Ive had my Wrangler since 2011 and ;ove it. 205k miles so far. Only major issue was the automatic trans went out at 175k miles but was replaced under my lifetime warranty. Just know that buying a Wrangler is kinda like buying a Harley, you're also joining a club. They are also like Ar15's in that if you want to mod something, 12 companies make a version of the mod. Personally, I've had more reliable service from Jeeps than GM vehicles by far. WHITE FLARES3 by Wandell Asbell, on Flickr |
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Originally Posted By GlockCamper: What is wrong with Jeeps specifically? Is it all jeeps or just the wranglers? The 3.6 pentastar is a long running and well proven engine generally. It's the typical GD hate; the 3.6 Pentastar and 8 speed transmission is one of the best powertrains available today. A lot of people mod them, and then the quality of parts and labor come into play, but people will still blame issues on it being a Jeep. A lot of people buy one because they're cool, then decide they're a piece of shit because they aren't a comfortable highway cruiser. Well no shit. |
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Originally Posted By Szilagyi-hpg: I have seen several late models still eat cams and rocker arms. That engine has always been prone to a number of head issues since inception. It’s good so far as a fiat chrysler engine, but in no way is it a tank. The very first runs had some issues with castings that were resolved by the end of 2012. That's really it for widespread/design/manufacturing issues. |
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Originally Posted By AK-12: It's the typical GD hate; the 3.6 Pentastar and 8 speed transmission is one of the best powertrains available today. A lot of people mod them, and then the quality of parts and labor come into play, but people will still blame issues on it being a Jeep. A lot of people buy one because they're cool, then decide they're a piece of shit because they aren't a comfortable highway cruiser. Well no shit. Our Grand Cherokee is at 107k, and we are trying to decide what to do. Gave 25k for it brand new. Keep it, or replace with ???. (Not trying to hijack OPs thread). |
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Originally Posted By DirkericPitt: I still don't understand what is wrong with a jeep for daily driving. I do it everyday. I have never once in my life drove a car and thought about the "ride". Do bumps hurt your butts or something? I do not notice anything different between my wrangler, my wives palisade, my fils f150, my mom suburu. Same sentiment from me. I do have the longer wheelbase Gladiator though, which is going to ride better than a 2 door Wrangler. I’ve never cared much about ride quality. I’ve done plenty of daily driving in an unladen F250 
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Originally Posted By GlockCamper: Our Grand Cherokee is at 107k, and we are trying to decide what to do. Gave 25k for it brand new. Keep it, or replace with ???. (Not trying to hijack OPs thread). We traded out 2015 Durango for our current Grand Cherokee just under 2 years ago. Durango never gave us any problems but my wife wanted 4wd and a nicer trim. Jeep has 41k on it, Durango had 122k. No issues with the Jeep either. |
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Three-Jeep family here - 2010, 2013 and 2016 JKUs. Personally, I would not DD a Wrangler. I'm tall and fat, so that's part of the problem. Wife is 5' 2" and 120 lbs, she loves hers (the 2016). The JL was a pretty respectable upgrade/update of the JK. A buddy recently bought a used 2021 JLU with 50k miles, and he loves it. A nicely-optioned JL/JLU might be better as a DD, but it's still a narrow body with weird ergos, and a suspension/running gear setup that doesn't prioritize comfort and a nice ride. |
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Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470: If you want a Jeep, nothing else will satisfy you. Just make sure you actually want a Jeep. https://i.imgur.com/eSvxgRy.jpeg This is really good advice. They are a great vehicle as long as you consider running a full reliability program out of your garage a good deal. Expect to replace everything over time. Expect to replace a bunch of stuff early….also known as setup or buying in. Expect rando’s to ask about your ducks. Expect people to wave that you don’t know. Carry recovery gear and basic relocation supplies. Depending on the break down, relocation might be the better option. |
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| I just drove my gladiator for the first time in 7 weeks today. I had to swap the engine due to head gasket failure and chewed up intake cams. I missed it though! Couple more short trips in the daylight and I'll be commuting with it again. My sons Colorado gets around 50% better fuel economy though! |
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Originally Posted By Ramcharger_pilot: I'm not going anywhere rougher than a forest service road.  Honestly, buying a Honda Ridgeline was about the best thing I have done for myself after bouncing around for years in a fantastically dependable but uncomfortable 4 Runner. the Honda meets every demand of suburban life, has some very interesting features, and is wonderfully comfortable to drive. Perfect for light woods cruising, still capable of a commute or the interstate. Highly recommended. |
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Originally Posted By Dopple: WK2 Hemi. OP should get both: WK2 Ecodiesel That said, they are definitely not for everyone, but if you get a good one it’s hard not to love them. Ours is my wife’s primary vehicle and our road trip vehicle of choice when not towing our travel trailer. It’s easy to put in 400-500 mile days behind the wheel. 30+ MPG on the freeway means stopping to use the bathroom more than stopping for fuel. |
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Originally Posted By Ramcharger_pilot: Small. I'm big. I know, challenger. Still it's the smallest thing I can get in/out of. I'm also old. Really don't need or want a car. ETA Just noticed the picture. I'm interested. I acknowledge most of the internet BS is just hate. Haters never win. Originally Posted By Ramcharger_pilot: Originally Posted By Aimless: I bought a gladiator used this year. I wouldn't want one for commuting. They're loud and unreliable. They're great off road. Why not a Camry or used Lexus ? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14563/IMG_2627-3831373.jpg Small. I'm big. I know, challenger. Still it's the smallest thing I can get in/out of. I'm also old. Really don't need or want a car. ETA Just noticed the picture. I'm interested. I acknowledge most of the internet BS is just hate. Haters never win. ...aren't current gen Jeeps notorious for bad seats & no leg room? |
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Originally Posted By MattyMattel: I have a Gladiator, and take it off road all the time. Why tonight I went to the pet store to get a baggie of doggie food, then to Walmart for some Maxwell House coffee. Oh yeah, went to Jersey Mike's too, got a #7. Dang the Gladiator is impressive. It can go off road, while also has the ability to go to the pet store, Walmart and Jersey Mike's. |
