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8/5/2022 5:32:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: floridahunter07][Edited] [#1]
My buddy that recently (well, in 2020) moved out west to Vegas ended up back in Florida about three weeks ago for a long-term project... in Orlando. The week after he ordered a Blacktip Tech DPV and had it shipped to his house... in Vegas.

So, he's flying to Vegas this weekend to grab his gear and scooter. I had a really good month selling RE the last 30-40 days (and painted a house to boot) so my dumb ass plopped down over $2k for the same scooter, two 10AH Dewalt batteries for it, and the camera mount to stick my (new as of last year) GoPro 9 on it... plus I might buy two more smaller 6AH batteries and a dual charger just so I can have two sets that are suitable for rec dives since almost anything Dewalt is on sale at Lowes right now.

I was on the phone with him shortly thereafter and my wife was like "is that Cody? TELL HIM IF HE CONVINCES YOU TO BUY ANYMORE SHIT THAT COSTS SEVERAL GRAND HE'S NOT WELCOME TO STAY HERE ANYMORE WHEN HE'S IN TOWN" and walked off laughing

I have another friend who's willing to basically give me a free DPV class so I won't have any issue using it on boats and I'm looking at trying to do AN/DP, maybe this fall. Need to get some time in the water and get the rust off.

"They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
8/5/2022 8:07:19 PM EDT
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Okay, that’s funny.
"They know what shipwrecks are, for out of sight of land, however inland, they have drowned full many a midnight ship with all its shrieking crew." - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, 1851, on the Great Lakes
8/5/2022 8:34:00 PM EDT
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"I think I got everything I need now for the rest of my life!...Oh look!  Where is my credit card?"
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8/6/2022 1:06:10 AM EDT
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I tell him on a repetitive basis that his friendship is the worst thing that’s ever happened to my bank account… keep in mind, these purchases are in the midst of planning an 11 day trip to Vegas to hike & camp Zion, Mount Charleston, Red Rocks, and maybe the Grand Canyon again. My credit card is almost smoldering with the amount of payments toward the balance and then additional purchases I’m making.

Thankfully the trip itself only cost me about $210 for airfare but the equipment I needed was another story. Last time I went, we tent camped the Grand Canyon on a 7-degree night and I refuse to ever be that cold again.
"They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
8/7/2022 9:03:56 PM EDT
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Full cave is kicking my ass.
"They know what shipwrecks are, for out of sight of land, however inland, they have drowned full many a midnight ship with all its shrieking crew." - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, 1851, on the Great Lakes
8/7/2022 10:40:59 PM EDT
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In Mexico? I’ve heard that to be the case…
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8/8/2022 6:12:47 PM EDT
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It’s a lot of work and the expectations are a lot higher.

Remark:  Accidental mod-superpower edit when I meant to quote.-HM
Look, when I woke up this morning I had no plans to be sexy, but shit happens!
8/8/2022 6:30:12 PM EDT
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You'll be fine, just don't plan on being back to work the day after you finish!
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8/8/2022 6:33:47 PM EDT
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I guarantee you she is doing a metric shit-ton of frog kicking, likely into some decent currents.  They push you to prove you can and also to cram as much into as few days as possible.  They have more $$$ to run through the blender in line behind her.
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8/8/2022 6:36:17 PM EDT
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I guarantee you she is doing a metric shit-ton of frog kicking, likely into some decent currents.  They push you to prove you can and also to cram as much into as few days as possible.  They have more $$$ to run through the blender in line behind her.
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It’s a lot of work and the expectations are a lot higher.



I guarantee you she is doing a metric shit-ton of frog kicking, likely into some decent currents.  They push you to prove you can and also to cram as much into as few days as possible.  They have more $$$ to run through the blender in line behind her.


Current is little to non existent in MX. Much different from FL. My instructor is lower volume.

I’ve essentially passed. Just a few things tomorrow and one fun dive.
"They know what shipwrecks are, for out of sight of land, however inland, they have drowned full many a midnight ship with all its shrieking crew." - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, 1851, on the Great Lakes
8/8/2022 8:11:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Marie:


Current is little to non existent in MX. Much different from FL. My instructor is lower volume.

I’ve essentially passed. Just a few things tomorrow and one fun dive.
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Awesome, congratulations!
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8/8/2022 8:26:57 PM EDT
[#12]
Good Job!
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8/8/2022 8:33:52 PM EDT
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I guarantee you she is doing a metric shit-ton of frog kicking, likely into some decent currents.  They push you to prove you can and also to cram as much into as few days as possible.  They have more $$$ to run through the blender in line behind her.
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You know I’m full cave and live in cave country in Florida right?
Look, when I woke up this morning I had no plans to be sexy, but shit happens!
8/8/2022 8:34:17 PM EDT
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Current is little to non existent in MX. Much different from FL. My instructor is lower volume.

I’ve essentially passed. Just a few things tomorrow and one fun dive.
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Look, when I woke up this morning I had no plans to be sexy, but shit happens!
8/8/2022 8:51:01 PM EDT
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After second dive today at Tajma Ha.

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8/8/2022 10:05:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Marie:
After second dive today at Tajma Ha.

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Alright, I gotta ask. What do you have sunk into that process thus far, cost-wise? Class, lodging, travel, etc.
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8/8/2022 10:09:05 PM EDT
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Alright, I gotta ask. What do you have sunk into that process thus far, cost-wise? Class, lodging, travel, etc.
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Are you trying to traumatize her?
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8/8/2022 10:16:52 PM EDT
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Alright, I gotta ask. What do you have sunk into that process thus far, cost-wise? Class, lodging, travel, etc.
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Cavern/intro to cave - $800 class fee plus fills. Class at WI mine so I just drove there. 3-4 nights hotel.

Full cave: $250/day class fee. 5 days for class plus $250 for guided fun dives tomorrow. $400 hotel. $725 plain ticket. Had to get a wetsuit $500. Big rolling duffle to haul gear. $225 from REI. MX is cheap for food.
"They know what shipwrecks are, for out of sight of land, however inland, they have drowned full many a midnight ship with all its shrieking crew." - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, 1851, on the Great Lakes
8/8/2022 10:23:16 PM EDT
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Don’t forget you have to add possibly new gear/tanks, eLearning fees ($150 per class for TDI), food for class days, car gas to get there. Mine was a private class.
"They know what shipwrecks are, for out of sight of land, however inland, they have drowned full many a midnight ship with all its shrieking crew." - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, 1851, on the Great Lakes
8/8/2022 10:23:42 PM EDT
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Are you trying to traumatize her?
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Originally Posted By floridahunter07:


Alright, I gotta ask. What do you have sunk into that process thus far, cost-wise? Class, lodging, travel, etc.



Are you trying to traumatize her?


"They know what shipwrecks are, for out of sight of land, however inland, they have drowned full many a midnight ship with all its shrieking crew." - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, 1851, on the Great Lakes
8/9/2022 7:14:28 PM EDT
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Officially passed full cave! Woo hoo!
"They know what shipwrecks are, for out of sight of land, however inland, they have drowned full many a midnight ship with all its shrieking crew." - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, 1851, on the Great Lakes
8/10/2022 8:12:26 AM EDT
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Awesome! What's next?
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8/10/2022 8:49:40 AM EDT
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Awesome! What's next?
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Originally Posted By Marie:
Officially passed full cave! Woo hoo!


Awesome! What's next?


CCR! My Kiss Spirit is scheduled to ship from the manufacturer Sept 16th. Training should start soon after it arrives.
"They know what shipwrecks are, for out of sight of land, however inland, they have drowned full many a midnight ship with all its shrieking crew." - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, 1851, on the Great Lakes
8/10/2022 9:35:13 AM EDT
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CCR! My Kiss Spirit is scheduled to ship from the manufacturer Sept 16th. Training should start soon after it arrives.
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Originally Posted By Marie:
Officially passed full cave! Woo hoo!


Awesome! What's next?


CCR! My Kiss Spirit is scheduled to ship from the manufacturer Sept 16th. Training should start soon after it arrives.


Sweet!

For some reason I would have thought you'd go for one of the sidemount models.
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8/10/2022 11:50:10 AM EDT
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Sweet!

For some reason I would have thought you'd go for one of the sidemount models.
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My grand passion is Great Lakes wreck diving. The SM models don’t work as well as a backmount model for wreck diving.
"They know what shipwrecks are, for out of sight of land, however inland, they have drowned full many a midnight ship with all its shrieking crew." - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, 1851, on the Great Lakes
8/11/2022 6:28:00 PM EDT
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Look, when I woke up this morning I had no plans to be sexy, but shit happens!
8/11/2022 9:06:53 PM EDT
[#27]
My DPV arrived today

Too bad I won’t be able to use it til Tuesday because I’m going to KY tomorrow (flying) and can’t give myself 12 hours between dive and flight… kinda pissed
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8/12/2022 12:43:47 AM EDT
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Ended up getting a bit of montezuma’s revenge. Went through last half of class with it. Just stuffed myself with Imodium. Went into work 2 hours late today and did the minimum. Hit bed as soon as I got home today and slept like the dead for 3 hours. Communing with the heating pad at home as that makes the stomach cramps feel much better.

Definitely not diving this weekend.
"They know what shipwrecks are, for out of sight of land, however inland, they have drowned full many a midnight ship with all its shrieking crew." - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, 1851, on the Great Lakes
8/12/2022 12:46:09 AM EDT
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My DPV arrived today

Too bad I won’t be able to use it til Tuesday because I’m going to KY tomorrow (flying) and can’t give myself 12 hours between dive and flight… kinda pissed
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sucks to be you I guess. Lol
"They know what shipwrecks are, for out of sight of land, however inland, they have drowned full many a midnight ship with all its shrieking crew." - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, 1851, on the Great Lakes
8/18/2022 11:52:43 PM EDT
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Thread in GD about cave class.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/2572299_Marie-goes-cave-diving-Mexican-cenotes-version.html

Some photos and uw video
"They know what shipwrecks are, for out of sight of land, however inland, they have drowned full many a midnight ship with all its shrieking crew." - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, 1851, on the Great Lakes
8/19/2022 10:59:13 AM EDT
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Well done Marie...
8/19/2022 4:23:24 PM EDT
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Thank you! Sooo glad I’m done with that now.
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8/19/2022 5:25:45 PM EDT
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Did one dive with the scooter and promptly got COVID two days later. I dove Tuesday, felt great, Wednesday I felt great, a little sore in the shoulders/neck, Thursday I woke up with a full-on sinus infection complete with the worst headache of my life. Ended up having some nausea, loss of balance, 100+ degree fever, extreme fatigue (most tired I've ever been in my life) and loss of appetite. I figured it was from the bacteria-laden pond that is Hunter Springs in Crystal River (which has been posted "high bacteria" for the last.... five years? LOL).

So, I went to bed at 2pm yesterday after taking every OTC cold med we have in this house, and didn't get up until 8am today except for maybe 90 minutes or so being awake to order pizza and eat it last night. Felt like a rockstar all morning, took the at-home COVID test to eliminate the possibility as I did travel this week via airline and have a friend that was supposed to come over this weekend to go diving that I don't want to get sick... tested positive within two minutes. Called my doc and he put me on meds, told me most people lately that he's seen with it are over it within 3-5 days.

All I have now is a barely-sore throat and chest congestion, so hopefully that's as bad as it gets and I can test negative before next weekend so that he and I can still go do our South FL shore dives with the scooters.


I'm thinking it may be time to take full cave here soon, just so I can progress toward using this DPV in a cave environment as that's where 90% of the use will be. I had no idea until AFTER purchasing it that most sites don't allow DPV use in open water as I'd assumed/have since learned...
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8/19/2022 6:04:55 PM EDT
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Did one dive with the scooter and promptly got COVID two days later. I dove Tuesday, felt great, Wednesday I felt great, a little sore in the shoulders/neck, Thursday I woke up with a full-on sinus infection complete with the worst headache of my life. Ended up having some nausea, loss of balance, 100+ degree fever, extreme fatigue (most tired I've ever been in my life) and loss of appetite. I figured it was from the bacteria-laden pond that is Hunter Springs in Crystal River (which has been posted "high bacteria" for the last.... five years? LOL).

So, I went to bed at 2pm yesterday after taking every OTC cold med we have in this house, and didn't get up until 8am today except for maybe 90 minutes or so being awake to order pizza and eat it last night. Felt like a rockstar all morning, took the at-home COVID test to eliminate the possibility as I did travel this week via airline and have a friend that was supposed to come over this weekend to go diving that I don't want to get sick... tested positive within two minutes. Called my doc and he put me on meds, told me most people lately that he's seen with it are over it within 3-5 days.

All I have now is a barely-sore throat and chest congestion, so hopefully that's as bad as it gets and I can test negative before next weekend so that he and I can still go do our South FL shore dives with the scooters.


I'm thinking it may be time to take full cave here soon, just so I can progress toward using this DPV in a cave environment as that's where 90% of the use will be. I had no idea until AFTER purchasing it that most sites don't allow DPV use in open water as I'd assumed/have since learned...
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You poor bastard. :(

I’ve been told to not scooter into a cave further than I’ve swam. So I’ll pass that along to you as well.

Yeah time to take full cave. Who knew I’d have it before you did!
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8/19/2022 10:26:53 PM EDT
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You poor bastard. :(

I’ve been told to not scooter into a cave further than I’ve swam. So I’ll pass that along to you as well.

Yeah time to take full cave. Who knew I’d have it before you did!
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If it weren't for bad luck... well, you know the rest.

Honestly, I just want to use it to get to the points I've swam to, so I can spend more time there checking things out before I have to turn and swim back out. That, and not having a cave DPV card really limits where you can use them around here.

And I know, right?! Life is funny how things work out some times.
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8/20/2022 12:39:15 PM EDT
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If it weren't for bad luck... well, you know the rest.

Honestly, I just want to use it to get to the points I've swam to, so I can spend more time there checking things out before I have to turn and swim back out. That, and not having a cave DPV card really limits where you can use them around here.

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That’s right. I forgot you’ve been diving thirds for a while now.
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8/20/2022 12:44:24 PM EDT
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Only like... five years or so. lmfao

That's part of the reason I haven't progressed to full cave, honestly. The only thing I'll gain by becoming full cave is the "ability" to do something I basically already do (complex navigation is something I'm not comfortable with underwater, and I'm okay with that - still plenty of cave to see off of one or two navigational decisions) and at the cost of probably $2k by the time I add in travel/lodging, gas fills, tuition, whatever other equipment I need, etc.

Some days I'm okay with certain dives and other days I'm not... I don't tend to NOT listen to my body when it's telling me to stop short of a certain point/limit.
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8/20/2022 12:59:01 PM EDT
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Only like... five years or so. lmfao

That's part of the reason I haven't progressed to full cave, honestly. The only thing I'll gain by becoming full cave is the "ability" to do something I basically already do (complex navigation is something I'm not comfortable with underwater, and I'm okay with that - still plenty of cave to see off of one or two navigational decisions) and at the cost of probably $2k by the time I add in travel/lodging, gas fills, tuition, whatever other equipment I need, etc.

Some days I'm okay with certain dives and other days I'm not... I don't tend to NOT listen to my body when it's telling me to stop short of a certain point/limit.
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My cave diving is now greatly expanded by having full cave. Since I dive all winter at the WI mine and the instructor is always there, she WILL know what you’re doing. You definitely follow your cert guidelines. Now I get to go further back on the main guideline, hopefully to the end so I can see the cool ore cart(s).
"They know what shipwrecks are, for out of sight of land, however inland, they have drowned full many a midnight ship with all its shrieking crew." - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, 1851, on the Great Lakes
8/21/2022 7:51:16 AM EDT
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Only like... five years or so. lmfao

That's part of the reason I haven't progressed to full cave, honestly. The only thing I'll gain by becoming full cave is the "ability" to do something I basically already do (complex navigation is something I'm not comfortable with underwater, and I'm okay with that - still plenty of cave to see off of one or two navigational decisions) and at the cost of probably $2k by the time I add in travel/lodging, gas fills, tuition, whatever other equipment I need, etc.

Some days I'm okay with certain dives and other days I'm not... I don't tend to NOT listen to my body when it's telling me to stop short of a certain point/limit.
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Want to know how many traverses and circuits I did when I became full cave? Zero!

I did mine initial cave cert thru NAUI which put you at the apprentice level with no expiration date. I was diving 1-3 trips a week for a few years before I finally went full cave. I think I had close to 650 dives at that point.

Shortly after I did my initial NAUI cert I did my AN/DP course so I was pretty much set for most anything you’re likely to encounter in cave country save for the obvious like Eagles Nest and the WKPP.

Look, when I woke up this morning I had no plans to be sexy, but shit happens!
8/25/2022 1:40:07 PM EDT
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Diving with my WI friends this weekend at a small lake there. First time diving steels and drysuit in a month. Water is so warm (low 70s) that I’ll just have thin base layer under drysuit.
"They know what shipwrecks are, for out of sight of land, however inland, they have drowned full many a midnight ship with all its shrieking crew." - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, 1851, on the Great Lakes
8/27/2022 2:30:42 AM EDT
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Want to know how many traverses and circuits I did when I became full cave? Zero!

I did mine initial cave cert thru NAUI which put you at the apprentice level with no expiration date. I was diving 1-3 trips a week for a few years before I finally went full cave. I think I had close to 650 dives at that point.

Shortly after I did my initial NAUI cert I did my AN/DP course so I was pretty much set for most anything you’re likely to encounter in cave country save for the obvious like Eagles Nest and the WKPP.

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The way I look at it is the same way it was taught to me: there's so much to do, and see, on the main line (or maybe within one jump) that I could probably spend the first 1000 dives checking it all out and not see everything... most people just want to have the ability to say they went to X spot in the cave, but honestly, I don't care. Even a DPV would just make me get to places I could easily swim to, faster, leaving me with more gas to explore before I hit thirds and exit. I'm lame. I've become a bit more cautious than I used to be - guess now that I'm married I finally have a reason to stick around, or maybe another 5-6 years of age makes you more careful. Who knows.

Either way, I'm pretty much over COVID now I believe (symptoms are really just the same leftover fatigue and occasional dry cough that I had last year when I caught it), so my buddy and I are gonna test the Blacktips out in the Rainbow River on Sunday morning early. Plan is to scooter upriver to the nice sandy training spot where American Pro and other operators drop their OW classes, maybe run some reels or something, then drift/scooter back to where we put in (KP Hole). Just to make sure they're weighted/trimmed properly before we go to south FL.

Hoping that next weekend we can go down to Palm Beach/Broward and dive Blue Heron Bridge and maybe the SS Copenhagen, then head back. He doesn't want to do any boat dives and I don't really feel like paying for a charter (or doing anything near 100 feet deep just yet, after being sick the last two weeks... just in case I have equalization issues and have to sit out).
"They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
8/28/2022 10:34:14 PM EDT
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Update: I was not as decongested as I thought. My head kinda feels like it's in a vice now, and today's adventure had me almost fall asleep when I finally got back close to my house. Came inside, laid down, connected my Perdix to my phone to download the dive info and promptly fell asleep for like 2.5 hours

We had planned to basically snorkel upriver (using the DPVs and towing a dive flag)... first off, the dive flag I have sucks donkey balls. It's a two-piece design and the flag slips over the top... which means every time he went underwater more than five feet or so, the flag would dip under the surface and be dragged off the stick by the current. So I pretty much spent half my time going up-river, swerving around catching the flag before it hit the bottom and re-affixing it to the stick. Finally we found a shallow spot to stand up and cut some line off a reel and tied it down so it wouldn't go anywhere, but there is no way in hell I'd take that flag to Blue Heron Bridge or off the beach at all... so, guess we're spending $40-50 to get one that sits on a cigar style float or a giant car-tire sized circular float. If I scooter upriver again I definitely want one of those two styles vs. what I've got.

Took me three minutes to be able to descend to 20 feet, once we got to where we were going, but I had almost no issues equalizing on the way back up. Normally I can just wiggle my jaw and equalize my sinuses/ears, so clearly I still had some shit stopped up in my head. Got my XDeep set up a little bit better while in the shallows, but I still need to adjust my tank bands and leashes. Definitely ordering a longer left tank/short hose for my necklaced second stage - it was way better than the dive at Hunter Springs when I first tested the DPV out, but still a few inches too short. Not sure if I'd just put up with that for all these years, or if I've got one a bit longer stashed somewhere in one of my Rubbermaid totes of spares and just grabbed what I thought was the right one, when I was re-assembling my sidemount setup after diving single-tank last fall in the Keys.

Kind of want to put 9" SPG hoses on as well, instead of 6". Would make it easier to look at them now that I dive gauges-down instead of lollipopped like I used to.

Overall, a very fun time. We were in the water for a total of about 4 hours, with 74 minutes bottom time at the "training spot" we went to. The new 3mil wetsuit I bought yesterday worked pretty well and was easy enough to don/doff, but it doesn't have a flap to cover the zipper on your back when it's zipped all the way up - I feel like this might eventually make it try to un-zip on me at some point, but it didn't today.

I also accidentally drove the scooter straight up my buddy's ass when he stopped in front of me on the way upriver, and I wasn't paying attention. lmfao
"They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
8/29/2022 7:11:07 AM EDT
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@FloridaHunter07

I never lollipopped my SPGs SM. Either ran them down the tank (open water dives) or two transmitters. The latter is much more convenient for cave diving.
"They know what shipwrecks are, for out of sight of land, however inland, they have drowned full many a midnight ship with all its shrieking crew." - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, 1851, on the Great Lakes
8/29/2022 11:18:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Marie:
@FloridaHunter07

I never lollipopped my SPGs SM. Either ran them down the tank (open water dives) or two transmitters. The latter is much more convenient for cave diving.
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I just can't bring myself to do transmitters in an overhead environment - in God I trust, everything else gets brass n' glass

Gonna do some figuring and place an order from DGX today for the stuff I figured out that I needed yesterday, in hopes that we end up going to South Florida this weekend. Only real determining factors would be if my buddy has to work, or something happens with me and my symptoms return.

Also finally found my lumbar/shoulder plates for the DECO minimalist harness I wanted to build in 2018... so I'm ordering more webbing to build that and probably test it out in the pool on Thursday night before we go down. Having something that's just plain webbing with a couple hard weights threaded in or in pouches, and that 20lb MSR-style bladder makes a super lightweight travel setup that would still allow me to dive sidemount anywhere they rent aluminum tanks, if diving is not the sole purpose of the trip (say, a cruise or vacation with my wife). I'd like to take the time one day and figure out how to balance a single AL80 on it as well so I can just hop in somewhere if I see something interesting
"They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
8/29/2022 11:29:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By floridahunter07:

I just can't bring myself to do transmitters in an overhead environment - in God I trust, everything else gets brass n' glass

Gonna do some figuring and place an order from DGX today for the stuff I figured out that I needed yesterday, in hopes that we end up going to South Florida this weekend. Only real determining factors would be if my buddy has to work, or something happens with me and my symptoms return.

Also finally found my lumbar/shoulder plates for the DECO minimalist harness I wanted to build in 2018... so I'm ordering more webbing to build that and probably test it out in the pool on Thursday night before we go down. Having something that's just plain webbing with a couple hard weights threaded in or in pouches, and that 20lb MSR-style bladder makes a super lightweight travel setup that would still allow me to dive sidemount anywhere they rent aluminum tanks, if diving is not the sole purpose of the trip (say, a cruise or vacation with my wife). I'd like to take the time one day and figure out how to balance a single AL80 on it as well so I can just hop in somewhere if I see something interesting
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I wouldn’t expect to dive SM a lot of places. From reports on SB, lots of dive ops in the tropics absolutely refuse to allow it.
"They know what shipwrecks are, for out of sight of land, however inland, they have drowned full many a midnight ship with all its shrieking crew." - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, 1851, on the Great Lakes
8/29/2022 12:53:22 PM EDT
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I wouldn’t expect to dive SM a lot of places. From reports on SB, lots of dive ops in the tropics absolutely refuse to allow it.
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I might take the backplate and wing, but I'd probably be more tempted to say "okay, I won't be spending my money with you guys then" and not give them my business. That's the kind of thing I'd research before picking a destination, too. I can't stand the "cattle car" method of operation, no matter whether it's diving related or not. My entire sidemount setup, as envisioned, would take up less space than a gallon jug of water in my luggage and probably weigh about the same, sans fins... can't say the same for my BPW.
"They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
8/29/2022 9:32:24 PM EDT
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I wouldn’t expect to dive SM a lot of places. From reports on SB, lots of dive ops in the tropics absolutely refuse to allow it.
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They are probably only set up to deal with 80s and don't want you using two when everyone else only gets one.
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8/29/2022 10:14:40 PM EDT
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Forgot to post this:

Mooching around in the cavern zone at Nohoch. Was so glad to finally have good video of by much improved frog kick.

"They know what shipwrecks are, for out of sight of land, however inland, they have drowned full many a midnight ship with all its shrieking crew." - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, 1851, on the Great Lakes
8/29/2022 10:16:47 PM EDT
[#49]
This is us coming up from a dive at Tajma Ha. My light is the one sort of bouncing around as I’ve got the reel.

Coming up from a dive - Tajma Ha
"They know what shipwrecks are, for out of sight of land, however inland, they have drowned full many a midnight ship with all its shrieking crew." - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, 1851, on the Great Lakes
8/30/2022 8:42:21 PM EDT
[#50]
Maybe good news. Had a 9/16 ship date for CCR. Found out today instructor is trying to get it delivered by the 16th. If that happens and my classmate from MN can make it, class starts weekend of 17th/18th.
"They know what shipwrecks are, for out of sight of land, however inland, they have drowned full many a midnight ship with all its shrieking crew." - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, 1851, on the Great Lakes

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