Posted: 7/10/2026 9:07:05 AM EDT
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Recently I saw a video or post stating we won’t have open contact with these other beings until everyone one the planet is aware of and believes in their existence. Do we really want to have open contact with these creatures whatever they are??? |
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Originally Posted By wildturl1: Could they already be here as well?  Originally Posted By wildturl1: Originally Posted By dirtyboy: Do we have a choice? Could they already be here as well? That's the thing, isn't it? Can't know who to trust on anything anymore. That one fringe bureaucrat into all the new age fringe stuff says they are around DC and others say they are among us. Shapeshifters and the legends about them perhaps? It's really a hard problem if you're not allowed to stand out, like walking around with a FLIR camera too make sure body heat signatures match 'normal humans' or something. I'm thinking we'll hear more soon, they've really pushed away for the hardware/UAP part of it and have swerved into EBE/NHI territory which I had thought less likely than the UAP, but the UP A stuff has been pretty much confirmed by a dozen ore more people in the know but no peep from them beyond "Yes, they exist", they aren't going to blue doing a UFO air show I guess. |
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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All evidence points to psychological and physical aggression and covert operation with no regard for the most basic human rights, or universal rights. Violations in every way, interference, and demonstrations of superiority to engender fear. So no. I don’t want to meet them. They should go away. |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By sq40: All evidence points to psychological and physical aggression and covert operation with no regard for the most basic human rights, or universal rights. Violations in every way, interference, and demonstrations of superiority to engender fear. So no. I don’t want to meet them. They should go away. yeah, but that damn OBAMA clan, what ever planet they're from won't STFU. |
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I posted this yesterday in the long video thread but his cover photo doesn’t help a lot by making it appear at first as some AI video which it isn’t at all. He does a very great presentation of past and current statements by Eric Davis, David Groush, and a few others describing and making sense of what they can’t say in some cases and even why such as the exact number of craft in our possession. This is one I highly recommend watching when you get a few spare minutes and it’s pretty damn frightening in some ways when you sit and think about it. I’ve stated myself a few times that disclosure itself is likely breaking a contract that was signed decades ago however these things are openly showing themselves to millions on their own now before this current disclosure stuff even came to light so I don’t know what to make of it. Y’all be your own judge. I did a screenshot of him so you may recognize the podcaster. Postdisclosureworld  Only 10 People on Earth Know What’s Actually Happening Attached File |
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they're demons pretending to be space aliens. And they intensely hate human beings. As it was in the days of Noah... |
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Originally Posted By MRW: they're demons pretending to be space aliens. And they intensely hate human beings. As it was in the days of Noah... I lean toward the Timothy Albireno, view angles are the elder race, demons are the spirits of human angel hybrids, and God is not limited to just man as his creation. To me this makes the most sense and has the broadest possible explanation. |
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I want to know everything about them. The good and the bad. There is no point in fearing them. If they wanted us gone, I expect we would have been gone a long time ago. The government should keep the details secret that might help us militarily, but release everything else. You can not classify reality. Also, if these things pose an existential threat, I think the government would have been using that fact already. Those who love having power over their citizens also love a boogeyman. |
It's as if a big chunk of our adult population has lost the ability to tell the difference between what is possible, and what is probable.
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Originally Posted By Birddog15: I want to know everything about them. The good and the bad. There is no point in fearing them. If they wanted us gone, I expect we would have been gone a long time ago. The government should keep the details secret that might help us militarily, but release everything else. You can not classify reality. Also, if these things pose an existential threat, I think the government would have been using that fact already. Those who love having power over their citizens also love a boogeyman. Will this place ever get a freaking like button? |
| One of the first things I would want to know is if they believe in God and Jesus. With that said, even satan believes in God and Jesus, but in an evil way. If the aliens claim they made us thousands of years ago or they created Jesus (i.e. claim he doesn't really exist), then I'll know exactly where they are from. |
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Originally Posted By Birddog15: I want to know everything about them. The good and the bad. There is no point in fearing them. If they wanted us gone, I expect we would have been gone a long time ago. The government should keep the details secret that might help us militarily, but release everything else. You can not classify reality. Also, if these things pose an existential threat, I think the government would have been using that fact already. Those who love having power over their citizens also love a boogeyman. They want our souls. But WE have to denounce God for that to happen. They will convince us that they are God. |
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Originally Posted By sq40: All evidence points to psychological and physical aggression and covert operation with no regard for the most basic human rights, or universal rights. Violations in every way, interference, and demonstrations of superiority to engender fear. So no. I don’t want to meet them. They should go away. Either way we need to know what's out there. if its hostile and we are in danger we as a people need to preparing for what's coming. If they are peaceful great. If they are our benefactors/creators and religion is a sham then we need to know so we can start to heal and figure out what is next. |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: I posted this yesterday in the long video thread but his cover photo doesn’t help a lot by making it appear at first as some AI video which it isn’t at all. He does a very great presentation of past and current statements by Eric Davis, David Groush, and a few others describing and making sense of what they can’t say in some cases and even why such as the exact number of craft in our possession. This is one I highly recommend watching when you get a few spare minutes and it’s pretty damn frightening in some ways when you sit and think about it. I’ve stated myself a few times that disclosure itself is likely breaking a contract that was signed decades ago however these things are openly showing themselves to millions on their own now before this current disclosure stuff even came to light so I don’t know what to make of it. Y’all be your own judge. I did a screenshot of him so you may recognize the podcaster. Postdisclosureworld  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6PuqcFGZ-Mhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/318573/IMG_8359_png-3793243.JPG If the government has had contact and made a deal then why are they releasing all of these videos and photographs saying they are unknown? Are they lying yet again? Do the entities our government made a deal with not know or did we meet them once decades ago and haven't seen them again? |
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Originally Posted By Cooper1: They want our souls. But WE have to denounce God for that to happen. They will convince us that they are God. Originally Posted By Cooper1: Originally Posted By Birddog15: I want to know everything about them. The good and the bad. There is no point in fearing them. If they wanted us gone, I expect we would have been gone a long time ago. The government should keep the details secret that might help us militarily, but release everything else. You can not classify reality. Also, if these things pose an existential threat, I think the government would have been using that fact already. Those who love having power over their citizens also love a boogeyman. They want our souls. But WE have to denounce God for that to happen. They will convince us that they are God. I'm not sure if linked or not but there's stories that "demons" feed from negative human emotions. They'll push people schizophrenic so they'll turn to drugs which generates more pain and misery to that person and people who care about that person, these demons try to keep people on drugs, they want people to be miserable as that is their energy source. That's a bit of the source from the original priests that performed exorcisms. Now UFOs are being mentioned to be linked to paranormal/ghost active sites and even Bigfoot sightings. The people that keep there mind together with their faith in God and turn their attempts to get negative emotions to feed on from you by saying "In the name of Jesus, leave now", which actually has a track record of working. I am not sure if the times it didn't work are the missing people though.  |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By Chuck25: I lean toward the Timothy Albireno, view angles are the elder race, demons are the spirits of human angel hybrids, and God is not limited to just man as his creation. To me this makes the most sense and has the broadest possible explanation. Originally Posted By Chuck25: Originally Posted By MRW: they're demons pretending to be space aliens. And they intensely hate human beings. As it was in the days of Noah... I lean toward the Timothy Albireno, view angles are the elder race, demons are the spirits of human angel hybrids, and God is not limited to just man as his creation. To me this makes the most sense and has the broadest possible explanation. Same. |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By Goback: Either way we need to know what's out there. if its hostile and we are in danger we as a people need to preparing for what's coming. If they are peaceful great. If they are our benefactors/creators and religion is a sham then we need to know so we can start to heal and figure out what is next. Originally Posted By Goback: Originally Posted By sq40: All evidence points to psychological and physical aggression and covert operation with no regard for the most basic human rights, or universal rights. Violations in every way, interference, and demonstrations of superiority to engender fear. So no. I don’t want to meet them. They should go away. Either way we need to know what's out there. if its hostile and we are in danger we as a people need to preparing for what's coming. If they are peaceful great. If they are our benefactors/creators and religion is a sham then we need to know so we can start to heal and figure out what is next. Telling us they created us would be a lie to claim ownership. I think they have radically different morality. They may claim us a chattel. |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By brass: I'm not sure if linked or not but there's stories that "demons" feed from negative human emotions. They'll push people schizophrenic so they'll turn to drugs which generates more pain and misery to that person and people who care about that person, these demons try to keep people on drugs, they want people to be miserable as that is their energy source. That's a bit of the source from the original priests that performed exorcisms. Now UFOs are being mentioned to be linked to paranormal/ghost active sites and even Bigfoot sightings. The people that keep there mind together with their faith in God and turn their attempts to get negative emotions to feed on from you by saying "In the name of Jesus, leave now", which actually has a track record of working. I am not sure if the times it didn't work are the missing people though. Medication for behavioral health is at an all time high. We see all around us how humanity is in emotional distress, particularly on the left. Now include those drugged up on top of that. Could it be that there is a correlation which what you stated and the increasing appearance of UAPs’? Like moths to a light… |
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Originally Posted By sq40: Telling us they created us would be a lie to claim ownership. I think they have radically different morality. They may claim us a chattel. How would you know it was a lie? If they claimed to have genetically created a slave labor force to drop off on earth and collect whatever material they needed. Religion was created to keep morality up so work production stayed up. Once they had what they needed they discarded us on the planet and left. |
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Originally Posted By Goback: How would you know it was a lie? If they claimed to have genetically created a slave labor force to drop off on earth and collect whatever material they needed. Religion was created to keep morality up so work production stayed up. Once they had what they needed they discarded us on the planet and left. Originally Posted By Goback: Originally Posted By sq40: Telling us they created us would be a lie to claim ownership. I think they have radically different morality. They may claim us a chattel. How would you know it was a lie? If they claimed to have genetically created a slave labor force to drop off on earth and collect whatever material they needed. Religion was created to keep morality up so work production stayed up. Once they had what they needed they discarded us on the planet and left. Two reasons. 1. As a Christian, God Created Us.  2. As someone who didn’t grow up a Christian, darwinian evolution.  Personal opinion. They didn’t create us. I figure they have been messing with us for a long time though. Maybe genetic manipulation, maybe eugenics, maybe knowledge transfer, maybe more. But we have too much genetically in common with all of Gods other creations here on Earth. |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: In the latest Christina video I posted it says FULL disclosure won’t happen until 2034. I seriously doubt I’ll be here by then. In the long thread.  What happened to 2027? I thought that was when some huge disclosure event was supposed to take place. And what makes 2034 to be the year for full disclosure? |
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Originally Posted By qcka: We won't have official contact until we achieve faster than light speed travel. I watched a documentary on this. We likely already have it. Chairman of Lockheed Martin (skunkworks) at Havard or some other "top 10" university said “We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an Act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity…Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do.” — Ben R. Rich Others from him: "It will deflect radar beams like a bulletproof shield, and the missile battery will never electronically 'see' it coming." — Ben R. Rich |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By brass: We likely already have it. Chairman of Lockheed Martin (skunkworks) at Havard or some other "top 10" university said “We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an Act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity…Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do.” — Ben R. Rich Others from him: "It will deflect radar beams like a bulletproof shield, and the missile battery will never electronically 'see' it coming." — Ben R. Rich Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By qcka: We won't have official contact until we achieve faster than light speed travel. I watched a documentary on this. We likely already have it. Chairman of Lockheed Martin (skunkworks) at Havard or some other "top 10" university said “We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an Act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity…Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do.” — Ben R. Rich Others from him: "It will deflect radar beams like a bulletproof shield, and the missile battery will never electronically 'see' it coming." — Ben R. Rich Starship Enterprise awaits. Bet it’s a cool ride. I remember I guess probably some time back in the 90’s talk somewhere on TV that for around 1 trillion $ we could build a ship that could travel the universe. And this was likely on one of the national news shows because it was before I had any internet and before the internet even much existed. And this was way before I had any interest whatsoever in what we are experiencing now. And they may very well have been doing this building stuff that is capable of traveling the universe for a very long time. But will we ever know about it? I highly doubt it. |
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If an interstellar being was able to come to earth, their technology and intellect would vastly outpace ours. The rules of Physics would have to apply to them unless they are some form of encapsulated energy. Then we would not recognize them. Largely we would be like ants on a sugar pile to a 7 year old kid. If it takes them lightyears to travel to earth and they have a lifespan, generations would be raised and die in space. It that happens, their mission would be vastly different than the original one. Like an intergalactic telephone game. |
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Originally Posted By dogtired: If an interstellar being was able to come to earth, their technology and intellect would vastly outpace ours. The rules of Physics would have to apply to them unless they are some form of encapsulated energy. Then we would not recognize them. Largely we would be like ants on a sugar pile to a 7 year old kid. If it takes them lightyears to travel to earth and they have a lifespan, generations would be raised and die in space. It that happens, their mission would be vastly different than the original one. Like an intergalactic telephone game. Their technology may be smart. The beings may be dumb as hell. After seeing what AI can do for morons, I’m convinced that the tools may be a lot smarter than the beings. |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
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Originally Posted By sq40: Their technology may be smart. The beings may be dumb as hell. After seeing what AI can do for morons, I’m convinced that the tools may be a lot smarter than the beings. Footfall? |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Starship Enterprise awaits. Bet it’s a cool ride. I remember I guess probably some time back in the 90’s talk somewhere on TV that for around 1 trillion $ we could build a ship that could travel the universe. And this was likely on one of the national news shows because it was before I had any internet and before the internet even much existed. And this was way before I had any interest whatsoever in what we are experiencing now. And they may very well have been doing this building stuff that is capable of traveling the universe for a very long time. But will we ever know about it? I highly doubt it. That would be another thing that would cause shock. If the aliens have evil intent, it's already in place and has been for thousands of years. The statement that really got me thinking that was stated in an interview was "You cannot classify reality." And that's what they are doing. What we think of how the world works could be complete fabrication which is why children see so much more before they learn to ignore a ton of sensory input. Those close to death also seem closer to the "liminal area" as well as specific deep meditation allowing some to cross the line. It's well documented and a proven fact that remote viewing works. The government has admitted they used it to find the lost crashed jet under Carter administration, and he said that was the most impactful thing he experienced during his presidency. Lots of interviews, the most recent Why Files Basement with Thomas Campbell covered remote viewing. So, I ask myself - What needs to be true for Remote Viewing to function at all, let alone be so accurate? Say it's only right 60% of the time for certain people, some higher and some lower. Anything above 0% should not be possible at all if we look at the world the way we're trained to. Think about it, something on a piece of paper in an envelope they cannot see the contents of, then they meditate and describe all sorts of things about what is written on the envelope. They wake up and describe very specific imagery and colors or even time, but they still do not know what is in the envelope. How can that possibly function? I feel sort of like a Physicist following Newton's Laws and not able to find the "paradoxes" in equations when speed/mass/etc gets very large or very small. It's like magic and simply ignored. Then Einstein came along and explained the only way that can work, and later perfected it. Einstein even had "Dark Matter" but it was called the Æther back then. He removed it due to backlash from other physicists and it was his biggest regret. So the ether went away but came back in the past 20 years because it took physicists 70 years to understand what Einstein was trying to correct for with the "cosmological constant" and light traveling via the Æther, but they call it Dark Matter instead. The reason I'm on this sidetrack is what if they classified ALL of Einstein's equations and papers as well as other contemporary physicists and everything related to relativity was classified. Is there another block of information that allows faster than light travel, collective unconscious, or that we are in a simulation and they don't want us to know about that reality so they classify it and all these scientists are sequestered so they can't leak anything since they're cut off form the world to prevent leaks? I guess I scare myself when I really think about these things, I've had the "downloads" but slightly different. I can't control what shows up, but access is the same as others describe. Some topic comes up and it is literally "remembering" the future and I don't know I know anything about it until it happens. It's information that I have zero chance of accessing, similar to the remote viewing a location in a sealed envelope. Except I'm wide awake and not trying to find something, then I'll see a problem and "remember" the solution but not the full pathway. It's strange and I can't explain "The Source" and for it to be real means we're living in a world closer to The Matrix than we thought. Perhaps Alice in Wonderland gave us lots of tips as well with "the man behind the curtain" line. I think all the inventions of DaVinci were similar to the transfer of information (aka "Downloads"), as well as Shakespeare, cited as “There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.” |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: Footfall? Protector by Larry Niven |
“How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats
And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
His future doom which is but to awake.” - John Keats