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9/5/2026 3:20:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sub_Arctic_Son:


Or...

Maybe CENTCOM knows exactly what they're doing and we don't have the full picture or enough information to know exactly what's going on behind the scenes.

Maybe.
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Nah.  Our feelings and the conservative hating press provide all the info we need to know so we can arm chair criticize.
"Have a smile for breakfast, you'll be shitting joy by lunch.” - Joe Abercrombie
9/5/2026 3:25:35 PM EDT
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Nah.  Our feelings and the conservative hating press provide all the info we need to know so we can arm chair criticize.
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Originally Posted By Sub_Arctic_Son:


Or...

Maybe CENTCOM knows exactly what they're doing and we don't have the full picture or enough information to know exactly what's going on behind the scenes.

Maybe.


Nah.  Our feelings and the conservative hating press provide all the info we need to know so we can arm chair criticize.
Those weren't harpoons.  They are poorly maintained, shadow fleet, sanctioned oil tankers....oil being useful because it easily combusts.....they didn't need to be harpoons.  A quarter stick in the right place would probably do the job.

The stern shots weren't poons....the broadside hit might have been, that had a nice pop to it.
9/5/2026 3:30:05 PM EDT
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Video shows @CENTCOM strikes against three tankers

1️⃣22 year old, 296,977 ton, Iran-flagged VLCC Downy (IMO 9218480) was struck in the stern with the intent of diabling its steering.

2️⃣26 year old, 159,681 ton, Iran-flagged Suezmax tanker Stark I (IMO 9171450) suffered a similar hit.

* It appears that bith Downy and Stark I were loaded based on their draft, hence the disabling hits.

3️⃣MT Kylo (IMO 9189146) is a Comoros-flagged, 25 year old, 160,573 ton Suezmax tanker.

The tanker was anchored to the east of the Strait of Hormuz admid other ships waiting to load. She was stuck by multiple pieces of ordance.

This attack was different in that:

▶️Comoros vice Iran flagged

▶️The ship was abandoned, giving the indication that a warning had been sent to the crew - lifeboat was missing and lines down off the stern.

▶️The ship was in ballast and many of the explosions on deck are due to the manhole covers lifting off the main deck due to the overpressurization of the cargo hold and the igniting of the vapors with the failure of the inert gas system (if it was even operating).

The ships hull was targeted, in particular the engine room and cargo tanks.

These attacks, particulalry the one against KYLO demonstrate the U.S. responding to strikes against tankers in the Strait of Hormuz.

The Iranians have to be concerned about their other tankers along their coast, along with 20 anchored near Sri Lanka.
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."

Robert A. Heinlein, Friday
9/5/2026 3:58:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sub_Arctic_Son:


Or...

Maybe CENTCOM knows exactly what they're doing and we don't have the full picture or enough information to know exactly what's going on behind the scenes.

Maybe.
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Appears we're using missles to hit the Iranian oil tankers which are large slow moving targets.  Seems excessively costly.  Why not laser guided bombs?  Or even dumb bombs?


Or...

Maybe CENTCOM knows exactly what they're doing and we don't have the full picture or enough information to know exactly what's going on behind the scenes.

Maybe.


Of course.  I never doubt the military's ability to make economically sound decisions.
9/5/2026 4:19:40 PM EDT
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Are they just that stupid? Randomly firing at US ships and now they lose 3 tankers. I mean I get they aren’t rational people, but damn, you have stupid and then you have this.
9/5/2026 4:40:09 PM EDT
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Are they just that stupid? Randomly firing at US ships and now they lose 3 tankers. I mean I get they aren't rational people, but damn, you have stupid and then you have this.
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This is a boxing match between a midget and guy with 4 foot long arms.   They can't reach us real well, and we're ahead on the scorecard.   Time is not on their side, they gotta shoot their shots and hope they get lucky while we can pick our spots, all while the clock is ticking.
9/5/2026 6:14:34 PM EDT
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."

Robert A. Heinlein, Friday
9/5/2026 10:16:30 PM EDT
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9/5/2026 11:06:09 PM EDT
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9/5/2026 11:20:42 PM EDT
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What percentage of Chinas oil comes (came) from Iran..?
9/6/2026 12:01:02 AM EDT
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well I'll be dipped in shit, it's almost like there is a larger strategy here....
9/6/2026 12:02:41 AM EDT
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What percentage of Chinas oil comes (came) from Iran..?
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Iran was Chinas Canada.

It wasn't the majority but it was cheap because it was sanctioned and grey market, Iran didn't have many customers for it.
9/6/2026 12:18:17 AM EDT
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Iran was Chinas Canada.

It wasn't the majority but it was cheap because it was sanctioned and grey market, Iran didn't have many customers for it.
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Originally Posted By bondservant2:


What percentage of Chinas oil comes (came) from Iran..?
Iran was Chinas Canada.

It wasn't the majority but it was cheap because it was sanctioned and grey market, Iran didn't have many customers for it.


What I just read after a search, is that the amount of oil that china purchases from Iran is a small amount compared to the amount that China burns every year.
But of the amount of oil that Iran sells every year, 80% to 90% of that goes to Iran.
Most anything can be fixed with sticks and rocks and string.
9/6/2026 9:05:19 AM EDT
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Iranian Parliament Speaker Mohammad-Bagher Ghalibaf said the era of “proportionate responses” was over and warned that any attack on Iran’s interests or security would receive a “faster, heavier and more painful” response.

He described what Iran says were recent strikes on US bases as “only the beginning.”
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To fully understand the extent to which the U.S. military now controls the airspace over southern Iran, you need to watch this footage recorded on Kish Island in the Persian Gulf.

A U.S. Air Force KC-135R Stratotanker can be seen conducting aerial refueling of two American fighter jets at medium altitude directly over the island.

The sight of a large USAF aerial-refueling tanker operating with fighter aircraft over Iranian territory illustrates the extraordinary degree of freedom of operation currently enjoyed by U.S. military aviation over southern Iran.
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Two luxury London penthouses linked to Iran’s Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei, bought for a combined £36 million, have been put up for sale, The Sunday Times reported.

The apartments are at 3a Palace Green, an exclusive development overlooking Kensington Palace and close to the official London residence of the Prince and Princess of Wales. Both properties include staff accommodation and private roof terraces, according to the report.

One is a five-bedroom duplex covering 3,944 square feet across the sixth and seventh floors. It was purchased for £19 million in 2016 but is now being offered for just under £12 million.

The second penthouse occupies the seventh and eighth floors of the same building. It was bought for £16.75 million in 2014 and has also entered receivership.
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The IDF says its airstrikes in southern Lebanon this morning, in response to a Hezbollah drone attack, targeted members of the terror group and its infrastructure.

Among the targets were weapon depots and other buildings used by Hezbollah to advance attacks, as well as a command center based out of a former hospital, the military says. Lebanese media reported earlier that the disused Ghandour Hospital in Nabatieh al-Fawqa was demolished in a strike.

The IDF says that recently, Hezbollah operatives involved in "artillery and surveillance" had been operating from the command center at the hospital compound.

All of the strikes were carried out to "remove threats," the military says, and came in response to this morning's drone attack on troops operating in the Ali Taher Ridge area.
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."

Robert A. Heinlein, Friday
9/6/2026 12:48:23 PM EDT
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The Economist: Iran’s proxies are going their own way.  After three years of war, the axis of resistance is no longer an axis

For years Iranian officials spoke of an “axis of resistance”, allies from Beirut to Sana’a who would stand together against common foes

Yet when Iran was attacked twice in the past 15 months, each made a different decision about whether to join the fray.

The axis may not be dead—but the brand has outlived the business.

The strategy of backing Arab militias dates to the 1980s, when Iran sent its Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) to train Hizbullah fighters in Lebanon.

It saw such groups as a substitute for its weak conventional army: they would serve as forward defence, projecting power while keeping conflict away from Iran.

The defence clearly failed. The Hamas-led massacre on October 7th 2023 started a cascade of wars that ended with Iran itself being attacked. Hizbullah and Hamas are badly weakened. Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria has gone.

The Iraqi government has ordered militias to disarm by October.

Some regime foes hope that Iran will have to curtail its support, perhaps to facilitate a deal with America, and trigger the collapse of the axis.

That is unlikely. The militias are wounded but alive, and the strategic rationale for supporting them is stronger than ever.

Yet the axis may also struggle to rebuild itself as a consortium: the parent company in Tehran is bankrupt, and many of its subsidiaries are poorly run.

A likelier outcome is that its constituent parts survive but diverge. Some will become Iranian wards, held tightly but used sparingly.

A few will graduate from the axis. Others will emerge as strays: clients that might have somewhere else to go.

Counter-intuitively, Iran will exercise the tightest control over groups that have suffered the greatest blows to their capabilities.

Take Hizbullah, once Iran’s most feared proxy. Until 2023 it had an arsenal of more than 100,000 rockets and missiles aimed at Israel and a well-trained commando force that had honed its skills fighting to save Mr Assad’s regime.

Hassan Nasrallah, its charismatic leader assassinated by Israel in 2024, saw himself as a peer rather than a proxy.

He was a true believer steeped in Iran’s revolutionary ideology, but tried to preserve some autonomy.

No longer. Naim Qassem, Nasrallah’s successor, is an unloved middle-manager. Israeli strikes have killed many of the group’s experienced commanders.

The Lebanese government insists that Hizbullah must hand over its diminished arsenal.

With so many commanders dead, the IRGC sent its own men to Lebanon to exercise direct control over the group, leaving it little choice but to start another war with Israel in March.

At the same time, its domestic popularity has collapsed. Iran will preserve Hizbullah less for what it can do than for what its loss would signal.

At the other extreme are the Houthis, the most independent-minded of Iran’s allies.

They started as a local insurgency in northern Yemen in the 1990s.

It would be decades before Iran offered significant financial and military aid. When it came, it vastly improved their capabilities.

Once derided as barefoot gunmen, Houthi fighters now wield anti-ship missiles to harass vessels in the Red Sea and air defences to shoot down American Reaper drones.

Yet the Houthis continue to guard their autonomy. Their involvement in the post-October 7th wars has waxed and waned, based more on their own interests than Tehran’s.

They are increasingly able to produce their own weapons and are forging their own alliances, for example with al-Shabab, the al-Qaeda affiliate that controls much of Somalia.

Houthi delegations have visited Russia and held talks with China.

Iran and the Houthis will continue to find common interest: both loathe America, Israel and Saudi Arabia.

But that is not the same as taking orders.

In between are the strays. Many Shia militias in Iraq are a by-product of the American-led invasion in 2003, after which Iran poured weapons and money into the country to bleed its American foes.

Two decades later their priorities have changed. Iran remains an ally, but their main patron is the Iraqi state, which has more than 200,000 militiamen on its payroll.

Some militias did launch attacks on American bases earlier this year, but they worry that open conflict with the Iraqi government or its allies would jeopardise their position.

The IRGC is said to have sent advisers to Iraq to establish small cells tasked with attacking Gulf states, a sign that the bigger militias were reluctant to do so.

Hamas was always an awkward fit in the axis, a Sunni group in a largely Shia bloc.

It fell out with Iran over the latter’s support for the Assad regime in Syria. Khalil al-Hayya, its newly appointed leader, is considered a loyal Iranian ally, but other officials would prefer a pivot towards Sunni powers, namely Turkey and the Gulf.

In March Hamas urged Iran to halt its attacks on Gulf states. Iran will not abandon it—support for the Palestinians is central to the regime’s identity—but its support may be more rhetorical than material.

Even if Iran wanted to rebuild all its allies, its resources are limited. The war has caused hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of damage.

America is blockading its ports and tightening sanctions on its economy. The fall of Mr Assad’s regime also severed the land route to Lebanon. Iran will need to prioritise.

In some ways, the fate of the axis may mirror that of Soviet client states in the 1980s, when Moscow could no longer afford to offer them generous support.

This is an imperfect analogy, of course. Moscow’s allies had a rival superpower to turn to, while Tehran’s face a messier board: some have a range of possible partners; others, none at all.

Still, the Middle East’s most ambitious conglomerate may be heading for a restructuring.
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."

Robert A. Heinlein, Friday
9/6/2026 1:01:26 PM EDT
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The only reasonable response to unprovoked violence is overwhelming violence. Proportional response is going to be the downfall of the Western World.
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this is correct!
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9/6/2026 1:30:00 PM EDT
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The Financial Times reports that US divers, robotic boats, and underwater craft spent four months covertly clearing mines from the Strait of Hormuz.

- Divers operated from inflatable-hulled boats, supported by robotic surface craft and submersibles. Towed sonar arrays produced high-resolution images of seabed objects to help locate suspected mines.

- After detection, a diver would typically approach the mine, attach an explosive charge and destroy it. Experts said remotely operated underwater vehicles could also place or deliver explosives.

- FT identifies the Common Uncrewed Surface Vessel as an example of the detection platforms. Experts suggested SeaFox or Archerfish systems could have been used for neutralization, and that the USS Miguel Keith, an expeditionary mobile base, may have supported operations.
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As the US exchanged tit-for-tat strikes with Iran in the Strait of Hormuz in recent months, it was also engaged in a much more covert operation within the waters of the narrow, strategically crucial channel.

Mostly at night, it sent Navy Seal divers, robot boats and specialised underwater craft into the perilous strait for a four-month mine-clearance mission, said people familiar with the operation.

The fraught process of explosive device disposal was carried out underwater and in darkness in an attempt to eliminate a crucial factor deterring ships from carrying vital cargoes through the strait since the US and Israel attacked Iran in February.

Since the war began, Tehran has claimed it has laid mines in international and Omani waters in the strait.

The International Maritime Organization in June said about 80 had been placed in vital shipping lanes.

US President Donald Trump’s claim last week that “all mines” in the strait’s international waters had been removed or detonated — confirmed by the US military — surprised many onlookers.

Trackers had reported that three Gulf-based US ships normally tasked with mine countermeasures had been outside the region, in the Indian and Pacific Oceans, since at least early June.

Minesweeping an area of sea even in peacetime is a painstaking process that can take months.

Specialised vessels must snake up and down the waterway, cutting mines from their moorings and shooting them when they start to float.

But in this case, US Navy divers worked in small teams using inflatable-hulled craft.

They located Iranian mines with the help of robot boats and submersibles — such as the US Navy’s Common Uncrewed Surface Vessel — operating towed sonar arrays.

These devices, containing high-resolution, side-looking sonar sensors, can see objects such as mines on the ocean bottom at startlingly high resolution.

That enables them to sweep large areas with minimal risk to crews.

But that process is often followed by the riskiest element of the mission.

“That is usually followed up by a navy diver who’s got to get in the water and approach the mine, and then put a charge on it and destroy it,” said Bill Hamblet, a retired US Navy captain who often operated in the Gulf.

He said it was a “very small, lightweight kind of force”. The US may have staged some operations from the USS Miguel Keith, a floating “expeditionary mobile base” attached to the Gulf naval forces, Hamblet added.

Robot submersibles can also be used to destroy mines with explosives, he said.

These could include the UK’s SeaFox, or the newer US AN/ASQ-235 Archerfish, said Bryan Clark, a demining expert at the Hudson Institute.

“It is an extremely time-consuming process,” said Nitya Labh, associate fellow at Chatham House. “They are doing, essentially, active bomb detonation underwater.”

No US casualties have been reported specifically linked to the demining operation, which was inherently dangerous, according to experts:

“Mine-clearing forces are vulnerable because the operation is slow and their boats or helicopters lack defences,” said Clark.

Shipowners and security advisers said they were optimistic that the southern half of the strait, close to Oman’s coast — through which the US has been guiding ships — had genuinely been cleared, while doubting that the entire strait was mine-free.

Only a trickle of commercial ships have been travelling through the strait since the war started.

One risk is missile and drone attacks by Iran. But the threat of mines, even if they are not actually present, is in itself enough to scare off shipowners and force insurers to quote eye-wateringly expensive cover, up to 10 times the prewar cost.

For a typical supertanker that could mean insurance costs of about $10mn.

The power of that threat has led to an information war. Tehran has dismissed the US mine clearance claims, with deputy foreign minister Kazem Gharibabadi saying in late August that “no one except Iran knows the location of these mines”.

On the same day that Trump declared the strait mine-free, the US Navy-directed Joint Maritime Information Center said there was a “continued risk of drifting or uncharted mines”.

Oil prices fell about 5 per cent in the week following Trump’s announcement but have since more than recouped their losses as strikes resumed.

The question is whether shipowners will feel ready to send vessels through.

That would require confidence that they can keep their ships safe from missiles and drones as well as mines.

The US said it would seek to prevent fresh mines from being laid.

“Iran has been notified that any ship or boat placing new mines will be immediately and systematically destroyed,” Trump posted on social media last week.

Military analysts say the regime has thousands of Maham mines, akin to those used in the second world war.

Some sit just below the surface and detonate when a ship hits lead horns on the mine itself, while others operate by detecting changes in electromagnetic fields as vessels pass overhead.

Iranian media has claimed that at least two tankers struck mines in the past week.

An Iranian military spokesperson on Thursday claimed Tehran had laid more mines close to Oman.

“It’s hard to know what to believe,” said Ethan Connell, assistant director of Taiwan Security Monitor and an expert on mines. “Iran is certainly trying to re-mine.

“It’s always possible the [US] navy missed some. But the bigger and more pertinent issue, certainly the most annoying and expensive one, is the threat of re-mining.”

On August 30, the US military struck Iranian rocket launchers preparing to fire sea mines into the strait.

Hamblet — the former US Navy captain, who is now editor-in-chief of the US Naval Institute’s journal Proceedings — said rocket-fired mines would be very small, weighing perhaps 50kg.

That compares with the 500kg or 1,000kg mines deployed by ships and boats and would be unlikely to be effective in deep water.

Despite the Iranian reports, no mine attacks have been reported or confirmed by maritime authorities during the conflict.

Satellite imagery has not shown clear evidence to substantiate Iran’s claims, said analysts.

The only confirmed mine sighting in the strait was by a Pakistani hydrographer in May.

By contrast, in the Black Sea — which has been heavily mined by Russia and Ukraine — there have been several instances of ships being hit and mines washing up on shore, said Martin Kelly, head of advisory at the consultancy EOS Risk.

At the same time, said a tanker industry executive, “it doesn’t take much to put a mine back in because there is a lot of small-boat traffic going across Hormuz every night”.

The uncertainty is Iran’s trump card. By claiming that mines remain, it has managed to exert control.

Ships have been forced either to comply with Tehran’s recently established Persian Gulf Strait Authority and request permission to pass through the waterway — angering the US and potentially contravening US sanctions — or to risk taking the route that hugs the Omani coast, which the US has said is mine-free.

Hamblet said: “The Iranians have realised that their strongest card is the perception that they control the Strait of Hormuz. If they can convince the world that they can threaten the strait, that’s their strongest source of strategic leverage.”

Conversely, the US does not necessarily have to prove every mine has been removed; it simply needs to establish sufficient confidence that shipping can resume.

That will be a challenge when about one in 30 ships are being attacked by missile and drone strikes at present, according to maritime security advisers.

Hamblet said: “The bigger game is on the information side. That may be as important, if not more important, than what’s actually happening in the water or on the bottom of the strait.”
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."

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9/6/2026 4:57:45 PM EDT
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Iran's Security Council Secretary Rezaei:

The Americans are trying to smuggle 5 to 6 vessels, spending a lot of money, but these ships are usually targeted.

We have not yet decided to sink them, because they are carrying petroleum products.

If they were to pollute the entire Strait of Hormuz and the Persian Gulf, it would create a problem for us as well.

However, none of them pass through safely; eventually, they suffer some damage.
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The Middle East oil landscape is undergoing a seismic shift. Crude oil exporting nations are establishing alternative routes to reduce the number of barrels sent through the SoH. Iraq is trucking more than 100 Kbpd to Syria to reach the Med Sea. The UAE is expected to double its pipeline capacity to the GoO sometime next year. Saudi Arabia already sends most of its crude oil exports via the Red Sea. Other countries are also exploring and developing alternative options.
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."

Robert A. Heinlein, Friday
9/6/2026 9:19:31 PM EDT
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Iran… “We would stop the US backed ships but we are concerned about the environment!”



Tell me again how they control the SoH.

The duty of a patriot is to protect his nation from its government.

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"
9/7/2026 3:34:17 AM EDT
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HOW IS THE U.S. SMUGGLING SHIPS THROUGH THE STRAITS OF HORMUZ?
9/7/2026 7:48:23 AM EDT
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The Financial Times is reporting that Saudi Aramco’s Jizan refinery has been attacked for the second time in just over a month.

The extent of the damage is still being assessed, and there are currently no reports of casualties.

The attack comes amid a significant escalation between Saudi Arabia and the Iran-backed Houthis since July.

Saudi airstrikes on Houthi positions and the Houthis’ subsequent attacks on Saudi territory have increasingly focused on energy infrastructure and maritime traffic.

The Houthis declared a blockade of Saudi linked shipping in the Red Sea in July and have claimed attacks against Saudi oil tankers, military targets and energy facilities.

On August 9, the group claimed an attack on the Jizan refinery, where a fire was reported and later extinguished.

The escalation has also spread into Yemen, with Saudi backed forces and the Houthis engaged in increasingly heavy fighting along the western coast.

Recent clashes have raised concerns that the fragile 2022 ceasefire could be collapsing altogether.

A second apparent strike on Jizan would mark another step in the widening Houthi-Saudi confrontation, particularly as the group continues to target Saudi energy infrastructure and shipping.
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For the third time in a week, Hezbollah launched two explosive drones at Israeli troops operating in the Ali Taher Ridge area of southern Lebanon overnight, the military says, prompting strikes on the terror group in response.

The IDF says that no injuries and were caused in the drone attack.

In response, Hezbollah infrastructure sites in several areas of southern Lebanon, including a weapons depot, were targeted in airstrikes, the military says.

Additionally, the army says it struck several Hezbollah operatives who were identified moving weaponry in the town of Kfar Remen.

Lebanese media reported earlier that 11 people, including two children, were killed in strikes in Kfar Remen.

The military says it is looking into the reports that civilians were harmed in the strikes.

Additionally, in response to a separate Hezbollah drone attack on Sunday, the military says it struck and killed several members of the terror group in Nabatieh.
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Lebanese media reports 11 dead and five wounded in Israeli airstrikes overnight in the southern Lebanon town of Kfar Reman.

According to the National News Agency, a strike carried out by Israeli fighter jets on a residential building in the town after midnight killed nine people, including two children, and wounded five others.

A separate drone strike on a car in Kfar Reman killed two paramedics of the Hezbollah-allied Amal movement's Risala Scouts, according to NNA.

NNA adds that other Israeli strikes overnight hit Nabatieh and the nearby town of Arab Salim. A strike also destroyed a building in Deir al-Zahrani, after the IDF issued an evacuation warning for it.

There is no immediate comment from the IDF on the strikes.
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."

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9/7/2026 11:54:47 AM EDT
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Iran's Security Council Secretary Rezaei:

The Americans are trying to smuggle 5 to 6 vessels, spending a lot of money, but these ships are usually targeted.

We have not yet decided to sink them, because they are carrying petroleum products.

If they were to pollute the entire Strait of Hormuz and the Persian Gulf, it would create a problem for us as well.

However, none of them pass through safely; eventually, they suffer some damage.







The Middle East oil landscape is undergoing a seismic shift. Crude oil exporting nations are establishing alternative routes to reduce the number of barrels sent through the SoH. Iraq is trucking more than 100 Kbpd to Syria to reach the Med Sea. The UAE is expected to double its pipeline capacity to the GoO sometime next year. Saudi Arabia already sends most of its crude oil exports via the Red Sea. Other countries are also exploring and developing alternative options.


Didn't we post a similar cartoon a little while back that showed what we are going to do to Kharg island?
So do it.
Most anything can be fixed with sticks and rocks and string.
9/7/2026 1:47:03 PM EDT
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The Financial Times is reporting that Saudi Aramco’s Jizan refinery has been attacked for the second time in just over a month.

The extent of the damage is still being assessed, and there are currently no reports of casualties.

The attack comes amid a significant escalation between Saudi Arabia and the Iran-backed Houthis since July.

Saudi airstrikes on Houthi positions and the Houthis’ subsequent attacks on Saudi territory have increasingly focused on energy infrastructure and maritime traffic.

The Houthis declared a blockade of Saudi linked shipping in the Red Sea in July and have claimed attacks against Saudi oil tankers, military targets and energy facilities.

On August 9, the group claimed an attack on the Jizan refinery, where a fire was reported and later extinguished.

The escalation has also spread into Yemen, with Saudi backed forces and the Houthis engaged in increasingly heavy fighting along the western coast.

Recent clashes have raised concerns that the fragile 2022 ceasefire could be collapsing altogether.

A second apparent strike on Jizan would mark another step in the widening Houthi-Saudi confrontation, particularly as the group continues to target Saudi energy infrastructure and shipping.


For the third time in a week, Hezbollah launched two explosive drones at Israeli troops operating in the Ali Taher Ridge area of southern Lebanon overnight, the military says, prompting strikes on the terror group in response.

The IDF says that no injuries and were caused in the drone attack.

In response, Hezbollah infrastructure sites in several areas of southern Lebanon, including a weapons depot, were targeted in airstrikes, the military says.

Additionally, the army says it struck several Hezbollah operatives who were identified moving weaponry in the town of Kfar Remen.

Lebanese media reported earlier that 11 people, including two children, were killed in strikes in Kfar Remen.

The military says it is looking into the reports that civilians were harmed in the strikes.

Additionally, in response to a separate Hezbollah drone attack on Sunday, the military says it struck and killed several members of the terror group in Nabatieh.


Lebanese media reports 11 dead and five wounded in Israeli airstrikes overnight in the southern Lebanon town of Kfar Reman.

According to the National News Agency, a strike carried out by Israeli fighter jets on a residential building in the town after midnight killed nine people, including two children, and wounded five others.

A separate drone strike on a car in Kfar Reman killed two paramedics of the Hezbollah-allied Amal movement's Risala Scouts, according to NNA.

NNA adds that other Israeli strikes overnight hit Nabatieh and the nearby town of Arab Salim. A strike also destroyed a building in Deir al-Zahrani, after the IDF issued an evacuation warning for it.

There is no immediate comment from the IDF on the strikes.

Iran today is akin to Hagar from the Old Testament they should'a sat still and been happy with the way things were. All puffed up, all demanding tribute for transit through the Strait of Hormuz; they should have just stayed seated and let the money roll in for their oil. But no, they wanted to rule the region....look what it's gotten them. They spent billions attempting to get a bomb; look what it's gotten them. Stupid. They sent terrorists out to do their bidding, moronic. They've declared themselves at war with the US for damn near 50 years. Finally, we have a POTUS that took the threat seriously. Yeah, they should'a just let transit through the strait and let their money roll in.
Liberty is meaningless where the right to utter one's thoughts and opinions has ceased to exist. That, of all rights, is the dread of tyrants. It is the right which they first of all strike down. They know its power. F. Douglass
9/7/2026 2:16:38 PM EDT
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Not so much Hagar, but her boy, Ishmael.
9/7/2026 3:08:01 PM EDT
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Two IDF soldiers were lightly wounded in a clash with a Hezbollah operative near Beaufort Castle in southern Lebanon earlier today, the military announces.

Troops of the Golani Brigade's  Reconnaissance Unit were carrying out scans in the Beaufort area when a Hezbollah gunman hiding inside a building opened fire on them, according to the army.

Two of the soldiers were lightly hurt and were taken to a hospital for treatment. The IDF says their families were notified.

The soldiers returned fire and carried out artillery shelling toward the building, killing the Hezbollah gunman, according to the military.

The IDF says it struck other Hezbollah sites in southern Lebanon in response to the gunfire, including weapon depots and command centers.
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."

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9/7/2026 8:51:33 PM EDT
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Iran today is akin to Hagar from the Old Testament they should'a sat still and been happy with the way things were. All puffed up, all demanding tribute for transit through the Strait of Hormuz; they should have just stayed seated and let the money roll in for their oil. But no, they wanted to rule the region....look what it's gotten them. They spent billions attempting to get a bomb; look what it's gotten them. Stupid. They sent terrorists out to do their bidding, moronic. They've declared themselves at war with the US for damn near 50 years. Finally, we have a POTUS that took the threat seriously. Yeah, they should'a just let transit through the strait and let their money roll in.
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The Financial Times is reporting that Saudi Aramco’s Jizan refinery has been attacked for the second time in just over a month.

The extent of the damage is still being assessed, and there are currently no reports of casualties.

The attack comes amid a significant escalation between Saudi Arabia and the Iran-backed Houthis since July.

Saudi airstrikes on Houthi positions and the Houthis’ subsequent attacks on Saudi territory have increasingly focused on energy infrastructure and maritime traffic.

The Houthis declared a blockade of Saudi linked shipping in the Red Sea in July and have claimed attacks against Saudi oil tankers, military targets and energy facilities.

On August 9, the group claimed an attack on the Jizan refinery, where a fire was reported and later extinguished.

The escalation has also spread into Yemen, with Saudi backed forces and the Houthis engaged in increasingly heavy fighting along the western coast.

Recent clashes have raised concerns that the fragile 2022 ceasefire could be collapsing altogether.

A second apparent strike on Jizan would mark another step in the widening Houthi-Saudi confrontation, particularly as the group continues to target Saudi energy infrastructure and shipping.


For the third time in a week, Hezbollah launched two explosive drones at Israeli troops operating in the Ali Taher Ridge area of southern Lebanon overnight, the military says, prompting strikes on the terror group in response.

The IDF says that no injuries and were caused in the drone attack.

In response, Hezbollah infrastructure sites in several areas of southern Lebanon, including a weapons depot, were targeted in airstrikes, the military says.

Additionally, the army says it struck several Hezbollah operatives who were identified moving weaponry in the town of Kfar Remen.

Lebanese media reported earlier that 11 people, including two children, were killed in strikes in Kfar Remen.

The military says it is looking into the reports that civilians were harmed in the strikes.

Additionally, in response to a separate Hezbollah drone attack on Sunday, the military says it struck and killed several members of the terror group in Nabatieh.


Lebanese media reports 11 dead and five wounded in Israeli airstrikes overnight in the southern Lebanon town of Kfar Reman.

According to the National News Agency, a strike carried out by Israeli fighter jets on a residential building in the town after midnight killed nine people, including two children, and wounded five others.

A separate drone strike on a car in Kfar Reman killed two paramedics of the Hezbollah-allied Amal movement's Risala Scouts, according to NNA.

NNA adds that other Israeli strikes overnight hit Nabatieh and the nearby town of Arab Salim. A strike also destroyed a building in Deir al-Zahrani, after the IDF issued an evacuation warning for it.

There is no immediate comment from the IDF on the strikes.

Iran today is akin to Hagar from the Old Testament they should'a sat still and been happy with the way things were. All puffed up, all demanding tribute for transit through the Strait of Hormuz; they should have just stayed seated and let the money roll in for their oil. But no, they wanted to rule the region....look what it's gotten them. They spent billions attempting to get a bomb; look what it's gotten them. Stupid. They sent terrorists out to do their bidding, moronic. They've declared themselves at war with the US for damn near 50 years. Finally, we have a POTUS that took the threat seriously. Yeah, they should'a just let transit through the strait and let their money roll in.


Somebody there clearly plans to have enough destructive power to rule the entire region. Missiles, and drones, and nukes. They might be beaten, but the way they keep trolling Donald trump and America it doesn't seem like they feel beaten. They are still working their plan.
Most anything can be fixed with sticks and rocks and string.
9/7/2026 9:26:10 PM EDT
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."

Robert A. Heinlein, Friday
9/7/2026 10:07:29 PM EDT
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Can we please get like buttons @mods? @michigan66 keeps bringing it. Thank you sir
9/7/2026 10:25:41 PM EDT
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+1
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9/8/2026 12:15:30 AM EDT
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Only if we can get a dislike button to go with it.
9/8/2026 7:09:22 AM EDT
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Only if we can get a dislike button to go with it.
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9/8/2026 8:20:44 AM EDT
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Only if we can get a dislike button to go with it.
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Can we please get like buttons @mods? @michigan66 keeps bringing it. Thank you sir

Only if we can get a dislike button to go with it.

Better than a dislike, you can post contradicting news.  I'm not stopping you or anyone else.
"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."

Robert A. Heinlein, Friday
9/8/2026 8:27:01 AM EDT
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Better than a dislike, you can post contradicting news.  I'm not stopping you or anyone else.
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that would require more effort than a button..
9/8/2026 8:40:05 AM EDT
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Better than a dislike, you can post contradicting news.  I'm not stopping you or anyone else.
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I didn't mean to use on you posts. There are a lot of trolls that deserve down votes.
9/8/2026 10:13:46 AM EDT
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Got you, no problem.  

"But now that lifeline is disappearing. Kpler estimates that current deliveries of around a million barrels a day—which mostly go to China—could exhaust the store of Iranian oil on the water by mid-October. Payments for previously delivered cargoes would likely dry up by mid-December."


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DUBAI—Iran’s oil export revenue is drying up as a U.S. naval blockade strangles shipments from the Persian Gulf and offshore stockpiles feeding China dwindle, putting more pressure on Tehran’s battered economy.

No Iranian crude has crossed the blockade since it was reinstated by the U.S. Navy in mid-July, according to ship tracker Kpler. Iran is still loading small amounts of oil onto tankers, but those barrels remain trapped inside the Gulf.

Meanwhile, the volume of Iranian crude already on vessels outside the blockade—a trove that is still generating revenue for Tehran—has fallen to around 29 million barrels from around 90 million barrels in mid-July and could run out next month, according to Kpler.

Gulf oil officials, who run checks to see what their customers are buying before setting the monthly price for their oil, said they have found few Iranian cargoes changing hands.

Six months into the war, the oil squeeze is depriving Tehran of its main source of foreign currency as the value of the Iranian rial plunges, inflation soars and the economy slides deeper into crisis.

It is also testing Washington’s bet that greater economic pain will force concessions.

Gulf officials and analysts warn the tightening vise could instead provoke more Iranian retaliation.

On Saturday, the U.S. struck three Iranian oil tankers after Iran launched ballistic missiles toward two Navy warships, including an aircraft carrier.

“Now, much will depend on the degree of economic pain that the Iranian regime is willing to bear to achieve its military and geopolitical objectives,” said Hamad Hussain, an economist at Capital Economics.

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent touted the squeeze Friday with a post on X accompanied by a “Jaws”-style graphic of a shark tearing into a chart of Iran’s falling oil exports and currency.

Roughly a third of Iran’s state budget is typically funded by oil revenue. Oil sales also directly help finance the regime’s military.

The U.S. Treasury says the armed forces, including the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, use dedicated companies and shadow-fleet networks to sell crude and supplement their budgets.

Iran loaded 255,000 barrels a day on vessels inside the Gulf in August, 85% below the February-April average, Kpler data shows.

Those newly loaded barrels remain trapped behind the blockade line and haven’t made their way toward buyers.

The diplomatic effort to end the war that led to a memorandum of understanding between the U.S. and Iran in mid-June, including a weekslong pause in the blockade, allowed Tehran to move substantial volumes of oil overseas for later delivery.

The country is still living off the profit from those barrels.

“The process of selling oil and delivering it to customers was carried out thousands of kilometers away from the Persian Gulf and the Sea of Oman,” Iranian Oil Minister Mohsen Paknejad said Friday.

But now that lifeline is disappearing. Kpler estimates that current deliveries of around a million barrels a day—which mostly go to China—could exhaust the store of Iranian oil on the water by mid-October.

Payments for previously delivered cargoes would likely dry up by mid-December.

Even those payments could become harder to collect. Sanctions under Washington’s new economic pressure campaign are targeting banks and other financial channels that facilitate Iranian transactions.

Some Chinese buyers are turning to Saudi, Iraqi and United Arab Emirates crude, Gulf energy officials said. In some cases, Iranian oil now costs refiners more than competing supplies due to its relative scarcity, they said.

Iraq has offered discounts of nearly $30 a barrel on some grades. Brent crude was trading at around $97 a barrel Monday.

The blockade is also forcing Iran to cut some production. Oil stockpiles haven’t risen much, suggesting Iran has brought its output down closer to what it needs at home, said Homayoun Falakshahi, head of crude-oil analysis at Kpler.

That suggests the scenario analysts predicted during the initial blockade this spring—that Iran would have to pare back output to keep its backed-up oil from hitting the “tank tops” of available storage—is playing out.

Overland routes offer little relief. It is only possible to move small amounts of oil by truck or rail compared with seaborne exports and Iran mostly lacks wagons designed for crude or refined products. Iran could move no more than 40,000 barrels a day via trucks, a sliver of its prewar exports of close to 2 million barrels a day, Falakshahi said.

The pressure extends to petrochemicals. The sector, Iran’s second-largest source of foreign-currency earnings after oil, also depends heavily on seaborne exports.

By August, loadings had fallen by about two-thirds from early 2026, Kpler estimates.

By contrast, other Gulf producers have kept significant volumes flowing despite the conflict, with the U.S. guiding convoys through the Strait of Hormuz, and Saudi Arabia and the U.A.E. routing more crude through pipelines that bypass the waterway.

The Iranian export squeeze is deepening the economic crisis in a country where official inflation is running at more than 80% year-over-year.

The International Monetary Fund forecasts a 5.4% economic contraction this year, the country’s worst since the 1980s.

Falling exports deprive Tehran of the hard currency it needs to support the rial and pay for imports, including raw materials for factories.

That makes imports more expensive and fuels inflation. The rial has lost almost 15% of its value against the dollar since President Trump announced his economic squeeze campaign in August, Hussain said.

Iran’s overall trade hasn’t stopped entirely. The regime exported nearly $15 billion of non-oil goods between mid-March and mid-August, according to Iranian media, though that value is down from last year.

But a major commercial gateway has recently narrowed. Official trade through the U.A.E. has largely stopped after the country said last month it would suspend financial and economic transactions with Iran, officials familiar with the matter said, although some trade continues through shadow companies.

Trade is also shifting through Turkey, Iraq, Oman and Pakistan, but that adds time and expense.

Gulf officials and analysts see little sign that the mounting economic pressure will force Tehran to relent.

Saudi officials say Iran is also providing more weapons, personnel and intelligence support to its Houthi allies in Yemen, increasing the threat to Saudi shipping and infrastructure, and threatening another shipping chokepoint.

“The U.S. campaign will have a significant effect on the average Iranian household. But in terms of Iran capitulating at the negotiating table? I have a lot of doubts,” said Ellie Geranmayeh, an Iran expert at the European Council on Foreign Relations.

“The evidence we have suggests the Iranian regime is likely to resist.”






"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."

Robert A. Heinlein, Friday
9/8/2026 10:22:01 AM EDT
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the downed F-15 pilot will be on 60mins next Sunday.

9/8/2026 10:34:59 AM EDT
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the downed F-15 pilot will be on 60mins next Sunday.

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Bet 60 minutes tries to spin the interview into their typical TDS BS. They will probably say the pilot ditched his plane in protest of the conflict or some such nonsense.
Life's battles don't always go to the stronger or faster man. In the end, the one who wins is the one who thinks he can! - SCI, NRA
Team Ranstad
9/8/2026 11:46:12 AM EDT
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9/8/2026 12:20:12 PM EDT
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Wait until they find the self destruct button
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9/8/2026 1:18:48 PM EDT
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all is going according to plan i guess...

Oil $90
Diesel - almost $6
Gas - +88% year to date
Coal - +38% YTD
Copper - +18% YTD
Rice - +60% YTD
Wheat - +$42% TD
Eggs - $30% YTD

way to go i guess
9/8/2026 1:55:21 PM EDT
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all is going according to plan i guess...

Oil $90
Diesel - almost $6
Gas - +88% year to date
Coal - +38% YTD
Copper - +18% YTD
Rice - +60% YTD
Wheat - +$42% TD
Eggs - $30% YTD

way to go i guess
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Gas in Albany NY averaged $3.12 per gallon in December 2025 and averages $4.22 a gallon today - far cry from an 88% increase. And I can get gas, today, at Sam's Club for $4.00. That's about 28% more not 88%.

In Albany, eggs were $2.71 - $2.86 per dozen in December 2025 and $1.67 - $2.20 per dozen today.

Where are you getting your numbers? Smells like rotten eggs and bullshit.
The duty of a patriot is to protect his nation from its government.

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"
9/8/2026 2:12:20 PM EDT
[#42]

"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."

Robert A. Heinlein, Friday
9/8/2026 2:18:07 PM EDT
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Gas in Albany NY averaged $3.12 per gallon in December 2025 and averages $4.22 a gallon today - far cry from an 88% increase. And I can get gas, today, at Sam's Club for $4.00. That's about 28% more not 88%.

In Albany, eggs were $2.71 - $2.86 per dozen in December 2025 and $1.67 - $2.20 per dozen today.

Where are you getting your numbers? Smells like rotten eggs and bullshit.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/data-graphics/gas-prices-iran-war-state-national-cost-trump-rcna265835

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9/8/2026 2:19:21 PM EDT
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Gas in Albany NY averaged $3.12 per gallon in December 2025 and averages $4.22 a gallon today - far cry from an 88% increase. And I can get gas, today, at Sam's Club for $4.00. That's about 28% more not 88%.

In Albany, eggs were $2.71 - $2.86 per dozen in December 2025 and $1.67 - $2.20 per dozen today.

Where are you getting your numbers? Smells like rotten eggs and bullshit.
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Originally Posted By heat762:
all is going according to plan i guess...

Oil $90
Diesel - almost $6
Gas - +88% year to date
Coal - +38% YTD
Copper - +18% YTD
Rice - +60% YTD
Wheat - +$42% TD
Eggs - $30% YTD

way to go i guess


Gas in Albany NY averaged $3.12 per gallon in December 2025 and averages $4.22 a gallon today - far cry from an 88% increase. And I can get gas, today, at Sam's Club for $4.00. That's about 28% more not 88%.

In Albany, eggs were $2.71 - $2.86 per dozen in December 2025 and $1.67 - $2.20 per dozen today.

Where are you getting your numbers? Smells like rotten eggs and bullshit.
Eggs are $1.50 to $2 for a dozen.  Not the $1 some years ago but great pricing

In CA 2025 gas was $4.50, today $5.59 so about 25% increase
"We will always remember. We will always be proud. We will always be prepared so we may always be free." Ronald Reagan 1984

"Mitch the almost dead democrat bitch"

2026, the bigger better democrat election fraud
9/8/2026 3:19:26 PM EDT
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9/8/2026 3:23:21 PM EDT
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Gas in Albany NY averaged $3.12 per gallon in December 2025 and averages $4.22 a gallon today - far cry from an 88% increase. And I can get gas, today, at Sam's Club for $4.00. That's about 28% more not 88%.

In Albany, eggs were $2.71 - $2.86 per dozen in December 2025 and $1.67 - $2.20 per dozen today.

Where are you getting your numbers? Smells like rotten eggs and bullshit.
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Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Originally Posted By heat762:
all is going according to plan i guess...

Oil $90
Diesel - almost $6
Gas - +88% year to date
Coal - +38% YTD
Copper - +18% YTD
Rice - +60% YTD
Wheat - +$42% TD
Eggs - $30% YTD

way to go i guess


Gas in Albany NY averaged $3.12 per gallon in December 2025 and averages $4.22 a gallon today - far cry from an 88% increase. And I can get gas, today, at Sam's Club for $4.00. That's about 28% more not 88%.

In Albany, eggs were $2.71 - $2.86 per dozen in December 2025 and $1.67 - $2.20 per dozen today.

Where are you getting your numbers? Smells like rotten eggs and bullshit.


https://tradingeconomics.com/commodities
9/8/2026 3:24:42 PM EDT
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https://tradingeconomics.com/commodities
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How dare you post a credible source!
9/8/2026 3:32:39 PM EDT
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https://tradingeconomics.com/commodities
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Originally Posted By heat762:
Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Originally Posted By heat762:
all is going according to plan i guess...

Oil $90
Diesel - almost $6
Gas - +88% year to date
Coal - +38% YTD
Copper - +18% YTD
Rice - +60% YTD
Wheat - +$42% TD
Eggs - $30% YTD

way to go i guess


Gas in Albany NY averaged $3.12 per gallon in December 2025 and averages $4.22 a gallon today - far cry from an 88% increase. And I can get gas, today, at Sam's Club for $4.00. That's about 28% more not 88%.

In Albany, eggs were $2.71 - $2.86 per dozen in December 2025 and $1.67 - $2.20 per dozen today.

Where are you getting your numbers? Smells like rotten eggs and bullshit.


https://tradingeconomics.com/commodities


What does that have to do with the price of rice in China. You posted percentages that I'm not seeing on the local level. Some abstract national average means nothing to me. What matters is what I pay. Price per gallon depends on a lot of things. Distance to the closest refinery, required blends to meet local environmental regulations, state and local taxes, etc.

Figures lie and liars figure. Not calling anybody a liar, just pointing out that statistics on their surface rarely if ever tell the true and whole story.
The duty of a patriot is to protect his nation from its government.

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"
9/8/2026 3:40:14 PM EDT
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Reports are emerging from Iranian state media that U.S. forces have struck three Iranian oil tankers, following the earlier U.S. announcement that three Iranian crude carriers were disabled or destroyed on September 5. CENTCOM said the strikes were carried out after Iran launched ballistic missiles toward two U.S. Navy warships.

Just over 30 minutes ago, Iran’s Chief of Staff of the Armed Forces reportedly warned that U.S. forces had ordered crews aboard Iranian tankers to evacuate ahead of additional attacks. He also warned that any further attacks on Iranian tankers would result in Iranian attacks against U.S. bases across the region.

More to come on this situation.
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Robert A. Heinlein, Friday

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