Posted: 7/25/2025 10:54:25 AM EDT
| The Glock and the FN509 both require a trigger pull. For all the P320's legitimate faults, I have to admit I like the way it disassembles (ie just lock the slide back, rotate the lever, and release the slide forward) and wish other gun companies could replicate it. |
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There are LOTS of pistols that use a takedown lever to field strip the arm. If they are hammer fired, they almost always DO NOT require any activity other than taken lever motion. Even some of the striker fired pistols with such levers do not require other motions. The SIG 320, for all its other issues, is not unique in its ability to be field stripped using the lever alone. |
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I mean, other than just about every metal-framed Beretta...and all the metal framed Sigs...lots of non-1911 Springfields like the XD series and Echelon series...Lugers...P38s... In fact, the only guns I can think of that don't take down that way are 1911s/BHPs/variants, and polymer framed guns that you pull down a block on... |
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Quoted: I mean, other than just about every metal-framed Beretta...and all the metal framed Sigs...lots of non-1911 Springfields like the XD series and Echelon series...Lugers...P38s... In fact, the only guns I can think of that don't take down that way are 1911s/BHPs/variants, and polymer framed guns that you pull down a block on... only second gen XDs the first gen guns require pulling the trigger, and to clarify for those that don't know 1911s or Hi powers don't require pulling the trigger he is refering to the fact that you remove the slide stop lever to take them down... others would be Makaroves pull down trigger guard and CZ 70s and their clones ya vave a push button etc... generally only partially cocked striker fired guns require pulling the trigger in order to un cock the partial condition so the striker goes forward, some single action striker fired guns as well but most use a decocking linkage via the lever mentioned to do it now adays do to peoples inability to check clear chamber before pulling the trigger |
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Quoted: M&P series. You also have to push down a small lever located below the firing pin hole to disassemble M&Ps (and even the new S&W mini-shield Bodyguard 2.0). Attached File It’s the yellow S-shape thing in the photo. |
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Having to pull the trigger to do takedown for cleaning has always been considered one of the safety faults with the Glock design, and most pistols designed after the Glock took over the market have corrected that fault. Why Glock has never fixed their design is mostly due to the ego of Gaston Glock who always said his design was perfect with no problems or faults. Edit: Only after Gaston Glock died was the Glock company willing to put a manual safety on their pistols to meet requirements for military contracts, and maybe Glock may even finally be willing to fix this fault. |
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Quoted: Having to pull the trigger to do takedown for cleaning has always been considered one of the safety faults with the Glock design, and most pistols designed after the Glock took over the market have corrected that fault. Why Glock has never fixed their design is mostly due to the ego of Gaston Glock who always said his design was perfect with no problems or faults. The Glock 46 does not require a trigger press, also the Gen 6 pistols are supposed to be no trigger press required for take down. |
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Quoted: You also have to push down a small lever located below the firing pin hole to disassemble M&Ps (and even the new S&W mini-shield Bodyguard 2.0). https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/170153/IMG_0992_jpeg-3593981.JPG It’s the yellow S-shape thing in the photo. That's only if you do not want to pull the trigger. Easiest way is to lock the slide back, use the takedown tool to push the lever down through the ejection port, and then release the slide (without pulling the trigger). |
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Quoted: Having to pull the trigger to do takedown for cleaning has always been considered one of the safety faults with the Glock design, and most pistols designed after the Glock took over the market have corrected that fault. Why Glock has never fixed their design is mostly due to the ego of Gaston Glock who always said his design was perfect with no problems or faults. Edit: Only after Gaston Glock died was the Glock company willing to put a manual safety on their pistols to meet requirements for military contracts, and maybe Glock may even finally be willing to fix this fault. If you’re stupid enough to try cleaning a loaded pistol you’re too stupid to have access to a pistol. |
