SHOTGUN is your Friend Come SHTF (Page 2 of 2)
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Originally Posted By 50-140: My 870P with Vang comp enhancements loaded with Fed Tac 00buck, I sure as heck wouldn't want to be on the business end of it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/103648/IMG_0104_JPG-726522.jpg Mind posting the picture of that couch after you beat the ugly out of it with buckshot? |
| I have an 870 ready to go for home defense (plus a G17 and a WASR 10/63 in different locations) I feel totally comfortable with it in that role and I I’ve always used pumps since I was little but if there was ever a situation where I’m leaving my house with a long gun it will certainly be a rifle |
| I love me a 12 gauge, and I’ll always keep one around. But if I have to go mobile, the shotgun is getting stashed so I can carry more ammo. |
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Originally Posted By JohnStoner: So have black powder, lever guns and six shooters. Doesnt make em a good choice. Originally Posted By JohnStoner: Originally Posted By cletussd: And there's the ignorance. Shotguns have been in use by Military's since they were developed. So have black powder, lever guns and six shooters. Doesnt make em a good choice. Are any of those still used by any modern military ? |
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Against an armored stack of black helicopter-delivered agents of the New World Order, which are coming through the front door- I would prefer to face-shoot them with a Benelli m2 loaded with #4 buck, over an AR. |
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Originally Posted By JohnStoner: Shotguns are pretty excellent for defense Against winged assailants. |
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Originally Posted By Ironmaker: With a bayonet!! Me this past weekend, I won this stage:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZMWMZH7tqIETA: I HATE the term "shottie" How f'in hard is it to say or type "shotgun"  Were you rocking a surplus Ohio National Guard model? Bonus Points for the Bayonet! BIGGER_HAMMER 
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BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT SHOUTING "HOLY $H!T...WHAT A RIDE"!!
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Originally Posted By StraightMiataMan: oh boy here we go again. Tl;dr - shotguns work, carbines work better. With the exception of birds there's nothing a shotgun does that something else doesn't do better. They're largely old tech with objective flaws and failures in comparison to rifles that live on because of their price for versatility, and fuddlore. I don't know, the military thinks you're pretty good for breaching doors |
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Originally Posted By ztug: I don't know, the military thinks you're pretty good for breaching doors Originally Posted By ztug: Originally Posted By StraightMiataMan: oh boy here we go again. Tl;dr - shotguns work, carbines work better. With the exception of birds there's nothing a shotgun does that something else doesn't do better. They're largely old tech with objective flaws and failures in comparison to rifles that live on because of their price for versatility, and fuddlore. I don't know, the military thinks you're pretty good for breaching doors They’re useful in a very limited role…for mil and LE. |
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Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: Were you rocking a surplus Ohio National Guard model? Bonus Points for the Bayonet! BIGGER_HAMMER Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: Originally Posted By Ironmaker: With a bayonet!! Me this past weekend, I won this stage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZMWMZH7tqIETA: I HATE the term "shottie" How f'in hard is it to say or type "shotgun" Were you rocking a surplus Ohio National Guard model? Bonus Points for the Bayonet! BIGGER_HAMMER Yep, OHG model...amazingly smooth action. The left side is all banged up from being carried via a sling (see pictures from Katrina), but internally it appeared to be unfired, it's not now 
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Originally Posted By Ironmaker: With a bayonet!! Me this past weekend, I won this stage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZMWMZH7tqIETA: I HATE the term "shottie" How f'in hard is it to say or type "shotgun" If you call my Rottweilers "Rotties", I'm sic'ing them on you. 
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LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL PRESERVED BODY,
BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT SHOUTING "HOLY $H!T...WHAT A RIDE"!!
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Originally Posted By RevolverRO: Look at a cardboard box of 12 ga buckshot (25 rounds). How many rounds of 5.56 will fit in the same space? 12 gauge Vs. .22LR Depends if the Zombies are FAST Violent Ones rushing to kill you, or very slow shambling dumb ones. |
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BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT SHOUTING "HOLY $H!T...WHAT A RIDE"!!
BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT SHOUTING "HOLY $H!T...WHAT A RIDE"!!
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Originally Posted By cletussd: And there's the ignorance. Shotguns have been in use by Military's since they were developed. Your house isn't Firebase Gloria and the ROE sure is fuck is different. |
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IIRC I read somewhere that when a big game hunter (Africa I think) would just wound something and it crawled off they would send the lackeys in the bush to look for it and that they would be armed with shotguns. Probably 12 or 10 gauge. Made perfect sense to me. |
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Originally Posted By Dace: Heavy gun, extremely heavy ammo, low capacity and slow reload time. Whats not to love in a zombie apocalypse... Exactly. Shotguns are only useful is a very narrow spectrum of situations. A good Semi Automatic Centerfire Magazine Fed Rifle with lots of ammo and magazines would serve you better in just about every possible situation. |
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Originally Posted By 03RN: Oh you ignorant kids  Originally Posted By 03RN: Originally Posted By Giselle: Shot guns work great for shooting foul. Oh you ignorant kids Well if you’re being attacked by zombie crows, then your boomstick is incredibly handy. 
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Originally Posted By Gr8Santini: Need to get mine put back together. Magazine fed master race! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/23396/1D470681-BFFF-4C76-BF7B-2D625FCC4B35-973443.jpg Nice , it that a Saiga or something else ? |
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Originally Posted By SirSqueeboo: Well if you’re being attacked by zombie crows, then your boomstick is incredibly handy. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-J4OkBduS12I/UctycGlPUFI/AAAAAAAAAjk/Elt_V_Wo5z4/s1600/Zombie+crows.jpg what movie is that from ?? |
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Originally Posted By Sniper3142: Exactly. Shotguns are only useful is a very narrow spectrum of situations. A good Semi Automatic Centerfire Magazine Fed Rifle with lots of ammo and magazines would serve you better in just about every possible situation. While they do have limited uses, they can still be a handy to have in the arsenal. Bullpup is pretty good in confined locations.  Barrel: 20 Inches, Compensated Length: 32 Inches. Mini Buckshot Shells: 13 + 1 Recoil: Minimal |
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Originally Posted By ban-hater: Is a belt fed shotgun possible, or has it been done before? Yes, yes it has. Interesting. A 12 gauge mini gun with 00 buck would be interesting as well used in an area denial context. Picture a Claymore type wall of lead. I know we already have Claymores but are they really used today? |
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I just sold my Mossberg 930 Field Security Combo because I thought it was going to replace this old girl that I have had for years and have packed a lot of miles up and down a lot of mountains. I thought the tang safety was going to work better but the whole 930 just felt off. The 870 was the keeper in the bunch and with the 12.5" barrel it handles like a charm.  Woohoo first post
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In the right environment a shotgun will be fine. I'd want additional weapons on hand as the guns run out, if there is no opportunity to reload in a timely manner No way would I be trusting those DAPS and side SAPIs to keep from getting bitten Maybe they're better than nothing |
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