterpillar, and sub-$100 Corsair, Taurus, Zeus MR, $20 Titan and Tana, and free Gladius and Dragonflies. $1200 melt total so it's never worthwhile for me to melt anything and half of them don't melt anyway. Might check the loaner matrix and see if you can get the ships you want to fly now with the ships you want to own later. I think I got a Harbinger with my Perseus and I know I have an Andromeda from the Crucible. And yeah, I should have just bought a Titan and maybe gotten the freebies, but it happened over a decade. Originally Posted By K2QB3: Originally Posted By Kharn: I need to reallocate my ships, I think I have far too many low level ones that will be easy to get in game and I need to melt them to get another large or sub-capitol. I have a Polaris, Hammerhead, Phoenix, and a bunch of Hornets and smaller. I think a Gemini and Cutlass Blue, maybe a Vanguard or Harbinger, on melt? Kharn The Pheonix might actually turn out to be a beast, only reason I don't have one is there's no way to discount it. Yeah small ships aren't the best value for pledge dollars but then once you upgrade them you end up stuck because you don't get your CCU chain back, so you end up locked into larger and larger ships if you keep playing that game. I have a $150 Polaris, and sub-$175 Perseus, BMM, Crucible, Endeavor, and Caterpillar, and sub-$100 Corsair, Taurus, Zeus MR, $20 Titan and Tana, and free Gladius and Dragonflies. $1200 melt total so it's never worthwhile for me to melt anything and half of them don't melt anyway. Might check the loaner matrix and see if you can get the ships you want to fly now with the ships you want to own later. I think I got a Harbinger with my Perseus and I know I have an Andromeda from the Crucible. And yeah, I should have just bought a Titan and maybe gotten the freebies, but it happened over a decade. I haven't given the game any new money or much attention in 5+ years, how did you get such big discounts? My Polaris and Hammerhead were full price in their initial sales, but all but 2-3 of my small ships are LTI. Kharn |
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Originally Posted By K2QB3: The Pheonix might actually turn out to be a beast, only reason I don't have one is there's no way to discount it. Yeah small ships aren't the best value for pledge dollars but then once you upgrade them you end up stuck because you don't get your CCU chain back, so you end up locked into larger and larger ships if you keep playing that game. I have a $150 Polaris, and sub-$175 Perseus, BMM, Crucible, Endeavor, and Caterpillar, and sub-$100 Corsair, Taurus, Zeus MR, $20 Titan and Tana, and free Gladius and Dragonflies. $1200 melt total so it's never worthwhile for me to melt anything and half of them don't melt anyway. Might check the loaner matrix and see if you can get the ships you want to fly now with the ships you want to own later. I think I got a Harbinger with my Perseus and I know I have an Andromeda from the Crucible. And yeah, I should have just bought a Titan and maybe gotten the freebies, but it happened over a decade. Originally Posted By K2QB3: Originally Posted By Kharn: I need to reallocate my ships, I think I have far too many low level ones that will be easy to get in game and I need to melt them to get another large or sub-capitol. I have a Polaris, Hammerhead, Phoenix, and a bunch of Hornets and smaller. I think a Gemini and Cutlass Blue, maybe a Vanguard or Harbinger, on melt? Kharn The Pheonix might actually turn out to be a beast, only reason I don't have one is there's no way to discount it. Yeah small ships aren't the best value for pledge dollars but then once you upgrade them you end up stuck because you don't get your CCU chain back, so you end up locked into larger and larger ships if you keep playing that game. I have a $150 Polaris, and sub-$175 Perseus, BMM, Crucible, Endeavor, and Caterpillar, and sub-$100 Corsair, Taurus, Zeus MR, $20 Titan and Tana, and free Gladius and Dragonflies. $1200 melt total so it's never worthwhile for me to melt anything and half of them don't melt anyway. Might check the loaner matrix and see if you can get the ships you want to fly now with the ships you want to own later. I think I got a Harbinger with my Perseus and I know I have an Andromeda from the Crucible. And yeah, I should have just bought a Titan and maybe gotten the freebies, but it happened over a decade. Always assuming, that is, that the new processor that's on its way makes the game playable for me. I checked last night, and Star Citizen alone was using 16+ gig of ram and 70+% of CPU, along with 100% of my bandwidth. |
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