Pat Rogers has passed on (Page 6 of 7)
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I interacted with Pat only twice over the last 15 years and only through ARFCOM at that. May not be a big deal to anyone else but it was a big deal to me and that's what counts.
Around 15 years ago when I was stationed overseas I had posted about a jury-rigged sling set up that I came up with. Pat replied with his positive and helpful feedback/guidance and I was floored that he did. I replied back, thanking him and calling him, "Mr. Rogers", to which responded, "Mr. Rogers is my Dad, I'm Pat". Just the other week he had posted about a training facility not far from me and he answered right back when I asked for some info, again in the same helpful and unassuming manner that he did so many years ago. RIP Pat, Semper Fi .... Chris |
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Originally Posted By JIMBEAM:
<a href="http://s89.photobucket.com/user/jimbeam69/media/C1AC4140-7870-415C-B215-72D94A5AD717_zpsciawyoa7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k215/jimbeam69/C1AC4140-7870-415C-B215-72D94A5AD717_zpsciawyoa7.jpg</a> A in memory of Pat Rogers Dillo for charity would be cool.
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Went back and found the AAR that I wrote for his class in June 2012 Here is my tribute to the best class I have ever taken to date: I have heard about the quality training that Pat Rogers conducts and this course was no exception. This is the first AAR I have written on a training course, so here it goes: The training took place at the Boone County Sheriff’s Office in Lebanon, IN. Ken Campbell was a first class host and made every effort to extend the community’s hospitality. The range in which training was conducted was clean and well maintained. It may look small, but it more than accommodated our class of 23 students. Day 1: Day 1 began with a briefing and overview of what the training would entail. We spent time stressing safety and logistical issues with having a live fire training course. Pat, and his partner Mike, AKA Mr. Grumpy, were very thorough to make sure that all safety issues were carefully emphasized. We made roundhouse introductions of each other. Pat then followed up with verbal lecture to discuss the weapon system, shooting styles, why we train, different training philosophies, and what he expected out of the students. We discussed different weapon platforms, configurations, gear, and PUSH and PULL. Then out to the range and divided up into two relays. The first thing done (as was done each day) was to confirm zero on the rifles from 50 yards in a prone position. After this was completed, Pat and Mike moved on to teach positional shooting, reloading techniques, and the importance of making the most out of every training opportunity. Every time we stepping onto the line and we were told to make ready, we were expected to not just load the weapons, but to also perform a tactical re-load of our PDW. NEVER let an opportunity for training go to waste. The rest of the day was spent training with positional shooting, reloading, and shooting drills to include: Failure Drill – two to the body, one to the brain. NSR – 7 round dump center mass Controlled Pairs Hammer Pairs Tactical Reloads Speed Reloads The importance of ammo management At the end of the day we practiced the Modified Navy Qualification (MNQ) which consisted of five rounds standing: speed reload: five rounds kneeling: speed reload: five rounds prone: all within 25 seconds. We did this on the first day from the 25 yard line and did it three times. Twice it was shot as a group and the third time was done individually to allow for individual instruction. Day 2: Day 2 began with a review from the previous day and another 50 yard zero confirmation. Most of Day 2 was spent training in the same way as Day 1, but spent building on the day before. We covered pistol work by doing some transitional shooting once the long gun ran dry. (I had my department issued Beretta 92D with me – Pat is not a fan). We covered what to do when faced with multiple adversaries and ran drills on covering two targets. If I remember correctly, we then practiced turning with the carbine when faced with an adversary to the left or right. We then again practiced the MNQ, this time from the 35 yard line in the same manner as before. At the end of the day, we discussed malfunction drills and how to resolve them. As we were running low on daylight, actually practicing the malfunction drills started out Day 3. Day 3 After confirming zero, Pat and Mike worked on covering malfunction drills and we spent time on working through the different series of drills to get the rifle back in operating order. Following malfunction drills, we covered shooting on the move, running with the carbine, and dynamic turning and shooting on the move. This got us to the near end of the class where we did two different qualifications for score: the MNQ from the 50 yard line and the MEU-SOC qualification (Marine Expeditionary Unit-Special Operation Capable). The MEU-SOC qualification incorporated marksmanship from distance, stress in that one must run and shoot on the move, and then engaging multiple targets. I was pleased with the class. I learned a lot about what I have been doing vs. what I should be doing when I shoot. The bottom line is that I don’t train enough. I miss little windows of opportunity to train that I should be taking more advantage of. Little things like doing a tac-reload of my pistol every time I go to holster it. As an officer, I should be doing these kind of things every day. I’ve learned that it is not how many rounds you throw down range, it’s the quality of the rounds you throw. I can shoot a ragged hole all day long from the range table, but it is amazing how the groups open up when standing free and transitioning to another position, working on the move, doing a reload while going from standing to kneeling, turning with the rifle, etc… I also learned that bad training equals bad results. I had a minor f$#k up on the last day and earned my "Moose Cock” patch. I didn’t really have a good answer for the mistake I made other than previous training. Basically, I was running low on ammo, and knew it; therefore, I envisioned myself finishing the drill with my PDW to achieve the required number of hits. Turns out, when Pat called for the shots, I pulled the trigger once, dumped the magazine, and whipped out my pistol to finish the drill. Why did I waste the time to dump the magazine? Why didn’t I just finish the drill after running dry? Why did I dump the magazine at all and go to the pistol?Turns out, I had enough rounds in my carbine to finish the drill. I psyched myself out and I unconsciously told myself to transition before the drill when I didn’t need too. My brain ended up confusing itself into a real fuck up and combining a speed reload and a transition drill at the same time.MOOSE COCK! My thanks to Pat Rogers and Mike, AKA Mr. Grumpy. Learning has occurred. 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I never met him but his videos sure gave off the impression of a guy who was 100% squared away and with a great sense of humor. I was hoping to get into one of his training classes this summer.
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Originally Posted By magnum_99:
I'll always remember his Launch a Democrat line. R.I.P. "I made Louis think I had to go launch a Democrat..."
That guy lived a full life x3. If you look at what he did just in his Marine Corps career, there is a whole chapter there that could fill books, that never will. My favorite term from him is Bushampster. The guy was hilarious. |
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BCM Remembers Pat Rogers
About Pat Rogers BCM Remembers Pat Rogers As many of you have heard Marine Veteran and former NYPD Detective Pat Rogers passed away last night from natural causes. His name is well known in Tactical Training circles where he continued to serve for several decades. BCM owner Paul Buffoni shared this touching tribute to his friend Pat. He will be missed. May he rest in peace. It is with the heaviest of hearts that I announce the passing of my Brother and my friend Pat Rogers. Pat embodied the warrior spirit. And like all great warriors he had a big heart and it was full of love. Love for his country, love for his Brothers, and love for his family and friends. We are definitely diminished and I will miss him greatly. I will miss his energy. Pat would bring energy to every room he walked in with his magnetic personality. Folks would just gravitate toward him. They would come to hear a colorful story told in a way only Pat could tell, or maybe to hear a lesson from his lifetime of experience in the USMC, NYPD, or any number of his other billets. I have lost track of how many times his enthusiasm and stories would keep everyone in stiches. I have lost track of how many lessons he has taught me. I will miss his passion. “Life is good.” Countless times he would say that to me. Whether we were at the range together in one of his classes, or on the phone when he was talking about some place Ellen and him visited together, or giving me an AAR of the last class he just finished teaching… he would close with “Life is good”. And he meant it. He made you feel better about your day just from hearing how much he enjoyed his. Pat loved life, every day of it. I will miss his friendship. Good times or bad times Pat would always be the one to reach out to you. Whether it was to celebrate with you or lend a helping hand, he would be there. If a man is known by the company he keeps it becomes easy to see why so many loved Pat. I have been so very fortunate to meet many of Pat’s good friends and honored to call them mine as well. You would be hard pressed to find a group of higher quality individuals with the same sense of integrity, loyalty, and love that Pat displayed. A testament to our friend Pat. It has been said that- Friends are the siblings God never gave us. I will miss my Brother. We were recently working on a project together and I needed an expanded bio. I am going to include it here. Semper Fidelis my Brother, Paul Buffoni Bravo Company Pat was born in Brooklyn NY in 1946. He has worked shining shoes; delivering newspapers; pumping gas; working on a ride in Coney Island; driving a taxi; a sport parachute instructor, a photographer, and for an airline company that serviced the Far East. He served in the active and reserve components as a United States Marine starting in 1963. He served in the former Republic of Vietnam with 3rd Marine Division. He was an 1811 Tank Crewman; 0311 Rifleman; 0369 Infantry Unit Leader; 8531 Primary Marksmanship Instructor; 8662 Parachutist; 5702 NBC Specialist; 5702 NBC Officer. He served for 5 years in the Foreign Material Acquisition Exploitation Unit, and finished as Chief Warrant Officer 2. He was a NYC Correction Officer; a NYC Police Officer, serving in Patrol; Street Narcotics Enforcement Unit; Anti-Crime; investigator in Manhattan Robbery Squad, Central Robbery Division. As a Sgt he served in Patrol; Anti-Crime; in the Chief of Detectives Office; as a supervisor in the Technical Assistance Response Unit, and as a Hostage Negotiator. He was decorated 54 times, to include the Medal of Valor. He worked as an IC with the Counter Terrorism Center of OGA. He was an SME evaluating the DOS Anti-Terrorist Assistance Program. He was a Rangemaster at Gunsite for 12 years. He been the principal at EAG since 1989. He was the 464th person in the US to accrue 1000 Free Fall Parachute Jumps (USPA Gold Wings #464), the 203rd to accrue over 2000 Free Fall Parachute Jumps (USPA Diamond Wings #203) and the 131st person in the US to accrue over 12 hours in freefall (USPA Gold Free Fall Badge # 131) He is an NRA High Master Rifle, and CMP Distinguished Rifleman. He learns something new every day.
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I bought Pat a membership a few months ago because it didn't feel right without him having one.
Now it feels empty without him. |
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Originally Posted By Forest:
Fucking 13ers ![]() Originally Posted By Forest:
Originally Posted By brich2929:
Originally Posted By Mediumrarechicken:
Who's that? Fucking 13ers ![]() I worked for the same department as him and never heard of him until I joined arfcom. |
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Originally Posted By Extorris:
I worked for the same department as him and never heard of him until I joined arfcom. Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By Forest:
Originally Posted By brich2929:
Originally Posted By Mediumrarechicken:
Who's that? Fucking 13ers ![]() I worked for the same department as him and never heard of him until I joined arfcom. Never heard of him until I started getting emails about Bravo Company sales....heard about his death from an email from them this morning |
Originally Posted By BigPony:
Too much of the arfgay in this thread...
Too much of the arfgay in this thread...
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He will be greatly missed by the entire shooting community. What a unique individual and asset this guy was. There will never be another Pat. |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Way back when ... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/AUSTINWFT/LT%20Post/MachiningMarauders.jpg S/F Prayers out to the Rogers' family. |
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Originally Posted By Extorris:
I worked for the same department as him and never heard of him until I joined arfcom. i know it seems hard to believe but Pat was actually low key considering his list of accomplishments. to witch i would be proud of just 1. a true hero! |
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From his Facebook page....
Dear Friends, Thank you for the overwhelming display of love and support these past few days. Your heartfelt tributes and shared memories during this time of sorrow has done so much to lessen the pain for all who loved Pat, friends and family, all across the country. That one man could have such an impact on so many lives is testament to the strength of his character and the power of his message. We witnessed a man doing what he was born to do. Everyone he touched can be thankful for that. There will be a viewing on Thursday, 12 May at the Miller Funeral Home located at 3200 Golansky Blvd, Woodbridge, VA from 1400-1600 and again 1900-2100. All other services are private. Please respect that. I am putting together a slide show for the viewing. I've pulled down dozens of awesome pics and some video, but I don't want to miss a thing! Please send any pictures you have of Pat to [email protected]. Pat's two favorite charities concerned Rottweilers and the Marine Corps Historical Foundation. There will be more, much more, later. But first it's going to be "push/pull!", meaning our priority is taking care of Ellen, and Pat. Let's all focus on that, and the rest we'll tackle later. |
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If you were in the circle of trust, you knew...right away...that you had a friend and mentor for life.
I count myself blessed to have called this man a friend, but if he saw us all tripping over our bottom lips, he'd tell us all, every one of us "go fuck ya self "...I missed him every day I wasn't standing next to him, so yeah, I'm gonna go on missing him... We executed the Boone County class last weekend as planned with Yeti, Billpete and Suzanne instructing...it was great to be a student again on the line where it all started for me with Pat waaaaaaay back when...and we Viking funeraled the shit out of him...my son's birthday keeps me from attending ceremonies this weekend in VA, but there is a decided list on the eastern seaboard today with the number of gunslingers there... I'll miss the call from the road in the middle of the day as he was scrolling through his contact list counting the miles... Remember what he taught you, who he brought you in with, and the indelible mark he left on the "community"...that's his legacy |
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Originally Posted By KalihiJack:
Never heard of him until I started getting emails about Bravo Company sales....heard about his death from an email from them this morning Originally Posted By KalihiJack:
Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By Forest:
Originally Posted By brich2929:
Originally Posted By Mediumrarechicken:
Who's that? Fucking 13ers ![]() I worked for the same department as him and never heard of him until I joined arfcom. Never heard of him until I started getting emails about Bravo Company sales....heard about his death from an email from them this morning The difference is you guys didn't come into a memorial thread about Pat and act like an idiot going "Who", instead of bothering to read a bit. I get not everybody is into the training scene; what I don't get are idiots that come into a thread like this and don't bother to read - before posting - if they don't know who the person is. |
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Originally Posted By JEHalloranIV:
If you were in the circle of trust, you knew...right away...that you had a friend and mentor for life. I count myself blessed to have called this man a friend, but if he saw us all tripping over our bottom lips, he tell us all, every one of us "go fuck ya self "...I missed him every day I wasn't standing next to him, so yeah, I'm gonna go on missing him... We executed the Boone County class last weekend as planned with Yeti, Billpete and Suzanne instructing...it was great to be a student again on the line where it all started for me with Pat waaaaaaay back when...and we Viking funeraled the shit out of him...my son's birthday keeps me from attending ceremonies this weekend in VA, but there is a decided list on the eastern seaboard today with the number of gunslingers there... I'll miss the call from the road in the middle of the day as he was scrolling through his contact list counting the miles... Remember what he taught you, who he brought you in with, and the indelible mark he left on the "community"...that's his legacy Well said sir....well said.... |
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Originally Posted By Harv24:
Well said sir....well said.... Originally Posted By Harv24:
Originally Posted By JEHalloranIV:
If you were in the circle of trust, you knew...right away...that you had a friend and mentor for life. I count myself blessed to have called this man a friend, but if he saw us all tripping over our bottom lips, he tell us all, every one of us "go fuck ya self "...I missed him every day I wasn't standing next to him, so yeah, I'm gonna go on missing him... We executed the Boone County class last weekend as planned with Yeti, Billpete and Suzanne instructing...it was great to be a student again on the line where it all started for me with Pat waaaaaaay back when...and we Viking funeraled the shit out of him...my son's birthday keeps me from attending ceremonies this weekend in VA, but there is a decided list on the eastern seaboard today with the number of gunslingers there... I'll miss the call from the road in the middle of the day as he was scrolling through his contact list counting the miles... Remember what he taught you, who he brought you in with, and the indelible mark he left on the "community"...that's his legacy Well said sir....well said.... Truly. |
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