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Things don’t seem quite where I expected them to be in many fascets. I have been largely disappointed in recent media, from Disclosure Day to The Others. It seems that things have stalled or regressed in many ways. I am interested with the government drops, but it’s too slow of a drip and obviously they are sandbagging. Whistleblower protection is important and moving in the right direction. A whole lot of new and credible people are popping up and filling in pieces. The whole narrative for me has been heavily influenced by Timothy Alberino, who takes a lot of compelling things from history, and some of my favorite authors and speakers like David Jacobs into his theories. Pasulkas latest book seems to think AI is the key to all of this. I had the opportunity to get a pointed question to her during AJ’s interview of her coming up. I hope he selects it as it was one of the top voted questions on the soul. The general zeitgeist is tracking this as a b-story, along with other minor stories like climate change or similar. Some People have a great imterest, but the majority just know it’s a topic and are coming around to the “possible reality” of it. If anything, it’s in the same vane as the Ozone Layer stories of the 80s, or talk about the loss of Honey Bees. Personally, I find i cant keep up with things as well as I used to. Too many long form interviews to try to watch and each is a roll of the dice on a payoff. Jesse Michals and his YOLO style of reporting is the most appealing to me. |
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His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
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His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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There is a good chance that this is actually part of the process. When we think there’s nothing there, that’s when a book like Pasulka’s shows up. That’s actually been a pattern since the Grusch testimony a few years back: an explosive interview or set of comments, then a quiet phase while we disseminate it all, then we make progress until the next big drop (Brown, or Borland, or others) DWP’s issue is, just like Jacques Vallee’s is, that she never comes to any kind of conclusion… but I do find her research compelling. Her incorporation of Arthur C. Clarke’s Childhood’s End is really sticking in my craw. Combine that with prominent people “in the know” saying that shows like Dark and the 3 Body Problem are as close to describing the phenomena as it gets. What’s similar between these stories that would make them say that? I can draw a straight line between Childhood’s End and 3BP: Aliens influence us remotely in both stories before they arrive. In CE the aliens look like demons - that’s a wild twist but let’s roll with it (and weave in the Vance comment about aliens being demons, and don’t forget about the whole Mormon conclave at high levels of government Pasulka talked about in American Cosmic). Then the children all get uploaded to a hive mind. Is the virtual world in 3BP a version of that? (I have only seen the Netflix show, I have the books but have not read them yet). In 3BP we get benefits from the aliens via the VR downloads. For these reasons I also can’t shake the “this is weirder than you could possibly imagine” quote a few of the interviewed people (Elizondo for example) keep saying. Lots of pieces in this jigsaw puzzle to put together… good thing so many of us love puzzles. |
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Originally Posted By sq40: Things don’t seem quite where I expected them to be in many fascets. I have been largely disappointed in recent media, from Disclosure Day to The Others. It seems that things have stalled or regressed in many ways. I am interested with the government drops, but it’s too slow of a drip and obviously they are sandbagging. Whistleblower protection is important and moving in the right direction. A whole lot of new and credible people are popping up and filling in pieces. The whole narrative for me has been heavily influenced by Timothy Alberino, who takes a lot of compelling things from history, and some of my favorite authors and speakers like David Jacobs into his theories. Pasulkas latest book seems to think AI is the key to all of this. I had the opportunity to get a pointed question to her during AJ’s interview of her coming up. I hope he selects it as it was one of the top voted questions on the soul. The general zeitgeist is tracking this as a b-story, along with other minor stories like climate change or similar. Some People have a great imterest, but the majority just know it’s a topic and are coming around to the “possible reality” of it. If anything, it’s in the same vane as the Ozone Layer stories of the 80s, or talk about the loss of Honey Bees. Personally, I find i cant keep up with things as well as I used to. Too many long form interviews to try to watch and each is a roll of the dice on a payoff. Jesse Michals and his YOLO style of reporting is the most appealing to me. Well, as the resident skeptic here, I'd say all of this was expected. --If there is something to the phenomena, it's unlikely anyone is actually holding onto the "truth." --If someone does have actual access to the "truth," they are either financially, culturally, religiously, or physically (their own safety/staying alive and/or out of prison) motivated to keep it a secret. --If someone with access to the "truth" is willing to risk the aforementioned, they'll be discredited and ridiculed. --Most of the people being discredited and ridiculed deserve it, as they don't know fuck all and are in it for the clicks/likes/dollars, and are otherwise full of shit/con artists. --No matter what the circumstances, no .Gov agency anywhere on the planet will revel the "truth." They have too much to lose, whether that be credibility, security, financially, or because the few "in the know" would lose those things. --You will be constantly distracted from the "truth" by media, slow-feed info, world events orchestrated by those in charge who never want the "truth" to see the light of day, etc. ad nauseum. --Those in charge will work to implement AI, Digital ID's and Currency, Social Credit Scores, Mass Surveillance, and a bunch of things I'm forgetting until 1984 is a reality, followed by Animal Farm and Soylent Green, as they hide in their bunkers and wait to "inherit the world," which they don't yet realize won't include them when true AI takes hold. Man, I'm so fucking glad I chose to never have kids. I'll probably be dead in 30 years. Best of luck to the rest of you. I won't be first in the stack, but I'll raise a rifle behind whoever wants to be. Anyone? |
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Originally Posted By Flushdraw: What end result are you wanting? Disclosure? What would that look like to you? Open discussions from our sensemakers who can walk the rest of us through the whole thing. Eric Weinstein was recently read in and had his curiosity satisfied. Do that with his brother Bret (who I’m sure knows what his brother does by now), and a few others like Jesse Michels, Ross Coulthart, George Knapp, plus Sol Foundation types for starters, and start openly talking about the entire thing. It can’t be that hard to put it all together. Despite what Diana Pasulka says, someone out there has least a loose, overarching theory about the whole phenomenon… If I had more spare time I’d feed every shred of current info we can find into a paid AI model and have it organize it as if it was a group like that, then give me a chapter-by-chapter outline and either publish it here, or use that as research to write a “here’s where it all stands in 2026” hypothesis book. And update it yearly. Maybe a couple paid AIs now that I think about it. Grok would be great to compile info from UFO Twitter that could then be fed into another AI… |
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Where am I on all this? I will tell you. I think it is all a intentional misinformation. I have seen some things I can not explain. I think it is possible we have had in history and may still have visitors that are not humans or normal humans. Having said that, I don't think the govt is ever going to give us a straight answer. They polute the real data on purpose. 1. Whistle blower protection is for illegal activity, not classified information. There is no such thing as a whistle blower with or without protection of classified information, the word for that is treason. 2. Congress critters lie all the time, if they say they saw information, it means they were shown something from a third party, so it is still third party information because they never say exactly what they saw. They are being vague on purpose because words have meanings. 3. All of the testimony before congress has been third party information, none of that would be admissible in any court yet they still call it testimony. 4. First it was UFO, now it is UAP. When you want to make statements about something that implies something that is not exactly said legally, you create a new word and imply it means the same thing as the old word but don't actually define the new word. Once the new word ( UFO ) has a generally accepted meaning, you can't use that word anymore without legally lying so you make up a new word and start all over. Hence they talk about UAPs instead of UFOs. Both specifically have the word 'unidentified' in them because they don't claim to know what they are. I intercepted lots of 'Unknowns" back in the day. They were called 'unknowns' until we intercepted them and got eyes on, but not once did anybody ever think they were not terrestrial aircraft. This whole constant 'disclosure' thing for years now, IMO, is nothing more than misinformation on purpose. For some reason the govt wants people to think disclosure of the existence of aliens on earth is coming any day now, yet that any day now time frame has been many many years. If they wanted us to know, they would just make a definitive statement, yet they never have and IMO they never will. They are stringing people along. I have no idea why, but I am sure it has a purpose. |
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Things are going as expected, but then I never expected anything substantial to come out of it. I expected disclosure to be a combination of anti-American forces using our own desire for transparency against us. Create sky high expectations of world changing technology, and then when the truth is disappointing use that as a weapon against the people who actually did the work. Lyin Lou let it slip when he compared it to Epstein. |
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Side ponder after processing more of the Pasulka pod and this whole thread… She talks about the “propaganda” for lack of a better term of how things have worked in this space previously. Like when “Tim Taylor” brought exotic materials to engineers or scientists to reverse-engineer, they So is the very nature of how aliens are portrayed and perceived in our global zeitgeist crucial to whatever is coming next? Is it an attempt to guide our “contact” moment by globally manifesting the next steps for us as a race? As I reread this I know I’m out of my depth and probably coming across with a pseudo-thought. I’m just trying to compile everything and figure out why the information we have received is being brought forth in the way it is by the government, and why private experiencers often have their experiences diluted by government entities “poisoning the well”… Anyway, pushing submit even though I know how this reads. 
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Originally Posted By Mach: Where am I on all this? I will tell you. I think it is all a intentional misinformation. I have seen some things I can not explain. I think it is possible we have had in history and may still have visitors that are not humans or normal humans. Having said that, I don't think the govt is ever going to give us a straight answer. They polute the real data on purpose. 1. Whistle blower protection is for illegal activity, not classified information. There is no such thing as a whistle blower with or without protection of classified information, the word for that is treason. 2. Congress critters lie all the time, if they say they saw information, it means they were shown something from a third party, so it is still third party information because they never say exactly what they saw. They are being vague on purpose because words have meanings. 3. All of the testimony before congress has been third party information, none of that would be admissible in any court yet they still call it testimony. 4. First it was UFO, now it is UAP. When you want to make statements about something that implies something that is not exactly said legally, you create a new word and imply it means the same thing as the old word but don't actually define the new word. Once the new word ( UFO ) has a generally accepted meaning, you can't use that word anymore without legally lying so you make up a new word and start all over. Hence they talk about UAPs instead of UFOs. Both specifically have the word 'unidentified' in them because they don't claim to know what they are. I intercepted lots of 'Unknowns" back in the day. They were called 'unknowns' until we intercepted them and got eyes on, but not once did anybody ever think they were not terrestrial aircraft. This whole constant 'disclosure' thing for years now, IMO, is nothing more than misinformation on purpose. For some reason the govt wants people to think disclosure of the existence of aliens on earth is coming any day now, yet that any day now time frame has been many many years. If they wanted us to know, they would just make a definitive statement, yet they never have and IMO they never will. They are stringing people along. I have no idea why, but I am sure it has a purpose. I think the government IS stringing us along while taking advantage of the public's known short attention span. Plenty of "look over here"s; the high cost of living, the fiasco in the middle east, lunatics running for elected office, etc. UAP, NHI, etc. are gradually becoming passe. |
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I feel it's more of an embarrassment/face charges kind of thing. If they released a minor batch, they would need to admit driving two people to their suicide if not outright murdered. We just need to start scanning the sky, which isn't difficult using passive radar if you can get a local feed and a reflection feed. Very fast shutter speed required on video/photo, 1 millisecond or faster (1/1000th second to 1/10000th to get no blurring, the little plasmoids are freaky fast). The individual water drops "vanish' and simply become part of the background. Same thing happens with singular small objects, our eyes can't catch them but cameras can. You can be looking at the flying by several times on your daily compute, like 50 ft AGL but moving faster than a bullet without displacing air. It's invisible to you (and why bigfoot is furry  ) I fully admit some are government projects, but there's a good portion that are not, simply no way we had the tech levels needed to do anything like the this prior to 1900s and even going up to the atomic weapon itself. So setting a team of looking at a machine with no seams and a very 'organic" shape, they evntuelly pushed the button to see what happened and stopped and repeated Some probably did what they wanted but also some nasty side effects like hopping out of the atmosphere or something. Either way, if they saw how the engine operated, basically the Alcubierre drive except with a moving mercury for conductors, we need to advance in material science more. Which frustrates me since China is all over metallurgy and e kind of hung up on it with the "if it's noise, smokes, has visible smoke, it must be dismantled" school of thought regarding American manufacturing. Did they shut down large scale steel production because it allowed everyday people to create their own "Flying saucer" sort of thing? The timing seems strange, right in time for Close Encounters of the Third Time. It's like the government wants to come out every decade or two and talks about flying saucers, then refuses questions and it's a blow over single day story. This one could have been another but somebody(ies) they can't control have deadman switches o released if any of a list of people is touched by the .gov. Sad that we need to do that in the US. If the US did not build the craft, then us taking photos of it and drawing what we see shouldn't be a kick in your door and erase all images on your hard drive while intentionally trashing house because they know you are guilty of something kind of event. There has been way to much smoke and fire to believe it's all BS, and I dearly hope the .gov has something that can stop maneuvering hypersonic missiles which were somehow ignored by us until used in the UKR Kerfuffle. I wish that those who have had serious interactions with "Them" be they nordics, hidden government, , didn't need to seek protection for our own government to ask a question, it's like holding your hand up in 3rd grade except it's a teacher that just shoots you if you need to go pee and are not excused because you don't have the need to pee. |
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: Well, as the resident skeptic here, I'd say all of this was expected. --If there is something to the phenomena, it's unlikely anyone is actually holding onto the "truth." --If someone does have actual access to the "truth," they are either financially, culturally, religiously, or physically (their own safety/staying alive and/or out of prison) motivated to keep it a secret. --If someone with access to the "truth" is willing to risk the aforementioned, they'll be discredited and ridiculed. --Most of the people being discredited and ridiculed deserve it, as they don't know fuck all and are in it for the clicks/likes/dollars, and are otherwise full of shit/con artists. --No matter what the circumstances, no .Gov agency anywhere on the planet will revel the "truth." They have too much to lose, whether that be credibility, security, financially, or because the few "in the know" would lose those things. --You will be constantly distracted from the "truth" by media, slow-feed info, world events orchestrated by those in charge who never want the "truth" to see the light of day, etc. ad nauseum. --Those in charge will work to implement AI, Digital ID's and Currency, Social Credit Scores, Mass Surveillance, and a bunch of things I'm forgetting until 1984 is a reality, followed by Animal Farm and Soylent Green, as they hide in their bunkers and wait to "inherit the world," which they don't yet realize won't include them when true AI takes hold. Man, I'm so fucking glad I chose to never have kids. I'll probably be dead in 30 years. Best of luck to the rest of you. I won't be first in the stack, but I'll raise a rifle behind whoever wants to be. Anyone? Being the resident skeptic is a very valuable position here. Be it an injection of logic, or just playing devils advocate, it’s great. I am starting to think no one knows the truth. They may have pieces. But not the whole truth. If Karellen in CE is the exemplar of the deceiver. Lies of omission. A friendly demeanor and it’s all a trap. Maybe that is prophetic allegory. We are fed lies big and small. Red herrings for everything to keep us guessing or unable to logically make a conclusion of what is really going on, like in CE. |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By Flushdraw: What end result are you wanting? Disclosure? What would that look like to you? We have had disclosure. We are simply being slow dripped the details. Clear photos and videos of the entities are my line for satisfaction. I’m not exactly sure why, as the topic is so deep and complex. But just seeing “them” carries a ton of weight in my mind. |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By Mach: Where am I on all this? I will tell you. I think it is all a intentional misinformation. I have seen some things I can not explain. I think it is possible we have had in history and may still have visitors that are not humans or normal humans. Having said that, I don't think the govt is ever going to give us a straight answer. They polute the real data on purpose. 1. Whistle blower protection is for illegal activity, not classified information. There is no such thing as a whistle blower with or without protection of classified information, the word for that is treason. 2. Congress critters lie all the time, if they say they saw information, it means they were shown something from a third party, so it is still third party information because they never say exactly what they saw. They are being vague on purpose because words have meanings. 3. All of the testimony before congress has been third party information, none of that would be admissible in any court yet they still call it testimony. 4. First it was UFO, now it is UAP. When you want to make statements about something that implies something that is not exactly said legally, you create a new word and imply it means the same thing as the old word but don't actually define the new word. Once the new word ( UFO ) has a generally accepted meaning, you can't use that word anymore without legally lying so you make up a new word and start all over. Hence they talk about UAPs instead of UFOs. Both specifically have the word 'unidentified' in them because they don't claim to know what they are. I intercepted lots of 'Unknowns" back in the day. They were called 'unknowns' until we intercepted them and got eyes on, but not once did anybody ever think they were not terrestrial aircraft. This whole constant 'disclosure' thing for years now, IMO, is nothing more than misinformation on purpose. For some reason the govt wants people to think disclosure of the existence of aliens on earth is coming any day now, yet that any day now time frame has been many many years. If they wanted us to know, they would just make a definitive statement, yet they never have and IMO they never will. They are stringing people along. I have no idea why, but I am sure it has a purpose. Originally Posted By jaqufrost: I think quite a bit of the videos released are likely to be EW/spoofing and not real objects. Anyone read into those programs is not going to admit they're government capabilities. Originally Posted By Herc: Things are going as expected, but then I never expected anything substantial to come out of it. I expected disclosure to be a combination of anti-American forces using our own desire for transparency against us. Create sky high expectations of world changing technology, and then when the truth is disappointing use that as a weapon against the people who actually did the work. Lyin Lou let it slip when he compared it to Epstein. All of this. Also, as someone who has experienced some weird shit I can't explain, the only thing I am truly convinced of anymore is that there are things I am just not going to get an answer about. I was heavily invested in all of this from a young age to try and explain things I'd seen or felt, some of it I have discussed here and others I have not, but decades of interest has left me mostly content with conventional explanations misinterpreted for a vast majority of events, and the percentage that is truly explainable, well whoever actually knows has no incentive to tell us. The recent interview with Travis Taylor on The Why Files Basement was a pretty good example. Just listen to what he says about doors constantly being shut when he'd ask a line if questions that made those in the system uncomfortable. I can believe that. They've driven some serious interest in the population about the topic but its like everything else government; lots of painful blue balls. It's hard to feel like we will actually get the whole truth and it makes my general distrust for govt mouth pieces go up. |
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Originally Posted By sq40: We have had disclosure. We are simply being slow dripped the details. Clear photos and videos of the entities are my line for satisfaction. I’m not exactly sure why, as the topic is so deep and complex. But just seeing “them” carries a ton of weight in my mind. Yeah, but how can you believe anything when photorealistic AI pictures exist. If you didn't see it with your own eyes how can you put any weight into it? Id question it myself even then. |
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Originally Posted By Mach: Where am I on all this? I will tell you. I think it is all a intentional misinformation. I have seen some things I can not explain. I think it is possible we have had in history and may still have visitors that are not humans or normal humans. Having said that, I don't think the govt is ever going to give us a straight answer. They polute the real data on purpose. 1. Whistle blower protection is for illegal activity, not classified information. There is no such thing as a whistle blower with or without protection of classified information, the word for that is treason. 2. Congress critters lie all the time, if they say they saw information, it means they were shown something from a third party, so it is still third party information because they never say exactly what they saw. They are being vague on purpose because words have meanings. 3. All of the testimony before congress has been third party information, none of that would be admissible in any court yet they still call it testimony. 4. First it was UFO, now it is UAP. When you want to make statements about something that implies something that is not exactly said legally, you create a new word and imply it means the same thing as the old word but don't actually define the new word. Once the new word ( UFO ) has a generally accepted meaning, you can't use that word anymore without legally lying so you make up a new word and start all over. Hence they talk about UAPs instead of UFOs. Both specifically have the word 'unidentified' in them because they don't claim to know what they are. I intercepted lots of 'Unknowns" back in the day. They were called 'unknowns' until we intercepted them and got eyes on, but not once did anybody ever think they were not terrestrial aircraft. This whole constant 'disclosure' thing for years now, IMO, is nothing more than misinformation on purpose. For some reason the govt wants people to think disclosure of the existence of aliens on earth is coming any day now, yet that any day now time frame has been many many years. If they wanted us to know, they would just make a definitive statement, yet they never have and IMO they never will. They are stringing people along. I have no idea why, but I am sure it has a purpose. |
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Originally Posted By southerncross: Yeah, but how can you believe anything when photorealistic AI pictures exist. If you didn't see it with your own eyes how can you put any weight into it? Id question it myself even then. Originally Posted By southerncross: Originally Posted By sq40: We have had disclosure. We are simply being slow dripped the details. Clear photos and videos of the entities are my line for satisfaction. I’m not exactly sure why, as the topic is so deep and complex. But just seeing “them” carries a ton of weight in my mind. Yeah, but how can you believe anything when photorealistic AI pictures exist. If you didn't see it with your own eyes how can you put any weight into it? Id question it myself even then. That is the issue. I think, despite all of the historical evidence to the contrary, people would trust something released from an institution, be it NASA, FBI, the Whit House, Congress, or a University. |
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And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
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His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By sq40: That is the issue. I think, despite all of the historical evidence to the contrary, people would trust something released from an institution, be it NASA, FBI, the Whit House, Congress, or a University. Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By southerncross: Originally Posted By sq40: We have had disclosure. We are simply being slow dripped the details. Clear photos and videos of the entities are my line for satisfaction. I’m not exactly sure why, as the topic is so deep and complex. But just seeing “them” carries a ton of weight in my mind. Yeah, but how can you believe anything when photorealistic AI pictures exist. If you didn't see it with your own eyes how can you put any weight into it? Id question it myself even then. That is the issue. I think, despite all of the historical evidence to the contrary, people would trust something released from an institution, be it NASA, FBI, the Whit House, Congress, or a University. Most people would for sure. All of the govt involvement just reeks of dishonesty to me. I can't take it seriously. I am 100% sure there are some good actors in our govt who do what they say they're doing to try to bring about disclosure, but half of them will tell you they're being slow rolled as well and shown things but never actually given answers. |
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Originally Posted By sq40: That is the issue. I think, despite all of the historical evidence to the contrary, people would trust something released from an institution, be it NASA, FBI, the Whit House, Congress, or a University. Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By southerncross: Originally Posted By sq40: We have had disclosure. We are simply being slow dripped the details. Clear photos and videos of the entities are my line for satisfaction. I’m not exactly sure why, as the topic is so deep and complex. But just seeing “them” carries a ton of weight in my mind. Yeah, but how can you believe anything when photorealistic AI pictures exist. If you didn't see it with your own eyes how can you put any weight into it? Id question it myself even then. That is the issue. I think, despite all of the historical evidence to the contrary, people would trust something released from an institution, be it NASA, FBI, the Whit House, Congress, or a University. I'd posit that this is the exact reason "disclosure" is the hot topic right now. With AI now producing pics/vids that are indistinguishable from reality (and I'm NOT talking about the stuff us plebes have access to, although even that has gotten 1000% better from the days of blurry eyes and 10-fingered hands... although most AI apparently still doesn't understand what a sword or gun looks like), it's become exponentially easier for the sources and .gov to distract us from their unrelenting bullshit, and when something real appears in the stream, it's easy to dismiss it as an AI hoax. Disinformation has reached a new summit, and "disclosure" is the exact same thing it's always been. Disinformation. |
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I no longer believe any of the things UFO related I formerly believed for more than 50 years. I was more than simply an enthusiast; I saw a very large craft, close, and in daylight, in the early 70s. I do believe UAPs and USOs, in their various reported forms, are real; some are secret U.S. technology, but others come from elsewhere, but not space. I no longer believe “space” is what we’ve all been told, and I’ve learned that almost everything NASA, the FBI, and the CIA state or release, are lies. I have a LARGE collection of “UFO” and UFO-related books, all of which I enthusiastically read cover-to-cover. Some it I found credible, and believed; the rest I wanted to be true, but didn’t believe. Looking into an unrelated topic that I never believed, thought ridiculous and laughable, caused me to question ALOT of what I believed. Up to that point, I’d never considered looking into it, but I was curious to know what others believed that lead them to such an outrageous and ridiculous assertion. I am now quite convinced that the “ridiculous assertion” is the truth. I am also convinced that “Disclosure” will likely happen, but none of it will be the truth, and that the only purpose will be for manipulation and control. I’m not crapping on the thread, and I don’t consider myself part of the “we” in the thread title, as I’ve never in my life been interested to acquiesce to general consensus. Instead, always seeking and speaking truth, having convictions based in objectivity, being open to new information, and acknowledging when I’m wrong. An old Cop once told me: “you’ll never learn anything with your mouth open”. Experience and maturity taught me he was right. |
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Originally Posted By yankee43: I no longer believe any of the things UFO related I formerly believed for more than 50 years. I was more than simply an enthusiast; I saw a very large craft, close, and in daylight, in the early 70s. I do believe UAPs and USOs, in their various reported forms, are real; some are secret U.S. technology, but others come from elsewhere, but not space. I no longer believe “space” is what we’ve all been told, and I’ve learned that almost everything NASA, the FBI, and the CIA state or release, are lies. I have a LARGE collection of “UFO” and UFO-related books, all of which I enthusiastically read cover-to-cover. Some it I found credible, and believed; the rest I wanted to be true, but didn’t believe. Looking into an unrelated topic that I never believed, thought ridiculous and laughable, caused me to question ALOT of what I believed. Up to that point, I’d never considered looking into it, but I was curious to know what others believed that lead them to such an outrageous and ridiculous assertion. I am now quite convinced that the “ridiculous assertion” is the truth. I am also convinced that “Disclosure” will likely happen, but none of it will be the truth, and that the only purpose will be for manipulation and control. I’m not crapping on the thread, and I don’t consider myself part of the “we” in the thread title, as I’ve never in my life been interested to acquiesce to general consensus. Instead, always seeking and speaking truth, having convictions based in objectivity, being open to new information, and acknowledging when I’m wrong. An old Cop once told me: “you’ll never learn anything with your mouth open”. Experience and maturity taught me he was right. As someone who strongly identifies with what you wrote (highlighted in red) … May I ask a few questions? 1: What was it that you read that caused you to question what you believed? (Highlighted in blue) 2: What craft do you think you saw in the 70s? A human-made one? Genuinely interested in your response. Skepticism is healthy and natural… I have it even though I’m all in on this (with the posts to support that statement ). Just curious what was so compelling that you dropped every bit of belief in the phenomena, to get you where you are today.Thanks in advance. |
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Originally Posted By macman37: As someone who strongly identifies with what you wrote (highlighted in red) … May I ask a few questions? 1: What was it that you read that caused you to question what you believed? (Highlighted in blue) 2: What craft do you think you saw in the 70s? A human-made one? Genuinely interested in your response. Skepticism is healthy and natural… I have it even though I’m all in on this (with the posts to support that statement ). Just curious what was so compelling that you dropped every bit of belief in the phenomena, to get you where you are today.Thanks in advance. Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By yankee43: I no longer believe any of the things UFO related I formerly believed for more than 50 years. I was more than simply an enthusiast; I saw a very large craft, close, and in daylight, in the early 70s. I do believe UAPs and USOs, in their various reported forms, are real; some are secret U.S. technology, but others come from elsewhere, but not space. I no longer believe “space” is what we’ve all been told, and I’ve learned that almost everything NASA, the FBI, and the CIA state or release, are lies. I have a LARGE collection of “UFO” and UFO-related books, all of which I enthusiastically read cover-to-cover. Some it I found credible, and believed; the rest I wanted to be true, but didn’t believe. Looking into an unrelated topic that I never believed, thought ridiculous and laughable, caused me to question ALOT of what I believed. Up to that point, I’d never considered looking into it, but I was curious to know what others believed that lead them to such an outrageous and ridiculous assertion. I am now quite convinced that the “ridiculous assertion” is the truth. I am also convinced that “Disclosure” will likely happen, but none of it will be the truth, and that the only purpose will be for manipulation and control. I’m not crapping on the thread, and I don’t consider myself part of the “we” in the thread title, as I’ve never in my life been interested to acquiesce to general consensus. Instead, always seeking and speaking truth, having convictions based in objectivity, being open to new information, and acknowledging when I’m wrong. An old Cop once told me: “you’ll never learn anything with your mouth open”. Experience and maturity taught me he was right. As someone who strongly identifies with what you wrote (highlighted in red) … May I ask a few questions? 1: What was it that you read that caused you to question what you believed? (Highlighted in blue) 2: What craft do you think you saw in the 70s? A human-made one? Genuinely interested in your response. Skepticism is healthy and natural… I have it even though I’m all in on this (with the posts to support that statement ). Just curious what was so compelling that you dropped every bit of belief in the phenomena, to get you where you are today.Thanks in advance. @macman37 I’ve described the craft, in detail, a few times previously in GD. I won’t be sharing any more, sorry. I’ve learned from harsh experience that posting or suggesting any information other than accepted government narratives, gets one reported, publicly labeled “liar”, censored, and warned. It’s shameful, really. This place used to be the most awesome site on the internet. |
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Originally Posted By yankee43: @macman37 I’ve described the craft, in detail, a few times previously in GD. I won’t be sharing any more, sorry. I’ve learned from harsh experience that posting or suggesting any information other than accepted government narratives, gets one reported, publicly labeled “liar”, censored, and warned. It’s shameful, really. This place used to be the most awesome site on the internet. We're literally in the UFO forum, not GD. I haven't ever seen you post your sighting and nobody here is going to label you anything. I am legitimately interested in hearing it. |
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Originally Posted By sq40: We have had disclosure. We are simply being slow dripped the details. Clear photos and videos of the entities are my line for satisfaction. I’m not exactly sure why, as the topic is so deep and complex. But just seeing “them” carries a ton of weight in my mind. Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Flushdraw: What end result are you wanting? Disclosure? What would that look like to you? We have had disclosure. We are simply being slow dripped the details. Clear photos and videos of the entities are my line for satisfaction. I’m not exactly sure why, as the topic is so deep and complex. But just seeing “them” carries a ton of weight in my mind. Unfortunately, your at least 2 years too late. ANY photo or video released can be a fake. You will NOT be able to tell the difference. I can make a "photo" of a UAP that looks 100% legit and I'm just an amateur playing around. |
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: I'd posit that this is the exact reason "disclosure" is the hot topic right now. With AI now producing pics/vids that are indistinguishable from reality (and I'm NOT talking about the stuff us plebes have access to, although even that has gotten 1000% better from the days of blurry eyes and 10-fingered hands... although most AI apparently still doesn't understand what a sword or gun looks like), it's become exponentially easier for the sources and .gov to distract us from their unrelenting bullshit, and when something real appears in the stream, it's easy to dismiss it as an AI hoax. Disinformation has reached a new summit, and "disclosure" is the exact same thing it's always been. Disinformation. We will be catapulted to the 20th century again when it comes to the UFO topic. The AI Creation nullifies anything released, even if it's perfectly what was seen, unless you have physical possession of it, it doesn't matter. We're back to having to trust some spokesperson ala 1930s-80s and we only knew (and trusted/believed) TheNews™ which trained us to shout down non believers the same way people with a clearance would shout down people guessing too closely to reality. The window is closing quickly and the number of trustworthy people is in the single digits yet. The slightly bothersome thing for me is the visible character grooming. Grusch went from baby face honest to now having a short beard, and others we are supposed to trust have the permanent 3/32"-1/8" aka 2-4mm trimmer look. The People have been trained to associate the 4 day shadow on a man as attractive so people are heading that direction. I've noticed that most all that had a typical "look" when on early interviews are now converging on a "trustworthy attractive guy" with professional shoppers to get their clothes and makeup artists for their haircut/facial hair/etc. They're grooming the public to unquestionably believe everything they say in their next interview, IMO. |
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Originally Posted By southerncross: We're literally in the UFO forum, not GD. I haven't ever seen you post your sighting and nobody here is going to label you anything. I am legitimately interested in hearing it. Sadly, for some people they see a member posting something in this forum and they'll mock them in GD (which is against CoC conventions but it's what the members do.) I find it mostly easiest to only stick t this forum and GD pretty much only for Guns762 art school giant art project thread which has happened every school year for almost n decade. The rest of GD I skim and post absolute facts or snarky ones that goof don't matter, where everybody else, including the OP understands it to be a fun/goof thread. In Short, @yankee43 Feel free to post what you'd like, this forum dumps threads into archive where names are removed after one month. If you get hassled in a different forum for something posted in this heard, that's something contacting staff would correct. Yes, this is a "safe space" of sorts, but any mention of at least an adjacent paranormal concept results in monkeys flinging poo which illustrated a "safe space" is needed due to their blind behavior. |
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Originally Posted By southerncross: We're literally in the UFO forum, not GD. I haven't ever seen you post your sighting and nobody here is going to label you anything. I am legitimately interested in hearing it. Originally Posted By southerncross: Originally Posted By yankee43: @macman37 I’ve described the craft, in detail, a few times previously in GD. I won’t be sharing any more, sorry. I’ve learned from harsh experience that posting or suggesting any information other than accepted government narratives, gets one reported, publicly labeled “liar”, censored, and warned. It’s shameful, really. This place used to be the most awesome site on the internet. We're literally in the UFO forum, not GD. I haven't ever seen you post your sighting and nobody here is going to label you anything. I am legitimately interested in hearing it. For sure. I honestly was not asking for more to then hit you on the head with it, Yankee. This is the spot we can (and some of us do) talk openly about stuff like this. I’m genuinely interested but if you’re not comfortable, no worries, that’s fine too. |
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Originally Posted By southerncross: Most people would for sure. All of the govt involvement just reeks of dishonesty to me. I can't take it seriously. I am 100% sure there are some good actors in our govt who do what they say they're doing to try to bring about disclosure, but half of them will tell you they're being slow rolled as well and shown things but never actually given answers. Originally Posted By southerncross: Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By southerncross: Originally Posted By sq40: We have had disclosure. We are simply being slow dripped the details. Clear photos and videos of the entities are my line for satisfaction. I’m not exactly sure why, as the topic is so deep and complex. But just seeing “them” carries a ton of weight in my mind. Yeah, but how can you believe anything when photorealistic AI pictures exist. If you didn't see it with your own eyes how can you put any weight into it? Id question it myself even then. That is the issue. I think, despite all of the historical evidence to the contrary, people would trust something released from an institution, be it NASA, FBI, the Whit House, Congress, or a University. Most people would for sure. All of the govt involvement just reeks of dishonesty to me. I can't take it seriously. I am 100% sure there are some good actors in our govt who do what they say they're doing to try to bring about disclosure, but half of them will tell you they're being slow rolled as well and shown things but never actually given answers. Government work is 90% CYA. Once you get past the county level, it’s increasingly run by lawyers. The federal government, all three branches are effetely large law-firms. They act like it, operate like it, and are self interested like it. If anyone here has ever worked for s lawfirm, you know what I mean. |
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I was hoping there'd be real disclosure but it looks like it's just going to be some more smoke and mirrors. It's probably like everything else, it's all about the money and covering the elites a**. There's folks who know what's going on but I don't think we'll see any real disclosure. If there's any recovered craft they're probably in possession of one of the big aviation contractors. I worked a few details with the feds years ago in my previous occupation and they have thier own set of rules. |
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: I'd posit that this is the exact reason "disclosure" is the hot topic right now. With AI now producing pics/vids that are indistinguishable from reality (and I'm NOT talking about the stuff us plebes have access to, although even that has gotten 1000% better from the days of blurry eyes and 10-fingered hands... although most AI apparently still doesn't understand what a sword or gun looks like), it's become exponentially easier for the sources and .gov to distract us from their unrelenting bullshit, and when something real appears in the stream, it's easy to dismiss it as an AI hoax. Disinformation has reached a new summit, and "disclosure" is the exact same thing it's always been. Disinformation. Originally Posted By Kagetora: Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By southerncross: Originally Posted By sq40: We have had disclosure. We are simply being slow dripped the details. Clear photos and videos of the entities are my line for satisfaction. I’m not exactly sure why, as the topic is so deep and complex. But just seeing “them” carries a ton of weight in my mind. Yeah, but how can you believe anything when photorealistic AI pictures exist. If you didn't see it with your own eyes how can you put any weight into it? Id question it myself even then. That is the issue. I think, despite all of the historical evidence to the contrary, people would trust something released from an institution, be it NASA, FBI, the Whit House, Congress, or a University. I'd posit that this is the exact reason "disclosure" is the hot topic right now. With AI now producing pics/vids that are indistinguishable from reality (and I'm NOT talking about the stuff us plebes have access to, although even that has gotten 1000% better from the days of blurry eyes and 10-fingered hands... although most AI apparently still doesn't understand what a sword or gun looks like), it's become exponentially easier for the sources and .gov to distract us from their unrelenting bullshit, and when something real appears in the stream, it's easy to dismiss it as an AI hoax. Disinformation has reached a new summit, and "disclosure" is the exact same thing it's always been. Disinformation. 3 minutes on my iphone. Attached File Attached File |
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And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By brass: We will be catapulted to the 20th century again when it comes to the UFO topic. The AI Creation nullifies anything released, even if it's perfectly what was seen, unless you have physical possession of it, it doesn't matter. We're back to having to trust some spokesperson ala 1930s-80s and we only knew (and trusted/believed) TheNews™ which trained us to shout down non believers the same way people with a clearance would shout down people guessing too closely to reality. The window is closing quickly and the number of trustworthy people is in the single digits yet. The slightly bothersome thing for me is the visible character grooming. Grusch went from baby face honest to now having a short beard, and others we are supposed to trust have the permanent 3/32"-1/8" aka 2-4mm trimmer look. The People have been trained to associate the 4 day shadow on a man as attractive so people are heading that direction. I've noticed that most all that had a typical "look" when on early interviews are now converging on a "trustworthy attractive guy" with professional shoppers to get their clothes and makeup artists for their haircut/facial hair/etc. They're grooming the public to unquestionably believe everything they say in their next interview, IMO. I agree. Have you seen his Dr. Phil interview yet? It is very different. |
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And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By sq40: Government work is 90% CYA. Once you get past the county level, it’s increasingly run by lawyers. The federal government, all three branches are effetely large law-firms. They act like it, operate like it, and are self interested like it. If anyone here has ever worked for s lawfirm, you know what I mean. My wife is an attorney
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Originally Posted By southerncross: My wife is an attorney Originally Posted By southerncross: Originally Posted By sq40: Government work is 90% CYA. Once you get past the county level, it’s increasingly run by lawyers. The federal government, all three branches are effetely large law-firms. They act like it, operate like it, and are self interested like it. If anyone here has ever worked for s lawfirm, you know what I mean. My wife is an attorney You poor man.  Then you know what I mean. When there are many of them working together, the atmosphere is very different than any other place than government. |
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And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By sq40: Government work is 90% CYA. Once you get past the county level, it’s increasingly run by lawyers. The federal government, all three branches are effetely large law-firms. They act like it, operate like it, and are self interested like it. If anyone here has ever worked for s lawfirm, you know what I mean. I can easily believe that, they can't make a simple bill without it going into at least 4 digits on pages just so they can use the "lets just use omnibus" agreement for spending so everybody gets at least some of what they want while we little people haveno clue actually finding the line items where which money from which taxes went to pay for this new 4 year old federal bridge (or other infrastructure) that fell down. We also can't point to the lack of new infrastructure and point to where money was specifically allocated for it in the final revision of the "spending bill". Government went from local Sheriff, county store, judge to Wal-Mart, hundreds of law firms, and judicial branches for 5 different jurisdictions, all still for that same town that was run by like a half dozen people at the top a century ago. |
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Originally Posted By Slingblade2006: The more I read about time-space and distance in the Universe, I am starting to believe we are alone. It does not mean UFO's don't exist, but most likely they originated from here. Maybe with other species, idk. It's also possible that time-space has nothing to do with it. There could be a gazillion "possibilities" beyond our limited imagination. |
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Originally Posted By Slingblade2006: The more I read about time-space and distance in the Universe, I am starting to believe we are alone. It does not mean UFO's don't exist, but most likely they originated from here. Maybe with other species, idk. That was hinted at. Fun short story to read that was suggested with a pseudo wink was "Chains of the Sea", which is the second short story in this book of 3 short stories, free to read online at internet archive: Page 58 at Internet Archive It really makes you think when you look t everything we've been nudged about the past decades. To prevent people from scraping all the books, you need to create a sign in and then "borrow" the book, read the story and return it (you can borrow for up to a year) Only thing is you can only have so many on loan at once. email address is a click to verify so use a valid one but it isn't used other than that beyond being your sign in name. |
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Originally Posted By Slingblade2006: The more I read about time-space and distance in the Universe, I am starting to believe we are alone. It does not mean UFO's don't exist, but most likely they originated from here. Maybe with other species, idk. There is a heavy intimation in the new Pasulka book where she quotes from a guy named Eric Wargo… He wrote a book I have had on my wish list for about 3 years now called “Time Loops” (she quotes from a different book I also want to read). Time Loops in and of itself seems to be a decent moniker for what you’re saying here. Think of the Spielberg movie A.I. We attain a level of AI sentience, then “aliens” (really, us from the distant future) loop back to visit us. |
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| It's interesting if you link the book of Enoch, the great flood, and USOs to the watchers. It explains the grays be observers and not really wanting to interact with us, the human looking ones wanting to share technology with us, and the nasty evil ones that want to eat us... God destroyed the earth but spared some of the fallen ones. What we are left with are waiting for the right time to reveal themselves and fulfill the book of Revelation. |
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Originally Posted By macman37: There is a heavy intimation in the new Pasulka book where she quotes from a guy named Eric Wargo… He wrote a book I have had on my wish list for about 3 years now called “Time Loops” (she quotes from a different book I also want to read). Time Loops in and of itself seems to be a decent moniker for what you’re saying here. Think of the Spielberg movie A.I. We attain a level of AI sentience, then “aliens” (really, us from the distant future) loop back to visit us. Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By Slingblade2006: The more I read about time-space and distance in the Universe, I am starting to believe we are alone. It does not mean UFO's don't exist, but most likely they originated from here. Maybe with other species, idk. There is a heavy intimation in the new Pasulka book where she quotes from a guy named Eric Wargo… He wrote a book I have had on my wish list for about 3 years now called “Time Loops” (she quotes from a different book I also want to read). Time Loops in and of itself seems to be a decent moniker for what you’re saying here. Think of the Spielberg movie A.I. We attain a level of AI sentience, then “aliens” (really, us from the distant future) loop back to visit us. Here's the promo text for Eric Wargo's "Time Loops" Book: Time Is Not What You Think It Is. Neither Are You. Welcome to a world where participants in psychology experiments respond to pictures they haven’t seen yet … where physicists influence the past behavior of a light beam by measuring its photons now … and where dreamers and writers literally remember their future. This landmark study explores the principles that allow the future to affect the present, and the present to affect the past, without causing paradox. It also deconstructs the powerful taboos that, for centuries, have kept mainstream science from taking phenomena like retrocausation and precognition seriously. We are four-dimensional creatures, and sometimes we are even caught in time loops—self-fulfilling prophecies where effects become their own causes. Eric Wargo has a PhD in anthropology from Emory University and works as a science writer and editor in Washington, DC. In his spare time, he writes about science fiction, consciousness, and the paranormal at his popular blog, The Nightshirt. Time Loops is his first boo |
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Originally Posted By AR-1556: It's interesting if you link the book of Enoch, the great flood, and USOs to the watchers. It explains the grays be observers and not really wanting to interact with us, the human looking ones wanting to share technology with us, and the nasty evil ones that want to eat us... God destroyed the earth but spared some of the fallen ones. What we are left with are waiting for the right time to reveal themselves and fulfill the book of Revelation. From what we've been hinted toward, seeing the various races is just seeing our planet on a different frequency/dimension/timeline/version. Going "up" in dimensions is the actual answer for everything, the place we go with DMT trips and LSD and at Death (Or Near Death Experiences0 where NDE coincide very much like DMT trips, after which, people have no fear of death, it's a recognized treatment for terminal cancer treatment. |
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Originally Posted By brass: From what we've been hinted toward, seeing the various races is just seeing our planet on a different frequency/dimension/timeline/version. Going "up" in dimensions is the actual answer for everything, the place we go with DMT trips and LSD and at Death (Or Near Death Experiences0 where NDE coincide very much like DMT trips, after which, people have no fear of death, it's a recognized treatment for terminal cancer treatment. I hear you and agree there is something with consciousness and OoBE. Maybe it's our soul that we describe as conscience, our body is the container for the soul. When it's released (naturally or forced) we enter another realm of existence which parallels the physical world until you get to your next destination (or are returned to the physical realm). But what about the people who experience things and are stone cold sober or in good health? There is physical media which catches unexplainable things, I don't think a camera is tripping on DMT when it photographs something mysterious and unexplainable. Then there is the paranormal where people are physically affected by demonic spirits. Poltergeist move objects in the physical realm and are caught both by human eye and cameras. No drugs that I know of can affect the physical world. I do find out of body experiences interesting, and its undeniable that they do happen. Doctors can attest to that when people can recite conversations they had in rooms where the patient wasn't present during surgery. |
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Originally Posted By AR-1556: I hear you and agree there is something with consciousness and OoBE. Maybe it's our soul that we describe as conscience, our body is the container for the soul. When it's released (naturally or forced) we enter another realm of existence which parallels the physical world until you get to your next destination (or are returned to the physical realm). But what about the people who experience things and are stone cold sober or in good health? There is physical media which catches unexplainable things, I don't think a camera is tripping on DMT when it photographs something mysterious and unexplainable. Then there is the paranormal where people are physically affected by demonic spirits. Poltergeist move objects in the physical realm and are caught both by human eye and cameras. No drugs that I know of can affect the physical world. I do find out of body experiences interesting, and its undeniable that they do happen. Doctors can attest to that when people can recite conversations they had in rooms where the patient wasn't present during surgery. Originally Posted By AR-1556: Originally Posted By brass: From what we've been hinted toward, seeing the various races is just seeing our planet on a different frequency/dimension/timeline/version. Going "up" in dimensions is the actual answer for everything, the place we go with DMT trips and LSD and at Death (Or Near Death Experiences0 where NDE coincide very much like DMT trips, after which, people have no fear of death, it's a recognized treatment for terminal cancer treatment. I hear you and agree there is something with consciousness and OoBE. Maybe it's our soul that we describe as conscience, our body is the container for the soul. When it's released (naturally or forced) we enter another realm of existence which parallels the physical world until you get to your next destination (or are returned to the physical realm). But what about the people who experience things and are stone cold sober or in good health? There is physical media which catches unexplainable things, I don't think a camera is tripping on DMT when it photographs something mysterious and unexplainable. Then there is the paranormal where people are physically affected by demonic spirits. Poltergeist move objects in the physical realm and are caught both by human eye and cameras. No drugs that I know of can affect the physical world. I do find out of body experiences interesting, and its undeniable that they do happen. Doctors can attest to that when people can recite conversations they had in rooms where the patient wasn't present during surgery. 2 parts to that and I'll talk about the second first. 1) Anesthesia just puts you to sleep. It doesn't shut off your ears and brain and people an recall statements and phrases in a surgery. More so if that surgery ended up to be an NDE and out of body where he saw himself on the table dying and he had the choice to go back to his body and live, or move on to the "light". That one went back to his body, which is why we know of it. 2) I think there's a 1 in 500 or 1 in 1000 chance that your defenses against bad juju (voodoo, demons, all sorts of names) completely drop, which is why the churches say to never come close to those substances, and for people taking "a trip", they suggest having a sober buddy to watch them and 'pull them out" by waking up forcefully. There are stories of bad trips where people came back from an acid trip as a different person, literally, and generally not an improvement. So if you are entirely alone, I don't suggest shroom/lsd/etc until you get a friend to watch in case you start freaking out. The Church and others say avoid entirely no matter what, or only under direct continual supervision of a doctor. So there could be bad stuff we latch onto, but we only hear about the good stuff, since the people the bad linked to aren't going to go around telling people about it, they just hijacked the body, no need to admit it. |
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Originally Posted By macman37: * some of us  Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: It's coming. No one thought we would have 4473 cans this year, yet here we* are. * some of us Look at what has changed since 2015. Think of what changed from 2005 to 2015. No matter what you think about Trump, the government and congressional/state/fed shake up and new blood knocked a lot of stuck slime loose. There's still some left, but it doesn't have as much power as it did in 2012-2015 where they FISA'd Trump and everybody about it then laughed and TheNews™ helped laugh about it to make it seem absurd. Then we found out the truth. And that has happened for tons of things, especially related to this forum. There's still a lot of swamp not liking it, which is why this forum had to be created. |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.