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4/16/2023 9:46:44 PM EDT

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4/16/2023 9:56:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mnd][Edited] [#1]

ETA:  So you're the couch?
4/16/2023 9:58:59 PM EDT
[#2]
Any particular parking lot?
Looks like govt delivery.
4/16/2023 10:08:00 PM EDT
[#3]
Why is the one over the cab backed on? To keep the engine weight further to the center?
4/16/2023 10:08:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Urimaginaryfrnd:
Any particular parking lot?
Looks like govt delivery.
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Those are export vehicles headed to the Middle East.  Mostly Saudi Arabia.
4/16/2023 10:11:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PhuzzyGnu][Edited] [#5]
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Originally Posted By MaxFenig:
Why is the one over the cab backed on? To keep the engine weight further to the center?
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Height.

In Texas we are allowed to run at 14'0".  On this transport you have to back it on and drop the wheels into the pockets to get the height down.

It's a "healthy" 14 foot even so.

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The Toyota load above load was 13'10" because the Tundra has a solid rear axle and the wheels can be dropped farther into the pockets.

The Tahoe/Denali/Escalades have a rear IFS which will bottom out if you aren't careful.

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4/16/2023 10:14:03 PM EDT
[#6]
That's a mean sun visor. Ain't no chrome shop got one like that.
Award: 24/365 Most likely to be an appendix.

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4/16/2023 10:16:25 PM EDT
[#7]
I said 'make a rule about them lot lizards early'

Here we are.  
Known as Pivot.

ADT/Protect Your Home steals from the elderly.
Hope you die young, Hospice can't kill you then.
4/16/2023 10:18:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dopple:
That's a mean sun visor. Ain't no chrome shop got one like that.
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Best in the industry.

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4/16/2023 10:33:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PhuzzyGnu:

Height.

In Texas we are allowed to run at 14'0".  On this transport you have to back it on and drop the wheels into the pockets to get the height down.

It's a "healthy" 14 foot even so.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/PXL_20230413_231740815-01_2_jpeg-2785643.JPG

The Toyota load above load was 13'10" because the Tundra has a solid rear axle and the wheels can be dropped farther into the pockets.

The Tahoe/Denali/Escalades have a rear IFS which will bottom out if you aren't careful.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/PXL_20211130_214652732_jpg-2785660.JPG

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Thank you very much for the explanation.
4/17/2023 4:30:36 AM EDT
[#10]
How do you deal with redlights?
4/17/2023 6:38:12 AM EDT
[#11]
I'd be more scared to back the vehicles on those ramps than anything.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Nice-lowers-and-help-out-a-good-organization-/4-776074/
4/17/2023 7:06:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PyrPaw:
How do you deal with redlights?
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X1
4/17/2023 7:43:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PyrPaw:
How do you deal with redlights?
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You have to be careful driving down a surface street because the lights tend to disappear behind the vehicle and/or that crossbar.  Every. Time.
Can't see them when you pull up to them.

I'll look at the reflection in the hood.  Or I'll wait for everyone else to go- the can't all be wrong, can they?

4/17/2023 8:44:31 AM EDT
[#14]
I'm surprised they don't have a camera up front for you to see overhead signage and lights.

I'm also surprised that they put a vehicle there for weight considerations...that's a lot of weight on those front two tires.
4/17/2023 9:07:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By -Obsessed-:
I'm also surprised that they put a vehicle there for weight considerations...that's a lot of weight on those front two tires.
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He’s not able to put any of his trailer weight on the front axle since he has a rear coupler unlike having a 5th wheel you can slide. He won’t be weighing much anyhow compared to hauling commodities where you can load to max legal weight if that’s all you want.the front axle can normally carry 12,000. I don’t know if OP’s rating is the same with those tires or not.
4/17/2023 9:24:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By -Obsessed-:

I'm also surprised that they put a vehicle there for weight considerations...that's a lot of weight on those front two tires.
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Originally Posted By harrymank:


.the front axle can normally carry 12,000. I don't know if OP's rating is the same with those tires or not.
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We run a 14,600lb steer axle with load range J 130psi steers.

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In Louisiana and other states we can run 14,600 up front.  Texas goes by tire rating so we can run 14,780lbs on the steers.

The load in the OP is legal on all axles and gross.  Barely.  The sleeper truck is heavier than our daycabs.

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My truck with the load above is only 13,500 or so on the steers and around 76k gross.

4/17/2023 9:29:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PhuzzyGnu:


We run a 14,600lb steer axle with load range J 130psi steers.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/PXL_20230417_131634573_jpg-2785939.JPG

In Louisiana and other states we can run 14,600 up front.  Texas goes by tire rating so we can run 14,780lbs on the steers.

The load in the OP is legal on all axles and gross.  Barely.  The sleeper truck is heavier than our daycabs.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/PXL_20211210_171441825-01_jpeg-2785941.JPG

My truck with the load above is only 13,500 or so on the steers and around 76k gross.

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Very cool. Thanks for the info.
4/17/2023 10:05:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: harrymank][Edited] [#18]
Colorado sucks on weight limits if you follow the law.  Most ag guys buy a divisible permit which allows them to go to 97k but I’ve never gotten an answer on how you are supposed to axle out in that instance.
4/17/2023 11:09:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: PhuzzyGnu][Edited] [#19]
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Originally Posted By harrymank:


He's not able to put any of his trailer weight on the front axle since he has a rear coupler unlike having a 5th wheel you can slide.
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I do have a fifth wheel but it's itty bitty.  It does not slide, though some transports have sliding fifth wheels or kingpins.  (The "no step" parts are rock guards that keep debris from peppering the bottom front car.  They go under the nose of the trailer in turns).

Also, the pictures above and below show the difference in available space between a daycab (above) and a sleeper (my old one, below).  I can put a full size truck behind the cab on my current daycab and nothing hangs over.  On my sleeper truck even a small Caddy SUV would overhang and limit my turning clearance.

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4/17/2023 11:42:50 AM EDT
[#20]
Are RR crossings a problem?
4/17/2023 12:00:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PyrPaw:
Are RR crossings a problem?
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They can be.  Search YouTube for evidence.

We have an overlift switch that over-inflates the air bags on our drives and trailers.  It gives us about 4" more clearance.  

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These trucks drag everywhere.
4/17/2023 12:39:52 PM EDT
[#22]
Good pics- thanks!
4/18/2023 12:20:12 AM EDT
[#23]
How often do you run into problems with damage from transport?
4/18/2023 8:06:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By harrymank:
How often do you run into problems with damage from transport?
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I don't damage vehicles.  At least no at-fault damages since January 2015 when I nicked a Camry bumper. Being OCD is helpful.

(knock on wood)

As for not at fault, I'll have a couple of rear glass blowouts a year and the occasional rock chip.  My most expensive was a surprise hail storm in west Texas that totalled seven out of nine vehicles.  

Some guys tear shit up all the time.



4/18/2023 8:25:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mnd:
https://i.imgflip.com/7ieiea.jpg
ETA:  So you're the couch?
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Never has a more perfect picture online been found so fast. Bravo for making me laugh so hard I can't breathe! And there's even six of 'em.

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4/18/2023 8:42:08 AM EDT
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@PhuzzyGnu


If a vehicle is damaged due to loading, presumably you (or your insurance?) pay for the damage.  


Who is responsible in the case of hail as you mentioned?
4/18/2023 9:29:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: PhuzzyGnu][Edited] [#27]
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Originally Posted By Woodchuck1:
@PhuzzyGnu


If a vehicle is damaged due to loading, presumably you (or your insurance?) pay for the damage.  


Who is responsible in the case of hail as you mentioned?
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I'm a company driver.  The company self-pays for damages <$50,000*.  I have a quality bonus (3.5% per quarter) that is affected if I have damages.

Owner-operators have cargo damage insurance but will often pay small damages out of pocket to avoid deductibles and rate increases.

In the case of the hailstorm, it was an Act of God and insurance paid.


*We once had a driver back a luxury vehicle into a pole at parking lot speeds.  It hit in just the right place at just the right angle to damage the body and the hatch and other stuff to the tune of $49,000+.  It is our most expensive, non-totalled, self pay.


4/18/2023 1:14:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PhuzzyGnu:

I don't damage vehicles.  At least no at-fault damages since January 2015 when I nicked a Camry bumper. Being OCD is helpful.

(knock on wood)

As for not at fault, I'll have a couple of rear glass blowouts a year and the occasional rock chip.  My most expensive was a surprise hail storm in west Texas that totalled seven out of nine vehicles.  

Some guys tear shit up all the time.



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Weather or road debris is what I meant. You usually sound like you are on top of things so I wouldn’t expect you do be doing damage.
4/18/2023 2:49:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By harrymank:


Weather or road debris is what I meant. You usually sound like you are on top of things so I wouldn't expect you do be doing damage.
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We once had 3 or 4 trucks -each loaded with 11 cars- convoying out of a manufacturer in Mississippi.

They got caught in a storm that was possibly tornadic and they all lost their entire loads.  I believe the shipper's insurance paid on that one.

Road debris is uncommon, surprisingly enough.  Eyebrows raise when a driver has too many "road debris" claims.

The best confirmed road debris story I know involved a driver, a Toyota Sienna backed on up top and in front, and a large seagull.  The driver saw the bird fly up, thought he hit it and pulled over.  Yup- the rear window was broken.

Oh well, he thought, he was close to the dealer so no biggee.

He gets to the dealer, unloads everything else and climbs up to get the Sienna...  And it "looked like a pillow fight murder scene".  The big ol' bird didn't die instantly when it when through the Sienna back window.  It made it inside and flopped around the entire cream colored interior of the van, shedding blood and feathers everywhere.


4/22/2023 11:37:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Cheepjeep85][Edited] [#30]
@PhuzzyGnu did you pass thru chattanooga tn last week? I think i may have passed you. Bolt face logo on the back of the sleeper?
4/22/2023 11:48:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cheepjeep85:
@PhuzzyGnu did you pass thru chattanooga tn last week? I think i may have passed you. Bolt face logo on the back of the sleeper?
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That was my old truck.


4/23/2023 12:03:09 AM EDT
[#32]
Are you hauling to dealers only? Any private transport?
4/23/2023 3:54:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By xXNuggettXx:
Are you hauling to dealers only? Any private transport?
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99% contract OEM new cars to dealers or direct ship to fleet customers.

1% spot buy broker loads for customers like Carvana or CarMax.
4/23/2023 5:42:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: OverScoped][Edited] [#34]
How much does it really cost to ship 1 Jap car from California to Pennsylvania if  they are bulk shipped.

I'm assuming most is by rail.

Dealers around here charge 1500 bucks each..


https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Nice-lowers-and-help-out-a-good-organization-/4-776074/
4/23/2023 10:29:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By OverScoped:
How much does it really cost to ship 1 Jap car from California to Pennsylvania if  they are bulk shipped.

I'm assuming most is by rail.

Dealers around here charge 1500 bucks each..


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I don't know for sure but I'll ask.

4/23/2023 10:43:01 AM EDT
[#36]
I drove a mixer for a couple of years and it was pretty tippy. I can only imagine how tippy that rig is.
4/23/2023 11:56:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By VACaver:
I drove a mixer for a couple of years and it was pretty tippy. I can only imagine how tippy that rig is.
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They aren't bad.

My transport is very light at 42,500 lbs empty and much of the weight is down low.  A load will never be more than 37,500.

They have a floaty, bouncy ride.  A primary hit from the Peterbilt's suspension and then a secondary and tertiary bounce from the compression and rebound of the cargo units.
8/6/2023 7:40:38 PM EDT
[#38]
Who drives the cars on?

GD is like putting on crampons and walking through a room full of puppies.
8/6/2023 8:08:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FredMan:
Who drives the cars on?

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I load and unload the vehicles.

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I'm not particularly fast but this one took an hour or so to fetch, load, and secure the cars. We have city drivers that do five or six local loads a day and they will load a truck properly in 20 minutes.

Fun fact: the Carvana transport guys do not load their own trucks.

8/7/2023 8:24:42 PM EDT
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I assume you have a spotter while loading?

I’d be paranoid about screwing up.

GD is like putting on crampons and walking through a room full of puppies.
8/7/2023 8:36:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FredMan:
I assume you have a spotter while loading?

I'd be paranoid about screwing up.

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No need.  You get used to it after you do it a few thousand times.

No pressure or anything.  Just back this $80k Tundra TRD Pro down into the belly in the rain, huh?

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