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Magpul just announced AR mag compatible Hunter stocks for these Magpul - Hunter American SA STANAG  Magpul - Bolt Action Magazine Well – Hunter American Stock |
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So it does not work with AR mags? The video shows a rear release not the AR side button it works with Stanag or is that old video? |
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Originally Posted By doc_Zox: So it does not work with AR mags? The video shows a rear release not the AR side button it works with Stanag or is that old video? Videos were published today as SHOT Show previews. So I guess we’ll see them in stock around December, lol |
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Went looking for one of these after seeing this thread. Was looking for the 223 ranch version that takes AR mags. Subscribed to grabagun and hit the notify me when in stock thing. They had them last Friday so I grabbed one. Just waiting for it to ship. Should be able to mount my 308 can to it. Just gotta find a scope and rings now. |
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Originally Posted By doc_Zox: So it does not work with AR mags? The video shows a rear release not the AR side button it works with Stanag or is that old video? New video that was posted today. Looks like they figured out a way to have the mag release at the rear instead of on the side. |
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Originally Posted By born2lose76: Magpul just announced AR mag compatible Hunter stocks for these  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEYioyzb7BQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmQFHO_bVywHmm.. wonder if this would work for the 7.62x39 models. I've always wanted to put the Hunter stock on, but the lack of Aics style mags for x39 has been iffy. |
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"A Mk18 is a handgun with a stock"/"10.3 is a 50 yard and in gun" - From SHTF AR Thread
"A Mk18 is a handgun with a stock"/"10.3 is a 50 yard and in gun" - From SHTF AR Thread
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Originally Posted By 2Keylows: Hmm.. wonder if this would work for the 7.62x39 models. I've always wanted to put the Hunter stock on, but the lack of Aics style mags for x39 has been iffy. Originally Posted By 2Keylows: Originally Posted By born2lose76: Magpul just announced AR mag compatible Hunter stocks for these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEYioyzb7BQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmQFHO_bVywHmm.. wonder if this would work for the 7.62x39 models. I've always wanted to put the Hunter stock on, but the lack of Aics style mags for x39 has been iffy. I'm think it isn't going to work with the X39 Ranch. It was clearly stated in the videos that it was for American models that came from the factory using AR mags. |
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Originally Posted By 2A373: I'm think it isn't going to work with the X39 Ranch. It was clearly stated in the videos that it was for American models that came from the factory using AR mags. I remember seeing a mod done with the x39 versions to accept AR mags. If I remember correctly, it was as simple as swapping to the Ruger 223/556 stock with specific paddle mag release you could buy from Ruger. Not sure if it was this forum or another. Regardless, this has me thinking about that project again.  Eta: I can't spell/type |
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"A Mk18 is a handgun with a stock"/"10.3 is a 50 yard and in gun" - From SHTF AR Thread
"A Mk18 is a handgun with a stock"/"10.3 is a 50 yard and in gun" - From SHTF AR Thread
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Originally Posted By 2A373: I'm think it isn't going to work with the X39 Ranch. It was clearly stated in the videos that it was for American models that came from the factory using AR mags. Originally Posted By 2Keylows: I remember seeing a mod done with the x39 versions to accept AR mags. If I remember correctly, it was as simple as swapping to the Ruger 223/556 stock with specific paddle mag release you could buy from Ruger. Not sure if it was this forum or another. Regardless, this has me thinking about that project again. Eta: I can't spell/type You are both correct. The x39 ranch drops into the Magpul stock perfectly. No wiggle at all. Lack of AICS magazines in x39 is the deal breaker. |
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Originally Posted By 2Keylows: I remember seeing a mod done with the x39 versions to accept AR mags. If I remember correctly, it was as simple as swapping to the Ruger 223/556 stock with specific paddle mag release you could buy from Ruger. Not sure if it was this forum or another. Regardless, this has me thinking about that project again. Eta: I can't spell/type There's a video about that on YouTube. |
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Originally Posted By 2Keylows: I remember seeing a mod done with the x39 versions to accept AR mags. If I remember correctly, it was as simple as swapping to the Ruger 223/556 stock with specific paddle mag release you could buy from Ruger. Not sure if it was this forum or another. Regardless, this has me thinking about that project again. Eta: I can't spell/type Originally Posted By Smashy: There's a video about that on YouTube. What stock are you referring to? The Ruger OEM stock x39 with stanag compatibility or the Magpul AICS version? Have a link to the video or a better description? |
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Originally Posted By Steamedliver: What stock are you referring to? The Ruger OEM stock x39 with stanag compatibility or the Magpul AICS version? Have a link to the video or a better description? Originally Posted By Steamedliver: Originally Posted By 2Keylows: I remember seeing a mod done with the x39 versions to accept AR mags. If I remember correctly, it was as simple as swapping to the Ruger 223/556 stock with specific paddle mag release you could buy from Ruger. Not sure if it was this forum or another. Regardless, this has me thinking about that project again. Eta: I can't spell/type Originally Posted By Smashy: There's a video about that on YouTube. What stock are you referring to? The Ruger OEM stock x39 with stanag compatibility or the Magpul AICS version? Have a link to the video or a better description? @Steamedliver  7.62x39 Ruger American Ranch with AR15 Magazines  Ruger Ranch 7.62x39 AR Magazine Conversion Range Test |
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@Steamedliver Here’s the first video 7.62x39 Ruger American Ranch with AR15 Magazines |
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Originally Posted By PA452: Had been on the lookout for a CZ527 Suppressor-Ready in .223, but with the 527 line being discontinued it seems like availability has really dried up fast. The Ruger American Ranch offers pretty much everything I was looking for and a little more in terms of features. What's the overall view of quality and accuracy of these rifles? Thanks Attached File Attached File I have one in 7.62x39 and one in 450BM. They are fantastic rifles. The targets are at 100 meters and that's regular wolf 7.62x39. |
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This little guy followed me home today. RAR in 5.56 with a Vortex 4x12 scope. Attached File $700 OTD. Out of the way gun shop had 2 brand new ones in .300 BO and one of the bigger calibers. I asked if he had one in 5.56 and he dug this one out of his personal collection. Said it has around 50 rounds through it. |
| I picked up a Ruger American in 30-06 a few years ago when Wal-Mart was blowing out their guns. Got it for around $200 or so, but haven't ever shot it yet. No idea if they even make after-market Long Action stocks for this or if I'd be stuck using the OEM one. |
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Originally Posted By IceAuger: Why is that? Originally Posted By IceAuger: Originally Posted By Trumpet: Originally Posted By IceAuger: Anyone try a Sharps Bro's Heatseeker chassis with one of these? Pros/Cons? Can't use a cleaning rod To keep the bore axis low, the buffer tube/stock attachment point is very high. No room for a rod, you’re. relegated to bore snakes with the heat seeker |
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Originally Posted By Trumpet: To keep the bore axis low, the buffer tube/stock attachment point is very high. No room for a rod, you're. relegated to bore snakes with the heat seeker Originally Posted By Trumpet: Originally Posted By IceAuger: Originally Posted By Trumpet: Originally Posted By IceAuger: Anyone try a Sharps Bro's Heatseeker chassis with one of these? Pros/Cons? Can't use a cleaning rod To keep the bore axis low, the buffer tube/stock attachment point is very high. No room for a rod, you're. relegated to bore snakes with the heat seeker It probably depends on the type/size of stock used that might obstruct a cleaning rod as well. Either way, probably not a big deal and there are alternatives available. Folding stocks are an option as well. Thanks for the feedback. |
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Originally Posted By IceAuger: That's what I assumed you were getting at in your last post but wanted to make sure it wasn't some other oddity preventing the use of a rod that I was overlooking. It probably depends on the type/size of stock used that might obstruct a cleaning rod as well. Either way, probably not a big deal and there are alternatives available. Folding stocks are an option as well. Thanks for the feedback. Originally Posted By IceAuger: Originally Posted By Trumpet: Originally Posted By IceAuger: Originally Posted By Trumpet: Originally Posted By IceAuger: Anyone try a Sharps Bro's Heatseeker chassis with one of these? Pros/Cons? Can't use a cleaning rod To keep the bore axis low, the buffer tube/stock attachment point is very high. No room for a rod, you're. relegated to bore snakes with the heat seeker It probably depends on the type/size of stock used that might obstruct a cleaning rod as well. Either way, probably not a big deal and there are alternatives available. Folding stocks are an option as well. Thanks for the feedback. You know, I stand corrected. My apologies. I went and took a look and the heatseeker made for the Ruger is different. I only was familiar with the Heatseeker for the Howa Mini (which I don't even see listed on their website anymore). Here's the Howa version. You can see that a cleaning rod is a no-go...  Looking at it though it doesn't look like the heatseeker is for the American Ranch, just the American and AICS type mags. I gotta say though, that's a nice looking chassis. Some of their Thompon Contender stuff looks pretty cool too. |
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Ah, I see what you're saying with the Howa. We're on the same page now. Thanks. Sharps put out a video a while back with a .223 in their Heatseeker chassis because people were asking if it would fit. He said it was a .223 American, but it looked like the 5.56 Ranch with the 16" barrel (or do they have a .223 with the 16" barrel??). He did state that some slight modifications to the mags are recommended to help with cleaner feeding. He didn't say if you'd have to do the same to the Magpul AICS mags (he was using Accurate-Mags) but assumed that you would. |
| You better do your research before you go down the Ruger American 223 AICS road as a lot of them don't work. Even Magpul has a warning that their mag won't work. The other mag manufacturers won't guarantee them. If you want an American 223 stick with AR mags. |
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Originally Posted By Trumpet: They make a predator with 22" barrel on the "regular" American action that takes AR mags. I'm imagining it you dropped it in a Heatseeker you could use any .223 AICS mags...maybe? Maybe the American you saw with the 16" barrel was the one in 350 Legend? Here is a screenshot. The top is the Predator you mentioned with the 22" barrel, but the bottom one in their chassis is a 16" (the Heatseeker handguard is 14"), so I wonder if he just wasn't clear and meant that the 16" Ranch in 5.56 was the one they used even though he kept mentioning .223. The only difference between the two is the Ranch models have shorter barrels, I think... I'm not sure why I went down this rabbit hole, but here I am and now I need to figure this out because I'm already totaling how much this could cost me before I'm done. Damn you, ARFCOM. Ha.  jsharps showing and shooting a .223 Ruger American built into our #Heatseeker chassis - and talking about magazine selection / modification for this type of build. Heatseeker was designed for the short action calibers .308 and 6.5 Creedmoor but Heatseeker is also compatible with Ruger's .223, 300 Blackout, 6.5 Grendel and 450 Bushmaster Ruger Americans: with a bit of work: 223/300 Blk requires minor mag modification. 6.5 Grendel works with a mag converter (from @primalrights) and 450 works in standard AI pattern short action mags (they just 'look' kinda short in them). |
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Originally Posted By narphenal: Accuracy? Insane. Ruger Americans are one of the most underrated rifles on the market. Swap out that flimsy ass stock for one of the many options. Throw a Timney in there. You will have an incredibly capable rifle. So, in other words just buy a better rifle like a Tikka or Bergara and save all of the money replacing crappy parts. |
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RAR .450 bushmaster 16" Bittersweet experience here, i do appreciate a bit of savings being passed on with these models. Good barrel, action is fine for the price of entry. OEM stock was over formed/warped to the extent that it was rubbing on the barrel. OEM magazines had molding lines on feed lip, hanging up feeding. Both issues solved with a bit of careful sandpaper work. Switching optics around, also in a position where the longest shots may come drastically under 100 yards for hunting. I am trying out a basic strikefire 2 and VMX3T optic theme, just worked out that way for not spending any more $ right now. It doesn't seem too bad, gonna give it a try |
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In for any info on someone 3D printing a mag body for a few extra rounds of capacity of 450... that fits just as the 3 round factory mag does. Thoughts are that they can possibly be made to work fine with stanag or AICS parts. 250/300 gr OAL, 450 follower, spring and floorplate... even if a bit of hand modification or fitting is needed. Id be in for a few |
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Originally Posted By Zebra120: I have owned three different iterations, and sold every single one. Cheap and clunky. They shoot OK, but just about any modern bolt gun shoots OK. There is nothing about them that something else doesn't do better. Who else makes a better bolt action 5.56 that uses AR mags? And don't post some chassis contraption with a MLOK hand guard the length of the barrel, a crap cheek weld, and a $1k+ price tag. |
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Originally Posted By Bassgasm: Who else makes a better bolt action 5.56 that uses AR mags? And don't post some chassis contraption with a MLOK hand guard the length of the barrel, a crap cheek weld, and a $1k+ price tag. Originally Posted By Bassgasm: Originally Posted By Zebra120: I have owned three different iterations, and sold every single one. Cheap and clunky. They shoot OK, but just about any modern bolt gun shoots OK. There is nothing about them that something else doesn't do better. Who else makes a better bolt action 5.56 that uses AR mags? And don't post some chassis contraption with a MLOK hand guard the length of the barrel, a crap cheek weld, and a $1k+ price tag. Nobody, because AR mags in a bolt gun are dumb. AICS pattern mags are a much better solution for .223 detachable mags. Why in the hell would I want a 30rd mag that will only handle 2.30 COAL when there are readily available mags that will easily swallow 2.55"? If I want to shoot AR mags, I will shoot an AR. If I am running a bolt gun, it better do something an AR can't. |
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I have two forends but I usually keep the full handguard mounted and use a saddle mount for the tripod instead of the full arca. But it's one bolt and I can pop the arca on... Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By AeroEngineer: I found one in stock. Paid a little more than I wanted, but probably a realistic retail price. Hopefully it arrives at my FFL next week. I found a 7.62x39 back in December the week before Christmas while nobody was looking, I guess. Is the action as smooth as my Bergara Premier? No. Is it a light and handy rifle that I can use a can on and easily mount optics right out of the box? Yep. I have mini 30 mags so I actually like that aspect. I see this rifle as one of the better all around values. I give it a lot of points for that. And I like the balance of it, which the glass and the can ruin slightly but it's still handy. Trigger is ok. No plans to change. Keeping it "stock." |
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Still in stock at Grab-a-Gun https://grabagun.com/ruger-american-ranch-7-62x39-fde-16.html |
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Originally Posted By ExecutiveMendicant: Good catch. I found a 7.62x39 back in December the week before Christmas while nobody was looking, I guess. Is the action as smooth as my Bergara Premier? No. Is it a light and handy rifle that I can use a can on and easily mount optics right out of the box? Yep. I have mini 30 mags so I actually like that aspect. I see this rifle as one of the better all around values. I give it a lot of points for that. And I like the balance of it, which the glass and the can ruin slightly but it's still handy. Trigger is ok. No plans to change. Keeping it "stock." Originally Posted By ExecutiveMendicant: Originally Posted By AeroEngineer: I found one in stock. Paid a little more than I wanted, but probably a realistic retail price. Hopefully it arrives at my FFL next week. I found a 7.62x39 back in December the week before Christmas while nobody was looking, I guess. Is the action as smooth as my Bergara Premier? No. Is it a light and handy rifle that I can use a can on and easily mount optics right out of the box? Yep. I have mini 30 mags so I actually like that aspect. I see this rifle as one of the better all around values. I give it a lot of points for that. And I like the balance of it, which the glass and the can ruin slightly but it's still handy. Trigger is ok. No plans to change. Keeping it "stock." I’m definitely not going to try and turn this rifle into something super fancy. I’m going to chestnut it, mount an optic and start shooting. I have a lot of 7.62x39, and a lot of reloads. Since I started buying up brass case 7.62x39 lately, I’m hoping this rifle can be used to shoot the factory loaded ammo, recover the brass in good condition. Then use the Ruger to shoot 1st and 2nd reload of the brass. At that point 3rd reload can go through my AK, which is not kind to brass and slings it into the next county. Probably the only mods/upgrades I’m considering are to eventually install an oversized bolt handle and buy the stock insert from Ruger to try AR mags. I currently have a bin full of 7.62x39 AR mags but zero Mini 30 mags. |
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Originally Posted By AeroEngineer: I’m definitely not going to try and turn this rifle into something super fancy. I’m going to chestnut it, mount an optic and start shooting. I have a lot of 7.62x39, and a lot of reloads. Since I started buying up brass case 7.62x39 lately, I’m hoping this rifle can be used to shoot the factory loaded ammo, recover the brass in good condition. Then use the Ruger to shoot 1st and 2nd reload of the brass. At that point 3rd reload can go through my AK, which is not kind to brass and slings it into the next county. Probably the only mods/upgrades I’m considering are to eventually install an oversized bolt handle and buy the stock insert from Ruger to try AR mags. I currently have a bin full of 7.62x39 AR mags but zero Mini 30 mags. When it comes to the bolt handle and knob check out Anarchy Outdoors, their bolt handle is perfect and they offer many different bolt knobs. Also consider the AD Arms billet cocking piece to replace the Ruger MIM cocking piece; plenty of reports of the Ruger piece breaking. Add the firing pin removal tool when you're ready to change out the bolt handle, it makes life simple. https://www.anarchyoutdoors.com/ Grabbed this image while I was polishing the bolt and doing the upgrades on my Ruger American 5.56; it ended up in an AR magazine compatible MDT LSS-XL chassis.   |
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Originally Posted By DarkStar: When it comes to the bolt handle and knob check out Anarchy Outdoors, their bolt handle is perfect and they offer many different bolt knobs. Also consider the AD Arms billet cocking piece to replace the Ruger MIM cocking piece; plenty of reports of the Ruger piece breaking. Add the firing pin removal tool when you're ready to change out the bolt handle, it makes life simple. https://www.anarchyoutdoors.com/ Grabbed this image while I was polishing the bolt and doing the upgrades on my Ruger American 5.56; it ended up in an AR magazine compatible MDT LSS-XL chassis. https://i.imgur.com/AiDhLXi.jpg https://i.imgur.com/niyVfz7.jpg Originally Posted By DarkStar: Originally Posted By AeroEngineer: I’m definitely not going to try and turn this rifle into something super fancy. I’m going to chestnut it, mount an optic and start shooting. I have a lot of 7.62x39, and a lot of reloads. Since I started buying up brass case 7.62x39 lately, I’m hoping this rifle can be used to shoot the factory loaded ammo, recover the brass in good condition. Then use the Ruger to shoot 1st and 2nd reload of the brass. At that point 3rd reload can go through my AK, which is not kind to brass and slings it into the next county. Probably the only mods/upgrades I’m considering are to eventually install an oversized bolt handle and buy the stock insert from Ruger to try AR mags. I currently have a bin full of 7.62x39 AR mags but zero Mini 30 mags. When it comes to the bolt handle and knob check out Anarchy Outdoors, their bolt handle is perfect and they offer many different bolt knobs. Also consider the AD Arms billet cocking piece to replace the Ruger MIM cocking piece; plenty of reports of the Ruger piece breaking. Add the firing pin removal tool when you're ready to change out the bolt handle, it makes life simple. https://www.anarchyoutdoors.com/ Grabbed this image while I was polishing the bolt and doing the upgrades on my Ruger American 5.56; it ended up in an AR magazine compatible MDT LSS-XL chassis. https://i.imgur.com/AiDhLXi.jpg https://i.imgur.com/niyVfz7.jpg I did all that stuff to both of my RAR's made a world of difference, made great, inexpensive rifles even better. |
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Originally Posted By DarkStar: When it comes to the bolt handle and knob check out Anarchy Outdoors, their bolt handle is perfect and they offer many different bolt knobs. Also consider the AD Arms billet cocking piece to replace the Ruger MIM cocking piece; plenty of reports of the Ruger piece breaking. Add the firing pin removal tool when you're ready to change out the bolt handle, it makes life simple. https://www.anarchyoutdoors.com/ Grabbed this image while I was polishing the bolt and doing the upgrades on my Ruger American 5.56; it ended up in an AR magazine compatible MDT LSS-XL chassis. https://i.imgur.com/AiDhLXi.jpg https://i.imgur.com/niyVfz7.jpg @DarkStar how did you polish the bolt? Dreadlocks, felt pad & compound? |
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Originally Posted By AeroEngineer: @DarkStar how did you polish the bolt? Dreadlocks, felt pad & compound? I like to do my Ruger bolts by hand using wet/dry sandpaper; use the firing pin removal tool to remove the firing pin assembly and the bolt handle. I start with 400 grit and continue using finer and finer grit; 1500 makes them glass smooth, then I do a final polish with Flitz; they turn out like mirrors and are butter smooth in the receiver. If you change out the cocking piece to the AD Arms billet piece the cocking action of the bolt is night and day improved as well. It doesn't take long to polish them by hand; a friend just bought a Predator in .308 and it had one of the roughest finished bolts I've run across in a Ruger; it took me about an hour to turn it in to a mirror. The Ruger American's are inexpensive and with a bit of work, they really are top performers. Disassembly is easy peasy:  Ruger American bolt handle! |