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11/9/2024 12:36:17 PM EDT
35 years of marriage, how should I respond?, the left is truly a mind virus ,sucks
11/9/2024 12:41:59 PM EDT
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What is the question? Your wife sent you this?

Exactly what rights were 'taken away'?
11/9/2024 12:45:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By onthebreeze:
What is the question? Your wife sent you this?

Exactly what rights were 'taken away'?
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Yes, we disagree on politics, to the point can’t even talk about it without severe disagreement
11/9/2024 1:07:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stutzmech:

Yes, we disagree on politics, to the point can’t even talk about it without severe disagreement
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That is tough, man. My wife has gotten more conservative as we've been together. There are plenty of things we disagree on, but civilly.

My advice would be limit/eliminate traditional media programming if possible. It is designed to make women miserable and unhappy. #1 is getting feelings out of the conversation.
11/9/2024 1:15:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By onthebreeze:

That is tough, man. My wife has gotten more conservative as we've been together. There are plenty of things we disagree on, but civilly.

My advice would be limit/eliminate traditional media programming if possible. It is designed to make women miserable and unhappy. #1 is getting feelings out of the conversation.
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Would agree, as the disagreement about politics has grown I’ve shut down any talk about it, tremendous pressure to go after husbands from social media now, have had several notes about my vote leading up to this election, she can’t leave it alone and just “agree to disagree “, think I know were this is heading, maybe just venting a little here
11/9/2024 1:21:06 PM EDT
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If my wife sent me that, or even hinted that she thought of me as a sexist/bigot/homophobe, I'd be out the door so fucking fast there'd be a sucking sound from the vacuum created.  That is 100% a dealbreaker.  Hard stop.

Married 32 years.  When we got engaged, she was a leftist.  She'd just graduated from Harvard, and was starting grad school at CU Boulder.  Rush's first book had just come out, and I bought a copy for my mom.  My fiancee at the time threatened to throw it out if she found it.  We disagreed, but not to the point that either of us thought less of the other for their political view.  There was mutual respect.  

32 years later, she's probably more conservative than me.

The person who wrote that tweet/statement/whatever in the OP is mentally defective, emotionally stunted, and incapable or rational thought or logic.  Ejection/divorce is the only option.

That's one of the benefits of TDS - it causes its sufferers to reveal their true selves for all the world to see.  Just like the idiots who drive with their hazards on in a rainstorm.  Thank you for identifying yourself to the rest of us so we can avoid you.
Posterity! You will never know, how much it cost the present Generation, to preserve your Freedom! I hope you will make a good Use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in Heaven, that I ever took half the Pains to preserve it.---John Adams
11/9/2024 1:25:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By intheburbs:
If my wife sent me that, or even hinted that she thought of me as a sexist/bigot/homophobe, I'd be out the door so fucking fast there'd be a sucking sound from the vacuum created.  That is 100% a dealbreaker.  Hard stop.

Married 32 years.  When we got engaged, she was a leftist.  She'd just graduated from Harvard, and was starting grad school at CU Boulder.  Rush's first book had just come out, and I bought a copy for my mom.  My fiancee at the time threatened to throw it out if she found it.  We disagreed, but not to the point that either of us thought less of the other for their political view.  There was mutual respect.  

32 years later, she's probably more conservative than me.

The person who wrote that tweet/statement/whatever in the OP is mentally defective, emotionally stunted, and incapable or rational thought or logic.  Ejection/divorce is the only option.

That's one of the benefits of TDS - it causes its sufferers to reveal their true selves for all the world to see.  Just like the idiots who drive with their hazards on in a rainstorm.  Thank you for identifying yourself to the rest of us so we can avoid you.
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Communication has broken down totally and just difficult to process this, 60s and both retired with kids and grandkids, still hoping it will work itself out at this point
11/9/2024 1:33:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stutzmech:

Communication has broken down totally and just difficult to process this, 60s and both retired with kids and grandkids, still hoping it will work itself out at this point
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The first step in communication (if it was me) would be trying to un-brainwash her about the sexist/homophobe/racist labels the media loves to throw around.  Try to deconstruct each of them as media constructs, nothing more.

Examples:
Did he say "grab them by the pussy?"  Yes, in a private, covertly recorded conversation.  Are any of us so absolutely pure that we'd have no problem exposing all of our private conversations to the public?
Did he say "There are good Nazis" in Charlottesville?  No, even Snopes now has finally admitted it.
Racist?  Show all the old photos of him hanging out with Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc back when he was just a NYC figure.  Black unemployment was at an ALL-TIME low during his first administration.
Is he an anti-semite?  That one makes me laugh.  His fucking daughter is married to a jew.  His daughter converted to Judaism.  Some of his fucking grandkids are jewish.
Not even sure where the homophobe term originated.  Unless being against trans women competing against women makes you a homophobe...
And women's rights?  Roe vs Wade was bad law.  It's a state-level issue.  The states can do whatever the fuck they want.  That's not a Trump thing.
Posterity! You will never know, how much it cost the present Generation, to preserve your Freedom! I hope you will make a good Use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in Heaven, that I ever took half the Pains to preserve it.---John Adams
11/9/2024 1:39:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By intheburbs:


The first step in communication (if it was me) would be trying to un-brainwash her about the sexist/homophobe/racist labels the media loves to throw around.  Try to deconstruct each of them as media constructs, nothing more.

Examples:
Did he say "grab them by the pussy?"  Yes, in a private, covertly recorded conversation.  Are any of us so absolutely pure that we'd have no problem exposing all of our private conversations to the public?
Did he say "There are good Nazis" in Charlottesville?  No, even Snopes now has finally admitted it.
Racist?  Show all the old photos of him hanging out with Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc back when he was just a NYC figure.  Black unemployment was at an ALL-TIME low during his first administration.
Is he an anti-semite?  That one makes me laugh.  His fucking daughter is married to a jew.  His daughter converted to Judaism.  Some of his fucking grandkids are jewish.
Not even sure where the homophobe term originated.  Unless being against trans women competing against women makes you a homophobe...
And women's rights?  Roe vs Wade was bad law.  It's a state-level issue.  The states can do whatever the fuck they want.  That's not a Trump thing.
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All good points, have to think about it, was looking for a woman’s viewpoint is why I posted here
11/9/2024 1:45:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By intheburbs:
If my wife sent me that, or even hinted that she thought of me as a sexist/bigot/homophobe, I'd be out the door so fucking fast there'd be a sucking sound from the vacuum created.  That is 100% a dealbreaker.  Hard stop.

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This. I got real lucky though when I married.

Few years back, wife was at work, she was in between cases in the OR, so she was at the nurses station checking the surgery schedule to see what was next, as per their usual all the female nurses were hanging out at the station, and having a hen-party where they talked shit about their husbands.

"And I told him WE are not spending money on that"
"I told him you are NOT bringing that into MY house"
"He's such an idiot, I can't even let him have a debit card on our joint account"

etc etc.

My wife started giggling, they asked her why. She said "I just find it amusing that you keep referring to them as 'men', because I have a real man myself, but if I talked to him like that I would find myself single again in a heartbeat".

I ROTFL'ed at that when she told me.

But it gets even weirder, those women started a rumor at work, that she was a victim in an abusive relationship based solely on that comment. Because to these harpies, marriage is NOT a partnership, but a case of one dominant and one subservient person, and if she wasn't the dominant one, then I must be and if a man is the dominant one then it's because he's abusive.

Do you see how deep and far the mind cancer has gone? And this election aftermath has really underscored that point, the leftist women simply cannot believe that men didn't vote for Harris because she's unqualified and stupid and has wrecked everything she's touched...oh no...it MUST be because all men are misogynists and that makes them evil.

I wonder what would happen and what bullshit rationale they would come up with if the Republicans fielded a woman candidate for POTUS? What would be their excuse for not voting for her? I mean she's a woman, so everybody should automatically vote for her because she's female right?

You should probably eject OP, and mods should move this into GD because it's really not about women shooters.
Smaug:"I laid low the warriors of old and their like is not in the world today". 1 dedicated marksman who held his ground and kept shooting:"Haha bow go twang!"
11/9/2024 1:49:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dragynn:


This. I got real lucky though when I married.

Few years back, wife was at work, she was in between cases in the OR, so she was at the nurses station checking the surgery schedule to see what was next, as per their usual all the female nurses were hanging out at the station, and having a hen-party where they talked shit about their husbands.

"And I told him WE are not spending money on that"
"I told him you are NOT bringing that into MY house"
"He's such an idiot, I can't even let him have a debit card on our joint account"

etc etc.

My wife started giggling, they asked her why. She said "I just find it amusing that you keep referring to them as 'men', because I have a real man myself, but if I talked to him like that I would find myself single again in a heartbeat".

I ROTFL'ed at that when she told me.

But it gets even weirder, those women started a rumor at work, that she was a victim in an abusive relationship based solely on that comment. Because to these harpies, marriage is NOT a partnership, but a case of one dominant and one subservient person, and if she wasn't the dominant one, then I must be and if a man is the dominant one then it's because he's abusive.

Do you see how deep and far the mind cancer has gone? And this election aftermath has really underscored that point, the leftist women simply cannot believe that men didn't vote for Harris because she's unqualified and stupid and has wrecked everything she's touched...oh no...it MUST be because all men are misogynists and that makes them evil.

I wonder what would happen and what bullshit rationale they would come up with if the Republicans fielded a woman candidate for POTUS? What would be their excuse for not voting for her? I mean she's a woman, so everybody should automatically vote for her because she's female right?

You should probably eject OP, and mods should move this into GD because it's really not about women shooters.
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Was hoping to avoid GD shenanigans, like I said I know we’re it’s heading, mods can trash this thread if not appropriate to this forum, was honestly just looking for opinions
11/9/2024 1:58:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stutzmech:

Was hoping to avoid GD shenanigans, like I said I know we’re it’s heading, mods can trash this thread if not appropriate to this forum, was honestly just looking for opinions
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Understood, saying a prayer for you brother, if you ever need to vent on somebody feel free to IM me.

It's just so crazy, yeah, Trump hates women so badly he let one be his campaign manager and just made her the first ever female Chief of Staff.
Smaug:"I laid low the warriors of old and their like is not in the world today". 1 dedicated marksman who held his ground and kept shooting:"Haha bow go twang!"
11/9/2024 2:05:25 PM EDT
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The three descriptions of Trump (homophobic, racist, hates women) are demonstrably wrong on their face.

It should really be easy to prove them wrong, lots of arguments offered already.

If she can't accept the fact that she's arguing from a false premise then you either live with it or eject.


Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case of the Greeks and Romans and must be that of every free state. -T Jefferson

https://everycitizenasoldier.blogspot.com/
11/9/2024 2:06:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dragynn:


Understood, saying a prayer for you brother, if you ever need to vent on somebody feel free to IM me.

It's just so crazy, yeah, Trump hates women so badly he let one be his campaign manager and just made her the first ever female Chief of Staff.
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TY
11/9/2024 2:10:46 PM EDT
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Sorry to see this. If your wife sent that to you she has no respect for you and it will only end one way, guess you’ll have to decide if it’s on your terms or hers…
11/9/2024 2:18:43 PM EDT
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Sorry mate, but sounds like a match made in Hell.  

2 Corinthians 6:14
King James Version
14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
11/9/2024 7:54:24 PM EDT
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Personally, I'd respond with, "Bye. Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you."
11/10/2024 11:34:08 AM EDT
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Slept on it, sticking with my principles, balls in her court, not my job to cater to others derangement, we all have to live in the bed we make and not going to stress on it.
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11/15/2024 6:36:39 PM EDT
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This isn't my (men's) forum area, but I have no issue with this thread being here.  "...Other Discussions"  is very general, so I see no issue.

I was literally thinking today, there should be  a Dear Abby section, where men can seek advice from women on the forum.  Women have a unique perspective and I'd bet most ARF women tolerate drama, so a no BS answer is what one  would expect.

To the OP, an earlier post suggested trying to break down the text and invalidate the  accusations.  Sounds like a plan, HOWEVER, it could also come off as mansplaining.   That's where a women's perspective might  help.

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