Iran Official Happening Thread: Operation Epic Fury (Page 741 of 744)
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Originally Posted By realwar: He was at the very top of that mountain. The IRGC had 1,500 people looking for him in and around that area. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2026-09-14_at_08-46-31__4__Ho-3827206.JPG Looked on google maps. There's a fishing club and equestrian club right down the street from there. Weird. |
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Reuters: Iran war cost hits $38 billion, forecast to rise $3 billion a month, CBO says The six-month-old U.S. war against Iran has cost $38 billion so far and that amount is projected to rise by $3 billion a month, Congress' nonpartisan bookkeeper reported on Tuesday, as the Trump administration searches for ways to end the conflict and reopen the vital Strait of Hormuz. The war is expected to increase inflation by 0.5% in the first three months of 2027, according to the Congressional Budget Office accounting, which totaled expenses through August 1. The Reuters Iran Briefing newsletter keeps you informed with the latest developments and analysis of the Iran war. Sign up here. The mounting costs have strained U.S. munitions stockpiles and driven up energy prices, raising concerns about the country's ability to respond to other potential conflicts and adding pressure on an already stretched federal budget. The cost was close to the $37.5 billion that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth reported at a Senate hearing on July 21. The budget office said the majority of the costs stem from the rapid drawdown of munitions, estimating that it could take five years to replenish U.S. stockpiles. Reuters reported in August that the U.S. had used "virtually all" of its long-range precision missiles during the war. The Department of Defense did not cooperate with congressional financial auditors, CBO reported. White House spokeswoman Anna Kelly described President Donald Trump's attacks on Iran as "decisive action" to prevent Tehran from harming U.S. personnel or interests. She said in a statement that the U.S. military has "more than enough munitions, ammo, and stockpiles to serve all of the Commander-in-Chief’s strategic goals and beyond.” Chief Pentagon spokesperson Sean Parnell disputed the report's findings of munitions shortages and said, "We have everything required to strike at the time and place of the president’s choosing." The cost inquiry was conducted at the request of the top Democrat on the U.S. House of Representatives Budget Committee, Brendan Boyle of Pennsylvania. “Donald Trump’s disastrous war in Iran has already taken the lives of brave American servicemembers and left others wounded," Boyle said in a statement. "Beyond that human toll, this nonpartisan CBO report makes clear that the war has also cost American taxpayers tens of billions of dollars and counting, while continuing to drive up costs." Eighteen U.S. military service members have died in the Iran war. The report did not include costs of recent strikes on commercial vessels in the Strait of Hormuz and attacks on U.S. military installations in the region. It also did not factor in the borrowing expenses associated with financing the war, which could add tens of billions of dollars to the total cost. IMPACT ON US READINESS The CBO accounting found the war could have sprawling consequences for the U.S. defense posture and the domestic economy. The deficit in critical munitions, including missile interceptors, risks hampering the Pentagon's response in the event of another major conflict, such as potential hostilities involving China and Taiwan, CBO said. At the July hearing in the Senate, Hegseth pleaded for nearly $90 billion in emergency funding to restock munitions supplies. “Without these funds, we face critical shortfalls,” Hegseth said. The Pentagon’s inspector general reported this week that Iran had damaged or destroyed hundreds of buildings on U.S. bases in the Middle East as well as aircraft including fighter jets, refueling planes and drones. It put the war cost through June 19 at $33.4 billion, saying the amount included about $184 million in damages to U.S. diplomatic facilities from Iranian strikes. Energy shocks caused by attacks in the Strait of Hormuz — the narrow waterway through which roughly 20% of the world's oil traveled before the war — and on energy facilities in neighboring Gulf countries have sharply increased prices for consumers and global producers. The rising cost of the war also threatens to weigh on deteriorating U.S. fiscal health. The nation's total public debt surpassed $40 trillion in August. Trump regularly contrasts the Iran war with the U.S. invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan that followed the September 11, 2001, attacks. The eight-year U.S. war in Iraq, which involved more than 100,000 ground troops at its peak, cost $2 trillion, Reuters reported. The two-decade-long U.S. conflict in Afghanistan, which also involved more than 100,000 troops at its most intense,cost $2.3 trillion, according to Brown University's Costs of War project. Reporting by Jacob Bogage; Additional reporting by Idrees Ali; Editing by Colleen Jenkins, Don Durfee and Cynthia Osterman
Photos are all undated--more in CBS report linked below Attached File Attached File Full CBS news story New photos obtained exclusively by CBS News reveal for the first time the widespread damage and destruction of buildings and vehicles at multiple U.S. positions across the Middle East, as a result of Iranian missile and drone attacks. The images were sent to CBS News by active service members on condition of anonymity because of rigid media restrictions within the military. "This is major damage to our bases that hasn't been communicated to the American public," one deployed service member told CBS News. "We're standing there with our eyes closed getting punched in the face." One photo, taken at Prince Sultan Air Force Base in Saudi Arabia, shows a direct hit on the back half of a Boeing E-3 Sentry four-engine aircraft, its tail severed from the charred fuselage that also supported a rotating radar that is essential for collecting midair intelligence. Undated photo of trailers destroyed by Iranian strike, Camp Buehring, Kuwait Other photos taken from the base show hollowed-out buildings and barracks whose shells ironically stand next to unaffected cement "T-wall" structures, which were once regarded as critical fortifications against grenade and mortar attacks but proved critically ineffective against an aerial assault. Similarly grim pictures were captured at Camp Buehring in Kuwait, a major staging area for U.S. Army ground troops, armored vehicles and some aircraft; the post is located in a remote desert region far northwest of Kuwait City. The Defense Department's inspector general this week released a fresh report on the war in Iran that revealed "equipment losses" worth up to $3.7 billion — including nearly 60 aircraft. In a first-of-its-kind mandatory report to Congress, the inspector general added that U.S. Central Command reported Iranian strikes at U.S. bases in Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Oman and Jordan. The Pentagon did not respond to a request for comment. "These are not 'squirters' getting through," the service member added, referencing language used by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth after the deadly March 1 attack on Port of Shuaiba in Kuwait that killed six U.S. troops. "We're not defending these bases. We're just watching them get destroyed." |
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Originally Posted By Mercworx: Tousi and the guy from Athiest Republic are great for gathering internal content from Iran. However both are way too emotionally invested (for obvious reasons) and overly optimistic. I maintain the position that most Iranians don’t actually care about the regime being in power. The same was true about the 13 British colonies in North America circa 1775. Doesn't mean change isn't coming. |
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Originally Posted By Rick-OShay: The same was true about the 13 British colonies in North America circa 1775. Doesn't mean change isn't coming. And as I keep saying, there’s a world of differences, psychological and otherwise between those men in 1775 and most people in current day Iran. |
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Originally Posted By michigan66:
Reuters: Iran war cost hits $38 billion, forecast to rise $3 billion a month, CBO says
Photos are all undated--more in CBS report linked below https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/501718/IMG_7318_jpeg-3827840.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/501718/IMG_7319_jpeg-3827835.JPG Full CBS news story Fuck the press. They hand BDA to the Iranians on a silver platter. |
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A new Congressional Budget Office report on the costs of Operation Epic Fury was released today, and it contains a notable table detailing U.S. battle losses. The table lists the loss of two KC-135 Stratotankers and one F-35A. To date, the Department of War has publicly acknowledged the loss of only one KC-135, which was destroyed in a crash over western Iraq. The Department has also acknowledged that multiple KC-135s were damaged during an Iranian strike on Prince Sultan Air Base in Saudi Arabia. The inclusion of an F-35A in the CBO's battle-loss table also appears to confirm the first combat loss of an F-35. Attached File |
"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
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Originally Posted By michigan66:
Reuters: Iran war cost hits $38 billion, forecast to rise $3 billion a month, CBO says
Photos are all undated--more in CBS report linked below https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/501718/IMG_7318_jpeg-3827840.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/501718/IMG_7319_jpeg-3827835.JPG Full CBS news story Originally Posted By michigan66:
Reuters: Iran war cost hits $38 billion, forecast to rise $3 billion a month, CBO says The six-month-old U.S. war against Iran has cost $38 billion so far and that amount is projected to rise by $3 billion a month, Congress' nonpartisan bookkeeper reported on Tuesday, as the Trump administration searches for ways to end the conflict and reopen the vital Strait of Hormuz. The war is expected to increase inflation by 0.5% in the first three months of 2027, according to the Congressional Budget Office accounting, which totaled expenses through August 1. The Reuters Iran Briefing newsletter keeps you informed with the latest developments and analysis of the Iran war. Sign up here. The mounting costs have strained U.S. munitions stockpiles and driven up energy prices, raising concerns about the country's ability to respond to other potential conflicts and adding pressure on an already stretched federal budget. The cost was close to the $37.5 billion that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth reported at a Senate hearing on July 21. The budget office said the majority of the costs stem from the rapid drawdown of munitions, estimating that it could take five years to replenish U.S. stockpiles. Reuters reported in August that the U.S. had used "virtually all" of its long-range precision missiles during the war. The Department of Defense did not cooperate with congressional financial auditors, CBO reported. White House spokeswoman Anna Kelly described President Donald Trump's attacks on Iran as "decisive action" to prevent Tehran from harming U.S. personnel or interests. She said in a statement that the U.S. military has "more than enough munitions, ammo, and stockpiles to serve all of the Commander-in-Chief’s strategic goals and beyond.” Chief Pentagon spokesperson Sean Parnell disputed the report's findings of munitions shortages and said, "We have everything required to strike at the time and place of the president’s choosing." The cost inquiry was conducted at the request of the top Democrat on the U.S. House of Representatives Budget Committee, Brendan Boyle of Pennsylvania. “Donald Trump’s disastrous war in Iran has already taken the lives of brave American servicemembers and left others wounded," Boyle said in a statement. "Beyond that human toll, this nonpartisan CBO report makes clear that the war has also cost American taxpayers tens of billions of dollars and counting, while continuing to drive up costs." Eighteen U.S. military service members have died in the Iran war. The report did not include costs of recent strikes on commercial vessels in the Strait of Hormuz and attacks on U.S. military installations in the region. It also did not factor in the borrowing expenses associated with financing the war, which could add tens of billions of dollars to the total cost. IMPACT ON US READINESS The CBO accounting found the war could have sprawling consequences for the U.S. defense posture and the domestic economy. The deficit in critical munitions, including missile interceptors, risks hampering the Pentagon's response in the event of another major conflict, such as potential hostilities involving China and Taiwan, CBO said. At the July hearing in the Senate, Hegseth pleaded for nearly $90 billion in emergency funding to restock munitions supplies. “Without these funds, we face critical shortfalls,” Hegseth said. The Pentagon’s inspector general reported this week that Iran had damaged or destroyed hundreds of buildings on U.S. bases in the Middle East as well as aircraft including fighter jets, refueling planes and drones. It put the war cost through June 19 at $33.4 billion, saying the amount included about $184 million in damages to U.S. diplomatic facilities from Iranian strikes. Energy shocks caused by attacks in the Strait of Hormuz — the narrow waterway through which roughly 20% of the world's oil traveled before the war — and on energy facilities in neighboring Gulf countries have sharply increased prices for consumers and global producers. The rising cost of the war also threatens to weigh on deteriorating U.S. fiscal health. The nation's total public debt surpassed $40 trillion in August. Trump regularly contrasts the Iran war with the U.S. invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan that followed the September 11, 2001, attacks. The eight-year U.S. war in Iraq, which involved more than 100,000 ground troops at its peak, cost $2 trillion, Reuters reported. The two-decade-long U.S. conflict in Afghanistan, which also involved more than 100,000 troops at its most intense,cost $2.3 trillion, according to Brown University's Costs of War project. Reporting by Jacob Bogage; Additional reporting by Idrees Ali; Editing by Colleen Jenkins, Don Durfee and Cynthia Osterman
Photos are all undated--more in CBS report linked below https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/501718/IMG_7318_jpeg-3827840.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/501718/IMG_7319_jpeg-3827835.JPG Full CBS news story New photos obtained exclusively by CBS News reveal for the first time the widespread damage and destruction of buildings and vehicles at multiple U.S. positions across the Middle East, as a result of Iranian missile and drone attacks. The images were sent to CBS News by active service members on condition of anonymity because of rigid media restrictions within the military. "This is major damage to our bases that hasn't been communicated to the American public," one deployed service member told CBS News. "We're standing there with our eyes closed getting punched in the face." One photo, taken at Prince Sultan Air Force Base in Saudi Arabia, shows a direct hit on the back half of a Boeing E-3 Sentry four-engine aircraft, its tail severed from the charred fuselage that also supported a rotating radar that is essential for collecting midair intelligence. Undated photo of trailers destroyed by Iranian strike, Camp Buehring, Kuwait Other photos taken from the base show hollowed-out buildings and barracks whose shells ironically stand next to unaffected cement "T-wall" structures, which were once regarded as critical fortifications against grenade and mortar attacks but proved critically ineffective against an aerial assault. Similarly grim pictures were captured at Camp Buehring in Kuwait, a major staging area for U.S. Army ground troops, armored vehicles and some aircraft; the post is located in a remote desert region far northwest of Kuwait City. The Defense Department's inspector general this week released a fresh report on the war in Iran that revealed "equipment losses" worth up to $3.7 billion — including nearly 60 aircraft. In a first-of-its-kind mandatory report to Congress, the inspector general added that U.S. Central Command reported Iranian strikes at U.S. bases in Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Oman and Jordan. The Pentagon did not respond to a request for comment. "These are not 'squirters' getting through," the service member added, referencing language used by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth after the deadly March 1 attack on Port of Shuaiba in Kuwait that killed six U.S. troops. "We're not defending these bases. We're just watching them get destroyed." Weren't pics of the burnt AWACS all over the net days after it happened? Or is this a second one from recent strikes? |
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Originally Posted By michigan66:
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Originally Posted By Clockwork138: Weren't pics of the burnt AWACS all over the net days after it happened? Or is this a second one from recent strikes? You're right, there were pictures of the AWACS out there already. I'd forgotten about that. This is the same plane. |
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Originally Posted By bondservant2: Wait....is this real..? I get the Tokyo Rose effect of not sharing negative info, but that looks like we have been getting slapped around.. It's real. Page 18 of the CBO document--direct link to PDF. |
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It sucks but they only bright side is that this is a limited conflict far from our borders. hopefully lessons will be learned and better tactics and weapons will be put forward quickly. |
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Originally Posted By michigan66: You're right, there were pictures of the AWACS out there already. I'd forgotten about that. This is the same plane. Originally Posted By michigan66: Originally Posted By Clockwork138: Weren't pics of the burnt AWACS all over the net days after it happened? Or is this a second one from recent strikes? You're right, there were pictures of the AWACS out there already. I'd forgotten about that. This is the same plane. It's not your fault domestic news outlets are recycling old news (for obvious reasons). |
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Originally Posted By dukeofearl: To say "the war will be over after the midterms" is pretty open ended. What are the metrics for the end of the war? Even the most basic one, nobody shooting at ships in the straight of Hormuz seems like quite an ask at this point. |
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Originally Posted By bondservant2: Wait....is this real..? I get the Tokyo Rose effect of not sharing negative info, but that looks like we have been getting slapped around.. Originally Posted By bondservant2: Originally Posted By michigan66:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/501718/IMG_7321_png-3827887.JPG Wait....is this real..? I get the Tokyo Rose effect of not sharing negative info, but that looks like we have been getting slapped around.. I have to honestly ask. Do you think the US is untouchable? |
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Originally Posted By MudEagle: A couple aircraft destroyed on the ground by drones is not, erm, "slapped around". Originally Posted By MudEagle: Originally Posted By bondservant2: Wait....is this real..? I get the Tokyo Rose effect of not sharing negative info, but that looks like we have been getting slapped around.. A couple aircraft destroyed on the ground by drones is not, erm, "slapped around". Iran is launching missiles and drones all over the place and the vast majority have been intercepted but it's impossible to get them all. Considering the numbers, it's extremely fucking impressive how many have never reached their target but the ignorant among us think any American equipment getting hit is a massive loss/embarrassment. The media loves it. |
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Gas better come down soon, it's getting ugly out there.. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: People have grown too accustomed to the Iraq/Afghanistan style combat where the only risks are from assholes on the ground with AK's, RPG's, and improvised explosives. Iran is launching missiles and drones all over the place and the vast majority have been intercepted but it's impossible to get them all. Considering the numbers, it's extremely fucking impressive how many have never reached their target but the ignorant among us think any American equipment getting hit is a massive loss/embarrassment. The media loves it. Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By MudEagle: Originally Posted By bondservant2: Wait....is this real..? I get the Tokyo Rose effect of not sharing negative info, but that looks like we have been getting slapped around.. A couple aircraft destroyed on the ground by drones is not, erm, "slapped around". Iran is launching missiles and drones all over the place and the vast majority have been intercepted but it's impossible to get them all. Considering the numbers, it's extremely fucking impressive how many have never reached their target but the ignorant among us think any American equipment getting hit is a massive loss/embarrassment. The media loves it. What’s not impressive is the fact the lights are still on in their cities. |
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Originally Posted By realwar: Gas better come down soon, it's getting ugly out there.. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2026-09-15_at_18-50-41_Marjor-3827961.JPG The voters in Washington state allegedly voted to pass (I say voter fraud) that non-sense called the “Climate Commitment Act” which has raised energy prices across that state tremendously. My wife and I have since moved from that shithole. |
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Originally Posted By realwar: Gas better come down soon, it's getting ugly out there.. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2026-09-15_at_18-50-41_Marjor-3827961.JPG @name cannot be blank The diesel tax is real bro. Maybe you should buy a prius or an EV. 
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This came out yesterday but I missed it Attached File
Full WSJ article referenced in X post The U.S. military fired up to 70 or more of its high-end air defense interceptors last week when Iran launched a missile attack on Jordan, U.S. and regional officials familiar with the matter said, a heavy expenditure that underscores Iran’s improved ability to target U.S. forces and challenge American air defenses. U.S. forces fired 60 to 70 Patriot interceptors to counter the attack, which consisted of about 20 ballistic missiles, some of the officials said. The U.S. also fired more than a dozen Thaad interceptors, one of the officials said. The expenditure is about what the U.S. has used in a full week at other times in the war, another of the officials said. The exchanges showed how air-defense math can favor the attacker and how Iran has adapted its attacks to force the U.S. to burn precious munitions. The nature of the attack made it more difficult to counter. Iran targeted American troops with warheads that separate into more numerous projectiles as they close in on their target, the officials said. The defenses didn’t stop everything. While no troops were killed in the attack last week, Iran managed to hit jet fighters and other aircraft at the Muwaffaq Salti Air Base in Jordan, one of the officials said. Throughout the war, Iran’s attacks have grown increasingly complex, with the regime using different missile varieties, trajectories, maneuvers and warheads to try to overwhelm U.S. defenses, officials say. In July, Iran killed three U.S. servicemembers in one of those missile attacks on Jordan. Iran acquired high-resolution satellite images of the base from Chinese entities before the attack, U.S. officials familiar with the details of the incident said. “These types of new tactics that we’re seeing show that the Iranians continue to adapt, continue to learn, continue to experiment, see what works, what doesn’t work,” said Fabian Hinz, an expert on Iran’s missile force with Conflict Armament Research. A spokesman for U.S. Central Command, which oversees the Middle East, declined to comment. Jordanian officials declined to comment. “Reports suggesting that the United States’ munitions are depleted are completely false,” Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell said. “The U.S. military remains the strongest and most capable fighting force in the world.” President Trump said Monday on social media that the U.S. has large numbers of interceptors in stock and is ramping up production. Lockheed Martin, which makes the Patriots, produced a record 620 of the interceptors in 2025 and has a goal of reaching roughly 2,000 a year. A new report this week by the Defense Department’s inspector general says the war “has resulted in strategic inventory shortfalls and revealed industrial base bottlenecks for munitions resupply.” The U.S. and Iran are locked in a race between Iran’s ballistic missile capacity and American stockpiles of interceptors to knock them down. Iran has managed to dig out missiles trapped in underground facilities by U.S. attacks early in the war and has recently resumed production of new missiles from stockpiled parts. The U.S. and its allies, meanwhile, face production bottlenecks that have put pressure on supplies of interceptors across the region, Arab and U.S. officials said. The war in Iran has drained American supplies of missile interceptors and highly accurate offensive weapons. Military planners worry the U.S. has rushed so many munitions to the Middle East that America’s ability to defend against potential threats from China and Russia has been diminished, The Wall Street Journal has reported. Space Force’s Gen. Chance Saltzman says more missiles ‘have been launched in the last three years than all years before combined.’ U.S. inventories in Europe of PAC-3 Patriot air defense interceptors and Atacms surface-to-surface missiles are deemed by some U.S. officials to be beyond critical and rebuilding the stockpiles could take years, the Journal reported. Adm. Brad Cooper, head of the U.S. Central Command, told CBS newsmagazine “60 Minutes” this week that he isn’t concerned at all about shortages of interceptors and that the military is ready for any contingency. The supply strains have set off a scramble for interceptors among Gulf and other Middle East nations in Iran’s crosshairs and has weakened Ukraine’s ability to defend itself against Russian airstrikes. A debate over munitions stockpiles along with diplomatic efforts at the time contributed to Trump’s decision in late July to forgo an intensive series of strikes on Iran that could have lasted two weeks, the Journal has reported. The Journal has reported that by mid-July, the U.S. had expended about 1,700 Patriot air defense interceptors and more than 200 Thaad antimissile interceptors in the war, officials have said. U.S. Navy ships had fired another 150 Standard Missile interceptors to take out Iranian missiles and drones. The Iranian attacks on Jordan grew out of an escalating exchange of fire as Tehran tries to break a tightening American economic chokehold. After Iran fired missiles that came close to U.S. warships in the region, the U.S. military responded by destroying five Iranian oil tankers. In response, Iran attacked U.S. troops in Jordan, taking aim at a target it has fired at repeatedly over the summer. “This has been the Iranian objective all along, to make the kind of the U.S. presence in the region unsustainable and costly,” said Hamidreza Azizi, a senior Iran analyst at International Crisis Group, a think tank based in Brussels. “So now it seems that Jordan is also not as safe as it used to be.” The attacks show how Iran continues to be able to use its missile arsenal to put pressure on the U.S. military and allied countries in the region. Any prospect of an escalation in the fighting is alarming to America’s allies in the Persian Gulf. They are concerned about their own declining stockpiles after repelling thousands of missile and drone attacks from Iran during more than six months of war. Gulf states have lobbied the U.S. for more interceptors since early in the war and have scoured the world for other sources with mixed results. At one point Israel sent one of its closely guarded Iron Dome systems to the United Arab Emirates along with troops to operate it.
Wall Street Journal: US authorities are investigating whether Iran carried out cyberattacks against at least two foreign tankers that were en route from the Mediterranean to the US and crossed the Strait of Gibraltar in August. The concern in the US is that Iran has begun to expand the confrontation in the Middle East using non-kinetic means to additional regions Article mentioned in X post At least two foreign tankers bound for American shores were targeted in cyberattacks now under U.S. government investigation, fueling concerns that Iran or other adversaries are seeking to widen the Middle East conflict, according to U.S. officials familiar with the incidents. A specialized team led by the U.S. Coast Guard that included Federal Bureau of Investigation agents boarded the two tankers in August after they arrived in the Gulf of Mexico, the officials said. The inspection of the foreign-flagged vessels “were designed to ensure integrity of the vessel’s operational and information technology systems following indications that the networks of both vessels were compromised,” according to Coast Guard and FBI statements. The boardings occurred on Aug. 21 and 24, the FBI said. The tankers were transiting the Strait of Gibraltar earlier in August when they were attacked, according to ship tracking data and one of the officials. That location, as well as the destination of the ships, is likely to raise concerns that the attackers were trying to disrupt a key maritime chokepoint or attack a U.S. port. The vessels were carrying oil and liquefied natural gas, raising the risk of an explosion, a collision or an oil spill. Ships run on integrated systems that, if compromised, could shut down the engine or force the crew to lose control of navigation. The Coast Guard and FBI declined to say how many cyberattack cases they have investigated since the war with Iran began. U.S. authorities haven’t confirmed whether Iran or another adversary like Russia or China is behind the attacks. But officials say they are concerned the recent incidents are opening up a new front in the seven-month war. Bloomberg News earlier reported one of the boardings. The U.S. and Iran have been locked in a battle to control the Strait of Hormuz, a strategic waterway off Iran’s coast that allows for the transit of a significant portion of the world’s oil supply. Iran has attacked commercial ships trying to transit without permission or first paying a toll, prompting the U.S. to retaliate. The Iran-backed Houthis are exerting control over another critical waterway known as the Bab al-Mandeb Strait at the mouth of the Red Sea. Iran and its proxies have sought to choke off oil shipments to pressure the U.S. and its allies in the Persian Gulf. Similar to those chokepoints, the Strait of Gibraltar is critical for global energy markets. Each day, roughly 300 ships transit the waterway, which connects the Mediterranean Sea with the Atlantic Ocean. Experts have warned cyberattacks on ships can be extraordinarily dangerous, depending upon the sophistication and the type of vessel involved. The Coast Guard has specialized teams trained to respond to and investigate these kinds of attacks. Earlier this year, the teams boarded several dark fleet vessels seized by the U.S. to ensure that the ships’ systems weren’t compromised before arriving in the U.S. or at other ports. “For a vessel that’s carrying tens of millions of gallons of crude oil, which is highly volatile, there’s always a risk of fire explosion,” Rear Adm. Jason Tama, head of the Coast Guard’s Cyber Command, told The Wall Street Journal in June. “The atmosphere in the tanks has to be very carefully managed to ensure that you’re not going to get a situation where there’s a fire explosion. And then there’s always a risk of an oil spill.”
Houthi @MMY1444 military spokesman Yahya Saree @Yah_Saree has officially claimed that Houthi forces shot down a Saudi @modgovksa F-15 fighter jet over Yemen’s Marib Governorate using a locally manufactured surface-to-air missile. Saree said Saudi F-15 and Typhoon fighter jets carried out more than 450 airstrikes this week after taking off from air bases in Khamis Mushait and Taif. He said the strikes targeted Taiz, Lahij, Al-Jawf, Hajjah, Marib, Saada, Al-Bayda and other areas, resulting in civilian casualties. He also claimed Houthi forces later confronted formations of Saudi F-15 and Typhoon aircraft over Marib as they searched for the wreckage of the downed jet, forcing them to withdraw. |
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Originally Posted By xd341: I'm no master of orbital mechanics, but to have one "shatter" seems like it might take more than hacking. I could see getting one to burn back in through the atmosphere....but on orbit, just coming apart? I feel like an outside influence would be required. There is a lot junk just up there zipping around at mach fuck.  Originally Posted By xd341: Originally Posted By stone-age: We currently have robot battles on the front lines of Ukraine. How far are we from satelite battles? I expect hacking is the first weapon and maybe the reason why that satellite just fell apart. There is a lot junk just up there zipping around at mach fuck. Hack the controls. Command a high rate rotation, or a high rate angular deceleration. Break things off. |
Keep your powder dry, and watch your back trail.
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Originally Posted By Hesperus: And as I keep saying, there’s a world of differences, psychological and otherwise between those men in 1775 and most people in current day Iran. Don't discount expatriat Persians as agents of change. |
Why not (\/) (;,,;) (\/) Zoidberg?
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Originally Posted By bondservant2: Wait....is this real..? I get the Tokyo Rose effect of not sharing negative info, but that looks like we have been getting slapped around.. Originally Posted By bondservant2: Originally Posted By michigan66:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/501718/IMG_7321_png-3827887.JPG Wait....is this real..? I get the Tokyo Rose effect of not sharing negative info, but that looks like we have been getting slapped around.. To be fair, the KC-135s would be headed to the boneyard at DMAFB as soon as USAF can pull its head out of its ass re: new tankers. |
Why not (\/) (;,,;) (\/) Zoidberg?
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Originally Posted By USMC_JA: Fuck the press. They hand BDA to the Iranians on a silver platter. |
Coyote with 40 people crammed into a minivan gets into a chase with DPS, Paco over estimates his driving abilities and *whmmo!* the Astrovan of Immigration becomes a Pinata of Pain, hurling broken bodies like so many tasty pieces of cheap candy...
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Originally Posted By Hesperus: And as I keep saying, there’s a world of differences, psychological and otherwise between those men in 1775 and most people in current day Iran. Originally Posted By Hesperus: Originally Posted By Rick-OShay: The same was true about the 13 British colonies in North America circa 1775. Doesn't mean change isn't coming. And as I keep saying, there’s a world of differences, psychological and otherwise between those men in 1775 and most people in current day Iran. Agreed. Iran is closer to North Korea than Venezuela regarding installing a new government. They're the types to follow Kim II and use anti-aircraft cannons to "disperse" anti-government protestors and people who speak against the government. That kind of overkill of the radical islam beheading with dull blade and killing everybody suspected of anything and spying worse than Scientology makes it hard to even talk about arranging a Tea Party, let alone overthrowing the government, especially with China backing them fully. |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By realwar: Gas better come down soon, it's getting ugly out there.. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2026-09-15_at_18-50-41_Marjor-3827961.JPG What happened on Valentine's Day? 2-14 to 3-14 is where it took off like mad.,not sure what the event was. 
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The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By brass: What happened on Valentine's Day? 2-14 to 3-14 is where it took off like mad.,not sure what the event was. https://i.imgur.com/UHW1XJG.gif Without checking first, Id say that was the start of the war ETA: 2.28 is when we performed the first strikes. Aligns with the chart |
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Originally Posted By Im_Awake:I can't say it enough. Thank you guys (especially Chokey and Michigan66) for keeping this thread updated. Really appreciate it.  Originally Posted By Im_Awake:I can't say it enough. Thank you guys (especially Chokey and Michigan66) for keeping this thread updated. Really appreciate it.
I am listening to a podcast that showcases national defense and energy, yet some of the statements do not match the realities. The first statement asserted that Saudi Arabia is exporting no oil. That is not accurate. While the pipeline has been damaged, the Saudis are shipping oil out via Hormuz and the U.S.-escorted convoys. The regards the Houthis and the closing of the Bab el-Mandeb. While the Houthis have moved into a more advantageous position to interdict the Strait, they have not so, except for Saudi ships. Maersk and Hapag are continuing with their return to the Red Sea. I am guilty as others in making mistakes, but I am not sure why these comments are being made when the evidence is out there.
A U.S.-contracted vessel was hit during an Iranian attack earlier this week, two sources told Fox News. The incident occurred "around the Strait of Hormuz," and involved four Iranian drones, and at least one missile. One of the projectiles struck the vessel and caused minor injuries, including smoke inhalation. The injured are being treated in a Gulf country. Some "U.S. personnel" were onboard. Take with a grain of salt.
Reuters reports that U.S. officials held a previously undisclosed meeting with senior Houthi representatives in Oman over the weekend, just days after the Houthis seized effective control of Yemen’s Red Sea coastline and Perim Island in the Bab al-Mandeb. The meeting took place at the U.S. Embassy in Muscat and was facilitated by Oman, according to five sources. The Houthi delegation reportedly included senior officials Mohammed Abdulsalam and Abdelmalik al-Ajri. According to two sources, the Houthis told U.S. officials they do not intend to attack American vessels and remain committed to the 2025 U.S.-Houthi ceasefire. One source said the Houthis also said they would not target Israeli ships or commercial vessels, with the exception of Saudi vessels. The meeting comes as Saudi Arabia seeks greater U.S. involvement against the Houthis. Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman reportedly asked President Trump last week for U.S. military support as Houthi forces advanced along the Red Sea coast. Washington has so far declined to directly enter the fighting. Reuters says the State Department did not confirm the meeting, but reiterated that protecting freedom of navigation in the Red Sea and preventing terrorism from spreading remain U.S. interests. Full Reuters article U.S. officials met representatives of Yemen's Houthis in Oman over the weekend, five sources familiar with the matter said, days after the Iran-backed militia seized a strategic stretch of the Red Sea coast in a sweeping offensive that routed Saudi-backed forces. The meeting, which has not been made public, was held at the U.S. Embassy in Muscat, three of the sources said on the condition of anonymity. Two sources said that Oman's government, a longtime regional mediator, helped organise the meeting. The Trump administration designated the Houthis a "foreign terrorist organization" in March 2025, criminalising support for the group. But Washington has negotiated with them since, reaching a ceasefire in May last year after bombing the group for two months to halt a campaign of attacks on Red Sea shipping. President Donald Trump said on Saturday that the Houthis had phoned his administration asking the United States to keep out of the Yemen war. Vice President JD Vance said on Monday the United States was in direct contact with the group, without giving details. In the meeting, which one source said took place on Sunday, the Houthis told U.S. officials that they had no intention of attacking American vessels and that they were committed to the 2025 ceasefire with the U.S., two sources said. One of the sources, a Yemeni, said the militia group also said they would not attack Israeli ships or any commercial vessels, except those belonging to Saudi Arabia. According to two of the sources, the U.S. side was represented by embassy personnel. One of those sources said the Houthi delegation included a senior official based in Muscat who is under U.S. sanctions, Mohammad Abdulsalam. Another source confirmed Abdulsalam's presence along with that of another senior Houthi official, Abdelmalik al-Ajiri. Asked whether the U.S. had met with the Houthis in Oman, a State Department spokesperson did not confirm the meeting, but said safeguarding freedom of navigation in the Red Sea and preventing the export of terrorism from the Middle East were core U.S. interests. Oman's embassy in the U.S. and senior Houthi official Abdulsalam did not respond to a request for comment. The Houthis last week seized effective control of Yemen's entire Red Sea coastline, including the historic port of Mocha, and Perim Island in the Bab el-Mandeb, or "Gate of Tears" strait, at the sea's mouth. The Houthis, who seized Yemen's capital in 2014, have fought against a Saudi-led coalition for more than a decade. The war had quietened under a ceasefire in recent years, but fighting resumed in July when the Houthis declared a blockade on Saudi shipping in the Red Sea in response to a Saudi blockade of Yemeni ports. Saudi Arabia's de facto ruler Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman called Trump last week seeking U.S. military support amid the dramatic Houthi advances. Reuters has reported that Washington told Riyadh it would not get directly involved. Reporting by Timour Azhari in Riyadh, Alexander Cornwell in Tel Aviv and Gram Slattery in Washington; Additional reporting by Simon Lewis in Washington; Writing by Alexander Cornwell; Editing by Andrew Mills and Peter Graff
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday
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Originally Posted By Dominion21: Iran fully intends to use their nuclear weapons offensively as soon as they accomplish building one. Iran, as a nation, has repeatedly demonstrated they are not rational actors, so the traditional rules of diplomacy or even logic, do not apply when dealing with Iran. Iran’s invasion of our embassy (and yes - invasion is the correct word here), in 1979 are all the proof one requires. Note that the same government which carried out that invasion remains in power. And Israel is the least issue of concern here. Like it or not, the world economy turns on energy, and the Gulf is still largely at the epicenter of energy. Iran’s development of nukes threatens not only Israel, but every Arab country in the region (note that Iranians are not Arabs). Any sane person plainly sees why Iran must not be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon. Originally Posted By Dominion21: Originally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By ChicagoFoodie: Originally Posted By garr: When the Death Cult 12ers in Iran were stopped from building a Nuke & destroying any American city. If these lunatics got a nuke & smuggled into any US or any 1st world port, the world would be fucked for a very long time (even though Iran would immediately be turned to ashes). Trump sees this & wants it stopped! We didn’t stop any other country from acquiring a nuke(s) why would stop Iran? Because the people in Iran want a nuke for the purpose of bringing the end of times and their messiah. As I understand it they are the ones who keep saying they need to remove all of the Jews, and that can not be accomplished with conventional weapons. So once they have a nuke they can defeat the enemies and the messiah returns. And of course, if Israel finds out Iran is about to nuke them, they are going to defend themselves first. Or maybe nukes in the air going at each other at the same time. Iran fully intends to use their nuclear weapons offensively as soon as they accomplish building one. Iran, as a nation, has repeatedly demonstrated they are not rational actors, so the traditional rules of diplomacy or even logic, do not apply when dealing with Iran. Iran’s invasion of our embassy (and yes - invasion is the correct word here), in 1979 are all the proof one requires. Note that the same government which carried out that invasion remains in power. And Israel is the least issue of concern here. Like it or not, the world economy turns on energy, and the Gulf is still largely at the epicenter of energy. Iran’s development of nukes threatens not only Israel, but every Arab country in the region (note that Iranians are not Arabs). Any sane person plainly sees why Iran must not be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon. "Send a warning to all ships. If the Great Houses attack, our atomics will obliterate all spice fields." I'm going to keep quoting Dune 2 until the Iranians quote his words to the world. |
Most anything can be fixed with sticks and rocks and string.
Full WSJ article from X post Iran vowed to respond to a U.S. blockade by pushing more trade overland. On the ground, it isn’t going according to plan. Hundreds of Iranian truck drivers are currently stuck at Iran’s border with Pakistan, unable to send their goods into Tehran’s neighbor. They say they are facing worsening bureaucratic hurdles and costs, many caused by their own government. The same thing is happening at Iran’s land borders with Turkey, Turkmenistan and Afghanistan, dealing Tehran a self-inflicted blow and throttling trade through its few remaining economic release valves. Tons of stranded apricots have been spoiled because of the delays. Lucrative cargoes of iron ore, cement and bottled gas are stuck at entry points to the Pakistani and Afghan borders, truckers say. “Neither Iran is taking responsibility for the situation, nor is Pakistan allowing us to unload our cargo,” one driver says in a video posted by the Union of Truckers and Drivers Organizations Across Iran over the weekend. The economic war in the Persian Gulf is dictated as much by how much the countries in the region can move their exports over land rather than through the Strait of Hormuz. Some have found workarounds. Saudi Arabia is moving more of its oil west across the Arabian Peninsula. The U.S. Navy is helping some of the Gulf nations shift their oil through the strait. Iran’s attempts are faltering. The U.S. is isolating its economy with new sanctions and launching strikes on Iranian tankers in reprisal for Tehran’s attacks on its Navy, collapsing seaborne exports. In another setback for Iran’s plans to bypass Hormuz, the country’s Mahan Air, which is sanctioned by the U.S., said Wednesday that it was suspending flights to Oman and Turkey, state-affiliated media in Tehran said. Last week, the U.S. Treasury imposed new sanctions on companies it said were supporting Mahan, which operates cargo and passenger services. The U.S. blockade has also hurt Iran’s imports of basic goods, 70% of which normally go through the blockaded ports. Though humanitarian goods and food are ostensibly exempt, the reality is that shippers are reluctant to service Iran. Videos posted on social media last week show cranes at the Port of Shahid Rajaee, Iran’s largest commercial container port, at a standstill. Thousands of containers are stranded in ports in Pakistan, the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, transportation professionals in Tehran last month told the Mehr News Agency, which is affiliated with Iranian security services. Iran has tried to compensate by pushing more trade through other routes. Transits across the Caspian Sea have grown by 70% in the past five months, according to Iranian officials. Iran imports large quantities of its wheat, corn and cooking oil from Russia, according to commodities data provider Kpler and Iranian trading websites. “We are trying to turn this threat into an opportunity,” Hadi Haghshenas, the governor of the Iranian province of Gilan, on the Caspian Sea, told state news agency IRNA in late August. A freight railroad from Tehran to Xi’an in eastern China has jumped from once-a-week journeys to every three or four days since the blockade started, according to the state-controlled Tehran Times. Iran imports industrial machinery, electronics and automotive spare parts from China. But in a sign of how vulnerable the alternative routes are, Iraq over the weekend temporarily closed cargo terminals at the Iran border after alleging Iran had used its territory to attack Saudi Arabia. On Sunday, trucks carrying Iranian onions bound for Iraq were forced to turn back as a result, according to Tehran’s Central Fruit and Vegetable Market. Iran’s land borders were a mess before these latest closures, though. This summer, for example, the number of trucks going through Pishin, one of the main crossings into Pakistan, increased from about 40 vehicles to as many as 130 vehicles a day, local governor Rahimbakhsh Balidehei told the semiofficial ISNA News Agency. The result is that customs officers across Iran’s land borders are struggling to cope, Ehsan Malekzadeh, chairman of the Iranian International Transport Companies Association, told the Mehr News Agency. Malekzadeh said 3,700 trucks were stranded on the Iranian side of the crossing to Turkey, with delays reaching 20 days. At the main crossing into Pakistan, 700 trucks—mostly carrying bottled gas and cement—are waiting at any time, but only 40 are allowed to cross, according to the Baloch Human Rights Documentation Network, a local civic group. One driver told Iran’s official news agency IRNA he was stuck for days at the Pakistan side of the border with meat destined for Iran, where prices are spiraling higher. At the border with Afghanistan, truckers also complain they have to wait for days before being able to export Iranian iron ore, according to Iran’s Truckers’ Union. Iranian truckers trying to get into Pakistan say they can be stuck for several days without access to water, food or sanitation as temperatures rise to 122 degrees Fahrenheit, according to footage, published by the Truckers’ Union on its social-media account. The union said some bottled-gas tankers are crossing into Pakistan. But the Pakistani authorities asked Iranian drivers for the equivalent of more than $10,000 each to cross, an unprecedented amount, it said. A spokesman for Pakistan’s Foreign Ministry said he wasn’t aware of any new charges or restrictions at Pakistan’s border with Iran. Meanwhile, at the border with Turkmenistan, the gateway to China, transporters complain of constraints tied to a lack of warehouses and of a proper registration process to bring goods by rail to China. One businessman complained it was increasingly difficult to bring in automotive spare parts from the Asian powerhouse. The rising costs are now adding to Iran’s worsening inflation problem. In some cases, the overland bottlenecks and diversions now contribute as much as a third of the price for common goods once they reach Tehran, Mohammad Reza Khodarahm, an import-sector expert, told Iranian economic daily Donya-e-Eqtesad last week. Majidreza Hariri, the president of the Iran-China Chamber of Commerce, earlier predicted that the U.S. naval blockade would cost $18 billion a year in extra outlays. The cost of transporting one container from China to Iran costs $12,000 via land routes compared with $3,000 by sea, he told KhabarOnline, an independent website close to regime moderates. Much of these costs are being passed on to consumers, with unpredictable results for the Iranian leadership. Food inflation rose to 128% in August, according to Iran’s official statistics office.
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Originally Posted By michigan66:
Full WSJ article from X post
Originally Posted By michigan66:
Full WSJ article from X post Iran vowed to respond to a U.S. blockade by pushing more trade overland. On the ground, it isn't going according to plan. Hundreds of Iranian truck drivers are currently stuck at Iran's border with Pakistan, unable to send their goods into Tehran's neighbor. They say they are facing worsening bureaucratic hurdles and costs, many caused by their own government. The same thing is happening at Iran's land borders with Turkey, Turkmenistan and Afghanistan, dealing Tehran a self-inflicted blow and throttling trade through its few remaining economic release valves. Tons of stranded apricots have been spoiled because of the delays. Lucrative cargoes of iron ore, cement and bottled gas are stuck at entry points to the Pakistani and Afghan borders, truckers say. "Neither Iran is taking responsibility for the situation, nor is Pakistan allowing us to unload our cargo," one driver says in a video posted by the Union of Truckers and Drivers Organizations Across Iran over the weekend. The economic war in the Persian Gulf is dictated as much by how much the countries in the region can move their exports over land rather than through the Strait of Hormuz. Some have found workarounds. Saudi Arabia is moving more of its oil west across the Arabian Peninsula. The U.S. Navy is helping some of the Gulf nations shift their oil through the strait. Iran's attempts are faltering. The U.S. is isolating its economy with new sanctions and launching strikes on Iranian tankers in reprisal for Tehran's attacks on its Navy, collapsing seaborne exports. In another setback for Iran's plans to bypass Hormuz, the country's Mahan Air, which is sanctioned by the U.S., said Wednesday that it was suspending flights to Oman and Turkey, state-affiliated media in Tehran said. Last week, the U.S. Treasury imposed new sanctions on companies it said were supporting Mahan, which operates cargo and passenger services. The U.S. blockade has also hurt Iran's imports of basic goods, 70% of which normally go through the blockaded ports. Though humanitarian goods and food are ostensibly exempt, the reality is that shippers are reluctant to service Iran. Videos posted on social media last week show cranes at the Port of Shahid Rajaee, Iran's largest commercial container port, at a standstill. Thousands of containers are stranded in ports in Pakistan, the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, transportation professionals in Tehran last month told the Mehr News Agency, which is affiliated with Iranian security services. Iran has tried to compensate by pushing more trade through other routes. Transits across the Caspian Sea have grown by 70% in the past five months, according to Iranian officials. Iran imports large quantities of its wheat, corn and cooking oil from Russia, according to commodities data provider Kpler and Iranian trading websites. "We are trying to turn this threat into an opportunity," Hadi Haghshenas, the governor of the Iranian province of Gilan, on the Caspian Sea, told state news agency IRNA in late August. A freight railroad from Tehran to Xi'an in eastern China has jumped from once-a-week journeys to every three or four days since the blockade started, according to the state-controlled Tehran Times. Iran imports industrial machinery, electronics and automotive spare parts from China. But in a sign of how vulnerable the alternative routes are, Iraq over the weekend temporarily closed cargo terminals at the Iran border after alleging Iran had used its territory to attack Saudi Arabia. On Sunday, trucks carrying Iranian onions bound for Iraq were forced to turn back as a result, according to Tehran's Central Fruit and Vegetable Market. Iran's land borders were a mess before these latest closures, though. This summer, for example, the number of trucks going through Pishin, one of the main crossings into Pakistan, increased from about 40 vehicles to as many as 130 vehicles a day, local governor Rahimbakhsh Balidehei told the semiofficial ISNA News Agency. The result is that customs officers across Iran's land borders are struggling to cope, Ehsan Malekzadeh, chairman of the Iranian International Transport Companies Association, told the Mehr News Agency. Malekzadeh said 3,700 trucks were stranded on the Iranian side of the crossing to Turkey, with delays reaching 20 days. At the main crossing into Pakistan, 700 trucks mostly carrying bottled gas and cement are waiting at any time, but only 40 are allowed to cross, according to the Baloch Human Rights Documentation Network, a local civic group. One driver told Iran's official news agency IRNA he was stuck for days at the Pakistan side of the border with meat destined for Iran, where prices are spiraling higher. At the border with Afghanistan, truckers also complain they have to wait for days before being able to export Iranian iron ore, according to Iran's Truckers' Union. Iranian truckers trying to get into Pakistan say they can be stuck for several days without access to water, food or sanitation as temperatures rise to 122 degrees Fahrenheit, according to footage, published by the Truckers' Union on its social-media account. The union said some bottled-gas tankers are crossing into Pakistan. But the Pakistani authorities asked Iranian drivers for the equivalent of more than $10,000 each to cross, an unprecedented amount, it said. A spokesman for Pakistan's Foreign Ministry said he wasn't aware of any new charges or restrictions at Pakistan's border with Iran. Meanwhile, at the border with Turkmenistan, the gateway to China, transporters complain of constraints tied to a lack of warehouses and of a proper registration process to bring goods by rail to China. One businessman complained it was increasingly difficult to bring in automotive spare parts from the Asian powerhouse. The rising costs are now adding to Iran's worsening inflation problem. In some cases, the overland bottlenecks and diversions now contribute as much as a third of the price for common goods once they reach Tehran, Mohammad Reza Khodarahm, an import-sector expert, told Iranian economic daily Donya-e-Eqtesad last week. Majidreza Hariri, the president of the Iran-China Chamber of Commerce, earlier predicted that the U.S. naval blockade would cost $18 billion a year in extra outlays. The cost of transporting one container from China to Iran costs $12,000 via land routes compared with $3,000 by sea, he told KhabarOnline, an independent website close to regime moderates. Much of these costs are being passed on to consumers, with unpredictable results for the Iranian leadership. Food inflation rose to 128% in August, according to Iran's official statistics office.
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Originally Posted By brass: Agreed. Iran is closer to North Korea than Venezuela regarding installing a new government. They're the types to follow Kim II and use anti-aircraft cannons to "disperse" anti-government protestors and people who speak against the government. That kind of overkill of the radical islam beheading with dull blade and killing everybody suspected of anything and spying worse than Scientology makes it hard to even talk about arranging a Tea Party, let alone overthrowing the government, especially with China backing them fully. Except they have harshly persecuted the minority populations in Iran - the Sunni muslims, the Kurds, the arabs, azerbajaniis, lurs, Balach, Zoroastrarians, Christians, Baha'i, Jews. 40% of their population has been shat upon for almost 50 years. All it needs is the right spark. |
Why not (\/) (;,,;) (\/) Zoidberg?
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Originally Posted By Chaingun: All the ME oil producing countries need more interceptor missiles or interceptor options Originally Posted By Chaingun: Originally Posted By michigan66:
Full WSJ article from X post Iran vowed to respond to a U.S. blockade by pushing more trade overland. On the ground, it isn't going according to plan. Hundreds of Iranian truck drivers are currently stuck at Iran's border with Pakistan, unable to send their goods into Tehran's neighbor. They say they are facing worsening bureaucratic hurdles and costs, many caused by their own government. The same thing is happening at Iran's land borders with Turkey, Turkmenistan and Afghanistan, dealing Tehran a self-inflicted blow and throttling trade through its few remaining economic release valves. Tons of stranded apricots have been spoiled because of the delays. Lucrative cargoes of iron ore, cement and bottled gas are stuck at entry points to the Pakistani and Afghan borders, truckers say. "Neither Iran is taking responsibility for the situation, nor is Pakistan allowing us to unload our cargo," one driver says in a video posted by the Union of Truckers and Drivers Organizations Across Iran over the weekend. The economic war in the Persian Gulf is dictated as much by how much the countries in the region can move their exports over land rather than through the Strait of Hormuz. Some have found workarounds. Saudi Arabia is moving more of its oil west across the Arabian Peninsula. The U.S. Navy is helping some of the Gulf nations shift their oil through the strait. Iran's attempts are faltering. The U.S. is isolating its economy with new sanctions and launching strikes on Iranian tankers in reprisal for Tehran's attacks on its Navy, collapsing seaborne exports. In another setback for Iran's plans to bypass Hormuz, the country's Mahan Air, which is sanctioned by the U.S., said Wednesday that it was suspending flights to Oman and Turkey, state-affiliated media in Tehran said. Last week, the U.S. Treasury imposed new sanctions on companies it said were supporting Mahan, which operates cargo and passenger services. The U.S. blockade has also hurt Iran's imports of basic goods, 70% of which normally go through the blockaded ports. Though humanitarian goods and food are ostensibly exempt, the reality is that shippers are reluctant to service Iran. Videos posted on social media last week show cranes at the Port of Shahid Rajaee, Iran's largest commercial container port, at a standstill. Thousands of containers are stranded in ports in Pakistan, the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, transportation professionals in Tehran last month told the Mehr News Agency, which is affiliated with Iranian security services. Iran has tried to compensate by pushing more trade through other routes. Transits across the Caspian Sea have grown by 70% in the past five months, according to Iranian officials. Iran imports large quantities of its wheat, corn and cooking oil from Russia, according to commodities data provider Kpler and Iranian trading websites. "We are trying to turn this threat into an opportunity," Hadi Haghshenas, the governor of the Iranian province of Gilan, on the Caspian Sea, told state news agency IRNA in late August. A freight railroad from Tehran to Xi'an in eastern China has jumped from once-a-week journeys to every three or four days since the blockade started, according to the state-controlled Tehran Times. Iran imports industrial machinery, electronics and automotive spare parts from China. But in a sign of how vulnerable the alternative routes are, Iraq over the weekend temporarily closed cargo terminals at the Iran border after alleging Iran had used its territory to attack Saudi Arabia. On Sunday, trucks carrying Iranian onions bound for Iraq were forced to turn back as a result, according to Tehran's Central Fruit and Vegetable Market. Iran's land borders were a mess before these latest closures, though. This summer, for example, the number of trucks going through Pishin, one of the main crossings into Pakistan, increased from about 40 vehicles to as many as 130 vehicles a day, local governor Rahimbakhsh Balidehei told the semiofficial ISNA News Agency. The result is that customs officers across Iran's land borders are struggling to cope, Ehsan Malekzadeh, chairman of the Iranian International Transport Companies Association, told the Mehr News Agency. Malekzadeh said 3,700 trucks were stranded on the Iranian side of the crossing to Turkey, with delays reaching 20 days. At the main crossing into Pakistan, 700 trucks mostly carrying bottled gas and cement are waiting at any time, but only 40 are allowed to cross, according to the Baloch Human Rights Documentation Network, a local civic group. One driver told Iran's official news agency IRNA he was stuck for days at the Pakistan side of the border with meat destined for Iran, where prices are spiraling higher. At the border with Afghanistan, truckers also complain they have to wait for days before being able to export Iranian iron ore, according to Iran's Truckers' Union. Iranian truckers trying to get into Pakistan say they can be stuck for several days without access to water, food or sanitation as temperatures rise to 122 degrees Fahrenheit, according to footage, published by the Truckers' Union on its social-media account. The union said some bottled-gas tankers are crossing into Pakistan. But the Pakistani authorities asked Iranian drivers for the equivalent of more than $10,000 each to cross, an unprecedented amount, it said. A spokesman for Pakistan's Foreign Ministry said he wasn't aware of any new charges or restrictions at Pakistan's border with Iran. Meanwhile, at the border with Turkmenistan, the gateway to China, transporters complain of constraints tied to a lack of warehouses and of a proper registration process to bring goods by rail to China. One businessman complained it was increasingly difficult to bring in automotive spare parts from the Asian powerhouse. The rising costs are now adding to Iran's worsening inflation problem. In some cases, the overland bottlenecks and diversions now contribute as much as a third of the price for common goods once they reach Tehran, Mohammad Reza Khodarahm, an import-sector expert, told Iranian economic daily Donya-e-Eqtesad last week. Majidreza Hariri, the president of the Iran-China Chamber of Commerce, earlier predicted that the U.S. naval blockade would cost $18 billion a year in extra outlays. The cost of transporting one container from China to Iran costs $12,000 via land routes compared with $3,000 by sea, he told KhabarOnline, an independent website close to regime moderates. Much of these costs are being passed on to consumers, with unpredictable results for the Iranian leadership. Food inflation rose to 128% in August, according to Iran's official statistics office.
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China delenda est
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
What could possibly go wrong? These are different Saudi's than involved in 9/11, right? |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By Rick-OShay: Except they have harshly persecuted the minority populations in Iran - the Sunni muslims, the Kurds, the arabs, azerbajaniis, lurs, Balach, Zoroastrarians, Christians, Baha'i, Jews. 40% of their population has been shat upon for almost 50 years. All it needs is the right spark. Bit of an exaggeration while there are language and cultural restrictions Azeris and Lurs in particular are heavily integrated into Iranian society. Khamenei was Azeri. Ghalibaf is a Kurd (or half at least). One of the top generals Israel whacked was an Arab. Just something to consider, I understand the theme of your post. |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday