OFFICIAL Flock Cameras Misused or Destroyed Thread (Page 4 of 24)
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Originally Posted By Xyster7212: Just a reminder for the people posting on social media in support of Flock: you're a sucker if you're doing it for free - these agencies are getting paid to do it: https://jasonhunyar.substack.com/p/flocks-secret-war-council Originally Posted By Xyster7212: Just a reminder for the people posting on social media in support of Flock: you're a sucker if you're doing it for free - these agencies are getting paid to do it: https://jasonhunyar.substack.com/p/flocks-secret-war-council As I would expect. Flock is going to formulate and fabricate every way they can to drown out the bad press. The $takes are too high. Just some snippet for the TLDR crowd. This is about a meeting held behind locked doors in Dunwoody, population of 51,683. Flock's Secret War Council How Flock Safety Assembled An 8-Figure Crisis Communications Team Inside Dunwoody City Hall to "Drive Activations", and Why I Filed A Formal Ethics Complaint About It Today On February 12, 2026, while I was filing open records requests and presenting documented evidence of security failures and unauthorized camera sharing to the City Council, Flock Safety was holding a meeting behind closed doors inside Dunwoody City Hall. The attendees included the president of a $100 million Republican crisis communications firm that "[brings] a unique network of public relations operatives to drive activations" of their "network of over 1,000 local operatives", the COO of a brand-new political influence operation that "[builds] and [manages] hyperlocal campaigns that blend community outreach, grassroots advocacy, and media engagement", and a former Biden White House communications director, whose company "[crafts] a proactive narrative and [implements] it through targeted outlets." Dunwoody was represented, at least on paper, by a single police lieutenant. I know this because the calendar invite ended up in a city government inbox, and I got it through the Georgia Open Records Act. Here are some private firms in attendance that met with the Dunwoody police. The city council will not answer the person who assembled the highlighted The confirmed attendees were: From Flock Safety:
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Originally Posted By Cobalt135: As I would expect. Flock is going to formulate and fabricate every way they can to drown out the bad press. The $takes are too high. Just some snippet for the TLDR crowd. This is about a meeting held behind locked doors in Dunwoody, population of 51,683. For the people who don't live in GA, Dunwoody is a relatively high-income, low crime city on the northside perimeter of Atlanta. According to Wikipedia and the city's own public works dept, the city includes 13.2 square miles of land, 310 miles of paved road, and 62 traffic lights. By recent estimates, they have just over 100 Flock cameras: something like 80 ALPRs and 25 PTZ cams. They also use Flock drones and Raven gunshot detectors, but numbers of those aren't publicly known. That also doesn't include the recently-announced expansion of Flock's services in the city. For whatever reason, those little suburban cities along the northside perimeter absolutely love Flock. |
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Originally Posted By H8train375: I used Flock a good amount today in reference to two of my active investigations. It was pretty helpful in confirming my timelines. I hope I’m triggering everyone.  Thanks for telling us all how you feel about the bill of rights. Remember kids: a cop that will ignore the 4th amendment will also ignore the 2nd. Especially if Lisa needs braces. |
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Originally Posted By H8train375: I used Flock a good amount today in reference to two of my active investigations. It was pretty helpful in confirming my timelines. I hope I’m triggering everyone. Just because you weren't the problem doesn't mean there isn't a problem. Flock still needs to be stopped. |
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Originally Posted By JellyBelly: I still think the coolest way would be to 3d print a lockable box to enclose the cameras. Just having the software out in the universe being shared could be a pretty strong statement to the tyrants who like those cameras. A lockable box, you say? I know who to call.  Al Gore Lock Box Cumpilation |
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Originally Posted By Hill_monkey: https://i.imgur.com/Lqh9d4i.jpg I hear DDR5 RAM sticks go for a pretty penny too, these days. I believe there are 2x16GB DDR5 in each camera. Or, so I’ve heard. |
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Originally Posted By Xyster7212: Look what just popped up in my office.  https://i.ibb.co/NdXSM04M/20260709-105134.jpg What kind of mischief could one get up to with several replica Flock ALPRs, complete with dummy wires and magnetic swivel mounts? 🤔 
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Originally Posted By W202fan90: Originally Posted By Xyster7212: Look what just popped up in my office. https://i.ibb.co/NdXSM04M/20260709-105134.jpg What kind of mischief could one get up to with several replica Flock ALPRs, complete with dummy wires and magnetic swivel mounts? 🤔 https://media3.giphy.com/media/0uBL9HqP48Nu1DNr7r/200.webp?cid=8dc8958cfag1g5ccwduv5pby2uk9h1u4sld1pikbpcvnfqys&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200.webp&ct=g Owning a 3d printer (or two) makes the jump from dumb idea to physical device waaayyy too easy. My first idea is a social media photographic art project entitled "ALPRs in Awkward Places" |
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The Institute for Justice has several ALPR related articles https://ij.org/?s=ALPR#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=ALPR&gsc.page=1 Do not assume ALPRs are perfect, they're not, not at all. How would you like to get pulled over and have a police officer pull a gun on you because an ALPR flagged you as a threat? https://ij.org/dozens-of-innocent-motorists-have-been-pulled-over-detained-at-gunpoint-or-jailed-due-to-ai-license-plate-camera-errors/ Dozens of Innocent Motorists Have Been Pulled Over, Detained at Gunpoint, or Jailed Due to AI License Plate Camera Errors As the number of automated license plate readers (ALPRs) has skyrocketed nationwide, erroneous stops, detainments and arrests are becoming increasingly common. In February of this year, a Flock camera in Sherwood, Arkansas, misread the license plate of an SUV, leading officers to detain an innocent couple at gunpoint while their six-week-old baby sat alone in a car seat in the back of the vehicle. “Those cameras are placed everywhere, and they hit license plates,” one of the officers explained as they uncuffed the couple after realizing their error several minutes later. “I’m not gonna say they’re completely perfect, because, you know, that’s modern technology.” As the number of automated license plate readers (ALPRs) has skyrocketed nationwide, errors like this one are becoming increasingly common. An Institute for Justice (IJ) review of media reports and court records finds there have been at least 24 such cases since 2018, with the majority of those happening since 2023. What happens when innocent people are stopped In recent months, stories have proliferated about innocent motorists enduring the indignity of being pulled over repeatedly until police departments figure out the root cause of the ALPR errors. But those drivers have it relatively easy: in nearly two-thirds of the cases IJ analyzed, officers did not realize their error until after they had drawn and pointed their guns at innocent people. “Every one of those stops is a high-risk encounter where a wrong move, a misunderstanding, or a moment of fear can turn deadly,” said Michael Soyfer, an IJ attorney who is representing residents of San Jose and Norfolk in lawsuits challenging their cities’ ALPR surveillance networks. “No one should have to prove their innocence on the side of the road because a camera couldn’t tell a zero from an O.” The recent uptick in ALPR errors owes largely to Flock Safety, which in the past several years has become the leading ALPR provider in the market. The company claims its cameras accurately capture 93 out of every 100 license plates that pass by them. It all adds up to more than 20 billion individual license plate readings each month, according to Flock’s marketing materials. Even taking Flock’s claims at face value, a 93% accuracy rate implies well over one billion inaccurate readings per month, which is especially concerning given that the vast majority of plates scanned are not relevant to an investigation. Those machine errors happen for a variety of reasons. Minor obstructions like dirt or license plate holders can sometimes throw off the devices’ character recognition, for instance. And the machines often have trouble distinguishing between visually similar characters, like 0 and O, or 2 and 7. How human errors contribute But those machine errors account for about one-third of the mistakes in the cases IJ identified. The rest involved human error, with officers entering wrong information into the system or misinterpreting what the ALPR data says. Last year in San Diego, for instance, officers were searching for a red Alfa Romeo connected to an attempted carjacking. The officers didn’t have a plate and were instead relying on Flock’s “vehicle signature” technology, which captures detailed characteristics of individual cars like make, model, and color. The Flock system gave them a positive hit on a superficially matching car—but it was a totally different red Alfa Romeo, located five miles away from the crime at the time it occurred. Officers nevertheless arrested all three of the car’s occupants. One passenger spent nearly a month behind bars during the holidays before officers realized their error and set him free. In other cases, officers have entered multiple variations of the same license plate into the system, in part to account for ALPR character recognition errors. “The Constitution requires real suspicion before the government can seize someone at gunpoint, and a computer hit that no one bothered to confirm doesn’t come close,” Soyfer said. The list below includes only cases involving stationary ALPRs like Flock’s. Cases of mistaken identity involving vehicle-based ALPRs, traffic cameras, or toll cameras are not included. The review builds on previous efforts to tally ALPR errors, including those by CBS News and the Electronic Frontier Foundation. These 24 cases are most likely an undercount, perhaps by a significant margin. There is no comprehensive database of ALPR errors, and IJ has identified just one jurisdiction that publishes regular reports of such errors: Oak Park, Illinois. Those show that, in a typical reporting period, one-third or more of the traffic stops prompted by a Flock alert resulted in the drivers being released due to data problems. “There is no evidence whatsoever that Flock Safety ALPRs have played a meaningful role in any Oak Park crime investigation since their installation in 2022,” the oversight board publishing those reports concluded in 2025. Oak Park ended its contract with Flock in August of that year. List of known cases -- Human Error Apr. 2026 Cherry Hills, CO A Colorado driver was repeatedly pulled over after officers mistakenly put his license plate number on a Flock hotlist. Camera: Flock https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/rime-flock-cam-pulled-over/73-e3f65018-32a5-4bb0-a4ac-26fb24dc9a15 -- Human Error Apr. 2026 Volusia County, FL Based on a Flock capture, officers mistook an innocent driver’s car for one that was at the scene of a deadly accident. The driver was jailed for 13 days. Camera: Flock https://www.wesh.com/article/woman-wrongfully-arrested-in-deadly-i-4-crash-speaks-out-after-charges-dropped/71393304 -- Machine Error Feb. 2026 Sherwood, AR A Flock camera misread a digit on an innocent couple’s vehicle, prompting officers to pull them over and order them out of the car at gunpoint. Camera: Flock https://katv.com/news/local/sherwood-stop-sparked-after-flock-camera-misread-plate-by-one-letter-as-stolen-katv-news-share-inform-public-community-safety -- Human Error Nov. 2025 San Diego, CA Based on a Flock capture, officers mistook an innocent driver’s car for one that was at the scene of an attempted carjacking. The driver was jailed for nearly one month. Camera: Flock https://timesofsandiego.com/crime/2026/06/07/a-flock-license-plate-reader-linked-a-san-diego-man-to-a-violent-crime-he-was-five-miles-away/ -- See the linked article above for a complete list of 24. How long until an innocent person is shot and killed over a Flocking error? |
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The Plate Privacy Project is an Institute for Justice initiative to fight against ALPRs https://plateprivacy.com/ There's a lot of great info on the site. |
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Originally Posted By spmx7777: The Plate Privacy Project is an Institute for Justice initiative to fight against ALPRs https://plateprivacy.com/ There's a lot of great info on the site. So, we like SJW’s, now?
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There are two Flocking cameras pointing at Caliber Gun Range 3059 Washington St, Waukegan, IL 60085 https://maps.deflock.org/?lat=42.3591&lng=-87.8771&zoom=16.92 I'm absolutely certain those would never be misused by IL law enforcement. Uh huh. |
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Originally Posted By W202fan90: So, we like SJW’s, now? Originally Posted By W202fan90: Originally Posted By spmx7777: The Plate Privacy Project is an Institute for Justice initiative to fight against ALPRs https://plateprivacy.com/ There's a lot of great info on the site. So, we like SJW’s, now? Got me I like IJ a lot and donate to them at least once a year. They fight for constitutional rights, property rights, protection against all sorts of government nonsense. https://ij.org/about-us/ |
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Originally Posted By H8train375: I used Flock a good amount today in reference to two of my active investigations. It was pretty helpful in confirming my timelines. I hope I'm triggering everyone. Originally Posted By H8train375: I used Flock a good amount today in reference to two of my active investigations. It was pretty helpful in confirming my timelines. I hope I'm triggering everyone. Florida huh. Hopefully not a similar case to the one below even though the are becoming increasingly common. This dude was doing some "investigations" as well. Florida, Jul 6, 2026 Footage Shows Cop Stalking Woman He Met on a TV Set After Surveilling Her With a License Plate Reader A police officer speeds 70 MPH down a two-lane highway running over a bridge in the Florida Keys. He passes a dump truck in a no-passing zone, then immediately does it again, crossing over a double-yellow line to pass another truck. He passes a third vehicle, nearly causing a head-on collision with a white pickup truck that veers away from him in the oncoming traffic. The cop keeps driving, and sees the SUV he's been in pursuit of. He flicks his sirens and lights on and pulls it over. The cop, Lamar Roman, wasn't trying to pull over a suspected criminal. He was tracking and chasing a woman that he met and harassed on the set of the AppleTV+ show Bad Monkey, which he had worked a security detail shift on a few weeks prior to pulling her over. https://www.404media.co/footage-shows-cop-stalking-woman-he-met-on-a-tv-set-after-surveilling-her-with-a-license-plate-reader/ |
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Originally Posted By spmx7777: Got me I like IJ a lot and donate to them at least once a year. They fight for constitutional rights, property rights, protection against all sorts of government nonsense. https://ij.org/about-us/  
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Originally Posted By spmx7777: There are two Flocking cameras pointing at Caliber Gun Range 3059 Washington St, Waukegan, IL 60085 https://maps.deflock.org/?lat=42.3591&lng=-87.8771&zoom=16.92 I'm absolutely certain those would never be misused by IL law enforcement. Uh huh. And law enforcement doesn't care because they know it'll never apply to them. They'll always have their own separate ranges and set of rules. |
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Originally Posted By W202fan90: This is a bit different, as HD is a private business. Originally Posted By W202fan90: Originally Posted By Nickers: There are 5 of these cameras in the Home Depot parking lot in the larger town near me. This is a bit different, as HD is a private business. A local school district in my area pays for the cameras that are placed on 2 public roads near where the actual private property school entrances are located. Local PD can access the data..... I will have to go back to look at some township meeting minutes to verify. Buy I think the chief was going to ask Rural King if they wanted to pay to have some installed. He likely gets the department access. Or like almost every private Flock install it seems they are just open to national search permissions. |
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Originally Posted By Cobalt135: An argument could be that HD and Lowes gives open access to any LE agency that searches. Which is the most likely case. A local school district in my area pays for the cameras that are placed on 2 public roads near where the actual private property school entrances are located. Local PD can access the data..... I will have to go back to look at some township meeting minutes to verify. Buy I think the chief was going to ask Rural King if they wanted to pay to have some installed. He likely gets the department access. Or like almost every private system it seems they are just open to national search permissions. To play devil’s avocado, here: If HD, a private business, chooses to share the data from their privately owned FLOCK cameras with the local PD, then that is their perogative, right? Maybe up until the recent SCOTUS decision, that is. Local PD isn’t strong arming them into sharing the data, right? |
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Originally Posted By W202fan90: To play devil's avocado, here: If HD, a private business, chooses to share the data from their privately owned FLOCK cameras with the local PD, then that is their perogative, right? Maybe up until the recent SCOTUS decision, that is. Local PD isn't strong arming them into sharing the data, right? |
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Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot: Unless Flock is a DOJ proxy Attached File |
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Originally Posted By W202fan90: To play devil's avocado, here: If HD, a private business, chooses to share the data from their privately owned FLOCK cameras with the local PD, then that is their perogative, right? Maybe up until the recent SCOTUS decision, that is. Local PD isn't strong arming them into sharing the data, right? And, in in a more likely scenario, Officer now knows that his exes new boyfriend not only went down public road A, but he stopped in HD as well. |
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Originally Posted By Xyster7212: For the people who don't live in GA, Dunwoody is a relatively high-income, low crime city on the northside perimeter of Atlanta. According to Wikipedia and the city's own public works dept, the city includes 13.2 square miles of land, 310 miles of paved road, and 62 traffic lights. By recent estimates, they have just over 100 Flock cameras: something like 80 ALPRs and 25 PTZ cams. They also use Flock drones and Raven gunshot detectors, but numbers of those aren't publicly known. That also doesn't include the recently-announced expansion of Flock's services in the city. For whatever reason, those little suburban cities along the northside perimeter absolutely love Flock. Originally Posted By Xyster7212: Originally Posted By Cobalt135: As I would expect. Flock is going to formulate and fabricate every way they can to drown out the bad press. The $takes are too high. Just some snippet for the TLDR crowd. This is about a meeting held behind locked doors in Dunwoody, population of 51,683. For the people who don't live in GA, Dunwoody is a relatively high-income, low crime city on the northside perimeter of Atlanta. According to Wikipedia and the city's own public works dept, the city includes 13.2 square miles of land, 310 miles of paved road, and 62 traffic lights. By recent estimates, they have just over 100 Flock cameras: something like 80 ALPRs and 25 PTZ cams. They also use Flock drones and Raven gunshot detectors, but numbers of those aren't publicly known. That also doesn't include the recently-announced expansion of Flock's services in the city. For whatever reason, those little suburban cities along the northside perimeter absolutely love Flock. Scratch that - according to Dunwoody's transparency portal, they now have 435 Flock cameras of all types. 435 cameras for 13.2 square miles and 51k people.  https://transparency.flocksafety.com/dunwoody-ga-pd |
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Originally Posted By JellyBelly: Just because you weren't the problem doesn't mean there isn't a problem. Flock still needs to be stopped. Originally Posted By JellyBelly: Originally Posted By H8train375: I used Flock a good amount today in reference to two of my active investigations. It was pretty helpful in confirming my timelines. I hope I’m triggering everyone. Just because you weren't the problem doesn't mean there isn't a problem. Flock still needs to be stopped. Oh he's as much as the problem as any of them. He's financially enabling this shitty company and their surveillance state. Same as how a guy going to a rub-and-tug is enabling trafficking by increasing the demand. |
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Originally Posted By Nickers: There are 5 of these cameras in the Home Depot parking lot in the larger town near me. There's two that cover the entrance drive into my local Lowes. Poking around on DeFlock, I noticed a lot of Lowes have cameras that cover anyone driving into their parking lots. |
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Originally Posted By Federov: There's two that cover the entrance drive into my local Lowes. Poking around on DeFlock, I noticed a lot of Lowes have cameras that cover anyone driving into their parking lots. Originally Posted By Federov: Originally Posted By Nickers: There are 5 of these cameras in the Home Depot parking lot in the larger town near me. There's two that cover the entrance drive into my local Lowes. Poking around on DeFlock, I noticed a lot of Lowes have cameras that cover anyone driving into their parking lots. It seems like all Lowe's are getting them, HD is late to the game but joining in too. I'm sure the government has no hidden ties to flock; definitely no ties to lifelog, I mean facebook either. |
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This is the perhaps the best thing I've ever seen reported: Internal affairs detective charged with misconduct while investigating Flock system misuse |
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Originally Posted By Cobalt135: An argument could be that HD and Lowes gives open access to any LE agency that searches. Which is the most likely case. A local school district in my area pays for the cameras that are placed on 2 public roads near where the actual private property school entrances are located. Local PD can access the data..... I will have to go back to look at some township meeting minutes to verify. Buy I think the chief was going to ask Rural King if they wanted to pay to have some installed. He likely gets the department access. Or like almost every private Flock install it seems they are just open to national search permissions. Right there with cops asking for 24/7 access to private Ring doorbell cameras. |
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Originally Posted By Xyster7212: Scratch that - according to Dunwoody's transparency portal, they now have 435 Flock cameras of all types. 435 cameras for 13.2 square miles and 51k people. https://transparency.flocksafety.com/dunwoody-ga-pd Originally Posted By Xyster7212: Originally Posted By Xyster7212: Originally Posted By Cobalt135: As I would expect. Flock is going to formulate and fabricate every way they can to drown out the bad press. The $takes are too high. Just some snippet for the TLDR crowd. This is about a meeting held behind locked doors in Dunwoody, population of 51,683. For the people who don't live in GA, Dunwoody is a relatively high-income, low crime city on the northside perimeter of Atlanta. According to Wikipedia and the city's own public works dept, the city includes 13.2 square miles of land, 310 miles of paved road, and 62 traffic lights. By recent estimates, they have just over 100 Flock cameras: something like 80 ALPRs and 25 PTZ cams. They also use Flock drones and Raven gunshot detectors, but numbers of those aren't publicly known. That also doesn't include the recently-announced expansion of Flock's services in the city. For whatever reason, those little suburban cities along the northside perimeter absolutely love Flock. Scratch that - according to Dunwoody's transparency portal, they now have 435 Flock cameras of all types. 435 cameras for 13.2 square miles and 51k people. https://transparency.flocksafety.com/dunwoody-ga-pd George Orwell's Big Brother is alive and well! |
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Originally Posted By mclark202: I guess I see what they do and think it’s a positive thing. Obviously I share a different opinion as I have used them for years before I retired. Maybe I’m missing the info about all the bad stuff but I’m open to listening to the problems with them. I drive past them daily in my personal life and never think twice about them being a problem. I’m definitely not interesting enough in my life for the government to give two shots about what I’m doing. And correct, I was never a detective. Didn’t want that headache. I’m not the smartest person anyways. Originally Posted By mclark202: Originally Posted By Xyster7212: You seriously thought that only criminals would have an issue with 24/7 tracking by the government?  You weren't a detective, were you? I guess I see what they do and think it’s a positive thing. Obviously I share a different opinion as I have used them for years before I retired. Maybe I’m missing the info about all the bad stuff but I’m open to listening to the problems with them. I drive past them daily in my personal life and never think twice about them being a problem. I’m definitely not interesting enough in my life for the government to give two shots about what I’m doing. And correct, I was never a detective. Didn’t want that headache. I’m not the smartest person anyways. We know. |
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Lehto seems to think that Supreme Court decisions (Carpenter, Chatrie) are beginning to stack up against Flock, and their data storage/aggregation may soon be deemed a 4th amendment violation:  Does the Recent SCOTUS Geofence Case Threaten Flock? This is the article he cites: https://theautowire.com/2026/07/06/the-supreme-court-just-handed-flocks-license-plate-cameras-a-legal-time-bomb/ "Nooooo - cellphone locations and Flock camera data are completely different! Your license plate belongs to the state, so we have a right to track it in public! What if it was your Nissan NV2500 HD High Roof that was stolen?!"  |
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Flock has been used to catch illegal aliens, so now finally, the Democrats are on board with shutting down Flock or restrict data sharing. LOL https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2026/07/10/columbus-immigration-searches-flock-cameras-audit/90880977007/ Columbus Mayor Andrew Ginther has ordered Columbus police to stop sharing data from Flock Safety license plate reading cameras statewide after an audit found thousands of possibly immigration enforcement-related searches on July 10. "Columbus resources are meant to keep our residents safe and thriving. Any other use is unacceptable," Ginther said in an emailed statement to The Dispatch. "By my order, CPD has stopped statewide data-sharing from our license plate reader network. This means Columbus Police will still have access to this tool, which has played a role in approximately 60% of recent homicide arrests." — More at the link, possibly paywalled |