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4/28/2026 6:52:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By brass:


The problem is that they know who we are.   There's no escape.  After wiping all of preferences, suggestions, subscriptions, it took 3 days of just surfing the threads in this forum and when I went back to youtube, I had all the suggestions I'd had before dumping everything, I'm in this pool by association but at least I'm not getting popups and alerts that a new video is out by whoever.

As you said, so much ground is repeated it is insane.  Especially when somebody goes on one of the more "thorough" podcasts with a guess that opens up and shares new things.    We don't want youtube to become the "old media", but it  has.   Anytime something ne2wd drops from physics to math to UFO, dozens of channels then read the same story and sometimes mention other channels talked about it "but they didn't mention this!" sort of crap.   Feels a lot like "CNN reports that CBS news had a special reporter who was hired by Reuters to do a story and now we bring you that information!  

Same as all the youtube channels trying to gloom on to the next big thing.   The "big guys" don't need to worry, well, unless they're pissing their viewership away by being dumb.   It's the guys in the middle, 10k-100k subscribers is the hard scrabble land because most everybody already has full subs and time allocated so them trying to break in new and get into the 100k+ subscriber income territory end up in a ton of repeats and yes, fakes, to show up.

Right now it's a bunch of ice salesmen after a hurricane where nobody has ice so they're all standing around talking about how they're going to have more ice soon.

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And there it is.

I haven't watched Jesse's interview with Lazar yet because I'm kinda Lazar'd out right now between Rogan and Area52.  I figured there was no new info to be had so I skipped it.

I feel the same way.  And when a video turns into 4+ hours of rehashing most of the same stuff to maybe just maybe add one or more details it's just not worth the time watching.  That's why I love Christina and even Cosmic Road because anything worthwhile they will cover in just a few minutes most of the time.  Saves a lot of time to maybe learn something else happening elsewhere.
The trend of having the same person tell their story on 6 different podcasts is a bit tiresome.  I understand wanting to reach different audiences but the vast majority of subscribers have a shitload of crossover between the usual hosts.

How many folks are sub'd to American Alchemy but not A52 and vice versa?  Then how many of those aren't also watching Rogan?  But I get it, everybody needs to get their YouTube numbers.


The problem is that they know who we are.   There's no escape.  After wiping all of preferences, suggestions, subscriptions, it took 3 days of just surfing the threads in this forum and when I went back to youtube, I had all the suggestions I'd had before dumping everything, I'm in this pool by association but at least I'm not getting popups and alerts that a new video is out by whoever.

As you said, so much ground is repeated it is insane.  Especially when somebody goes on one of the more "thorough" podcasts with a guess that opens up and shares new things.    We don't want youtube to become the "old media", but it  has.   Anytime something ne2wd drops from physics to math to UFO, dozens of channels then read the same story and sometimes mention other channels talked about it "but they didn't mention this!" sort of crap.   Feels a lot like "CNN reports that CBS news had a special reporter who was hired by Reuters to do a story and now we bring you that information!  

Same as all the youtube channels trying to gloom on to the next big thing.   The "big guys" don't need to worry, well, unless they're pissing their viewership away by being dumb.   It's the guys in the middle, 10k-100k subscribers is the hard scrabble land because most everybody already has full subs and time allocated so them trying to break in new and get into the 100k+ subscriber income territory end up in a ton of repeats and yes, fakes, to show up.

Right now it's a bunch of ice salesmen after a hurricane where nobody has ice so they're all standing around talking about how they're going to have more ice soon.



I’ve noticed - especially since the initial Grusch testimony - that there’s a pattern with this. Someone high up or at least a whistleblower says something, and there’s this raft of great info, then we get months of discussion, dissemination, (to the point of “ad nauseam” imho) until someone else comes out and the cycle repeats. Grusch, Brown, Borland, Davis. Sporadically, Lazar. I’d include Elizondo even though I’m very borderline on him.

Guys like Jesse Michels, Danny Jones, Knapp/Corbell, and to a point, Chris Ramsey are quite good at drawing connections.

Whether that is coincidence or manufactured, I can’t definitively say, but I can say we’re due for another new revelation from a whistleblower.

My opinions obviously. I hope we get enough, soon, that we can start drawing big connections from it. The tendrils are already starting to roughly connect.
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4/28/2026 9:43:34 AM EDT
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Re: the Weinstein/Davis pod

Holy smokes about 2 hours in, the buildup of Davis’ “I know so much” creds and Weinstein’s case-building is starting to generate sparks.

It’s got to be one of the most subtle yet powerful games of cat-and-mouse I’ve ever heard.

Plus, Davis goes from moderately arrogant to nearly rabid when Weinstein brings up Bob Lazar. He can’t stop babbling to keep EW from talking. I think that’s the moment Davis knows the gig is up and all he has is obfuscation and bluster.

Amazing pod. I mean, I glaze over when they start talking about the specific theorems; I have no clue what they are talking about… but when they start talking about the applications of them, it gets interesting.
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4/28/2026 10:35:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By macman37:
Re: the Weinstein/Davis pod

Holy smokes about 2 hours in, the buildup of Davis' "I know so much" creds and Weinstein's case-building is starting to generate sparks.

It's got to be one of the most subtle yet powerful games of cat-and-mouse I've ever heard.

Plus, Davis goes from moderately arrogant to nearly rabid when Weinstein brings up Bob Lazar. He can't stop babbling to keep EW from talking. I think that's the moment Davis knows the gig is up and all he has is obfuscation and bluster.

Amazing pod. I mean, I glaze over when they start talking about the specific theorems; I have no clue what they are talking about  but when they start talking about the applications of them, it gets interesting.
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Initially, I took at it as "Davis is intellectually outmatched and struggling" but another way to look at it is Davis is locked into the framework of mainstream physics and Weinstein has been thinking outside of that box for his entire career.  EW has a different way to approach the problems and Davis just isn't familiar with alternative theories.

I do think Davis gets intimidated but it's understandable.  Weinstein is scary smart.
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
4/28/2026 12:06:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Initially, I took at it as "Davis is intellectually outmatched and struggling" but another way to look at it is Davis is locked into the framework of mainstream physics and Weinstein has been thinking outside of that box for his entire career.  EW has a different way to approach the problems and Davis just isn't familiar with alternative theories.

I do think Davis gets intimidated but it's understandable.  Weinstein is scary smart.
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Originally Posted By macman37:
Re: the Weinstein/Davis pod

Holy smokes about 2 hours in, the buildup of Davis' "I know so much" creds and Weinstein's case-building is starting to generate sparks.

It's got to be one of the most subtle yet powerful games of cat-and-mouse I've ever heard.

Plus, Davis goes from moderately arrogant to nearly rabid when Weinstein brings up Bob Lazar. He can't stop babbling to keep EW from talking. I think that's the moment Davis knows the gig is up and all he has is obfuscation and bluster.

Amazing pod. I mean, I glaze over when they start talking about the specific theorems; I have no clue what they are talking about  but when they start talking about the applications of them, it gets interesting.
Initially, I took at it as "Davis is intellectually outmatched and struggling" but another way to look at it is Davis is locked into the framework of mainstream physics and Weinstein has been thinking outside of that box for his entire career.  EW has a different way to approach the problems and Davis just isn't familiar with alternative theories.

I do think Davis gets intimidated but it's understandable.  Weinstein is scary smart.


Agree completely. Davis knows what he knows - he’s a smart guy, I respect that. But EW is just that much smarter, and how he constructed his argument was - to this semi-sentient ape - masterful to listen to. And he’s not even argumentative when Davis gets a little overwhelmed/overstimulated. He knows the chess match is over, he’s just waiting for Davis to realize it.

I have nothing against Davis for what it’s worth. I see what you’re saying about Davis being locked in to the framework of not only mainstream physics but also government bureaucratic interference. When EW asked why nobody in these crash retrieval programs studying objects that defy physics, why they never brought a theoretical physicist in, Davis seemed to defend the practice.

Great stuff. Look forward to more.
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4/28/2026 12:33:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By macman37:


Agree completely. Davis knows what he knows - he’s a smart guy, I respect that. But EW is just that much smarter, and how he constructed his argument was - to this semi-sentient ape - masterful to listen to. And he’s not even argumentative when Davis gets a little overwhelmed/overstimulated. He knows the chess match is over, he’s just waiting for Davis to realize it.

I have nothing against Davis for what it’s worth. I see what you’re saying about Davis being locked in to the framework of not only mainstream physics but also government bureaucratic interference. When EW asked why nobody in these crash retrieval programs studying objects that defy physics, why they never brought a theoretical physicist in, Davis seemed to defend the practice.

Great stuff. Look forward to more.
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The conversation between Davis and EW was my favorite part of the episode. I found it interesting to note how Eric talked about how small the world is with regards to top physicists and basically insinuated (my opinion) that if any were involved in the study of UAP’s it would be known.
4/28/2026 12:41:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By macman37:


Agree completely. Davis knows what he knows - he's a smart guy, I respect that. But EW is just that much smarter, and how he constructed his argument was - to this semi-sentient ape - masterful to listen to. And he's not even argumentative when Davis gets a little overwhelmed/overstimulated. He knows the chess match is over, he's just waiting for Davis to realize it.

I have nothing against Davis for what it's worth. I see what you're saying about Davis being locked in to the framework of not only mainstream physics but also government bureaucratic interference. When EW asked why nobody in these crash retrieval programs studying objects that defy physics, why they never brought a theoretical physicist in, Davis seemed to defend the practice.

Great stuff. Look forward to more.
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Originally Posted By macman37:
Re: the Weinstein/Davis pod

Holy smokes about 2 hours in, the buildup of Davis' "I know so much" creds and Weinstein's case-building is starting to generate sparks.

It's got to be one of the most subtle yet powerful games of cat-and-mouse I've ever heard.

Plus, Davis goes from moderately arrogant to nearly rabid when Weinstein brings up Bob Lazar. He can't stop babbling to keep EW from talking. I think that's the moment Davis knows the gig is up and all he has is obfuscation and bluster.

Amazing pod. I mean, I glaze over when they start talking about the specific theorems; I have no clue what they are talking about  but when they start talking about the applications of them, it gets interesting.
Initially, I took at it as "Davis is intellectually outmatched and struggling" but another way to look at it is Davis is locked into the framework of mainstream physics and Weinstein has been thinking outside of that box for his entire career.  EW has a different way to approach the problems and Davis just isn't familiar with alternative theories.

I do think Davis gets intimidated but it's understandable.  Weinstein is scary smart.


Agree completely. Davis knows what he knows - he's a smart guy, I respect that. But EW is just that much smarter, and how he constructed his argument was - to this semi-sentient ape - masterful to listen to. And he's not even argumentative when Davis gets a little overwhelmed/overstimulated. He knows the chess match is over, he's just waiting for Davis to realize it.

I have nothing against Davis for what it's worth. I see what you're saying about Davis being locked in to the framework of not only mainstream physics but also government bureaucratic interference. When EW asked why nobody in these crash retrieval programs studying objects that defy physics, why they never brought a theoretical physicist in, Davis seemed to defend the practice.

Great stuff. Look forward to more.
I don't think Davis was defending the practice as much as he was saying "that's just how they do it" with a frustrated tone.  If anything, I think he agrees with the other Eric.

My suspicion is Weinstein is onto something and there's a whole aspect of the program Davis is unfamiliar with that is either working on the physics side or already has it figured out.  Knowing how something works and replicating it are separate issues.  It also could be possible that the mechanisms/physics are incredibly dangerous so they shelved the whole idea of "reverse engineering" some of the tech because the ramifications are too extreme.  Kind of a "if we fuck this up, we destroy the world" sort of conundrum.
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
4/28/2026 1:28:18 PM EDT
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I enjoy the podcasts that contain discussions of physics. I don’t comprehend a lot of it but I still find it interesting. It has opened a rabbit hole for me recently. I’ve explored other videos and bought some books. Oddly enough I still have my college math textbooks from 30 years ago from a degree I never finished. The pages look familiar but I wonder if I’m too old to exercise my brain in such a fashion once again. I just want a better understanding when the discussions get off into the weeds.
4/28/2026 3:03:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
I don't think Davis was defending the practice as much as he was saying "that's just how they do it" with a frustrated tone.  If anything, I think he agrees with the other Eric.

My suspicion is Weinstein is onto something and there's a whole aspect of the program Davis is unfamiliar with that is either working on the physics side or already has it figured out.  Knowing how something works and replicating it are separate issues.  It also could be possible that the mechanisms/physics are incredibly dangerous so they shelved the whole idea of "reverse engineering" some of the tech because the ramifications are too extreme.  Kind of a "if we fuck this up, we destroy the world" sort of conundrum.
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Originally Posted By macman37:
Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Originally Posted By macman37:
Re: the Weinstein/Davis pod

Holy smokes about 2 hours in, the buildup of Davis' "I know so much" creds and Weinstein's case-building is starting to generate sparks.

It's got to be one of the most subtle yet powerful games of cat-and-mouse I've ever heard.

Plus, Davis goes from moderately arrogant to nearly rabid when Weinstein brings up Bob Lazar. He can't stop babbling to keep EW from talking. I think that's the moment Davis knows the gig is up and all he has is obfuscation and bluster.

Amazing pod. I mean, I glaze over when they start talking about the specific theorems; I have no clue what they are talking about  but when they start talking about the applications of them, it gets interesting.
Initially, I took at it as "Davis is intellectually outmatched and struggling" but another way to look at it is Davis is locked into the framework of mainstream physics and Weinstein has been thinking outside of that box for his entire career.  EW has a different way to approach the problems and Davis just isn't familiar with alternative theories.

I do think Davis gets intimidated but it's understandable.  Weinstein is scary smart.


Agree completely. Davis knows what he knows - he's a smart guy, I respect that. But EW is just that much smarter, and how he constructed his argument was - to this semi-sentient ape - masterful to listen to. And he's not even argumentative when Davis gets a little overwhelmed/overstimulated. He knows the chess match is over, he's just waiting for Davis to realize it.

I have nothing against Davis for what it's worth. I see what you're saying about Davis being locked in to the framework of not only mainstream physics but also government bureaucratic interference. When EW asked why nobody in these crash retrieval programs studying objects that defy physics, why they never brought a theoretical physicist in, Davis seemed to defend the practice.

Great stuff. Look forward to more.
I don't think Davis was defending the practice as much as he was saying "that's just how they do it" with a frustrated tone.  If anything, I think he agrees with the other Eric.

My suspicion is Weinstein is onto something and there's a whole aspect of the program Davis is unfamiliar with that is either working on the physics side or already has it figured out.  Knowing how something works and replicating it are separate issues.  It also could be possible that the mechanisms/physics are incredibly dangerous so they shelved the whole idea of "reverse engineering" some of the tech because the ramifications are too extreme.  Kind of a "if we fuck this up, we destroy the world" sort of conundrum.


Maybe that was the case and I misread his reaction.

As for Weinstein being on to something - I totally think he is, and he’s spent the last 4+ years leaning in to it and trying to come up with a whole new physics model.
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4/29/2026 12:27:02 PM EDT
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Only about a half hour left in the EW pod. I hate sounding like I have a man crush on the guy but holy crap, how his brain works is fascinating. He comes at problems from angles I’d never consider.
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4/29/2026 1:43:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By macman37:
Only about a half hour left in the EW pod. I hate sounding like I have a man crush on the guy but holy crap, how his brain works is fascinating. He comes at problems from angles I’d never consider.
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He has done a lot of great interviews.

This isnt on UAP, but extinction;

Is This The End of Humanity? - Eric Weinstein
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
4/29/2026 8:19:09 PM EDT
[#11]
Finally finished. That was one of the better pods I’ve ever listened to.
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4/30/2026 5:00:01 PM EDT
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Weinstein/Davis podcast was very interesting. It made me think of the Manhattan project and what it must have been like to try and steer people like Weinstein. Getting him from, through, and in spite of theory to produce a tangible physical product would be a rodeo. Now multiply Weinstein times 50 and you got yourself an Oppenheimer headache.

I look at Leslie Groves as the realist- “use theory to make me a bomb.”

A crashed saucer is not like the bomb. It represents someone else’s ability to produce a tangible product based on theories we don't understand or have yet to think of.

In the short term (what most people live in) a crashed saucer would be the reverse of the phrase that the sum is greater than its parts. We needed metals to survive extreme heat and erosive chemical action in 1947. If you gave Bell Labs a transistor or a piece of a fiber optic wire you would see tangible economically viable results in short order.

Or you could give it to a Weinstein and he would “use a flying saucer to make theories.”
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4/30/2026 5:37:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cheesebeast:
Weinstein/Davis podcast was very interesting. It made me think of the Manhattan project and what it must have been like to try and steer people like Weinstein. Getting him from, through, and in spite of theory to produce a tangible physical product would be a rodeo. Now multiply Weinstein times 50 and you got yourself an Oppenheimer headache.

I look at Leslie Groves as the realist- “use theory to make me a bomb.”

A crashed saucer is not like the bomb. It represents someone else’s ability to produce a tangible product based on theories we don't understand or have yet to think of.

In the short term (what most people live in) a crashed saucer would be the reverse of the phrase that the sum is greater than its parts. We needed metals to survive extreme heat and erosive chemical action in 1947. If you gave Bell Labs a transistor or a piece of a fiber optic wire you would see tangible economically viable results in short order.

Or you could give it to a Weinstein and he would “use a flying saucer to make theories.”
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I thought him talking about UAPs being like the Manhattan project only during peace time was a very interesting analogy.
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4/30/2026 6:06:38 PM EDT
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I thought him talking about UAPs being like the Manhattan project only during peace time was a very interesting analogy.
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It is, and if we have had this tech for 80 years then it is time to take it from short term tangible MIC and make it the purview of theorists.

I live a stone throw from where Roger Babson founded his gravity research group in New Boston, NH. It was the top floor of a general store I use on occasion. Big universe small world I guess.
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5/1/2026 12:27:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cheesebeast:
Weinstein/Davis podcast was very interesting. It made me think of the Manhattan project and what it must have been like to try and steer people like Weinstein. Getting him from, through, and in spite of theory to produce a tangible physical product would be a rodeo. Now multiply Weinstein times 50 and you got yourself an Oppenheimer headache.

I look at Leslie Groves as the realist- “use theory to make me a bomb.”

A crashed saucer is not like the bomb. It represents someone else’s ability to produce a tangible product based on theories we don't understand or have yet to think of.

In the short term (what most people live in) a crashed saucer would be the reverse of the phrase that the sum is greater than its parts. We needed metals to survive extreme heat and erosive chemical action in 1947. If you gave Bell Labs a transistor or a piece of a fiber optic wire you would see tangible economically viable results in short order.

Or you could give it to a Weinstein and he would “use a flying saucer to make theories.”
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The book The Day After Roswell covers that well.  
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
5/1/2026 1:29:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cheesebeast:
Weinstein/Davis podcast was very interesting. It made me think of the Manhattan project and what it must have been like to try and steer people like Weinstein. Getting him from, through, and in spite of theory to produce a tangible physical product would be a rodeo. Now multiply Weinstein times 50 and you got yourself an Oppenheimer headache.

I look at Leslie Groves as the realist- “use theory to make me a bomb.”

A crashed saucer is not like the bomb. It represents someone else’s ability to produce a tangible product based on theories we don't understand or have yet to think of.

In the short term (what most people live in) a crashed saucer would be the reverse of the phrase that the sum is greater than its parts. We needed metals to survive extreme heat and erosive chemical action in 1947. If you gave Bell Labs a transistor or a piece of a fiber optic wire you would see tangible economically viable results in short order.

Or you could give it to a Weinstein and he would “use a flying saucer to make theories.”
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Again the best way to describe a crashed saucer on earth is akin to handing an IPhone to a chimp and telling him to reverse engineer the thing.  It might not be at all possible unless the alien is there to walk you through it which may damn well have been the case with some of these.  That movie I posted about the pre end of WW2 with the Nazis working with the US to share the technology may very well have been true.  I think it was Above Majestic on Prime.   Especially if the saucer from 1937 that was captured is true along with all the stories about Antarctica.  I'm fairly certain the so called Foo Fighters were appearing long before we ever detonated the first nuke and I tend to think they were like the Buga Sphere which has been here as long as humans if not longer.    Part of it carbon dated to 12,500 years and that was the epoxy like material that could have been replaced many times even.  I really just hope some truth finally comes out.  We will surely be disappointed but it will open the conversation to a MUCH wider audience about who and what we really are in relation to the cosmos.
5/2/2026 10:19:02 AM EDT
[#17]
The CIA Scientist That Contacted an Alien Council
5/3/2026 9:28:40 AM EDT
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I just started this long one so no summary yet. It’s just released.  But from the initial previews it seems to be implying the gateway process, RA tapes, etc.

ETA: This one was kind of a mess. Rehashes of a lot psychic stuff.  Only thing noteworthy was to properly channel you need to be in a faraday cage.

The CIA Scientist That Contacted an Alien Council
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
5/9/2026 2:56:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sq40][Edited] [#19]
This one was kind of like bunch of stoners talking about “what ifs”. Fun. Not a must watch.  Just concept after concept.  

Former NSA Director Breaks Silence on UFOs
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
5/13/2026 12:07:54 AM EDT
[#20]
This is a pretty good one. This abduction of a group of men happened a few months after Travis Walton.  It is highly detailed and believable in my opinion.  Some great info on their memories aboard the craft, the medical tests, and a whole lot more.

The Bizarre Alien Abduction Details The Government Will Never Disclose
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
5/13/2026 11:28:29 AM EDT
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This is a pretty good one. This abduction of a group of men happened a few months after Travis Walton.  It is highly detailed and believable in my opinion.  Some great info on their memories aboard the craft, the medical tests, and a whole lot more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkuDvTFN7ms
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Loved the part the one guy spoke about wringing ones neck and they moved back from the table....

Hockey pucks for you sir!
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.

Kites rise highest against the wind, not with it. - Churchill
5/21/2026 1:56:35 PM EDT
[#22]
This is intense as indicated so far.

Why The Pentagon Tried To Censor This UFO Book
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.

Kites rise highest against the wind, not with it. - Churchill
5/21/2026 6:36:14 PM EDT
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This is intense as indicated so far.

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Anyone else feel like we are living peak Twilight Zone levels here?
5/22/2026 9:20:15 PM EDT
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This is intense as indicated so far.

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Halfway through. Great so far, Jesse does a fantastic job of bringing the story to life and working in what he’s learned so far.
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6/2/2026 2:50:33 PM EDT
[#25]
This is a really good one:

Donald Hoffman spent 40 years building a mathematical framework he calls the recursive trace logic. It starts with one assumption: consciousness is fundamental, not physics. From there the math takes over. He can already derive time dilation, length contraction, and quantum wave functions from these hidden markov matrices. He has nine open conjectures that, if proven, would subsume both general relativity and quantum field theory as trivial special cases of a more general theory of observation. John Wheeler cited his 1989 book on observer mechanics in the It From Bit paper. Nima Arkani-Hamed and Nobel laureate David Gross are arriving at the same conclusion from the physics side: spacetime is doomed.
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MIT Scientist: “Your Brain Evolved To Ignore Aliens – They’re Everywhere!”


Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
2:04 - Sponsor (Factor)
3:30 - Fitness Beats Perception
7:00 - The Desktop Interface
13:26 - Near-Death & Remote Viewing
20:42 - Disembodied Consciousness
30:13 - Sponsors (Superpower, Qualia)
35:20 - Hacking Perception
46:15 - The Hard Problem
58:13 - Wheeler, Leibniz & Observers
1:01:13 - Recursive Trace Logic
1:15:12 - UAP & The Trace Logic
1:28:23 - Consciousness As Primitive
1:33:25 - Space-Time Is Doomed
1:39:12 - AI, Minsky & Mike Levin
1:47:02 - UFOs At Exit Points
1:53:46 - The Amplituhedron
2:06:41 - Quantum Interpretations
2:21:37 - Higher Intelligences
2:28:06 - Unity of Consciousness
2:34:05 - Do You Believe In God?
2:44:13 - The Table Doesn't Exist
2:52:13 - Infinite Alien Intelligences
3:01:07 - Trace Logic As AI
3:18:38 - Outro
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6/2/2026 9:50:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope:
This is a really good one:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bqaHVSlVeU

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Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope:
This is a really good one:

Donald Hoffman spent 40 years building a mathematical framework he calls the recursive trace logic. It starts with one assumption: consciousness is fundamental, not physics. From there the math takes over. He can already derive time dilation, length contraction, and quantum wave functions from these hidden markov matrices. He has nine open conjectures that, if proven, would subsume both general relativity and quantum field theory as trivial special cases of a more general theory of observation. John Wheeler cited his 1989 book on observer mechanics in the It From Bit paper. Nima Arkani-Hamed and Nobel laureate David Gross are arriving at the same conclusion from the physics side: spacetime is doomed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bqaHVSlVeU

Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
2:04 - Sponsor (Factor)
3:30 - Fitness Beats Perception
7:00 - The Desktop Interface
13:26 - Near-Death & Remote Viewing
20:42 - Disembodied Consciousness
30:13 - Sponsors (Superpower, Qualia)
35:20 - Hacking Perception
46:15 - The Hard Problem
58:13 - Wheeler, Leibniz & Observers
1:01:13 - Recursive Trace Logic
1:15:12 - UAP & The Trace Logic
1:28:23 - Consciousness As Primitive
1:33:25 - Space-Time Is Doomed
1:39:12 - AI, Minsky & Mike Levin
1:47:02 - UFOs At Exit Points
1:53:46 - The Amplituhedron
2:06:41 - Quantum Interpretations
2:21:37 - Higher Intelligences
2:28:06 - Unity of Consciousness
2:34:05 - Do You Believe In God?
2:44:13 - The Table Doesn't Exist
2:52:13 - Infinite Alien Intelligences
3:01:07 - Trace Logic As AI
3:18:38 - Outro


This will be a fantastic matchup. Really looking forward to it.
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6/8/2026 4:45:26 PM EDT
[#27]
He seems more toned down this time, learned a few new things:

“If You Knew What I Knew!” -Jeremy Corbell UNLEASHES On Jesse Michels


Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
2:24 - Sponsor (Dose)
4:05 - Corbell's Background
6:28 - David Grusch First Contact
17:11 - Why Insiders Resist Disclosure
18:48 - The Legacy Program Explained
22:35 - Jim Lacatski Inside a UFO
36:39 - How Corbell Got Started
42:01 - Sponsor (iRestore)
42:57 - From Illness to Filmmaking
52:13 - Meeting Bob Lazar
59:59 - Sponsor (Quo)
1:01:41 - Corroborating Lazar's Story
1:07:25 - Getting Lazar on Rogan
1:12:47 - Who Is Dylan Borland
1:15:23 - Borland's Triangle Encounter
1:19:44 - Retrofitting Non-Human Tech
1:21:06 - Project Rubiks Cube
1:33:54 - Corbell's First UFO Sighting
1:41:16 - Baghdad Phantom Released
1:43:40 - AARO Was a Honey Trap
1:47:41 - CIA Ties to AARO
2:07:09 - Shaping the UAP Narrative
2:15:40 - Matthew Sullivan's Death
2:19:33 - Witnesses Ready to Testify
2:23:25 - ODNI's Entrapment Attempt
2:27:58 - CIA Red-Teaming
2:30:30 - How Matthew Brown Got Exposed
2:38:14 - Reporting a Sighting
2:41:24 - Matthew Brown's Worldview
2:45:35 - What Corbell Hopes For
2:54:54 - Personal Toll
2:57:54 - We're Hiring an Editor!
02:59:31 - Become A YouTube Member
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6/11/2026 7:18:48 AM EDT
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This will be a fantastic matchup. Really looking forward to it.
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Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope:
This is a really good one:

Donald Hoffman spent 40 years building a mathematical framework he calls the recursive trace logic. It starts with one assumption: consciousness is fundamental, not physics. From there the math takes over. He can already derive time dilation, length contraction, and quantum wave functions from these hidden markov matrices. He has nine open conjectures that, if proven, would subsume both general relativity and quantum field theory as trivial special cases of a more general theory of observation. John Wheeler cited his 1989 book on observer mechanics in the It From Bit paper. Nima Arkani-Hamed and Nobel laureate David Gross are arriving at the same conclusion from the physics side: spacetime is doomed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bqaHVSlVeU

Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
2:04 - Sponsor (Factor)
3:30 - Fitness Beats Perception
7:00 - The Desktop Interface
13:26 - Near-Death & Remote Viewing
20:42 - Disembodied Consciousness
30:13 - Sponsors (Superpower, Qualia)
35:20 - Hacking Perception
46:15 - The Hard Problem
58:13 - Wheeler, Leibniz & Observers
1:01:13 - Recursive Trace Logic
1:15:12 - UAP & The Trace Logic
1:28:23 - Consciousness As Primitive
1:33:25 - Space-Time Is Doomed
1:39:12 - AI, Minsky & Mike Levin
1:47:02 - UFOs At Exit Points
1:53:46 - The Amplituhedron
2:06:41 - Quantum Interpretations
2:21:37 - Higher Intelligences
2:28:06 - Unity of Consciousness
2:34:05 - Do You Believe In God?
2:44:13 - The Table Doesn't Exist
2:52:13 - Infinite Alien Intelligences
3:01:07 - Trace Logic As AI
3:18:38 - Outro


This will be a fantastic matchup. Really looking forward to it.


Got about an hour, maybe and hour twenty left. Wooof. This is fascinating….

The concept of being able to apply mathematics to consciousness is incredible. How they speak of it might as well be Swahili to me. They’re often reeling off theorems I’ve never heard of - in sequence - and then using them as context for their discussion is a little head-spinning but I think I’m keeping up, at least in an abstract, very simple way.
Let's Go Red Wings!

Beautifying the world one logo at a time since 1993.

Soli Deo Gloria
6/11/2026 10:02:07 PM EDT
[#29]
After the Davis / EW pod, EW got calls from folks.

He talks about it on Rogan.
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.

Kites rise highest against the wind, not with it. - Churchill
6/12/2026 9:39:30 AM EDT
[#30]
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Originally Posted By macman37:


Got about an hour, maybe and hour twenty left. Wooof. This is fascinating….

The concept of being able to apply mathematics to consciousness is incredible. How they speak of it might as well be Swahili to me. They’re often reeling off theorems I’ve never heard of - in sequence - and then using them as context for their discussion is a little head-spinning but I think I’m keeping up, at least in an abstract, very simple way.
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Originally Posted By macman37:
Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope:
This is a really good one:

Donald Hoffman spent 40 years building a mathematical framework he calls the recursive trace logic. It starts with one assumption: consciousness is fundamental, not physics. From there the math takes over. He can already derive time dilation, length contraction, and quantum wave functions from these hidden markov matrices. He has nine open conjectures that, if proven, would subsume both general relativity and quantum field theory as trivial special cases of a more general theory of observation. John Wheeler cited his 1989 book on observer mechanics in the It From Bit paper. Nima Arkani-Hamed and Nobel laureate David Gross are arriving at the same conclusion from the physics side: spacetime is doomed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bqaHVSlVeU

Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
2:04 - Sponsor (Factor)
3:30 - Fitness Beats Perception
7:00 - The Desktop Interface
13:26 - Near-Death & Remote Viewing
20:42 - Disembodied Consciousness
30:13 - Sponsors (Superpower, Qualia)
35:20 - Hacking Perception
46:15 - The Hard Problem
58:13 - Wheeler, Leibniz & Observers
1:01:13 - Recursive Trace Logic
1:15:12 - UAP & The Trace Logic
1:28:23 - Consciousness As Primitive
1:33:25 - Space-Time Is Doomed
1:39:12 - AI, Minsky & Mike Levin
1:47:02 - UFOs At Exit Points
1:53:46 - The Amplituhedron
2:06:41 - Quantum Interpretations
2:21:37 - Higher Intelligences
2:28:06 - Unity of Consciousness
2:34:05 - Do You Believe In God?
2:44:13 - The Table Doesn't Exist
2:52:13 - Infinite Alien Intelligences
3:01:07 - Trace Logic As AI
3:18:38 - Outro


This will be a fantastic matchup. Really looking forward to it.


Got about an hour, maybe and hour twenty left. Wooof. This is fascinating….

The concept of being able to apply mathematics to consciousness is incredible. How they speak of it might as well be Swahili to me. They’re often reeling off theorems I’ve never heard of - in sequence - and then using them as context for their discussion is a little head-spinning but I think I’m keeping up, at least in an abstract, very simple way.

I haven't watched this yet but I've seen several reports lately that say physicist have come to the conclusion that our world really is a sort of hologram.
6/12/2026 12:08:47 PM EDT
[#31]
Big one here folks

Brazil's Most Famous UFO Cases Confirmed Real By Defense Minister
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.

Kites rise highest against the wind, not with it. - Churchill
6/14/2026 7:52:42 AM EDT
[#32]
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Originally Posted By macman37:


Got about an hour, maybe and hour twenty left. Wooof. This is fascinating….

The concept of being able to apply mathematics to consciousness is incredible. How they speak of it might as well be Swahili to me. They’re often reeling off theorems I’ve never heard of - in sequence - and then using them as context for their discussion is a little head-spinning but I think I’m keeping up, at least in an abstract, very simple way.
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Originally Posted By macman37:
Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope:
This is a really good one:

Donald Hoffman spent 40 years building a mathematical framework he calls the recursive trace logic. It starts with one assumption: consciousness is fundamental, not physics. From there the math takes over. He can already derive time dilation, length contraction, and quantum wave functions from these hidden markov matrices. He has nine open conjectures that, if proven, would subsume both general relativity and quantum field theory as trivial special cases of a more general theory of observation. John Wheeler cited his 1989 book on observer mechanics in the It From Bit paper. Nima Arkani-Hamed and Nobel laureate David Gross are arriving at the same conclusion from the physics side: spacetime is doomed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bqaHVSlVeU

Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
2:04 - Sponsor (Factor)
3:30 - Fitness Beats Perception
7:00 - The Desktop Interface
13:26 - Near-Death & Remote Viewing
20:42 - Disembodied Consciousness
30:13 - Sponsors (Superpower, Qualia)
35:20 - Hacking Perception
46:15 - The Hard Problem
58:13 - Wheeler, Leibniz & Observers
1:01:13 - Recursive Trace Logic
1:15:12 - UAP & The Trace Logic
1:28:23 - Consciousness As Primitive
1:33:25 - Space-Time Is Doomed
1:39:12 - AI, Minsky & Mike Levin
1:47:02 - UFOs At Exit Points
1:53:46 - The Amplituhedron
2:06:41 - Quantum Interpretations
2:21:37 - Higher Intelligences
2:28:06 - Unity of Consciousness
2:34:05 - Do You Believe In God?
2:44:13 - The Table Doesn't Exist
2:52:13 - Infinite Alien Intelligences
3:01:07 - Trace Logic As AI
3:18:38 - Outro


This will be a fantastic matchup. Really looking forward to it.


Got about an hour, maybe and hour twenty left. Wooof. This is fascinating….

The concept of being able to apply mathematics to consciousness is incredible. How they speak of it might as well be Swahili to me. They’re often reeling off theorems I’ve never heard of - in sequence - and then using them as context for their discussion is a little head-spinning but I think I’m keeping up, at least in an abstract, very simple way.


His question in regards to God's existence was quite numinous and thought-provoking.
6/14/2026 4:09:54 PM EDT
[#33]
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
Big one here folks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqLnEVcZ8vE
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If it's not a 3 minute video showing clear footage of an alien speaking and then getting into his vehicle and vanishing, nobody will care and nobody will watch it.  Then they claim there's no such thing as aliens or UFOs.  

The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
6/17/2026 5:55:32 AM EDT
[#34]
Wanna take a ride? [/artbell]

Gifted and Talented Education (GATE) in the United States has been systematically used to identify children with anomalous cognitive and “psychic” abilities and funnel them into covert psychic development programs. Jordan Jozak says he was plucked out of a standard GATE test in rural New York at age nine, the start of a years-long grooming process that pulled him out of his school, away from his parents, and eventually into a facility where he was administered substances and subjected to experiments he was never meant to remember. These experiments involved remote viewing, mind-matter interactions (with random event generators), brain mapping using EEG’s and even remote control flight of UFOs or UAP. Jordan also reveals he was shown an ancient archeological object to see if he could mentally interact with it (he was successful). Jozak was quietly pulled from class for years, told he was special for his precocious ability to visualize and empathize; he was meant to tell no one. His teachers were never informed. When he started resisting around the age of twelve, a fabricated mental health diagnosis was used to remove him from public school entirely despite his parents’ own apprehensions. He was placed at Baker Victory Services, a Catholic-affiliated special education facility in Lackawanna County, Western New York, where a segregated part of the building ran a dual-use defense contractor-backed program while the rest served ordinary special education children. Jozak believes MITRE corporation, which is being actively investigated by Congressman Eric Burlison for its role in UFO legacy efforts, was involved in using Baker Victory Services for this experimental research. This was the plot of Stranger Things playing out in reality across America.
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“I Was Taken By The UFO Program As a Kid!” [Exclusive Interview]


Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
2:55 - Sponsor (Helix Sleep)
4:37 - Guest Intro: Jordan Jozak
10:00 - GATE and Gifted Testing
11:09 - Interactions with Psychologists
16:16 - Stranger Things and the Montauk Comparison
28:12 - ESP Training Begins
37:45 - The Subconscious and Belief
43:11 - Connecting Psi to UFOs
47:46 - The PEAR Lab Data
49:02 - First Encounter with the Relic
52:06 - The Crystal Orb
56:32 - Telepathic Communication
1:03:27 - Esoteric Traditions
1:05:05 - Sponsors (Incogni/MudWtr)
1:07:34 - Piloting UFOs Through Consciousness
1:14:55 - Skywatcher
1:23:17 - Sacred Practices
1:25:57 - Directed Energy
1:27:08 - Crash Retrieval Operations
1:31:15 - The Field Model of Reality
1:32:28 - Extraterrestrial vs Interdimensional
1:43:08 - Boarding School
1:45:45 - MITRE and the Legacy Program
1:50:01 - Project Preserve Destiny
1:54:26 - Andrija Puharich's Space Kids
1:56:39 - Consciousness and Wave Function Collapse
1:59:07 - How Synchronicities Work / Time
2:10:37 - Intentionality
2:15:01 - Hemi-Sync and the Monroe Institute
2:17:14 - An Astral Experience and "Ken"
2:19:40 - Understanding Ourselves
2:23:47 - The Telepathy Center
2:24:15 - Closing Message
2:26:13 - Outro: Editor Job Posting
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6/17/2026 6:04:32 AM EDT
[#35]
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If it's not a 3 minute video showing clear footage of an alien speaking and then getting into his vehicle and vanishing, nobody will care and nobody will watch it.  Then they claim there's no such thing as aliens or UFOs.  

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But theere's us. We care. Good place here
6/17/2026 7:06:40 AM EDT
[#36]
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Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope:
Wanna take a ride? [/artbell]



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiFbeWfA3LM

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Wanna take a ride? [/artbell]

Gifted and Talented Education (GATE) in the United States has been systematically used to identify children with anomalous cognitive and “psychic” abilities and funnel them into covert psychic development programs. Jordan Jozak says he was plucked out of a standard GATE test in rural New York at age nine, the start of a years-long grooming process that pulled him out of his school, away from his parents, and eventually into a facility where he was administered substances and subjected to experiments he was never meant to remember. These experiments involved remote viewing, mind-matter interactions (with random event generators), brain mapping using EEG’s and even remote control flight of UFOs or UAP. Jordan also reveals he was shown an ancient archeological object to see if he could mentally interact with it (he was successful). Jozak was quietly pulled from class for years, told he was special for his precocious ability to visualize and empathize; he was meant to tell no one. His teachers were never informed. When he started resisting around the age of twelve, a fabricated mental health diagnosis was used to remove him from public school entirely despite his parents’ own apprehensions. He was placed at Baker Victory Services, a Catholic-affiliated special education facility in Lackawanna County, Western New York, where a segregated part of the building ran a dual-use defense contractor-backed program while the rest served ordinary special education children. Jozak believes MITRE corporation, which is being actively investigated by Congressman Eric Burlison for its role in UFO legacy efforts, was involved in using Baker Victory Services for this experimental research. This was the plot of Stranger Things playing out in reality across America.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiFbeWfA3LM

Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
2:55 - Sponsor (Helix Sleep)
4:37 - Guest Intro: Jordan Jozak
10:00 - GATE and Gifted Testing
11:09 - Interactions with Psychologists
16:16 - Stranger Things and the Montauk Comparison
28:12 - ESP Training Begins
37:45 - The Subconscious and Belief
43:11 - Connecting Psi to UFOs
47:46 - The PEAR Lab Data
49:02 - First Encounter with the Relic
52:06 - The Crystal Orb
56:32 - Telepathic Communication
1:03:27 - Esoteric Traditions
1:05:05 - Sponsors (Incogni/MudWtr)
1:07:34 - Piloting UFOs Through Consciousness
1:14:55 - Skywatcher
1:23:17 - Sacred Practices
1:25:57 - Directed Energy
1:27:08 - Crash Retrieval Operations
1:31:15 - The Field Model of Reality
1:32:28 - Extraterrestrial vs Interdimensional
1:43:08 - Boarding School
1:45:45 - MITRE and the Legacy Program
1:50:01 - Project Preserve Destiny
1:54:26 - Andrija Puharich's Space Kids
1:56:39 - Consciousness and Wave Function Collapse
1:59:07 - How Synchronicities Work / Time
2:10:37 - Intentionality
2:15:01 - Hemi-Sync and the Monroe Institute
2:17:14 - An Astral Experience and "Ken"
2:19:40 - Understanding Ourselves
2:23:47 - The Telepathy Center
2:24:15 - Closing Message
2:26:13 - Outro: Editor Job Posting


Wow that looks like another banger.

I wonder if the CATS (Creative and Talented Students) program that they had at my grade school (I was not in it ) was affiliated with this somehow, at least in identifying prospects. 🤔
Let's Go Red Wings!

Beautifying the world one logo at a time since 1993.

Soli Deo Gloria
6/17/2026 11:05:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By macman37:


Wow that looks like another banger.

I wonder if the CATS (Creative and Talented Students) program that they had at my grade school (I was not in it ) was affiliated with this somehow, at least in identifying prospects.  
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Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope:
Wanna take a ride? [/artbell]

Gifted and Talented Education (GATE) in the United States has been systematically used to identify children with anomalous cognitive and "psychic" abilities and funnel them into covert psychic development programs. Jordan Jozak says he was plucked out of a standard GATE test in rural New York at age nine, the start of a years-long grooming process that pulled him out of his school, away from his parents, and eventually into a facility where he was administered substances and subjected to experiments he was never meant to remember. These experiments involved remote viewing, mind-matter interactions (with random event generators), brain mapping using EEG's and even remote control flight of UFOs or UAP. Jordan also reveals he was shown an ancient archeological object to see if he could mentally interact with it (he was successful). Jozak was quietly pulled from class for years, told he was special for his precocious ability to visualize and empathize; he was meant to tell no one. His teachers were never informed. When he started resisting around the age of twelve, a fabricated mental health diagnosis was used to remove him from public school entirely despite his parents' own apprehensions. He was placed at Baker Victory Services, a Catholic-affiliated special education facility in Lackawanna County, Western New York, where a segregated part of the building ran a dual-use defense contractor-backed program while the rest served ordinary special education children. Jozak believes MITRE corporation, which is being actively investigated by Congressman Eric Burlison for its role in UFO legacy efforts, was involved in using Baker Victory Services for this experimental research. This was the plot of Stranger Things playing out in reality across America.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiFbeWfA3LM

Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
2:55 - Sponsor (Helix Sleep)
4:37 - Guest Intro: Jordan Jozak
10:00 - GATE and Gifted Testing
11:09 - Interactions with Psychologists
16:16 - Stranger Things and the Montauk Comparison
28:12 - ESP Training Begins
37:45 - The Subconscious and Belief
43:11 - Connecting Psi to UFOs
47:46 - The PEAR Lab Data
49:02 - First Encounter with the Relic
52:06 - The Crystal Orb
56:32 - Telepathic Communication
1:03:27 - Esoteric Traditions
1:05:05 - Sponsors (Incogni/MudWtr)
1:07:34 - Piloting UFOs Through Consciousness
1:14:55 - Skywatcher
1:23:17 - Sacred Practices
1:25:57 - Directed Energy
1:27:08 - Crash Retrieval Operations
1:31:15 - The Field Model of Reality
1:32:28 - Extraterrestrial vs Interdimensional
1:43:08 - Boarding School
1:45:45 - MITRE and the Legacy Program
1:50:01 - Project Preserve Destiny
1:54:26 - Andrija Puharich's Space Kids
1:56:39 - Consciousness and Wave Function Collapse
1:59:07 - How Synchronicities Work / Time
2:10:37 - Intentionality
2:15:01 - Hemi-Sync and the Monroe Institute
2:17:14 - An Astral Experience and "Ken"
2:19:40 - Understanding Ourselves
2:23:47 - The Telepathy Center
2:24:15 - Closing Message
2:26:13 - Outro: Editor Job Posting


Wow that looks like another banger.

I wonder if the CATS (Creative and Talented Students) program that they had at my grade school (I was not in it ) was affiliated with this somehow, at least in identifying prospects.  
The interesting part about GATE is it's a kid-focused offshoot of Project Stargate.  There was a fucking theme with the names.

The puzzle pieces all start to align.  The government's interest in UFO's started a big push to figure out anti-gravity tech because they naturally assumed "if these weird craft can do this, then we can also figure it out".  At some point, they discover a connection to consciousness/telepathy/telekinesis so there's a big push to figure out how to weaponize those abilities and/or control a vehicle with the mind.  Spielberg's "Taken" series addressed the whole "we need to find people with psychic powers who can fly the UFO's" thing back in 2002 long before the link between consciousness and UFO's was a well known part of the lore.
Everything posted above is factual. Maybe.
6/18/2026 2:46:00 PM EDT
[#38]
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Wanna take a ride? [/artbell]



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Thats odd.  I was in GATE from 2nd through 12th grade. The only one that was in the program past 9th.

Nothing that I knew of happened that wasn't education and talent focused.

I did find it odd all the others were selected out as the years progressed. I just figured I was retarded.
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
6/18/2026 5:46:39 PM EDT
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Thats odd.  I was in GATE from 2nd through 12th grade. The only one that was in the program past 9th.

Nothing that I knew of happened that wasn't education and talent focused.

I did find it odd all the others were selected out as the years progressed. I just figured I was retarded.
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 I shouldn't Have just had a hemp gummy right before reading that  
6/18/2026 6:36:38 PM EDT
[#40]
I'll say this, between this and the John Stewart video I posted in the video thread, the discussion may have just changed.
6/18/2026 10:13:25 PM EDT
[#41]
I'm going to leave this here


Scientists Say Earth Is Entering a Part of Space We Don't Understand
6/19/2026 7:58:02 AM EDT
[#42]
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Originally Posted By Cypher214:
The interesting part about GATE is it's a kid-focused offshoot of Project Stargate.  There was a fucking theme with the names.

The puzzle pieces all start to align.  The government's interest in UFO's started a big push to figure out anti-gravity tech because they naturally assumed "if these weird craft can do this, then we can also figure it out".  At some point, they discover a connection to consciousness/telepathy/telekinesis so there's a big push to figure out how to weaponize those abilities and/or control a vehicle with the mind.  Spielberg's "Taken" series addressed the whole "we need to find people with psychic powers who can fly the UFO's" thing back in 2002 long before the link between consciousness and UFO's was a well known part of the lore.
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Originally Posted By macman37:
Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope:
Wanna take a ride? [/artbell]

Gifted and Talented Education (GATE) in the United States has been systematically used to identify children with anomalous cognitive and "psychic" abilities and funnel them into covert psychic development programs. Jordan Jozak says he was plucked out of a standard GATE test in rural New York at age nine, the start of a years-long grooming process that pulled him out of his school, away from his parents, and eventually into a facility where he was administered substances and subjected to experiments he was never meant to remember. These experiments involved remote viewing, mind-matter interactions (with random event generators), brain mapping using EEG's and even remote control flight of UFOs or UAP. Jordan also reveals he was shown an ancient archeological object to see if he could mentally interact with it (he was successful). Jozak was quietly pulled from class for years, told he was special for his precocious ability to visualize and empathize; he was meant to tell no one. His teachers were never informed. When he started resisting around the age of twelve, a fabricated mental health diagnosis was used to remove him from public school entirely despite his parents' own apprehensions. He was placed at Baker Victory Services, a Catholic-affiliated special education facility in Lackawanna County, Western New York, where a segregated part of the building ran a dual-use defense contractor-backed program while the rest served ordinary special education children. Jozak believes MITRE corporation, which is being actively investigated by Congressman Eric Burlison for its role in UFO legacy efforts, was involved in using Baker Victory Services for this experimental research. This was the plot of Stranger Things playing out in reality across America.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiFbeWfA3LM

Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
2:55 - Sponsor (Helix Sleep)
4:37 - Guest Intro: Jordan Jozak
10:00 - GATE and Gifted Testing
11:09 - Interactions with Psychologists
16:16 - Stranger Things and the Montauk Comparison
28:12 - ESP Training Begins
37:45 - The Subconscious and Belief
43:11 - Connecting Psi to UFOs
47:46 - The PEAR Lab Data
49:02 - First Encounter with the Relic
52:06 - The Crystal Orb
56:32 - Telepathic Communication
1:03:27 - Esoteric Traditions
1:05:05 - Sponsors (Incogni/MudWtr)
1:07:34 - Piloting UFOs Through Consciousness
1:14:55 - Skywatcher
1:23:17 - Sacred Practices
1:25:57 - Directed Energy
1:27:08 - Crash Retrieval Operations
1:31:15 - The Field Model of Reality
1:32:28 - Extraterrestrial vs Interdimensional
1:43:08 - Boarding School
1:45:45 - MITRE and the Legacy Program
1:50:01 - Project Preserve Destiny
1:54:26 - Andrija Puharich's Space Kids
1:56:39 - Consciousness and Wave Function Collapse
1:59:07 - How Synchronicities Work / Time
2:10:37 - Intentionality
2:15:01 - Hemi-Sync and the Monroe Institute
2:17:14 - An Astral Experience and "Ken"
2:19:40 - Understanding Ourselves
2:23:47 - The Telepathy Center
2:24:15 - Closing Message
2:26:13 - Outro: Editor Job Posting


Wow that looks like another banger.

I wonder if the CATS (Creative and Talented Students) program that they had at my grade school (I was not in it ) was affiliated with this somehow, at least in identifying prospects.  
The interesting part about GATE is it's a kid-focused offshoot of Project Stargate.  There was a fucking theme with the names.

The puzzle pieces all start to align.  The government's interest in UFO's started a big push to figure out anti-gravity tech because they naturally assumed "if these weird craft can do this, then we can also figure it out".  At some point, they discover a connection to consciousness/telepathy/telekinesis so there's a big push to figure out how to weaponize those abilities and/or control a vehicle with the mind.  Spielberg's "Taken" series addressed the whole "we need to find people with psychic powers who can fly the UFO's" thing back in 2002 long before the link between consciousness and UFO's was a well known part of the lore.


1: very interesting analysis of the disclosure process and addresses the ontological aspect well.

2: another reason why I think (and the Sound, Light, Frequency pod seems to confirm in a roundabout way) that Spielberg took the deal and is part of disclosure

3: I’m about 45 mins into this pod and it is wild. I didn’t know this guy existed but he’s very well prepared and spoken.
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Soli Deo Gloria
6/19/2026 9:17:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tnriverluver][Edited] [#43]
I can only surmise from all this between Jesse’s guest and the John Stewart video I posted, is that one of the two craft that crashed in. Brazil was looking for the survivors of the first crash that we must have shot down.  And then we shot down the second one also and executed those survivors but not before being told about the rescue fleet being sent our way back in 1996.  There is a video posted somewhere where you can hear the Brazilian army shooting at them from off in the distance.
6/20/2026 7:19:17 AM EDT
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Just finished the Weinstein podcast.  I come away from it feeling that it is a little more likely that the UAP program is just a giant psyop made up of mostly BS.   I'm not saying that that IS the answer, just that I think it is more likely than I thought before watching the podcast.  The fact that we have no first hand scientifically accepted proof, all the current reliable sources only have second or third hand "I know a guy who says......" information, and that there are no top tier physicists working on it implies that there is no there there.

Counterbalancing that possibility is the fact that congress and the president  have been briefed on it and reportedly have seen irrefutable proof that these things exist.  I would be stunned if the manbun bureaucrats would be willing to go as far as perpetuating the  psyop on congress and the president.  When the time comes to put up or shut up, congress would be monumentally pissed that they were used for looking into and spreading what turned out to be a lie.


Frustrating.


It's as if a big chunk of our adult population has lost the ability to tell the difference between what is possible, and what is probable.
6/20/2026 10:33:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Birddog15:
Just finished the Weinstein podcast.  I come away from it feeling that it is a little more likely that the UAP program is just a giant psyop made up of mostly BS.   I'm not saying that that IS the answer, just that I think it is more likely than I thought before watching the podcast.  The fact that we have no first hand scientifically accepted proof, all the current reliable sources only have second or third hand "I know a guy who says......" information, and that there are no top tier physicists working on it implies that there is no there there.

Counterbalancing that possibility is the fact that congress and the president  have been briefed on it and reportedly have seen irrefutable proof that these things exist.  I would be stunned if the manbun bureaucrats would be willing to go as far as perpetuating the  psyop on congress and the president.  When the time comes to put up or shut up, congress would be monumentally pissed that they were used for looking into and spreading what turned out to be a lie.


Frustrating.


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My only thing about this is if it was BS… I think Weinstein would have said so.

I got the impression (and this is admittedly 100% PURE speculation on my part here) he was relieved to be read in on it after having to game the entire thing out from the outside - ingeniously I might add - and if it was smoke and mirrors BS, I think he’d be the first one to step up and say what needs to be said.
Let's Go Red Wings!

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Soli Deo Gloria
6/20/2026 3:27:34 PM EDT
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My only thing about this is if it was BS… I think Weinstein would have said so.

I got the impression (and this is admittedly 100% PURE speculation on my part here) he was relieved to be read in on it after having to game the entire thing out from the outside - ingeniously I might add - and if it was smoke and mirrors BS, I think he’d be the first one to step up and say what needs to be said.
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Yup.  He has stated that he believes there is something real regarding the UAP's.  But all of his great questions and points at the beginning of the podcast still stand.  Are we really so stupid as to have tried and failed to figure out how these things work for 50 years, and yet have never thought to put a bunch of top physicists on it?  It makes no sense to him (or me).

Trump needs to create an amnesty period for folks to safely come forward with what they know.  Get it done.  


It's as if a big chunk of our adult population has lost the ability to tell the difference between what is possible, and what is probable.
6/20/2026 7:12:37 PM EDT
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I think enough of us here have seen enough to know the UAP thing is not BS and is absolutely real being shown in ancient carvings 1,000s of years old not to mention every religious text.  Sure we have shit of our own probably flying to the stars now as well but you cannot right off alien craft being real. just my humble opinion.  I’ve witnessed too much now in this lifetime.  Maybe way too much.
It’s much more than material craft and bodies but I do believe they exist also.
Hard to imagine our government  had the ability to make people see things like this in their minds all the way back in 1933.
6/20/2026 7:40:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tnriverluver][Edited] [#48]
Wrong thread, again!
6/20/2026 11:45:20 PM EDT
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Looks like soon it’s crossover time… the guys from Sound, Light and Frequency will be on a 3.5 hour ep of American Alchemy soon. It’s for members only now.

Evidently Brent Friedman discloses he was visited by a Nordic alien?!

[tweet]https://x.com/alchemyamerican/status/2068442405079072923?s=61[/tweet]
Let's Go Red Wings!

Beautifying the world one logo at a time since 1993.

Soli Deo Gloria
6/21/2026 10:37:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tnriverluver][Edited] [#50]
Now live for non members,  looks like a great watch .  So realistically they’ve been prepping humanity for the past many decades but in my mind the question is who is leading the charge in prepping us.  Humans or the aliens?

Hollywood, The CIA & UFOs: The History Beyond Spielberg

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