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7/31/2025 9:56:42 AM EDT
The International Defensive Pistol Association, Inc. (IDPA), in response to numerous reports and videos, is immediately prohibiting the use of the SIG Sauer P320 in all of it’s variants from any competition or event under the name of IDPA.  All other SIG Sauer models may be used in the division appropriate for their configuration.

The goal of IDPA is safety first for our members, competitors, staff and spectators and all others associated with any IDPA event.  While we have no direct knowledge of the potential technical defect of the weapon system, the volume of ranges, organizations and military units declaring a problem has made it too visible to deny.  We will re-evaluate this decision in the future if new credible information emerges.

We are aware that this decision will affect a limited number of competitors at the National Championship.  Please understand that safety for all in the sport is paramount.  For those affected, please contact [email protected] .  Division changes for those affected will be allowed until August 8.

"IDPA is committed to maintaining a fair, competitive, and inclusive environment for all shooters," said IDPA President Joyce Wilson. "Banning a particular firearm is the last thing we ever want to do as an organization, but the safety of our members and potential spectators has to come first."
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Oooof.

From their FB page.

7/31/2025 9:57:57 AM EDT
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Sig lawsuit coming in 3....2....1...
7/31/2025 9:58:05 AM EDT
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That’s a huge hit. I know a ton of competitors who shoot the 320 and shoot all kinds of matches from local, state and regional.
7/31/2025 9:58:07 AM EDT
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Does it end today?

ETA:  I don't see how individuals or entities can be compelled to use a product under pain of torts.
7/31/2025 9:59:53 AM EDT
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Its ending faster than it was yesterday.
7/31/2025 10:00:23 AM EDT
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Doubt.
7/31/2025 10:00:34 AM EDT
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The International Defensive Pistol Association, Inc. (IDPA), in response to numerous reports and videos, is immediately prohibiting the use of the SIG Sauer P320 in all of it’s variants from any competition or event under the name of IDPA.  All other SIG Sauer models may be used in the division appropriate for their configuration.

The goal of IDPA is safety first for our members, competitors, staff and spectators and all others associated with any IDPA event.  While we have no direct knowledge of the potential technical defect of the weapon system, the volume of ranges, organizations and military units declaring a problem has made it too visible to deny.  We will re-evaluate this decision in the future if new credible information emerges.

We are aware that this decision will affect a limited number of competitors at the National Championship.  Please understand that safety for all in the sport is paramount.  For those affected, please contact [email protected] .  Division changes for those affected will be allowed until August 8.

"IDPA is committed to maintaining a fair, competitive, and inclusive environment for all shooters," said IDPA President Joyce Wilson. "Banning a particular firearm is the last thing we ever want to do as an organization, but the safety of our members and potential spectators has to come first."
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Oooof.

From their FB page.

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7/31/2025 10:01:10 AM EDT
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I have a feeling that the P320 is going to be prolific in certain dense , ahem, urban areas in the near future.
7/31/2025 10:01:17 AM EDT
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But a bubba’d trigger 1911 is still ok?  Asking for my boomer buddy…
7/31/2025 10:01:34 AM EDT
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And Sig still refuses to admit fault and still stands by the 320.  



7/31/2025 10:02:13 AM EDT
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Self correcting problem?
7/31/2025 10:02:41 AM EDT
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7/31/2025 10:02:43 AM EDT
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7/31/2025 10:05:13 AM EDT
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So, does Sig USA make it past 2028 ?
7/31/2025 10:05:54 AM EDT
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Maybe make a special class where they all have to use paint balls...
7/31/2025 10:07:48 AM EDT
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7/31/2025 10:09:35 AM EDT
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I'm surprised those Fudds didn't ban it a while back.
7/31/2025 10:11:27 AM EDT
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Probably a good question.  

Many people have not only sworn off the P320 but the company itself due to how they have handled this.  I have four Sig pistols.  I have Sig red dots and weapon lights.  They will never see another penny from me.  If a large enough number of people do the same, they could be in for a whoopin'

Of course, much has to do with military contracts i suppose


7/31/2025 10:14:56 AM EDT
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I wonder how long before psa pulls them off the shelves? I bet they’re the first.
7/31/2025 10:15:08 AM EDT
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Poor Malcolm.
7/31/2025 10:15:21 AM EDT
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IDPA can plausibly claim they have no knowledge of bubba and his Dremel.

7/31/2025 10:17:02 AM EDT
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Online retailers have already begun removing them from available inventory. It's just a matter of time, now.
7/31/2025 10:17:49 AM EDT
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I've seen them on sale on their website lately
7/31/2025 10:17:59 AM EDT
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Probably a good question.  

Many people have not only sworn off the P320 but the company itself due to how they have handled this.  I have four Sig pistols.  I have Sig red dots and weapon lights.  They will never see another penny from me.  If a large enough number of people do the same, they could be in for a whoopin'

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I have a few hammer fired variants that I like.  I will never buy another Sig product based on how they've handled this situation.

Everyone makes mistakes, but their response (particularly suing people/groups that don't want to use their shit products) is inexcusable.  No more Sig.  Ever.

Too bad too, because I was really thinking hard on an a P226X5.  Oh well, there are certainly other alternatives.

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My LGS listed all of their new 320 inventory on Gunbroker, starting at 0.01 with no reserve.  The writing is on the wall.
7/31/2025 10:19:18 AM EDT
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Ackchually...

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Not unless there is a P320 switch that can be installed. Otherwise Glock switch will dominate.
7/31/2025 10:20:47 AM EDT
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The next step will be making buyers sign an agreement that it’s not Sig’s fault if their handgun fires on its own
7/31/2025 10:21:33 AM EDT
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Those fudds are just butthurt that you don't necessarily need to pull the trigger on a P320 to "show clear"
7/31/2025 10:21:52 AM EDT
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Probably a good question.  

Many people have not only sworn off the P320 but the company itself due to how they have handled this.  I have four Sig pistols.  I have Sig red dots and weapon lights.  They will never see another penny from me.  If a large enough number of people do the same, they could be in for a whoopin'

Of course, much has to do with military contracts i suppose


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So, does Sig USA make it past 2028 ?

Probably a good question.  

Many people have not only sworn off the P320 but the company itself due to how they have handled this.  I have four Sig pistols.  I have Sig red dots and weapon lights.  They will never see another penny from me.  If a large enough number of people do the same, they could be in for a whoopin'

Of course, much has to do with military contracts i suppose




100% this. I won't buy anymore Sig products not because they apparently designed a defective pistol, but because of how they have handled the situation. It makes me lose all faith and trust in them. They clearly put profit above the safety of their customers through their response.


7/31/2025 10:24:16 AM EDT
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The comments section on Facebook is exactly who you think it is. If you mentally picture them.  And exactly what you feel like they would say supporting Sig.
7/31/2025 10:25:03 AM EDT
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Arfcom should ban the P320 and anyone who starts another thread about it outside the handgun forum
7/31/2025 10:29:22 AM EDT
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With the amount of momentum building, it is hard to see how Sig comes back from this unless they flat out discontinue the P320.
7/31/2025 10:29:39 AM EDT
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About 10 to 20% of the guys do, or did, here.
7/31/2025 10:30:39 AM EDT
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I bought my Wilson 320 for a game gun. YAY..... Back to single stack.
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I bought my Wilson 320 for a game gun. YAY..... Back to single stack.

Single Stack is USPSA. Are you meaning CDP?
7/31/2025 10:37:40 AM EDT
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Probably a good question.  

Many people have not only sworn off the P320 but the company itself due to how they have handled this.  I have four Sig pistols.  I have Sig red dots and weapon lights.  They will never see another penny from me.  If a large enough number of people do the same, they could be in for a whoopin'

Of course, much has to do with military contracts i suppose


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I think they will end up having to restructure/get bought out as a result of the 320 issues.  they set up a giant infrastructure aimed at becoming a one stop shop for defense contracts that was funded directly through the 320's success in the LE and consumer market and that's going to abruptly disappear.  even if they don't pay a single dollar in the lawsuits, the loss of that revenue stream is going to have a dramatic impact on sig.

Add in the public perception issue of sig selling dangerous guns and that's going to be tough to overcome.

I could see the following:
sig defense for 320/MCX foreign military sales
Sig Legacy for 22X series
Sig Precision for the 210/211's

7/31/2025 10:39:01 AM EDT
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Isolate and squad all the 320 shooters together at every match.  See how dearly they hold their "nothing wrong" beliefs.
7/31/2025 10:40:26 AM EDT
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Gunslaps has some of the funniest meme's out there.

anything involving a Draco is gold.
7/31/2025 10:41:16 AM EDT
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My LGS listed all of their new 320 inventory on Gunbroker, starting at 0.01 with no reserve.  The writing is on the wall.
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Hmm, for a .01 one to use in a flux chassis.
7/31/2025 10:43:08 AM EDT
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Sig the lawsuit will only make you look even more desperate.
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They will probably end up selling them internationally, to a less litigious country.  

7/31/2025 10:43:32 AM EDT
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That is going to be the nail in the coffin. When dealers start refusing to sell them.
7/31/2025 10:43:57 AM EDT
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Facebook is the online version of a trip to Walmart. No thanks.
7/31/2025 10:44:57 AM EDT
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Srsly. For a penny ill take my chances
7/31/2025 10:45:23 AM EDT
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Driving 1600 miles to a gun buyback in Chicago for an Amazon gift card is looking better every day

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That is going to be the nail in the coffin. When dealers start refusing to sell them.
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That is going to be the nail in the coffin. When dealers start refusing to sell them.

It's already begun.

People have been talking about their LGS refusing to take in P320s and pulling them off the shelves. One online retailer in the big thread has pulled all P320s from available inventory. Gun Broker has no-reserve starting at $0.01 P320s now, too.

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