OFFICIAL Flock Cameras Misused or Destroyed Thread (Page 13 of 24)
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Originally Posted By Rebel31: This is great. I hate the things as much as anyone but neither side has the balls to actually go cut them down which is amusing. I'm aware of three that are inoperable in my AO. Hasn't even made the news. |
"If this is how the state treats its law-abiding citizens, it doesn't deserve to have any"
--Solzhenitsyn
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Originally Posted By Morgan321: To play devil's advocate, gun shops do attract criminals at a disproportionate rate. Local city police have a deal with the local gun store that is also a pawn shop (very large, probably sells 3/4 or more of all guns in sold in the city) - a cop comes in every week or two with a computer and runs a check on every pawned gun and most used guns (theft-prone guns and high-value guns) to see if they're stolen. If they are stolen the cops take the gun and go talk to the person who pawned/sold the gun and start their investigation from there. This is sort of like supporting abortion based on "what if she was raped" - don't pick a niche or corner case to defend your stance. Argue against the mass surveillance aspect of flock, not the use of flock in a single location where it likely solves a disproportionately large fraction of all flock-solved crimes. Originally Posted By Morgan321: Originally Posted By Cobalt135: That is pretty targeted surveillance. Gun shop, Diesel shop, and a house for sale. Dead end..... Local city police have a deal with the local gun store that is also a pawn shop (very large, probably sells 3/4 or more of all guns in sold in the city) - a cop comes in every week or two with a computer and runs a check on every pawned gun and most used guns (theft-prone guns and high-value guns) to see if they're stolen. If they are stolen the cops take the gun and go talk to the person who pawned/sold the gun and start their investigation from there. This is sort of like supporting abortion based on "what if she was raped" - don't pick a niche or corner case to defend your stance. Argue against the mass surveillance aspect of flock, not the use of flock in a single location where it likely solves a disproportionately large fraction of all flock-solved crimes. I'm against Flock or any other brand of ALPR even existing. Especially one that is pointing at a gun shop. ![]() |
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https://www.404media.co/flock-pitched-a-plan-to-turn-uber-and-lyft-drivers-into-roaming-surveillance-vehicles/ Flock pitched a plan to essentially run their ALPR detection/logging system on dashcams in Uber and Lyft vehicles. Any plate they captured in front or rear dashcams would presumably be put into Flock's database, along with location info. Just when I think I can't hate these people any more than I already do... |
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https://www.wnem.com/2026/08/07/police-officer-accused-using-flock-cameras-track-boyfriends-ex-wife/ MOORESVILLE, N.C. (WBTV/Gray News) - A North Carolina police officer was accused Wednesday of accessing Flock Safety cameras for personal reasons. Mooresville Police Chief Ron Campurciani said officer Elizabeth Snowman accessed Flock cameras 31 times for personal use. Snowman used the Flock cameras to get information on and track her boyfriend’s ex-wife, Campurciani said. Mooresville police said of the 31 times that Snowman used Flock cameras, two of them happened when she was off-duty. Officials said Snowman was also not truthful when asked why she accessed the system. An arrest warrant said Snowman allegedly accessed the Flock cameras to get information on the vehicle of her boyfriend’s ex-wife. Mooresville police said they do an audit of the license plate readers every 30 days. Officers have to put in a reason for why they access Flock cameras. The chief said of the 31 searches, 29 of them were motor vehicle infractions and the other two were listed as burglary or robbery. Snowman was charged with accessing computers. She was given a $5,000 bond at the Iredell County Detention Center. ![]() |
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Originally Posted By PepePewPew: https://www.wnem.com/2026/08/07/police-officer-accused-using-flock-cameras-track-boyfriends-ex-wife/ MOORESVILLE, N.C. (WBTV/Gray News) - A North Carolina police officer was accused Wednesday of accessing Flock Safety cameras for personal reasons. Mooresville Police Chief Ron Campurciani said officer Elizabeth Snowman accessed Flock cameras 31 times for personal use. Snowman used the Flock cameras to get information on and track her boyfriend's ex-wife, Campurciani said. Mooresville police said of the 31 times that Snowman used Flock cameras, two of them happened when she was off-duty. Officials said Snowman was also not truthful when asked why she accessed the system. An arrest warrant said Snowman allegedly accessed the Flock cameras to get information on the vehicle of her boyfriend's ex-wife. Mooresville police said they do an audit of the license plate readers every 30 days. Officers have to put in a reason for why they access Flock cameras. The chief said of the 31 searches, 29 of them were motor vehicle infractions and the other two were listed as burglary or robbery. Snowman was charged with accessing computers. She was given a $5,000 bond at the Iredell County Detention Center. https://gray-wnem-prod.gtv-cdn.com/resizer/v2/XSERJGJHT5BUXKK2HWZ2HNMZ2A.png?auth=8c9bcf795baaa6e3fd22fae796d0834a70e567aa8d9c89b87348b8acf7faf7aa&width=1300&height=730&smart=true That one is posted a page back yesterday afternoon..... |
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Talladega man arrested, charged with shooting at Flock Cameras Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Xyster7212: https://www.404media.co/flock-pitched-a-plan-to-turn-uber-and-lyft-drivers-into-roaming-surveillance-vehicles/ Flock pitched a plan to essentially run their ALPR detection/logging system on dashcams in Uber and Lyft vehicles. Any plate they captured in front or rear dashcams would presumably be put into Flock's database, along with location info. Just when I think I can't hate these people any more than I already do... GoFundMe to rent the office? |
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Originally Posted By AR-1556: GoFundMe to rent the office? Originally Posted By AR-1556: Originally Posted By Xyster7212: https://www.404media.co/flock-pitched-a-plan-to-turn-uber-and-lyft-drivers-into-roaming-surveillance-vehicles/ Flock pitched a plan to essentially run their ALPR detection/logging system on dashcams in Uber and Lyft vehicles. Any plate they captured in front or rear dashcams would presumably be put into Flock's database, along with location info. Just when I think I can't hate these people any more than I already do... GoFundMe to rent the office? Already leased. |
Cape Coral Fla wants them on garbage trucks.![]()
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Originally Posted By Morgan321: To play devil's advocate, gun shops do attract criminals at a disproportionate rate. Local city police have a deal with the local gun store that is also a pawn shop (very large, probably sells 3/4 or more of all guns in sold in the city) - a cop comes in every week or two with a computer and runs a check on every pawned gun and most used guns (theft-prone guns and high-value guns) to see if they're stolen. If they are stolen the cops take the gun and go talk to the person who pawned/sold the gun and start their investigation from there. This is sort of like supporting abortion based on "what if she was raped" - don't pick a niche or corner case to defend your stance. Argue against the mass surveillance aspect of flock, not the use of flock in a single location where it likely solves a disproportionately large fraction of all flock-solved crimes. A lot of the Lowe’s and Home Depot’s around here have them in their parking lot entrances as well. They get hit with a ton of theft. One time I asked a flock rep if there was a kill switch, for just in case….. He was not amused. ![]() ![]() |
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Originally Posted By Cobalt135: I'm against Flock or any other brand of ALPR even existing. Especially one that is pointing at a gun shop. ![]() Originally Posted By Cobalt135: Originally Posted By Morgan321: Originally Posted By Cobalt135: That is pretty targeted surveillance. Gun shop, Diesel shop, and a house for sale. Dead end..... Local city police have a deal with the local gun store that is also a pawn shop (very large, probably sells 3/4 or more of all guns in sold in the city) - a cop comes in every week or two with a computer and runs a check on every pawned gun and most used guns (theft-prone guns and high-value guns) to see if they're stolen. If they are stolen the cops take the gun and go talk to the person who pawned/sold the gun and start their investigation from there. This is sort of like supporting abortion based on "what if she was raped" - don't pick a niche or corner case to defend your stance. Argue against the mass surveillance aspect of flock, not the use of flock in a single location where it likely solves a disproportionately large fraction of all flock-solved crimes. I'm against Flock or any other brand of ALPR even existing. Especially one that is pointing at a gun shop. ![]() If there are to be cams at gun shops, let them be the personal ones of the shop itself, and nobody else's and make sure the customers know of the cams. |
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Gun range supposedly in wisconsin with flock cams pointed at it. Video at (gag) reddit link. https://www.reddit.com/r/FlockSurveillance/comments/1vhvtoz/yet_another_gun_range_getting_doxxedflocked/ --------- We swear, it's for your safety! NM that it gets you felony stopped as a possible homicide suspect! Don't pay attention to that! https://www.fox6now.com/news/brookfield-police-stop-wrong-vehicle-flock Flock system mix-up, Brookfield traffic stop of wrong person By Stephanie Quirk and Ben Hanson FOX6 News Milwaukee Published August 7, 2026 7:00 AM CDT Police pulled the car over after a Flock camera flagged it for a Milwaukee homicide. But when Brookfield Police called the Milwaukee Police Department, MPD said they no longer needed the car or the people inside, so officers let them go. FOX6 News reached out to MPD to learn why that car was still active in the Flock system. The department said it was not a Flock issue, but a personnel issue – staff failed to remove a wanted vehicle alert from the system. Last Monday, Newell said the same thing happened when Milwaukee police pulled her over with guns drawn. She said officers never explained why, towed her car, and let her go. Newell said she is still scared to drive her car, and her daughter is too. "My daughter keep asking me, mama is the police going to get us? She doesn’t want to ride in the car no more because she don’t know if the police going to pull us over and do it again," Newell said. ![]() Flock system mix-up leads to stop on I-94 | FOX6 News Milwaukee We swear, the mass surveillance is for your good! Look, this is just the price of us getting to monetize mass surveilla... uh ... your safety being prioritized! ----------- Georgia, still going for the winners circle:
![]() "look, it was just a one time oopsie that they used the mass surveillance to stalk someone, ok? Everyone gets one mulligan! (gotta love how everyone was notified and the guy wasn't let go?)
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The ones put on leave in Savannah last week have been fired. https://www.wtoc.com/2026/08/07/savannah-police-department-fires-6-employees-over-flock-safety-system-misuse SAVANNAH, Ga. (WTOC) - The Savannah Police Department terminated four sworn officers and two civilian employees following an internal investigation into misuse of the department’s Flock Safety License Plate Reader system. All six cases are also under independent criminal investigation by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. The six employees were placed on administrative leave last week after a proactive review of system activity identified searches that appeared to have been conducted for purposes unrelated to legitimate law enforcement activity. SPD started an internal investigation July 27 and referred all six cases to the GBI for independent criminal review. SPD’s administrative investigation determined the employees violated department policies governing the authorized use of law enforcement technology and departmental resources. Investigators found that employees were running searches on personal acquaintances and family members. One officer was found to have given someone from an outside law enforcement agency access to SPD’s Flock Safety system, which they weren’t authorized to do. |
not giving a shit about anyone or anything.
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Originally Posted By Gunslinger808: Meanwhile in my County… https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/19372/IMG_7979_jpeg-3807320.JPG Chandler, AZ is getting rid of theirs after their audit process "identified an anomaly in the use of the Flock system that could not be explained through standard police action".
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not giving a shit about anyone or anything.
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Originally Posted By Extorris: Chandler, AZ is getting rid of theirs after their audit process "identified an anomaly in the use of the Flock system that could not be explained through standard police action". Originally Posted By Extorris: Chandler, AZ is getting rid of theirs after their audit process "identified an anomaly in the use of the Flock system that could not be explained through standard police action". https://www.chandleraz.gov/news-center/chandler-discontinues-use-flocks-automated-license-plate-readers From the article: Although Chandler’s access to the system will be terminated, the 40 fixed-camera ALPRs and poles are the property of Flock Group, Inc. The removal of that equipment will be performed as quickly as possible by the vendor. Flock will take their own sweet time in removing those cameras and you can bet money Flock is still pulling data from them. |
-Beware the fury of a patient man.
-Thousands and thousands of laws....All for just ten commandments.
-"alot" is not a word.
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A Talladega man was recently arrested for allegedly damaging Flock Camera Systems owned by the Talladega County Commission. Colton Dorough, 36, faces six criminal complaints in Talladega County District Court that list 10 counts against him: six for first-degree criminal mischief and four for damage to utility or cable property. Four of the felony complaints allege Dorough shot the Flock cameras with a gun, according to court records. The remaining two complaints allege damage to Flock Camera Systems but do not specify how the damage occurred. Each complaint alleges more than $2,500 in damage to the camera systems. Dorough was arrested on July 29 and is being held on a $200,000 bond, according to jail records. District Attorney Steve Giddens said Dorough told authorities he shot the cameras because they were a “violation of his privacy.” Efforts to reach his appointed attorney, Charley Tudsico, were not immediately successful. https://www.al.com/crime/2026/08/talladega-man-allegedly-shoots-flock-cameras-he-believed-were-a-violation-of-his-privacy.html |
Any opinions expressed are my own and do not reflect upon any agency or organization with which I may be employed or affiliated.
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Georgia.....again. https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2026/08/07/gbi-arrests-former-polk-county-police-officer-allegedly-misusing-flock-camera-system A former Polk County police officer was arrested for allegedly misusing another department’s Flock license plate reader system, according to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI). Tracey Royston, 51, of Cedartown, was arrested Friday by the GBI on four misdemeanor counts of misuse of a license plate reader system, the agency said. At the time of the alleged crimes, Royston was an officer with the Polk County Police Department, and was serving on the Northwest Georgia Drug Task Force, which is managed by the GBI. Because she was on the GBI task force, Royston had access to the Cedartown Police Department’s Flock Safety system. On July 31, Cedartown police asked the GBI to investigate allegations that the system was misused. The GBI said its preliminary investigation indicates that Royston accessed the Flock system multiple times between 2024 and 2025 for non-law enforcement purposes. |
not giving a shit about anyone or anything.
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Originally Posted By Extorris: Georgia.....again. https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2026/08/07/gbi-arrests-former-polk-county-police-officer-allegedly-misusing-flock-camera-system Does that make an even 30 this year? Am I missing any? 3 at Cherokee County SO 3 at Fayetteville PD 5 at Albany PD 1 at Dekalb County 4 at Richmond County SO 1 at Conyers PD 1 at Habersham County SO. 6 at Savannah PD 1 at Greene County SO 1 at Echols County SO 3 at Coweta County SO 1 at Polk County PD |
![]() https://waghn001.substack.com/p/flock-client-list There is no public list of who Flock Safety works with. So we built one from the company’s own customers — 5,834 organizations, named. How we know This list is assembled from the shared-network exports of law enforcement agencies, each obtained through public-records requests. When a records officer exports an agency’s “shared networks,” the file names every other organization that agency is connected to inside Flock. Such exports, cross-referenced and deduplicated, yield the roster below. Exports name 5,834 unique organizations. Because the hubs overlap heavily — the combined list is far more complete than any single agency’s. It is still, however, a floor, not a ceiling: pulling additional hub agencies’ exports would surface still more clients. What’s in the network Of the 5,834 organizations, the largest single category is municipal and local police departments — 3,539 of them. The rest breaks down roughly as follows: 3,539 municipal / local police departments 1,017 sheriff’s offices 187 campus and university police departments 51 state agencies (state police, DNR, investigative bureaus) 46 task forces and fusion centers 24 prosecutors and district attorneys’ offices 10 corrections agencies 29 federal entities the remainder are other local government bodies, airports, transit police, and a scattering of private entities that hold Flock accounts Geographically the network is densest in the Southeast and industrial Midwest, radiating out from the Georgia agencies whose exports anchor the dataset — but it reaches 47 states and the District of Columbia. Per the site, they don't think it's complete, nor does it tell you WHO accessed the data. Full list @ link. |
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https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/in-your-community/milwaukee-county/cudahy-gun-range-removes-flock-cameras-over-privacy-concerns Eagle Sports Range in Cudahy says it has removed all of its Flock Safety cameras, citing privacy concerns. By: Kaylee Staral , Photojournalist Ethan Ramsey CUDAHY — Eagle Sports Range in Cudahy says it has removed all of its Flock Safety cameras, citing privacy concerns. General manager Saad Jaber told TMJ4 three Flock cameras were installed when the range opened around December 2023. In a statement released Friday, the business said it installed the automated license plate reader cameras after other gun ranges in the Milwaukee area were broken into. It said the cameras were intended "to deter criminal activity and protect our customers and property." "For us, we heard about Flock and understood it was to protect business," Jaber said. Flock Safety cameras detect the license plate number, make, model and color of all vehicles that pass by. Jaber said the cameras were used once in the past two years to help police investigate the theft of a firearm from a vehicle in the range's parking lot. However, he said the range's concerns began months ago. "We noticed the concerns before it ever got as big as it is now," Jaber said. "We wanted to be ahead of it so we reached out." According to the business's statement, Eagle Sports Range contacted Flock in February to request removal of the cameras but was told it was contractually obligated to keep them in place. Jaber said the business decided to remove the cameras anyway after a viral video circulated showing the cameras on the property. "After the video circulated, we made a clear decision: we care more about the privacy of our customers than we do about a contract," the statement reads. |
| The real question is what systems are they using to replace them? You know anyone who's either enamored with the power or too stupid to realize the problem isn't going to stop just because they have to remove "Flock" cameras, they're going to find a different manufacturer or system. |
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic: The real question is what systems are they using to replace them? You know anyone who's either enamored with the power or too stupid to realize the problem isn't going to stop just because they have to remove "Flock" cameras, they're going to find a different manufacturer or system. I hear axon tossed around a lot as replacement. I've also heard about motorola, and I'd be shocked if there aren't other ones. We just need to pull on our big boy pants and ban the government from doing mass surveillance. |
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic: The real question is what systems are they using to replace them? Cities Are Ditching Flock Safety Cameras – Then Hiring Axon to Do the Same Job |
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| Due to all the bad press here in Georgia our Sheriff's Office announced they cut back the amount of employees who can now access the system to mostly supervisors. |
not giving a shit about anyone or anything.
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Originally Posted By realwar:
Totally not just revenue enhancement. Nope. No sir. "For your safety." |
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A former Albertville police officer faces felony charges after an investigation found he repeatedly searched his ex-spouse and one of her close family members on law enforcement databases without any legitimate public safety purpose, officials said. Jeremy Hannah was arrested Friday and charged with violation of the Alabama Digital Crimes Act, a Class B felony, according to a news release from Marshall County District Attorney Jennifer Bray. https://www.al.com/crime/2026/08/former-alabama-police-officer-allegedly-misused-law-enforcement-database-to-look-up-ex-wife.html |
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Originally Posted By realwar: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2026-08-09_at_13-56-57__10__H-3808801.JPG
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2026-08-09_at_13-59-55__10__H-3808802.JPG
Hnh. I wonder which of those costs the PD income for no return, and which of those is a loss of a revenue stream. Somebody ought to investigate that. ----------
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Originally Posted By realwar:
Simple solution:
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three guys bagged in Lisle. It's the thing to do |
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The problem with deploying the Kudzu is it won't stop with just the camera. Kudzu likes a good challenge. Like growing under a foot of concrete. |
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Originally Posted By Blundersteer: The problem with deploying the Kudzu is it won't stop with just the camera. Kudzu likes a good challenge. Like growing under a foot of concrete. Originally Posted By Blundersteer: The problem with deploying the Kudzu is it won't stop with just the camera. Kudzu likes a good challenge. Like growing under a foot of concrete. Mass surveillance requires a mass response. |
![]() PCSO not renewing Flock Safety contract And he's referring to Pinal County AZ, NOT Pinnelas. |
Call sign:Radio Silence
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WTF is in the donut batter in Georgia? |
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Originally Posted By W202fan90: WTF is in the donut batter in Georgia? Originally Posted By W202fan90: WTF is in the donut batter in Georgia? If I had to guess: Low LEO pay + rapid population growth + extremes of public opinion towards police that create a "cops vs everyone else" mentality. You have two wildly different Georgias (with suburbs blending the two): Atlanta and the other cities where cops are under a microscope and hated by the locals, versus massive rural areas where the cops have minimal oversight and can do no wrong. Both situations can lead some police to develop a belief that they don't need to treat the public with respect. |
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Originally Posted By W202fan90: WTF is in the donut batter in Georgia? Originally Posted By W202fan90: WTF is in the donut batter in Georgia? That we know of they seem to have more flock camera systems than other states by density ... or it's more PDS that have them by density, I forget which. IDK if their rate is higher. Also, who KNOWS what we are not getting told about in other states. |
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https://www.bostonherald.com/2026/07/31/littleton-claims-flock-reactivated-its-cameras-without-notifying-the-town/ Littleton claims Flock reactivated its cameras without notifying the town Town to initiate cancellation of Flock contract By Peter Currier | [email protected] | Lowell Sun PUBLISHED: July 31, 2026 at 1:55 PM EDT | UPDATED: July 31, 2026 at 5:01 PM EDT LITTLETON — Officials claim that five of Littleton’s Flock Safety cameras were switched back on by the company without informing the town after the town temporarily disabled the cameras earlier this year. https://www.littletonma.org/m/newsflash/home/detail/593 This morning, at the request of Select Board Chairman, Gary Wilson, Littleton Police Department (LPD) accessed the Flock platform to verify status. It was discovered that five cameras on Littleton public ways had been reactivated by Flock Safety, with no notification to the town. There is no data shared from Littleton cameras to other jurisdictions and at no time did LPD access any data gathered by the cameras in Littleton while they were powered. Select Board Chairman Wilson and the Select Board were notified and immediately requested LELD turn the breaker off to each camera. As of this afternoon, LELD confirmed turning off the camera power. Select Board Chairman Wilson and the Select Board then directed Town Counsel to initiate cancellation of the contract with Flock Safety and directed the Town Administrator to coordinate the removal of the six cameras on public ways with DPW. |
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Wapello county: More at reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Iowa/comments/1vk27zy/wapello_county_sheriff_phillips_defends_his/ For Immediate Release: License Plate Reader (LPR) Cameras The Wapello County Sheriff's Office has recently received an increasing number of questions and public records requests regarding our use of License Plate Reader (LPR) cameras. We recognize that communities across Iowa and throughout the country are having important conversations about law enforcement technology, privacy, and the legal and constitutional issues surrounding their use. We understand why members of the public want to know how this technology works, how it’s used, and what safeguards are in place to protect individual rights. To help answer those questions, we have attached a Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) document that explains how our LPR system is used, what information it collects and how Deputies use that information. While responding to recent inquiries, questions have also been asked about language contained in a previous Sheriff's Office policy regarding the visibility of LPR cameras during traffic stops. The intent of that language was to protect the effectiveness of an important investigative tool. Like many investigative tools used by law enforcement, License Plate Reader cameras are most effective when their locations or capabilities are not widely publicized. Protecting those details helps preserve the effectiveness of the system and reduces the risk of tampering or vandalism. For instance; after the locations of several of our LPR cameras became publicly known, four of our cameras were shot out. Replacing them will likely come at a cost and has reduced our ability to use this technology to locate Amber alerts, find missing persons/endangered persons, recover stolen vehicles and assist in criminal investigations. At the same time, we can see why some people interpret the previous policy language differently than we intended. If someone already has concerns about government transparency, we can see how the wording could be read as encouraging Deputies to hide the role of LPR cameras during a traffic stop for some potentially dishonest reason. That was never our intent. Our goal was simply to preserve the effectiveness of the system by avoiding the unnecessary disclosure of camera locations. For that reason, the Wapello County Sheriff's Office is reviewing the language of that policy to make sure it clearly communicates its purpose while still remaining consistent with our commitment to protecting the citizens of Wapello County with honesty and professionalism. For additional information about License Plate Reader technology and how the Wapello County Sheriff's Office uses it. Please refer to the attached License Plate Reader (LPR) Frequently Asked Questions document. Hey wapello: Just because you can do something wrong to people (treat everyone who commits the sin of getting near your cameras like a criminal) and might have a good thing happen afterwards ... that doesn't mean you should do it, or even that you have the right to (and yes, government workers and governmetns routinely do stuff they don't have the right to, and no, making it law doesn't make it right). The proper answer? "We stopped tracking everyone all the time and instead we are leaning on our courts and legislators to start giving criminals what they deserve" - but that's a bit too scary for yall to do. It means you actually would have to risk something and show if you're professionally pusanimillous or not. |
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Originally Posted By realwar:
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Originally Posted By realwar:
Nah bro. They’re just low resolution LPR cameras. Y’all don’t know what you’re talking about!
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There are these tools that people might use in Minecraft to turn pipes that might not be pointing in the correct direction if they are concerned. They look like this..... Attached File |
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