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Originally Posted By tktm2001: @Bazmancrash Have you contacted the Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus? Seems like they would want to hear about your situation: https://gunowners.mn/our-programs/legal-action/ "REPORTING AN INFRINGEMENT Are you aware of a governmental entity that is infringing upon your Second Amendment rights? Contact us right away. We’ll follow up with you within a few days and may choose to take further action if warranted. [email protected] " Contacted. Contacted the FPC also which I'm a member. Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus has contacted me back and is working with my legal team. |
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Originally Posted By Bazmancrash: UPDATE 08/03/22 So apparently someone else is going through the same shit in a different county. No Crime. Ar-15 and AR-10 80s. Blows my mind. For anyone here that knows, what a man's recourse for getting taken for a ride for something that they literally can't charge you for? |
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Originally Posted By SuperStormBryan: For anyone here that knows, what a man's recourse for getting taken for a ride for something that they literally can't charge you for? Attached File |
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I wish you luck. Our state AG seems to have a hard on for this stuff https://www.ag.state.mn.us/Office/Communications/2022/07/11_GhostGuns.asp |
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Originally Posted By smoke14me: My sentiment is the same. If you need any help get it set up and I will gladly throw in what I can. Seriously it means a lot. I haven't reached out yet. I work for a living and save I don't do amazing but do good enough to live. Like I said my wife stays home we have 4 kids I'm the sole income so this one fucking hurt but o well. We are survivors. 3 weeks out for court. Anyone very knowledgeable on gun law that can reach out to me? |
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Originally Posted By Bazmancrash: Seriously it means a lot. I haven't reached out yet. I work for a living and save I don't do amazing but do good enough to live. Like I said my wife stays home we have 4 kids I'm the sole income so this one fucking hurt but o well. We are survivors. 3 weeks out for court. Anyone very knowledgeable on gun law that can reach out to me? Originally Posted By Bazmancrash: Originally Posted By smoke14me: My sentiment is the same. If you need any help get it set up and I will gladly throw in what I can. Seriously it means a lot. I haven't reached out yet. I work for a living and save I don't do amazing but do good enough to live. Like I said my wife stays home we have 4 kids I'm the sole income so this one fucking hurt but o well. We are survivors. 3 weeks out for court. Anyone very knowledgeable on gun law that can reach out to me? I seem to remember Nolo defending a Minnesotan at one point. @NoloContendere |
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Originally Posted By BLKVooDoo: I seem to remember Nolo defending a Minnesotan at one point. @NoloContendere I don’t remember if it was MN or not, but I’ve been known to travel around doing stuff. |
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Originally Posted By NoloContendere: I don’t remember if it was MN or not, but I’ve been known to travel around doing stuff. Originally Posted By NoloContendere: Originally Posted By BLKVooDoo: I seem to remember Nolo defending a Minnesotan at one point. @NoloContendere I don’t remember if it was MN or not, but I’ve been known to travel around doing stuff. Yes, indeed you have. I think at a minimum, your thoughts on this, maybe shared with OP and not necessarily the world might be welcome. If you have the time, I am sure a lot of us would appreciate it. |
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Originally Posted By PhilipPeake: Yes, indeed you have. I think at a minimum, your thoughts on this, maybe shared with OP and not necessarily the world might be welcome. If you have the time, I am sure a lot of us would appreciate it. You can dm me if you want. Court next week. Haven't heard shit from my lawyer. Not reaching out either though. |
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Motion to Dismiss was filed. We met with the Judge and the dweb prosecutor (looks like he's never even fired a weapon) we have four weeks to prove I didn't violate section (3) of 609.667. Thanks all again. If anyone has any legit legal advice dm me. Other than that I hope all is well and God Bless. I can't wait to GTFO out of Minnesota hahahha. |
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Originally Posted By Bazmancrash: Motion to Dismiss was filed. We met with the Judge and the dweb prosecutor (looks like he's never even fired a weapon) we have four weeks to prove I didn't violate section (3) of 609.667. Thanks all again. If anyone has any legit legal advice dm me. Other than that I hope all is well and God Bless. I can't wait to GTFO out of Minnesota hahahha. "As used in this section, 'serial number or other identification' means the serial number and other information required under united States code, title 26, section 5842, for the identification of firearms" They're referencing federal serialization requirements. Take that federal definition and the latest ATF "regulation" (section h-4) that SPECIFICALLY states that privately made firearms do not require serial numbers, and rub their noses in it. That federal code only applies to manufacturers, and you're not a manufacturer. You haven't obliterated or removed any numbers, correct? . |
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Originally Posted By jos51700: "As used in this section, 'serial number or other identification' means the serial number and other information required under united States code, title 26, section 5842, for the identification of firearms" They're referencing federal serialization requirements. Take that federal definition and the latest ATF "regulation" (section h-4) that SPECIFICALLY states that privately made firearms do not require serial numbers, and rub their noses in it. That federal code only applies to manufacturers, and you're not a manufacturer. You haven't obliterated or removed any numbers, correct? . Originally Posted By jos51700: Originally Posted By Bazmancrash: Motion to Dismiss was filed. We met with the Judge and the dweb prosecutor (looks like he's never even fired a weapon) we have four weeks to prove I didn't violate section (3) of 609.667. Thanks all again. If anyone has any legit legal advice dm me. Other than that I hope all is well and God Bless. I can't wait to GTFO out of Minnesota hahahha. "As used in this section, 'serial number or other identification' means the serial number and other information required under united States code, title 26, section 5842, for the identification of firearms" They're referencing federal serialization requirements. Take that federal definition and the latest ATF "regulation" (section h-4) that SPECIFICALLY states that privately made firearms do not require serial numbers, and rub their noses in it. That federal code only applies to manufacturers, and you're not a manufacturer. You haven't obliterated or removed any numbers, correct? . Make that: Federally Licensed Manufacturers. You many have manufactured the gun, but you did not do so for profit, with the intention to sell, so no Federal License is required, and so no serial number is required. The whole point of the serial number is to ensure that manufacturers pay the tax on each item they produce. |
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Originally Posted By PhilipPeake: Make that: Federally Licensed Manufacturers. You many have manufactured the gun, but you did not do so for profit, with the intention to sell, so no Federal License is required, and so no serial number is required. Originally Posted By PhilipPeake: Make that: Federally Licensed Manufacturers. You many have manufactured the gun, but you did not do so for profit, with the intention to sell, so no Federal License is required, and so no serial number is required. Technically there are requirements for manufacturers which are separate from those of makers (although in some instances they're the same requirements). A person could be an unlicensed manufacturer (which is illegal) and have violated something required of manufactures, which OP didn't do, because he isn't a manufacturer. The whole point of the serial number is to ensure that manufacturers pay the tax on each item they produce. Private citizens are not subject to FAET when the firearms are being made for personal use (which is the only reason they should be making any). |
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Originally Posted By Bazmancrash: Motion to Dismiss was filed. We met with the Judge and the dweb prosecutor (looks like he's never even fired a weapon) we have four weeks to prove I didn't violate section (3) of 609.667. Thanks all again. If anyone has any legit legal advice dm me. Other than that I hope all is well and God Bless. I can't wait to GTFO out of Minnesota hahahha. Thanks for the update. I hope your motion is granted and this all goes away quickly for you. |
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Originally Posted By MemeWarfare: Thanks for the update. I hope your motion is granted and this all goes away quickly for you. This is a bunch of bullshit brought forth by guys who obviously don't know what they're talking about. Did they arrest you for this or not? If you were arrested, you should bring a 1983 civil suit against them. |
| Well I'm doing alot of leg work for my Lawyer here building up a nice document, lets just say there is a quite a few false statements from the detective to the prosecuting attorney in the statement of probable cause. I wish I could share more detail. Once again thanks for all the support. I will share my write up with all the legality regarding privately manufactured firearms and direct links to opinions and laws for reference. Lets just say if you do a homebuild just serialize it. Only reason I never did was because I was under the belief that the law up here would understand what the actual law is. Going forward will be serializing anything I brew up to avoid future headaches. |
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Originally Posted By Bazmancrash: Well I'm doing alot of leg work for my Lawyer here building up a nice document, lets just say there is a quite a few false statements from the detective to the prosecuting attorney in the statement of probable cause. I wish I could share more detail. Once again thanks for all the support. I will share my write up with all the legality regarding privately manufactured firearms and direct links to opinions and laws for reference. Lets just say if you do a homebuild just serialize it. Only reason I never did was because I was under the belief that the law up here would understand what the actual law is. Going forward will be serializing anything I brew up to avoid future headaches. I see a lot of the small plates on the p80 glocks having the serial number 1 or 12345 engraved on them. LOL. It’s still going to end up a cluster. |
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Originally Posted By Bazmancrash: So let me ask this. Is engraving by hand with a Dremel allowed or worth it to get a laser engraver involved. I've never seen any government officials measure depth, but they could. I've Dremel-engraved registered HK packs and DIAS.  |
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I’m guessing this is no good then? Attached File |
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Originally Posted By mpdphil: I’m guessing this is no good then? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66729/3F3B8FF7-E9D6-4EBD-9F79-FCE67B9D4866_jpe-2515767.JPG Nope. Serial numbers must be letters and numbers or just numbers, but not just letters. |
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Originally Posted By Former11BRAVO: Did the OP lose his motion and get locked up?  Hopefully not? Edit : last post 9/2, and I guess we can’t see last log-in anymore? |
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Hope O.P. is still in the fight, or better yet those bastards have hoisted the White Flag... Just a question - have you reached out to Gun Owners of America ? They seem to be pretty much the only Gun Rights Organization actually FIGHTING for Gun Rights & Gun Owners. Bigger_Hammer 
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Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: Hope O.P. is still in the fight, or better yet those bastards have hoisted the White Flag... Just a question - have you reached out to Gun Owners of America ? They seem to be pretty much the only Gun Rights Organization actually FIGHTING for Gun Rights & Gun Owners. Bigger_Hammer Any reasonable prosecutor would have just taken the dismissal a month ago at the latest. Once this is over, I'd try to get them to prosecute any sworn officer who committed perjury in this case. |
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@Bazmancrash did that court ruling the other day help you? Ban on guns with serial numbers removed is unconstitutional -U.S. judge https://www.reuters.com/legal/ban-guns-with-serial-numbers-removed-is-unconstitutional-us-judge-2022-10-13/ Red |
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