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11/9/2019 2:49:58 PM EDT
I’ve been out for quite some time and was thinking about it after a question was asked of me based on current tech.

What are the current regs on cell phone use and possession while underway?
11/9/2019 2:51:50 PM EDT
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Ship dependent.  There's no specific Navy regulation I was ever aware of.
11/9/2019 3:01:39 PM EDT
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With tech the way it is now can sailors have those phones powered on while underway? Are they limited to what they can access?

Seems like it would be an opsec issue with gps connections on apps now.

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11/9/2019 3:07:53 PM EDT
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Seems like it would be an opsec issue with gps connections on apps now.
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Ship dependent.  There's no specific Navy regulation I was ever aware of.
With tech the way it is now can sailors have those phones powered on while underway? Are they limited to what they can access?

Seems like it would be an opsec issue with gps connections on apps now.
There's no cell connection they can generally get underway.  Just having GPS doesn't do anything -- people know where the ship is anyway.

They can't connect them to shipboard networks at all.

And generally they have to be in airplane mode -- emcon is definitely a thing.
11/9/2019 3:08:28 PM EDT
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With tech the way it is now can sailors have those phones powered on while underway? Are they limited to what they can access?

Seems like it would be an opsec issue with gps connections on apps now.

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Ship dependent.  There's no specific Navy regulation I was ever aware of.
With tech the way it is now can sailors have those phones powered on while underway? Are they limited to what they can access?

Seems like it would be an opsec issue with gps connections on apps now.

@Paul
Paul's been out of the Navy a whole lot longer than I have... lol.  I'm not sure they had cell phones when he was in!
11/9/2019 3:13:33 PM EDT
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There's no cell connection they can generally get underway.  Just having GPS doesn't do anything -- people know where the ship is anyway.

They can't connect them to shipboard networks at all.

And generally they have to be in airplane mode -- emcon is definitely a thing.
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11/9/2019 3:14:35 PM EDT
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Not normally allowed onboard submarines in port. Allowed underway where the only problem would be sailors taking pictures of things they shouldn't.
11/9/2019 3:19:14 PM EDT
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Wasn't there a guy recently courtmartialed for posting pics taken on a sub?  It was him and some crew bit the background is what got him trouble.

Found it
11/9/2019 3:22:03 PM EDT
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A nuke MM1 took pics in the engineroom. He was tried and went to prison. I believe Trump pardoned him.

ETA: MM1(SS) Saucier
11/9/2019 6:03:13 PM EDT
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Once you're at sea the number of cell towers reduces a bunch.

I've been out 15 years but aboard USS Abraham Lincoln personal cellphones weren't supposed to be used. That said we'd often anchor off the coast close enough, or sail slow lazy circles outside the harbor and guys would use their phones.

One the Low Earth Obit (LEO) satellite constellation fills in the new 5G phones will be able to connect anywhere on the plant. It's another amazing piece of technology that will change our world in ways we can't even guess at yet.
11/9/2019 6:04:17 PM EDT
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I didn't have one but I was the Phone God ... I always got a dial tone.
11/9/2019 6:22:02 PM EDT
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No cell bases on aircraft carriers and the like?

Seems like it would be good for crew morale - and could be enabled or disabled at will.
11/9/2019 6:42:19 PM EDT
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Once you're at sea the number of cell towers reduces a bunch.

I've been out 15 years but aboard USS Abraham Lincoln personal cellphones weren't supposed to be used. That said we'd often anchor off the coast close enough, or sail slow lazy circles outside the harbor and guys would use their phones.

One the Low Earth Obit (LEO) satellite constellation fills in the new 5G phones will be able to connect anywhere on the plant. It's another amazing piece of technology that will change our world in ways we can't even guess at yet.
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When we’re you on the Lincoln?
11/9/2019 10:27:23 PM EDT
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No cell bases on aircraft carriers and the like?

Seems like it would be good for crew morale - and could be enabled or disabled at will.
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Once you're at sea the number of cell towers reduces a bunch.
No cell bases on aircraft carriers and the like?

Seems like it would be good for crew morale - and could be enabled or disabled at will.
you want to run a cell station for 5000 people in the middle of the ocean?  That's a bad idea and it would be a pain in the ass.
11/9/2019 11:10:05 PM EDT
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A nuke MM1 took pics in the engineroom. He was tried and went to prison. I believe Trump pardoned him.

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I wonder if people called him “Chef”?
11/9/2019 11:33:17 PM EDT
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There's no cell connection they can generally get underway.  Just having GPS doesn't do anything -- people know where the ship is anyway.

They can't connect them to shipboard networks at all.

And generally they have to be in airplane mode -- emcon is definitely a thing.
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This. Unless you have a satellite phone you’re not getting a signal while underway.

Sure you can use the GPS still but that’s received data - not transmitted data.

The bigger issue with phones underway would be... if they’re used in secure areas (cameras are no-go there) or if someone managed to get on the network.
11/9/2019 11:47:08 PM EDT
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you want to run a cell station for 5000 people in the middle of the ocean?  That's a bad idea and it would be a pain in the ass.
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Had one ship do that. They installed a prepaid phone system, similar to the pay phones we had back in boot camp. The rates were $1/minute and used the satellite. Only thing is, it was a “one or the other” setup. They set up specific hours for the ”sailor phones” but as always official communications took precedence.

Of course this was also back when pay phones were still a thing, and smart phones didn’t exist.
11/10/2019 1:48:55 AM EDT
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No cell bases on aircraft carriers and the like?

Seems like it would be good for crew morale - and could be enabled or disabled at will.
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Once you're at sea the number of cell towers reduces a bunch.
No cell bases on aircraft carriers and the like?

Seems like it would be good for crew morale - and could be enabled or disabled at will.
 Guess you never heard about old man Faraday's Cage?
11/10/2019 7:57:13 AM EDT
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Had one ship do that. They installed a prepaid phone system, similar to the pay phones we had back in boot camp. The rates were $1/minute and used the satellite. Only thing is, it was a “one or the other” setup. They set up specific hours for the ”sailor phones” but as always official communications took precedence.

Of course this was also back when pay phones were still a thing, and smart phones didn’t exist.
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you want to run a cell station for 5000 people in the middle of the ocean?  That's a bad idea and it would be a pain in the ass.
Had one ship do that. They installed a prepaid phone system, similar to the pay phones we had back in boot camp. The rates were $1/minute and used the satellite. Only thing is, it was a “one or the other” setup. They set up specific hours for the ”sailor phones” but as always official communications took precedence.

Of course this was also back when pay phones were still a thing, and smart phones didn’t exist.
Sailor phones have been a thing since before I precommed Truman in 97.
11/13/2019 11:28:00 PM EDT
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Mission accomplished!

'98-'01
11/13/2019 11:33:14 PM EDT
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We had BG Cell (Battle Group Cell) where designated ships phones could call from one ship to the other across some modified off-the-shelf gear. The bridge could always talk to the other ... same with combat but to have a guy working on a gyro on one ship call the one 8 miles away and chat about a repair was amazing. Soon afterwards I was delivered a system that nobody wanted - it was a remote classroom with multiple cameras, microphones, printers, copier/scanners, and a big TV all connected to a system which could send live audio and video back to the US. The training department loved it but also medial and engineering when they could see pictures of an X-ray or damaged gear across the cameras and get guidance on how to fix the bone or elevator gear train.

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