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Today 7:54:45 AM EDT
They come in and eventually swallow up everything around them. The amount of money they are throwing around is staggering. The farmers who would "never sell" are all slowly giving in simply because they cannot operate next to them. Everyone with a house within 2 miles has slowly given in and sold. As soon as they sell, the bulldozers come in. Once quiet roads are packed now. The prices in town on everything are going up simply because the businesses know that they can charge more to the thousands of temporary workers.

The data center project in my county is more valuable than ALL of the other property in the county ADDED TOGETHER. The county leaders of course gave them a tax abatement. It feels like a boom, but it's also created an uneasy feeling among almost  everyone. It's bizarre that we are doing all of this for some computers in concrete buildings.




Today 7:57:26 AM EDT
[#1]
You concern is noted, fellow firearms enthusiast.
"Positive rights" are neither.

Busy leaving people the F alone.
Today 7:58:38 AM EDT
[#2]
Really the problem is all the data they are stealing to run through those data centers. There is not enough text data in the world for this build out. They must be hacking cameras and what you do at work on computers.
Today 7:59:03 AM EDT
[#3]
Is this the Hubbard Data Center? Drove by yesterday and its size and scale are massive.
Today 7:59:23 AM EDT
[#4]
Welcome to El Paso, OP. Have a nice day.
Today 8:00:09 AM EDT
[#5]
I say build them.  Mitigate the sound and build the hell out of them.
Today 8:08:52 AM EDT
[#6]
What if we just change the name to undocumented data centers? Will that make it ok?
Today 8:11:51 AM EDT
[#7]
Uncle Ted was right.
Today 8:14:58 AM EDT
[#8]
Hah, you thought you were safe in rural America
Today 8:17:27 AM EDT
[#9]
Replace "data center" with "steel mill" or "car factory".  Does your position change?  We want those, right?
Today 8:18:27 AM EDT
[#10]
Originally Posted By milo-007:
They come in and eventually swallow up everything around them. The amount of money they are throwing around is staggering. The farmers who would "never sell" are all slowly giving in simply because they cannot operate next to them. Everyone with a house within 2 miles has slowly given in and sold. As soon as they sell, the bulldozers come in. Once quiet roads are packed now. The prices in town on everything are going up simply because the businesses know that they can charge more to the thousands of temporary workers.

The data center project in my county is more valuable than ALL of the other property in the county ADDED TOGETHER. The county leaders of course gave them a tax abatement. It feels like a boom, but it's also created an uneasy feeling among almost  everyone. It's bizarre that we are doing all of this for some computers in concrete buildings.




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How is it that a farm can't operate next to a data center?
Today 8:20:17 AM EDT
[#11]
But think of all the tens of jobs that they will bring in after the construction is done.

All you need to do is pay higher electricity rates and not be able to buy memory in return.
Today 8:20:33 AM EDT
[#12]
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How is it that a farm can't operate next to a data center?
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The beemz, man. The beemz.

Whoever double-crosses me and leaves me alive, he understands nothing about Tuco. Nothing!
Today 8:21:05 AM EDT
[#13]
People can just live in the mines, while the surface of the earth is covered in data centers.

OP this is a war for AI dominance, we can't let China win.

AI said you suffer from unnatural AI fear and should seek mental counseling.
Today 8:22:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By fssf158:
Replace "data center" with "steel mill" or "car factory".  Does your position change?  We want those, right?
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Those produce things rather than consume them.
Today 8:24:01 AM EDT
[#15]
OP’s advertisement brought to you by NeoLuddites, PAC
Not fly enough to be halal....
Today 8:25:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Eroic:
I say build them.  Mitigate the sound and build the hell out of them.
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Chudley The Maga Got Me In a Chokehold 🤣🤣
Today 8:25:55 AM EDT
[#17]
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Originally Posted By Ligore:
Really the problem is all the data they are stealing to run through those data centers. There is not enough text data in the world for this build out. They must be hacking cameras and what you do at work on computers.
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Today 8:26:52 AM EDT
[#18]
We went from "cows are killing the climate" to let's build data centers everywhere pretty quick.

I just hope our stolen data is stored next to each other.
I survive purely out of spite.
Today 8:31:19 AM EDT
[#19]
Build them in nfl/ mlb stadiums
Today 8:31:24 AM EDT
[#20]
Man, what a refreshing take. Most of GD is complaining about the economy and price of gas and OP changes things up to complain about how the local economy is booming too much for his liking.
Today 8:33:40 AM EDT
[#21]
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Originally Posted By Eroic:
I say build them.  Mitigate the sound and build the hell out of them.
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This. Bring em.
"Instead of making people sick, this virus had made people retarded."
-beardog30 4/22/20

Tennessee Squire

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Today 8:36:01 AM EDT
[#22]
Brought to you by the slowest discount chinese dog-eater propaganda department.
Mercy on the criminal is cruelty to the innocent.
Today 8:36:17 AM EDT
[#23]
But how will we ever get a dystopian future without the data centers?!?!?!

The only data center I worry and care about is the one at Camp Williams in Bluffdale, Utah.
Today 8:36:22 AM EDT
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Man, what a refreshing take. Most of GD is complaining about the economy and price of gas and OP changes things up to complain about how the local economy is booming too much for his liking.
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What’s local about the data center economy? It fills government tax coffers - unless, of course, they’ve given a tax break to attract it. What jobs did it create once it was built, security guards at the gate?

In the battle for AI dominance with China, the joke’s on all of us as to who ultimately wins - humans or Skynet.

“My data” … it’s not my Amazon shopping data. It’s the Flock ALPR correlated with my mobile device data. As someone above said, how else are we going to build dystopia?
Today 8:37:30 AM EDT
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Its to late for the boots, save your watch!
Today 8:38:43 AM EDT
[#26]
op is troll
Today 8:39:12 AM EDT
[#27]
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Originally Posted By Eroic:
I say build them.  Mitigate the sound and build the hell out of them.
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People are confusing data centers with mining centers.   Data centers are generally decently quiet.  Mining centers-  you are building sound walls and still causing chaos.
Its to late for the boots, save your watch!
Today 8:40:37 AM EDT
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Those produce things rather than consume them.
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Data centers produce ai slop for boomers to post to facebook though.
I survive purely out of spite.
Today 8:40:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By FreefallRet:
People can just live in the mines, while the surface of the earth is covered in data centers.

OP this is a war for AI dominance, we can't let China win.

AI said you suffer from unnatural AI fear and should seek mental counseling.
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and then the machines realize they have nothing in common with human beings and everything in common with each other
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
Today 8:41:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RR_Broccoli:
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Everything I don't like is Russian Chinese propaganda
When doubt returns, may it be
That faith shall permeate our scars
When we're seduced, then may it be
That we not deviate our cause
Today 8:41:52 AM EDT
[#31]
China thanks OP
Today 8:43:04 AM EDT
[#32]
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Originally Posted By SSG-69:


What’s local about the data center economy? It fills government tax coffers - unless, of course, they’ve given a tax break to attract it. What jobs did it create once it was built, security guards at the gate?
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Originally Posted By SSG-69:
Originally Posted By Stlrain0341:
Man, what a refreshing take. Most of GD is complaining about the economy and price of gas and OP changes things up to complain about how the local economy is booming too much for his liking.


What’s local about the data center economy? It fills government tax coffers - unless, of course, they’ve given a tax break to attract it. What jobs did it create once it was built, security guards at the gate?


They keep the local fire fighters employed from the VESDA systems falsely activating  on a weekly basis.
Today 8:43:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: rodical][Edited] [#33]
Sounds like back in the day and Walmart swallowing up the local businesses...
Today 8:50:18 AM EDT
[#34]
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Originally Posted By FreefallRet:
People can just live in the mines, while the surface of the earth is covered in data centers.

OP this is a war for AI dominance, we can't let China win.

AI said you suffer from unnatural AI fear and should seek mental counseling.
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No it isn't a war for AI dominance.

It a surveillance war on the American People.
Mach
Nobody is coming to save us.

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Today 8:51:22 AM EDT
[#35]
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Data centers produce ai slop for boomers to post to facebook though.
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And videos of weather chicks with huge cannons
Today 8:52:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stlrain0341:
Man, what a refreshing take. Most of GD is complaining about the economy and price of gas and OP changes things up to complain about how the local economy is booming too much for his liking.
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Welcome to the United States of Concrete.

Concrete will be the legacy when the windmills come down, obsolete data centers shut down to be replaced by new construction elsewhere, and the waste is buried and encapsulated.  That, and rolling electrical supply blackouts as the data centers consume the available supply.

Describing the size of data centers as the size of the power consumption instead of storage size or flops is interesting and amazingly and seemingly transparent.  And I'll bet it's under predicted.

An interesting map:

US Data Centers Map

Folks should have already been paying closer attention.

Also beware of the NVIDIA bubble of processor sales.  If the reported sales are true, the GPUs are piling in warehouses waiting and aging toward obsolescence for data center completions.

I advocate for building data centers in the New Frontier of the crumbling inner cities.  There's plenty of room without displacing the hood rats.

Keep your powder dry, and watch your back trail.
Today 8:57:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By fssf158:
Replace "data center" with "steel mill" or "car factory".  Does your position change?  We want those, right?
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exactly
Today 9:01:14 AM EDT
[#38]
I like American jobs and American dominance.

Given how people are upset about them being in their backyards, Elon's plan is making more sense.
Today 9:02:50 AM EDT
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Products come from steel mills.

The price attached to data is largely locked up in tech holdings. And they are larger terrorism targets.

The juice is not worth the squeeze in the local market for data centers, we should warm the ocean with them.
the kubota survived Javier is no longer an illegal alien...
Today 9:03:02 AM EDT
[#40]
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What % of a data center output is dedicated to;
-Curing cancer / genuinely improving life
-Cat videos and other slop generation
-Automating jobs especially entry level work from young and early career people
-Dynamic pricing and targeted advertising
-Social credit score/command economy

Are we just supposed to be for all of that to beat China after decades of saving energy to fight global warming.
Today 9:04:35 AM EDT
[#41]
I live in northern VA the data center capital of the US.

Fuck data centers.

They already cause electricity issues during the dead of summer as well as water.

And my fucking electricity bill and water bill has never been higher despite using almost the exact same amount of electricity / water year over year.

The only people I see cheering these obelisks of dystopia on are the motherfuckers who have their checks signed by the assholes building them.

Tax this dick. - Ben Franklin (probably)

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SGT Shawn M Farrell II - A Co 1-32 3BCT 10th Mountain, KIA Nejrab AFG 2014
Today 9:04:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By fssf158:
Replace "data center" with "steel mill" or "car factory".  Does your position change?  We want those, right?
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Disingenuous comparison.

Those wouldn't be built in rural or residential areas, they'd be built in industrial zoned areas.  Data Centers are going up next to neighborhoods, and next to schools.
Today 9:05:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stlrain0341:
Man, what a refreshing take. Most of GD is complaining about the economy and price of gas and OP changes things up to complain about how the local economy is booming too much for his liking.
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Temporary workers do not make an economy boom lol. I mean I guess the guys that sell Jarritos during the orange harvest in California do pretty well but who cares
Today 9:07:12 AM EDT
[#44]
OP should form an HOA so he can control what his neighbors choose to do with their property.

Today 9:08:40 AM EDT
[#45]
Well it seems China Psyop influence can work with some........
Today 9:08:56 AM EDT
[#46]
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Originally Posted By bm3:
China thanks OP
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+1
“A real man does not think of victory or defeat. He plunges recklessly towards an irrational death. By doing this, you will awaken from your dreams.” -- Tsunetomo Yamamoto
Today 9:10:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By esdunbar:

exactly
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The difference is that a steel mill or car plant will employ thousands and produce durable goods. Data centers will employ a couple dozen people at most.
World ain't what it seems, is it Gunny?
Today 9:11:04 AM EDT
[#48]
There’s a “we not want” political ad running here, typical anti everything starring what looks to be an older white lesbian woke woman. I can’t fucking watch it without picturing her at…. an anti-ice protest, bashing the holdout juror in the child killer trial, free Palestine rally, etc. It’s a Shapiro ad
Today 9:12:01 AM EDT
[#49]
Originally Posted By milo-007:
They come in and eventually swallow up everything around them. The amount of money they are throwing around is staggering. The farmers who would "never sell" are all slowly giving in simply because they cannot operate next to them. Everyone with a house within 2 miles has slowly given in and sold. As soon as they sell, the bulldozers come in. Once quiet roads are packed now. The prices in town on everything are going up simply because the businesses know that they can charge more to the thousands of temporary workers.

The data center project in my county is more valuable than ALL of the other property in the county ADDED TOGETHER. The county leaders of course gave them a tax abatement. It feels like a boom, but it's also created an uneasy feeling among almost  everyone. It's bizarre that we are doing all of this for some computers in concrete buildings.




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> joined 2011
> fewer than 150 posts
riiiiight....
Today 9:12:11 AM EDT
[#50]
I'm not super comfortable with the thought of a bunch of data centers around, but I don't understand how it would increase traffic like the OP is suggesting.

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