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Posted: 5/20/2019 9:31:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BeNotAfraid]
 plus, the old SMASH 'n SLASH:  The 12 Ga Riot-gun & The Bayonet the good 'ole 12 bore eats many flavors:  ...American Partisan...your good friend.... |
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Posted: 5/20/2019 9:52:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/20/2019 10:08:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/20/2019 10:19:43 AM EDT
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portal is open
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Posted: 5/20/2019 10:21:20 AM EDT
[#4]
My shotgun is easy to grab also. But please don't call it a shottie, that's just stupid.
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Posted: 5/20/2019 10:44:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Ironmaker]
[#5]
With a bayonet!!
Me this past weekend, I won this stage:  Tactical Shotgun ETA: I HATE the term "shottie" How f'in hard is it to say or type "shotgun" 
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Posted: 5/20/2019 10:57:13 AM EDT
[#6]
that is some fine shooting! good job
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Posted: 5/20/2019 11:05:24 AM EDT
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Shotguns are pretty excellent for defense
Against winged assailants. |
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Posted: 5/20/2019 11:06:18 AM EDT
[#8]
Heavy gun, extremely heavy ammo, low capacity and slow reload time. Whats not to love in a zombie apocalypse...
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Posted: 5/20/2019 12:17:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dace:
Heavy gun, extremely heavy ammo, low capacity and slow reload time. Whats not to love in a zombie apocalypse... |
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Posted: 5/20/2019 12:26:37 PM EDT
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In.
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Posted: 5/20/2019 12:30:30 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By echo_5:
Within the realistic, legal, and practical application of self defense, shotguns are amazing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By echo_5:
Originally Posted By Dace:
Heavy gun, extremely heavy ammo, low capacity and slow reload time. Whats not to love in a zombie apocalypse... |
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Posted: 5/20/2019 12:35:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dace:
In the real world yes. In Zombie Central they are a terrible choice. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dace:
Originally Posted By echo_5:
Originally Posted By Dace:
Heavy gun, extremely heavy ammo, low capacity and slow reload time. Whats not to love in a zombie apocalypse... 
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Posted: 5/20/2019 12:38:57 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dace:
In the real world yes. In Zombie Central they are a terrible choice. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dace:
Originally Posted By echo_5:
Originally Posted By Dace:
Heavy gun, extremely heavy ammo, low capacity and slow reload time. Whats not to love in a zombie apocalypse... Lot's of tactical shotgun videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJh8c0YB4iFGTXWvqO_E8sQ One of my favorites:  Francis Marion Shotgun Match 2012 - Dry Land |
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Posted: 5/20/2019 1:02:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BeNotAfraid:
https://masondixontactical.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/iraq-pic3.jpg?resize=657%2C821 plus, the old SMASH 'n SLASH: https://masondixontactical.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/bayonet-post11.jpg?resize=576%2C702 The 12 Ga Riot-gun & The Bayonet the good 'ole 12 bore eats many flavors: https://masondixontactical.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/bayonet-post9.jpg?resize=648%2C570 ...American Partisan...your good friend.... |
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Posted: 5/20/2019 1:04:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ironmaker:
Also, I have shot a lot of tactical shotgun matches in my life, see my youtube channel and new shooters run out of ammo much faster than they realize, one has to continually stuff shells into the shotgun. Lot's of tactical shotgun videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJh8c0YB4iFGTXWvqO_E8sQ One of my favorites:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21ggQc8Hop0Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ironmaker:
Originally Posted By Dace:
Originally Posted By echo_5:
Originally Posted By Dace:
Heavy gun, extremely heavy ammo, low capacity and slow reload time. Whats not to love in a zombie apocalypse... Lot's of tactical shotgun videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJh8c0YB4iFGTXWvqO_E8sQ One of my favorites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21ggQc8Hop0But for Zombies? Terrible choice. I also seat short stroking a lot with people who are in time constraints and pressure with a pump action. |
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Posted: 5/20/2019 1:54:34 PM EDT
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My 870P with Vang comp enhancements loaded with Fed Tac 00buck, I sure as heck wouldn't want to be on the business end of it.
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Posted: 5/20/2019 2:01:13 PM EDT
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oh boy here we go again.
Tl;dr - shotguns work, carbines work better. With the exception of birds there's nothing a shotgun does that something else doesn't do better. They're largely old tech with objective flaws and failures in comparison to rifles that live on because of their price for versatility, and fuddlore. |
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Posted: 5/20/2019 4:00:04 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StraightMiataMan:
oh boy here we go again. Tl;dr - shotguns work, carbines work better. With the exception of birds there's nothing a shotgun does that something else doesn't do better. They're largely old tech with objective flaws and failures in comparison to rifles that live on because of their price for versatility, and fuddlore. |
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Posted: 5/20/2019 5:45:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StraightMiataMan:
oh boy here we go again. Tl;dr - shotguns work, carbines work better. With the exception of birds there's nothing a shotgun does that something else doesn't do better. They're largely old tech with objective flaws and failures in comparison to rifles that live on because of their price for versatility, and fuddlore. |
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Posted: 5/20/2019 5:46:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Miami_JBT:
Why is he holding a rifle in the left hand? 
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Posted: 5/20/2019 7:10:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnStoner:
Shotguns are pretty excellent for defense Against winged assailants. Shotguns have been in use by Military's since they were developed. |
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Posted: 5/20/2019 10:40:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cletussd:
And there's the ignorance. Shotguns have been in use by Military's since they were developed. |
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Posted: 5/20/2019 11:37:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RustedAce]
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Originally Posted By BeNotAfraid:
https://masondixontactical.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/iraq-pic3.jpg?resize=657%2C821 Hitlerverse confirmed. |
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Posted: 5/21/2019 12:16:37 AM EDT
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I guess OP has a point.
You gotta figure, shotshells are heavy, so people can only carry so many of them. It also sucks to reload, and even people who practice a lot often drop shells under stress. The gun also runs dry very fast and is slow to reload, so a bunch of people will probably get killed before they can shoot all their ammo. Considering that, there should be plentiful ammo all over the place, really. |
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Posted: 5/21/2019 12:22:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man:
My shotgun is easy to grab also. But please don't call it a shottie, that's just stupid. |
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Posted: 5/21/2019 6:36:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnStoner:
So have black powder, lever guns and six shooters. Doesnt make em a good choice. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnStoner:
Originally Posted By cletussd:
And there's the ignorance. Shotguns have been in use by Military's since they were developed. |
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Posted: 5/21/2019 8:35:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Sakura]
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Posted: 5/21/2019 8:57:07 AM EDT
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In a true SHTF situation I think 22 LR will be your friend. You can carry lots of ammo, it's relatively quiet, it's everywhere, and when the game laws are gone you can kill anything found in North America w/ it if you place your shot correctly.
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Posted: 5/21/2019 3:25:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JohnStoner]
[#29]
Originally Posted By cletussd:
Does the Military still use Black Powder,Lever Action or 6 Shooters? In favor of better performing, higher capacity, faster weapons. Weapons that utilize ammunition with better ballistic properties, lighter weight, high carrying quantity etc. Maybe faster to reload too. Something something shotgun. |
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Posted: 6/2/2019 11:12:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnStoner:
Shotguns are pretty excellent for defense Against winged assailants. |
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Posted: 6/2/2019 11:20:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man:
My shotgun is easy to grab also. But please don't call it a shottie, that's just stupid. |
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Posted: 6/2/2019 11:24:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhereg:
In a true SHTF situation I think 22 LR will be your friend. You can carry lots of ammo, it's relatively quiet, it's everywhere, and when the game laws are gone you can kill anything found in North America w/ it if you place your shot correctly. If they are the fast moving run you down & eat you dead of "Dawn of the Dead" then a shotgun to make "head canoes" is my choice... |
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Posted: 6/2/2019 11:37:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cletussd:
And there's the ignorance. Shotguns have been in use by Military's since they were developed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cletussd:
Originally Posted By JohnStoner:
Shotguns are pretty excellent for defense Against winged assailants. Shotguns have been in use by Military's since they were developed. Shotguns are a mediocre weapon in all but a very limited set of circumstances. |
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Posted: 6/9/2019 10:02:07 AM EDT
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Shotguns are good for a lot of things. But, I have to agree with the forum. This is a good time
to think about AOW though. The shorter profile will allow you to keep them as a backup weapon, breaching tool, and can stop a suicidal terrorist with one shot to the head. But as a primary? Pistol Carbine. |
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Posted: 6/9/2019 10:18:37 AM EDT
[#35]
Need to get mine put back together. Magazine fed master race!
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Posted: 6/9/2019 10:33:17 AM EDT
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Get both
Beretta 1301 tac with fed 00 buck 11.5 BCM pistol with fed fusion |
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Posted: 6/9/2019 11:19:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ban-hater]
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Posted: 7/8/2019 7:08:32 PM EDT
[#38]
Look at a cardboard box of 12 ga buckshot (25 rounds). How many rounds of 5.56 will fit in the same space?
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Posted: 7/8/2019 8:01:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RevolverRO:
Look at a cardboard box of 12 ga buckshot (25 rounds). How many rounds of 5.56 will fit in the same space? |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 4:44:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhereg:
How much 22 LR will fit in the same box? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhereg:
Originally Posted By RevolverRO:
Look at a cardboard box of 12 ga buckshot (25 rounds). How many rounds of 5.56 will fit in the same space? 
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Posted: 10/2/2019 6:31:19 AM EDT
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If I were to step into the world of TWD, I would want a Ruger 10/22 with a 3x9 scope. And I sure wouldn’t stay along the eastern seaboard where so many zombies would be. I’d cross the Ole Miss and try to live a boring life.
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Posted: 10/4/2019 12:47:45 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhereg:
In a true SHTF situation I think 22 LR will be your friend. You can carry lots of ammo, it's relatively quiet, it's everywhere, and when the game laws are gone you can kill anything found in North America w/ it if you place your shot correctly. |
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Posted: 10/4/2019 12:50:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SirSqueeboo: And that proves exactly what? Shotguns are a mediocre weapon in all but a very limited set of circumstances. 
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Posted: 10/4/2019 1:02:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StraightMiataMan:
oh boy here we go again. Tl;dr - shotguns work, carbines work better. With the exception of birds there's nothing a shotgun does that something else doesn't do better. They're largely old tech with objective flaws and failures in comparison to rifles that live on because of their price for versatility, and fuddlore. |
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Posted: 10/21/2020 2:37:32 PM EDT
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I like to use Mexico and the cartel shootoit leftovers for examples of what works and doesn't in shtf.
Can't say I've seen any shootout leftovers using shotguns. Too long to use in a car, reloading is long, range is at best 75 yards with flight control rounds. I've got one but its really a specific use kinda weapon. If I was staging last defense kinda thing a tube full of slug and buck would be devastating but again I'd still take a 30 round mag of 5.56 over that. A bear charging me however........... |
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Posted: 10/21/2020 5:21:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fuchi: I like to use Mexico and the cartel shootoit leftovers for examples of what works and doesn't in shtf. Can't say I've seen any shootout leftovers using shotguns. Too long to use in a car, reloading is long, range is at best 75 yards with flight control rounds. I've got one but its really a specific use kinda weapon. If I was staging last defense kinda thing a tube full of slug and buck would be devastating but again I'd still take a 30 round mag of 5.56 over that. A bear charging me however........... You just brought back a thread that is over one year old. Seems appropriate for the zombie forum. |
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Posted: 10/21/2020 8:01:01 PM EDT
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For the price of a shotgun, and the price of ammo right now, it isn't a bad idea as a home defense weapon, but, realistically, given the size of the crowds I see going down the street, it wouldn't be my first choice if I was alone. Hard to keep fed, and hard to get on target vs. a much lighter weapon, like a carbine, or a pistol variant, the juice probably isn't worth the squeeze.
It will however, for the most part, incapacitate someone almost immediately. It will shut down the computer if that's what's needed. But first choice of weapon, naturally, would be the carbine, with a lot of ammo. Of course, it's all relative anyway. Against armor, or drones, or anything else even remotely significant, you'll probably end up feeling you might as well have a cap gun for as much effect on target as you are having. Yeah, an Ar 15 can be an equalizer against multiple assailants, but, at the same time, can be about as worthless as tits on a bull if what you're facing is bringing anything remotely resembling ass. it's all relative. A shotgun can decisively end a fight. A small one. With a limited number of protagonists. Anything more than that, and you're going to wish for something bigger. Heck, everyone wishes for something bigger. An AR might not cut it if a 240 is clearly called for. On and on. |
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Posted: 10/22/2020 1:35:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SirSqueeboo: You just brought back a thread that is over one year old. Seems appropriate for the zombie forum. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SirSqueeboo: Originally Posted By Fuchi: I like to use Mexico and the cartel shootoit leftovers for examples of what works and doesn't in shtf. Can't say I've seen any shootout leftovers using shotguns. Too long to use in a car, reloading is long, range is at best 75 yards with flight control rounds. I've got one but its really a specific use kinda weapon. If I was staging last defense kinda thing a tube full of slug and buck would be devastating but again I'd still take a 30 round mag of 5.56 over that. A bear charging me however........... You just brought back a thread that is over one year old. Seems appropriate for the zombie forum. To be honest I don't read this forum too often. Maybe many don't it would seem. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 3:28:43 PM EDT
[#49]
might be the only ammo left at least in my AO for that matter 28 gauge anyone?
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Posted: 1/25/2021 4:31:05 PM EDT
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Skinny Italian ladies are where it’s at.
They kill with their hot looks.  DSC_1669-M2 Barrel Billboard by FredMan, on Flickr M2 SBS by FredMan, on Flickr
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