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6/25/2026 10:09:13 AM EDT
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/24-1046_nmio.pdf
The court holds that the Hawaii law is unconstitutional


Held: Hawaii’s law prohibiting licensed concealed-carry permit holders
from carrying handguns on private property open to the public without
the property owner’s express authorization violates the Second and
Fourteenth Amendments. Pp. 13–24.

(a) The restrictions imposed by Hawaii’s challenged law fall within
the plain text of the Second Amendment, so the law is presumptively
unconstitutional. No party disputes that petitioners are among “the
people” protected by the Second Amendment or that they seek to “bear”
“Arms.” Therefore, “the plain text of the Second Amendment protects”
what petitioners want to do: carry handguns for self-defense. Bruen,
597 U. S., at 32. To be sure, owners of establishments that are open to
the public can admit or exclude persons who are carrying guns for self
defense under either the common-law rule or Hawaii’s law. But
Hawaii’s shift from the common-law rule unquestionably imposes a
new and significant burden on the exercise of the right recognized in
Bruen. For example, proprietors who do not object to entry by carry
permit holders may be reluctant to post welcoming signs for fear of
alienating customers. So under Hawaii’s new default rule, a proprietor
in this category may only be willing to consent discreetly to the entry
of permit holders who make the effort to inquire. This arrangement
imposes a new burden on permit holders who will have to somehow
obtain permission to carry a firearm on the property before stepping
foot on it. The law severely hampers the ability of law-abiding citizens
to exercise the right Bruen recognized as they go about their daily
lives. Pp. 13–16.

(b) Hawaii’s proffered historical analogues do not support the constitutionality of its new default rule. Pp. 16–24.

(1) Hawaii’s argument that its “particular customs and laws,”
Brief for Respondent 24, support the new default rule fails because the
Second Amendment has the same meaning in all parts of the United
States. The Second Amendment cannot give way to “the spirit of
Aloha” in Hawaii, contra, State v. Wilson, 154 Haw. 8, 27, 543 P. 3d
440, 459, any more than it can yield to the spirit of the Big Apple
(Bruen) or the Windy City (McDonald). Merely local attitudes can neither shrink nor inflate
the meaning of fundamental Bill of Rights guarantees that apply to the States through the Fourteenth Amendment.
Pp. 16–19.

(2) The State’s colonial and early state law analogues consist almost entirely of laws that prohibited unauthorized hunting of deer or
small game on someone else’s private property. These laws—including
a 1721 Pennsylvania law, 1722 New Jersey statute, 1728 Maryland
statute, 1763 New York law, and 1771 New Jersey law—targeted unauthorized hunting and applied to land where game could be found,
not retail establishments that residents frequent as part of their daily
routines. Those laws had little if any impact on the Second Amendment’s central objective of protecting
the fundamental right to self-defense, and their obvious aim was to prevent the distinctive harms and
risks associated with unauthorized hunting. The gap between the
State’s anti-poaching analogues and its new rule is too wide. Pp. 19–
22.

(3) The State’s remaining analogues are even weaker. An 1893
Oregon law prohibited armed trespass on “enclosed premises,” but it is
unclear whether such premises included commercial establishments
open to the public. Regardless, a lone statute adopted nearly a century
after the adoption of the Second Amendment and well after the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment sheds little if any light on the
meaning of the Second Amendment right.

Hawaii also relies on an 1865 Louisiana statute enacted as part of
the notorious Black Codes to disarm blacks and leave them defenseless
against attacks. As the Court laid out in McDonald, the right to keep
and bear arms was crucially important for vulnerable blacks during
this period. See 561 U. S., at 757, 771, 776–779; id., at 843–846
(THOMAS, J., concurring in part and concurring in judgment). This was
well-understood by the Republicans in Congress who were responsible
for drafting, approving, and securing the ratification of the Fourteenth
Amendment. Against this history, Hawaii’s claim that this tainted artifact from Louisiana’s Black Code illuminates
the original understanding of the right to keep and bear arms cannot be taken seriously.
And even setting aside this statute’s pedigree, it carries no weight because it was neither widespread nor widely accepted. Pp. 22–24.
6/25/2026 10:11:16 AM EDT
[#1]
In before Hawaii passes even stricter laws that will take 8 years in court to be overturned
6/25/2026 10:13:10 AM EDT
[#2]
This law, in case anyone is wondering...

At issue in this case is a Hawaii law that prohibits firearms on
private property open to the public without the express and affirmative
consent of the property owner. Hawaii’s new rule imposes severe re-
strictions on the daily activities of residents who have satisfied the
State’s rigorous requirements for the issuance of a carry permit. When
these permit holders leave home, not only must they take care to avoid
all the territory where the possession of a gun is prohibited outright,
but they may also be barred from entering many places that people
routinely visit in the course of their daily routines, such as gas sta-
tions, restaurants, and stores. This law flips the default rule at com-
mon law, under which anyone has an implied license to enter property
held open to the public unless the property owner withdraws consent.
6/25/2026 10:14:38 AM EDT
[#3]
Nice! The decision seems to be strongly reinforcing text, history, and tradition!

A good stepping stone to assault weapon ban/magazine restriction cases.
6/25/2026 10:15:13 AM EDT
[#4]
This will ruffle some feathers


Hawaii also relies on an 1865 Louisiana statute enacted as part of
the notorious Black Codes to disarm blacks and leave them defenseless
against attacks. As the Court laid out in McDonald, the right to keep
and bear arms was crucially important for vulnerable blacks during
this period.
6/25/2026 10:15:43 AM EDT
[#5]
Good.  
6/25/2026 10:15:49 AM EDT
[#6]
Did I make it before Hawaii says or what?
6/25/2026 10:16:35 AM EDT
[#7]
Awesome.  While I'm sure they will ignore it, this should also affect NYs new CC laws.
6/25/2026 10:17:16 AM EDT
[#8]
Now, hopefully, we can get movement on Duncan and the others.

It would be nice to see a set of per curium decisions for the win, but I'm not hopeful for that.
6/25/2026 10:18:06 AM EDT
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Believe it or not the liberal second circuit court of appeals already ruled the vampire rule unconstitutional.

So this just reaffirms that.
6/25/2026 10:18:20 AM EDT
[#10]
To use a Cuban analogy...Hawaii will wipe its ass with the USSC's ruling.

They'll simply go back to the drawing board and come up with a new way to restrict guns and wait until the SC rules against them again. Wash, rinse, repeat. It's like a game to them.
6/25/2026 10:18:47 AM EDT
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Now, hopefully, we can get movement on Duncan and the others.

It would be nice to see a set of per curium decisions for the win, but I'm not hopeful for that.
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I am guessing all of those will be gvr'd again based on this case, Wolford.

Which gives the liberal anti-gunners years more of delay time unfortunately.
6/25/2026 10:19:50 AM EDT
[#12]
And Hawaii will just continue to say that it isnt in the spirit of aloha.
6/25/2026 10:20:55 AM EDT
[#13]
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I am guessing all of those will be gvr'd again based on this case, Wolford.

Which gives the liberal anti-gunners years more of delay time unfortunately.
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Now, hopefully, we can get movement on Duncan and the others.

It would be nice to see a set of per curium decisions for the win, but I'm not hopeful for that.


I am guessing all of those will be gvr'd again based on this case, Wolford.

Which gives the liberal anti-gunners years more of delay time unfortunately.

Unfortunately I fear taht as well.


not sure what in the last two rulings is on point for the 5 cases, but any chance for SCOTUS to punt, they probably will.
6/25/2026 10:21:28 AM EDT
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This will ruffle some feathers


Hawaii also relies on an 1865 Louisiana statute enacted as part of
the notorious Black Codes to disarm blacks and leave them defenseless
against attacks. As the Court laid out in McDonald, the right to keep
and bear arms was crucially important for vulnerable blacks during
this period.
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You forgot the next line!

A little history lesson for the liberal assholes...

"This was
well-understood by the Republicans in Congress who were responsible
for drafting, approving, and securing the ratification of the Fourteenth
Amendment."
6/25/2026 10:24:51 AM EDT
[#15]
There needs to be criminal consequences for those writing legislation that violates the constitution.
6/25/2026 10:25:19 AM EDT
[#16]
Aside from Hawaii trying to use obvious racist laws as analogies, this decision also does a good job of shutting down some of the supposed analogous hunting laws Hawaii tried to bullshit...

"Those laws had little if any impact on the Second Amend-
ment’s central objective of protecting the fundamental right to self-de-
fense, and their obvious aim was to prevent the distinctive harms and
risks associated with unauthorized hunting. The gap between the
State’s anti-poaching analogues and its new rule is too wide. "
6/25/2026 10:32:32 AM EDT
[#17]
Same old, same old from our pals in HI. Here in Kali, the US DoJ at the behest of DJT, has warned that if Kali does not rescind the Glock ban, the US DoJ will take Kali to court, Kalif Gov Newsom & Kali AG Rob Bonta are running scared. j/k
6/25/2026 10:32:39 AM EDT
[#18]
Hawaiian judge will throw it out stating that the Supreme Court is unconstitutional.

6/25/2026 10:35:18 AM EDT
[#19]
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I was always confused by your desire to live there.

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Hawaiian judge will throw it out stating that the Supreme Court is unconstitutional.



The US Constitution, as well as SCOTUS, is in violation of the Aloha Spirit.
6/25/2026 10:35:49 AM EDT
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this

Especially considering the laws they pass are obvious ploys to bypass current opinions with extremely small technicalities.

A right delayed is a right denied.
6/25/2026 10:39:45 AM EDT
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Hawaii also relies on an 1865 Louisiana statute enacted as part of
the notorious Black Codes to disarm blacks and leave them defenseless
against attacks. As the Court laid out in McDonald, the right to keep
and bear arms was crucially important for vulnerable blacks during this period.
"This was
well-understood by the Republicans in Congress who were responsible for drafting, approving, and securing the ratification of the Fourteenth
Amendment."
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Yup.  Democrats have always been about taking away rights.
6/25/2026 10:42:44 AM EDT
[#22]
This should take the piss out of NY's similar update in response to Bruen. Good news.
6/25/2026 10:43:22 AM EDT
[#23]
Reading Barrett's concurrence.....doesn't seem like she has a problem with the 2A.  The GOAT signed on to her concurrence.
6/25/2026 10:43:46 AM EDT
[#24]
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That's the way they do it, just like Illinois.
6/25/2026 10:45:21 AM EDT
[#25]
Also, regardless of your opinion on Trump, we can thank him for this court. Since election 1, I said as long as we get some appointments it was worth it (and I have the receipts to prove it).

This *is* what I voted for.

Now do AWBs next.
6/25/2026 10:46:31 AM EDT
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Also, regardless of your opinion on Trump, we can thank him for this court. Since election 1, I said as long as we get some appointments it was worth it (and I have the receipts to prove it).

This *is* what I voted for.

Now do AWBs next.
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He needs to beat the Dems in expanding the court to 13 and fill it with real conservatives.
6/25/2026 10:50:54 AM EDT
[#27]

The Second Amendment cannot give way to “the spirit of
Aloha” in Hawaii, contra, State v. Wilson, 154 Haw. 8, 27, 543 P. 3d
440, 459, any more than it can yield to the spirit of the Big Apple
(Bruen) or the Windy City (McDonald). Merely local attitudes can neither shrink nor inflate
the meaning of fundamental Bill of Rights guarantees that apply to the States through the Fourteenth Amendment.
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This is the most important point.
6/25/2026 10:56:07 AM EDT
[#28]
NY has a similar rule that everywhere is a default no carry zone, although I think that already got shot down by a lower court. NY does have an extensive list of no gun areas that make it pretty tough to legally carry
6/25/2026 10:57:07 AM EDT
[#29]
Aloha  oe, aloha  oe,
Goodbye to rules that cast a shadow wide.
The right to bear is welcome on our land,
And freedom walks forever by our side.


Aloha  oe, aloha  oe,
The right to bear is welcome on our land.
With open hearts, we welcome you today,
Until we meet again, we stand.

6/25/2026 10:57:58 AM EDT
[#30]
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Also, regardless of your opinion on Trump, we can thank him for this court. Since election 1, I said as long as we get some appointments it was worth it (and I have the receipts to prove it).

This *is* what I voted for.

Now do AWBs next.
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Yeah Trump putting conservatives in the federal courts and chasing illegals out was pretty much the limit of my expectations.
6/25/2026 10:59:23 AM EDT
[#31]
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Yes the 2nd circus already struck down NYs vampire rule...but the sensitive locations remain in place unfortunately.

Parks and restaurants that serve alcohol are the most ridiculous...those need to go.
6/25/2026 11:02:14 AM EDT
[#32]
Not a single gray bar in this thread. Refreshing.
6/25/2026 11:04:29 AM EDT
[#33]
Now they should toss the politicians who passed the unconstitutional law into a volcano.
6/25/2026 11:16:13 AM EDT
[#34]
Why was it called the vampire rule?
6/25/2026 11:17:55 AM EDT
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You have to get explicit permission from the property owner to enter with a firearm. Like how a vampire can't enter your house unless you invite him in.
6/25/2026 11:18:04 AM EDT
[#36]
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Vampires can't enter a private residence unless invited inside.

We are the vampires in this scenario. Or we WERE.
6/25/2026 11:19:05 AM EDT
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Fuck the spirit of Aloha.

They gave that up in 1959  when they became a state.
6/25/2026 11:19:06 AM EDT
[#38]
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To use a Cuban analogy...Hawaii will wipe its ass with the USSC's ruling.

They'll simply go back to the drawing board and come up with a new way to restrict guns and wait until the SC rules against them again. Wash, rinse, repeat. It's like a game to them.
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Yep, until the states are denied any authority over weapons it will never stop.
6/25/2026 11:20:50 AM EDT
[#39]
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Gently. We don't want to use excessive force while doing it.
6/25/2026 11:27:19 AM EDT
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I think the 2nd circuit already pooped on that provision, there is a bunch that still sucks though.
6/25/2026 11:30:41 AM EDT
[#41]
Honestly, even though this decision didn't touch upon the myriad of sensitive places that liberal states have banned carry in since Bruen...

The fact that this decision strongly reinforces text history and tradition and shoots down a bunch of ridiculous analogous carry laws (which liberal courts have used to justify sensitive places)...

In my opinion this decision invalidates almost all of the sensitive places restrictions... Parks, restaurants that serve alcohol, hospitals... Hell even schools.

There is absolutely no widespread tradition or analogous laws that banned carry in any of these places. Not in the 1700s...not in the 1800s.

6/25/2026 11:30:42 AM EDT
[#42]
Has a Hawaii judge overruled the SCOTUS on this yet?
6/25/2026 11:31:41 AM EDT
[#43]
Sweet
6/25/2026 11:31:46 AM EDT
[#44]
6/25/2026 11:35:01 AM EDT
[#45]
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https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/24-1046_nmio.pdf
The court holds that the Hawaii law is unconstitutional


Held: Hawaii’s law prohibiting licensed concealed-carry permit holders
from carrying handguns on private property open to the public without
the property owner’s express authorization violates the Second and
Fourteenth Amendments. Pp. 13–24.

(a) The restrictions imposed by Hawaii’s challenged law fall within
the plain text of the Second Amendment, so the law is presumptively
unconstitutional. No party disputes that petitioners are among “the
people” protected by the Second Amendment or that they seek to “bear”
“Arms.” Therefore, “the plain text of the Second Amendment protects”
what petitioners want to do: carry handguns for self-defense. Bruen,
597 U. S., at 32. To be sure, owners of establishments that are open to
the public can admit or exclude persons who are carrying guns for self
defense under either the common-law rule or Hawaii’s law. But
Hawaii’s shift from the common-law rule unquestionably imposes a
new and significant burden on the exercise of the right recognized in
Bruen. For example, proprietors who do not object to entry by carry
permit holders may be reluctant to post welcoming signs for fear of
alienating customers. So under Hawaii’s new default rule, a proprietor
in this category may only be willing to consent discreetly to the entry
of permit holders who make the effort to inquire. This arrangement
imposes a new burden on permit holders who will have to somehow
obtain permission to carry a firearm on the property before stepping
foot on it. The law severely hampers the ability of law-abiding citizens
to exercise the right Bruen recognized as they go about their daily
lives. Pp. 13–16.

(b) Hawaii’s proffered historical analogues do not support the constitutionality of its new default rule. Pp. 16–24.

(1) Hawaii’s argument that its “particular customs and laws,”
Brief for Respondent 24, support the new default rule fails because the
Second Amendment has the same meaning in all parts of the United
States. The Second Amendment cannot give way to “the spirit of
Aloha” in Hawaii, contra, State v. Wilson, 154 Haw. 8, 27, 543 P. 3d
440, 459, any more than it can yield to the spirit of the Big Apple
(Bruen) or the Windy City (McDonald). Merely local attitudes can neither shrink nor inflate
the meaning of fundamental Bill of Rights guarantees that apply to the States through the Fourteenth Amendment.
Pp. 16–19.

(2) The State’s colonial and early state law analogues consist almost entirely of laws that prohibited unauthorized hunting of deer or
small game on someone else’s private property. These laws—including
a 1721 Pennsylvania law, 1722 New Jersey statute, 1728 Maryland
statute, 1763 New York law, and 1771 New Jersey law—targeted unauthorized hunting and applied to land where game could be found,
not retail establishments that residents frequent as part of their daily
routines. Those laws had little if any impact on the Second Amendment’s central objective of protecting
the fundamental right to self-defense, and their obvious aim was to prevent the distinctive harms and
risks associated with unauthorized hunting. The gap between the
State’s anti-poaching analogues and its new rule is too wide. Pp. 19–
22.

(3) The State’s remaining analogues are even weaker. An 1893
Oregon law prohibited armed trespass on “enclosed premises,” but it is
unclear whether such premises included commercial establishments
open to the public. Regardless, a lone statute adopted nearly a century
after the adoption of the Second Amendment and well after the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment sheds little if any light on the
meaning of the Second Amendment right.

Hawaii also relies on an 1865 Louisiana statute enacted as part of
the notorious Black Codes to disarm blacks and leave them defenseless
against attacks. As the Court laid out in McDonald, the right to keep
and bear arms was crucially important for vulnerable blacks during
this period. See 561 U. S., at 757, 771, 776–779; id., at 843–846
(THOMAS, J., concurring in part and concurring in judgment). This was
well-understood by the Republicans in Congress who were responsible
for drafting, approving, and securing the ratification of the Fourteenth
Amendment. Against this history, Hawaii’s claim that this tainted artifact from Louisiana’s Black Code illuminates
the original understanding of the right to keep and bear arms cannot be taken seriously.
And even setting aside this statute’s pedigree, it carries no weight because it was neither widespread nor widely accepted. Pp. 22–24.
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Huge win. It reverses the "Vampire" presumption that Hawaii had adopted into law. Carry on private property was banned unless the owner expressly gave permission.

It infringed on 2A's presumption that a legally-armed citizen may lawful carry on public or private property  - especially those normally "open to the public" (e.g., grocery stores, restaurants, hotels,  etc.) -  unless the private-property owner EXPLICITLY publishes or posts a notice otherwise.

The AG's civil-rights division can sue Hawaii if they try to slow-walk compliance with this ruling.
6/25/2026 11:38:34 AM EDT
[#46]
Good. If the decision had went the other way then other states would have used this to screw CCW holders from being able to carry.
6/25/2026 11:39:23 AM EDT
[#47]
Big win and Alito included some instructions for the lower courts.
6/25/2026 11:41:26 AM EDT
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“you have to invite me in”
6/25/2026 11:42:15 AM EDT
[#49]
This win is wonderful. We have had some really good rulings come out over the last few years.
6/25/2026 11:49:56 AM EDT
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I was always confused by your desire to live there.



The US Constitution, as well as SCOTUS, is in violation of the Aloha Spirit.
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No kidding, That is one of the last places I would ever move.

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