M1337 3d Printed Gatling Gun in Beta (Page 6 of 9)
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I found Chinn's volume 5 of the machinegun available on archive.org. Actually all 5 volumes are there. This link is applicable. https://archive.org/details/TheMachineGunVolume5ByGeorgeMChinn/page/n79/mode/2up |
WhyTanFox : "the world is exponentially more complicated every decade, yet at the same time it has become increasingly simple to demonstrate your ignorance to a large audience. "
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Originally Posted By belted_guns: Because I can, i tested getting a metal printed bolt. It works. I am gonna get 5 more. Now I am going to work on the firing pin assembly. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256915/1000018337_jpg-3584086.JPG ooo thats sexy as all get out |
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Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty: Where did you guys get your metal parts printed? I need to get the b3 cocking ramp made. I am using this Chinese company. In3dtec.com I got the bolt carrier and cam pin done for about $60 each out of 316stainless glass beaded and polished. I think that is a pretty decent price. |
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No, I haven't really worked on it. Found my micro-lathe doesn't have the power to turn the bolts down like I wanted. And the private property I was going to shoot this on got sold. Other than functional tweaking, all I should need to do is making the bolts/firing pins and cam pins. But I have felt no motivation to do so as I don't know where I would shoot it. |
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Originally Posted By Postal0311: No, I haven't really worked on it. Found my micro-lathe doesn't have the power to turn the bolts down like I wanted. And the private property I was going to shoot this on got sold. Other than functional tweaking, all I should need to do is making the bolts/firing pins and cam pins. But I have felt no motivation to do so as I don't know where I would shoot it. @postal0311 I hear ya. I am waiting on the bolt carrier (which i am having printed out of polished stainless steel, and Nopal's striker set.) I also agree with you on the where to shoot. If we had not moved "to the TX country" I probably wouldn't have started this. We used to live in an HOA. I am probably about 30 days out from test firing mine. My long term objective is to re-design the delinker for M27 links. It gives me some mental fun on the design. If it ever finishes. |
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Originally Posted By efxguy: Sorry, a little off topic, but are there any plans or anyone working on a pistol caliber version? Of course, in light of the expense to fun ratio, .22 would be the hot ticket. Well, I can dream, right? True, but since we do not have the design files and only the print files, it will require a 100% ground up redesign, from scratch. Nopal's ability to design, model, and test, is exceptionally remarkable. All done inside an animation only modeling program. Which does not even have a stp export function. |
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Originally Posted By belted_guns: True, but since we do not have the design files and only the print files, it will require a 100% ground up redesign, from scratch. Nopal's ability to design, model, and test, is exceptionally remarkable. All done inside an animation only modeling program. Which does not even have a stp export function. Originally Posted By belted_guns: Originally Posted By efxguy: Sorry, a little off topic, but are there any plans or anyone working on a pistol caliber version? Of course, in light of the expense to fun ratio, .22 would be the hot ticket. Well, I can dream, right? True, but since we do not have the design files and only the print files, it will require a 100% ground up redesign, from scratch. Nopal's ability to design, model, and test, is exceptionally remarkable. All done inside an animation only modeling program. Which does not even have a stp export function. I guess I may have to satisfy my retirtement project dreams with one of those .22 machinist drawings sets sold in the back of magazines. |
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Originally Posted By efxguy: There is a ton of talent to be able to design even in CAD programs, much respect to Nopal. I guess I may have to satisfy my retirtement project dreams with one of those .22 machinist drawings sets sold in the back of magazines. Haha I remember those ads, along with the great shotguns news newspaper. Used to spend hours digging through all that opportunity. |
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Nopel agreed to an interview for an article on Thetruthaboutguns. I've been following the m1337 for a while, absolutely love what nopel is doing. I need one of these on my Hilux! If any of you printers are in NW Oregon and need a private test range for yours, HMU |
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Originally Posted By withoutremorse42: Nopel agreed to an interview for an article on Thetruthaboutguns. I've been following the m1337 for a while, absolutely love what nopel is doing. I need one of these on my Hilux! If any of you printers are in NW Oregon and need a private test range for yours, HMU Is the interview available or forthcoming. I am close to being able to live fire mine. But still having an issue with carriers/bolts randomly locking up. |
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Anyone else having random lockups of the rotating mechanism and carrier/bolts seemingly to lockup? @jestertoo @fat_mcnasty @postal0311 I have found, trying different things, that it occurs 100% if I have the gun in a vertical up with barrels pointing up. It will rotate around and then one carrier assembly, randomly, will hard lock to rotation in the clockwise and a different position in the counter clockwise. If I then turn the gatling so it is sitting vertical, on the barrels, then rotated, I can "unlock" the jam. Is this happening to anyone else? Picture of the assembly sans any strikers. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By belted_guns: Anyone else having random lockups of the rotating mechanism and carrier/bolts seemingly to lockup? I had a similar issue. I tried one bolt/carrier group at a time until I figured out which one it was. Then I slightly rotated the barrel in the cluster clamp slightly one way or the other until it quit doing it. I have all my bolts/carriers numbered to the cluster so that they all stay aligned. |
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I blew apart the "long" muzzle ring, and didn't really like the shorter muzzle ring. BUT I'm kind of digging this 
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WhyTanFox : "the world is exponentially more complicated every decade, yet at the same time it has become increasingly simple to demonstrate your ignorance to a large audience. "
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Originally Posted By belted_guns: Anyone else having random lockups of the rotating mechanism and carrier/bolts seemingly to lockup? @jestertoo @fat_mcnasty @postal0311 I have found, trying different things, that it occurs 100% if I have the gun in a vertical up with barrels pointing up. It will rotate around and then one carrier assembly, randomly, will hard lock to rotation in the clockwise and a different position in the counter clockwise. If I then turn the gatling so it is sitting vertical, on the barrels, then rotated, I can "unlock" the jam. Is this happening to anyone else? Picture of the assembly sans any strikers. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256915/1000019213_jpg-3609184.JPG yup fighting the same thing, I'm swapping to a 1mm dia wire spring. I'm thinking the 1.5mm is just a bit much and causing the bolt to lift and jam the bolt bearing into the side of the track. Look into the receiver and check right in front of the removable ramp. |
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Boogaloo side quest: Drink so much Monster energy and vodka you think your 1999 Camry is a time travelling Delorean and commit fashion crimes while shouting gag me with a spoon and totally way, way too often.
Boogaloo side quest: Drink so much Monster energy and vodka you think your 1999 Camry is a time travelling Delorean and commit fashion crimes while shouting gag me with a spoon and totally way, way too often.
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Originally Posted By belted_guns: Anyone else having random lockups of the rotating mechanism and carrier/bolts seemingly to lockup? @jestertoo @fat_mcnasty @postal0311 I have found, trying different things, that it occurs 100% if I have the gun in a vertical up with barrels pointing up. It will rotate around and then one carrier assembly, randomly, will hard lock to rotation in the clockwise and a different position in the counter clockwise. If I then turn the gatling so it is sitting vertical, on the barrels, then rotated, I can "unlock" the jam. Is this happening to anyone else? Picture of the assembly sans any strikers. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256915/1000019213_jpg-3609184.JPG What did the printed bolts set you back? And I have a spare stainless steel ramp if some one needs one. |
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Boogaloo side quest: Drink so much Monster energy and vodka you think your 1999 Camry is a time travelling Delorean and commit fashion crimes while shouting gag me with a spoon and totally way, way too often.
Boogaloo side quest: Drink so much Monster energy and vodka you think your 1999 Camry is a time travelling Delorean and commit fashion crimes while shouting gag me with a spoon and totally way, way too often.
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I found the cause of the semi random crank lockups. I was testing using carriers with uncut bolts, uncut fire pins, and no strikers. I did not want to accidentally fire a round. The lockups occur when the barrels are pointed up and the fire pins slide back far enough to let the cam pin turn. This will randomly catch going forward on part of the bolt assembly. See the picture. Attached File The cure is simply to use cut bolts, fire pins, and strikers. To make sure I can test the cycling I am going to use pins with the front ground off so no way to touch the back of a round. I will let you know how it goes. Oh, and I ordered and will have next week the Aluminum front spindle I had printed. I am slowly ordering the parts made from metal. The next set will be the clutch parts. That is a design that hates any variance. |
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Originally Posted By jestertoo: I blew apart the "long" muzzle ring, and didn't really like the shorter muzzle ring. BUT I'm kind of digging this https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/106939/PXL_20250815_211151375__1_-3609386.jpg I like that. I am videoing my first live fire. Part of me wants to see if I blow up the long front, but it makes more sense to do what you did just so I can at least see if it cranks without worrying about blowing the front. Then after it works, definitely video slomo the front destruction. Thanks for showing me. I am going to copy you. |
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Hey, no more barrel locks. Got the bolts and pins cut and installed. This set of pins are to test feeding and function and have the pin ends ground off so no touchy the live round testing. Kind of neat hearing the strikers firing. With metal carriers and such total weight is up 31.5 lbs. Attached File |
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Got the AL front spindle today and installed it into the delinker. No more double feeds and jams. Tested a 42 round set. Easy crank, consistent spool. Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By belted_guns: I found the cause of the semi random crank lockups. I was testing using carriers with uncut bolts, uncut fire pins, and no strikers. I did not want to accidentally fire a round. The lockups occur when the barrels are pointed up and the fire pins slide back far enough to let the cam pin turn. This will randomly catch going forward on part of the bolt assembly. See the picture. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256915/1000019267_jpg-3611076.JPG The cure is simply to use cut bolts, fire pins, and strikers. To make sure I can test the cycling I am going to use pins with the front ground off so no way to touch the back of a round. I will let you know how it goes. Oh, and I ordered and will have next week the Aluminum front spindle I had printed. I am slowly ordering the parts made from metal. The next set will be the clutch parts. That is a design that hates any variance. Just spitballing here, would there be any way to use a bolt carrier cotter pin to retain the firing pin and bolt like it does in an AR15? I would be nice to be able to tip the gun up for storage or transport without the bolts locking it up. |
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Originally Posted By BusaBoy2009: Just spitballing here, would there be any way to use a bolt carrier cotter pin to retain the firing pin and bolt like it does in an AR15? I would be nice to be able to tip the gun up for storage or transport without the bolts locking it up. If you assemble the bolts completely, they don't lockup. His was locking up because he didn't have all the parts in them. |
WhyTanFox : "the world is exponentially more complicated every decade, yet at the same time it has become increasingly simple to demonstrate your ignorance to a large audience. "
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Originally Posted By belted_guns: Is the interview available or forthcoming. I am close to being able to live fire mine. But still having an issue with carriers/bolts randomly locking up. Forthcoming. It's waiting on me really, nopal is ready. I'm catching up on a backlog of articles since I went commercial fishing for the summer, and need to finalize a list of quality questions |
I thought this thread was going to be about this project that I just saw an ad for.  https://moab-kit.gatlingtommy.com/  |
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Originally Posted By withoutremorse42: im really curious what it would cost to send each of the 3d printed pieces to chyna to have them made from steel Or maybe lost PLA cast some of the large pieces out aluminum. |
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This is bud light marketing, meets Ocean Gate engineering with Sig public relations level of quality. -RC03
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Finally got everything together and tested. Found a good spec for springs that will fire all types of ammo: 855, tracer, 193, 223. OD0.420 x H1.250 x dia0.048in. @fat_mcnasty @jestertoo Attached File |
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Originally Posted By belted_guns: Finally got everything together and tested. Found a good spec for springs that will fire all types of ammo: 855, tracer, 193, 223. OD0.420 x H1.250 x dia0.048in. @fat_mcnasty @jestertoo https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256915/1000019635_jpg-3626754.JPG You sir are a gentleman and a scholar, posts like this are why arfcom needs a like button. |
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Originally Posted By withoutremorse42: im really curious what it would cost to send each of the 3d printed pieces to chyna to have them made from steel I had the striker cam printed in cobalt-chrome (harder than stainless, cheaper than titanium) and for funziez I put the model for the main housing in there and it came to $3586 for one in stainless, $7465 for one in titanium. This was before shipping, however if you get multiples of a piece the price drops due to the setup being a chunk of the cost, so if one was to order 2 titanium receivers, the cost drops to a very affordable $6819/ea
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Originally Posted By BusaBoy2009: You sir are a gentleman and a scholar, posts like this are why arfcom needs a like button. Originally Posted By BusaBoy2009: Originally Posted By belted_guns: Finally got everything together and tested. Found a good spec for springs that will fire all types of ammo: 855, tracer, 193, 223. OD0.420 x H1.250 x dia0.048in. @fat_mcnasty @jestertoo https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256915/1000019635_jpg-3626754.JPG You sir are a gentleman and a scholar, posts like this are why arfcom needs a like button. https://msdspring.com/stocksprings/pndetails.asp?pn=C420-1250-21250 Anyone want to go in on a set? |
WhyTanFox : "the world is exponentially more complicated every decade, yet at the same time it has become increasingly simple to demonstrate your ignorance to a large audience. "
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Originally Posted By Postal0311: I finally made my first complete bolt carrier group. Only 5 more to go. Excellent. They are tedious. You will need fairly strong springs. I also made a set of dummy fire pins so I could work on the feeding issues without worrying about setting a round off. Of make a set of dummy rounds. |
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Originally Posted By jestertoo: https://msdspring.com/stocksprings/pndetails.asp?pn=C420-1250-21250 Anyone want to go in on a set? I bought them in bulk as it was the same cost as buying a much smaller amount. According to the tracking number I should have them in hand early next week. If anyone wants a set of 6 I can do that for $20 plus a small USPS envelope and the ride which should be less than half what they want for them. Anyone interested can PM me. |
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I made a rail kit for my 1337. If anyone wants the step or alibre file let me know. Attached File Attached File Also you can sort of see the stainless Safe ramp switch. With the heavy springs, you are gonna want a hard ramp switch. |
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Originally Posted By belted_guns: I made a rail kit for my 1337. If anyone wants the step or alibre file let me know. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256915/1000020069_jpg-3635700.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256915/1000020072_jpg-3635701.JPG Also you can sort of see the stainless Safe ramp switch. With the heavy springs, you are gonna want a hard ramp switch. That's cool! I will take the step file if you don't mind |
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Originally Posted By BusaBoy2009: That's cool! I will take the step file if you don't mind Originally Posted By BusaBoy2009: Originally Posted By belted_guns: I made a rail kit for my 1337. If anyone wants the step or alibre file let me know. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256915/1000020069_jpg-3635700.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256915/1000020072_jpg-3635701.JPG Also you can sort of see the stainless Safe ramp switch. With the heavy springs, you are gonna want a hard ramp switch. That's cool! I will take the step file if you don't mind It will be up on thingiverse.com tomorrow. I will report here when it is live. |
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Originally Posted By BusaBoy2009: Has anyone found a printable feed chute link that could work with these? Answered my own question, here is a link: Feed chute Print at 98-99% scale for correct dimensions to fit the M1337 feed opening |
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Originally Posted By belted_guns: It will be up on thingiverse.com tomorrow. I will report here when it is live. Originally Posted By belted_guns: Originally Posted By BusaBoy2009: Originally Posted By belted_guns: I made a rail kit for my 1337. If anyone wants the step or alibre file let me know. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256915/1000020069_jpg-3635700.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256915/1000020072_jpg-3635701.JPG Also you can sort of see the stainless Safe ramp switch. With the heavy springs, you are gonna want a hard ramp switch. That's cool! I will take the step file if you don't mind It will be up on thingiverse.com tomorrow. I will report here when it is live. Here is the1337 Rail mount thingiverse link to the stp, stl files. You should be able to open the step file and make direct edits, or just print it.Attached File |
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Originally Posted By belted_guns: Here is the1337 Rail mount thingiverse link to the stp, stl files. You should be able to open the step file and make direct edits, or just print it.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256915/1000020113_jpg-3637237.JPG 
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Originally Posted By Postal0311: Finally finished mine. Passed a function check and fed and ejected dummy rounds just fine. Nice. When you live fire, try 6 rd belts to see if your fire pins are firing all six barrels. The delinker fully loaded is around 12rds. That is where I am randomly having issues. 6rds seems fine. |