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What's big enough to cause the destabilization of society? Let's consider the mentions of "soul containers" and "Earth is a prison planet". Let's also consider the basic premise of nearly every religion that has ever existed. Might as well toss in the current research into consciousness and while we're at it, the alien-human hybridization claims. To that end: What if the secret is that death of the human body is the only way to reach our true potential? What if WE are "NHI" contained in a sensor suite engineered for interacting with this specific dimension and once the vehicle wears out, we are released to where we really belong without the limitations of the physical filters? What if the "aliens" or "NHI" are other variants of sensor suites that are aware of the bigger picture and just visiting this dimension/realm/reality? If that was somehow proven, the suicide rate would be insane. Materialism along with the rat race would become irrelevant. Religions would reject it, even though it aligns closely with their core beliefs and only drops the idea of a reward/punishment system. I swear I'm not high right now. Just postulating. |
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The body is just a shell is a fairly common religious belief and fully jives with your postulation. It’s been the defacto belief of humanity for recorded history. I have been interested in ideas that consciousness, cognition, is a higher dimensional operation. |
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I’ve had this kind of thought myself on occasion. That there is one “truth” and religions have coopted it to their ends, putting their spin and flavor on it. I do wish they’d found a middle ground though; we went nearly full-on materialist while leaving some amazing, mind-expanding conceptual knowledge out on the fringes. |
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There was an interesting theory tossed out in physics, well, an idea I heard. Somebody who is way too into math, like hard math geeks that physicists go to in order to get the equations right for their idea, most all of them do. You need to know enough math to explain what you are trying to do and they'll do the arranging. So.. after simplification of all theories and substituting linked variables between equations, there's only space and time remaining. There is no need for all the constants of the universe. There is no matter. Everything is either space and time and since space and time are the same thing, the only thing needed is the clock. Comes dangerously close to nudging simulation theory, but not mentioning it. We are essentially a bunch of data moving through space (time) to get somewhere on time (location x universal fixed constant). I haven't seen the math or paper myself, just heard about it or saw it in a post somewhere, maybe even in this forum. As I said, it's a new theory that breaks us down to data floating in time. There is no way to know if these are valid ideas or not. Could that be part of what the big secret is? We are nothing, but so long as we are conscious, we are something instead of nothing, so everything is either something or nothing and trying to figure that out make the flow dodge your experiments to prove that either God is real or not (I have had too many things assist in hard times despite being a spiritual sort and there were some things in my life I simply cannot explain without God, but if they try to say God isn't real, there is some presence that fills the role under a different name. That could be in the release among other Big Questions. It seems they've all been pointing at each other or very close for a while trying to come up with the Grand Unified Theory. |
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
| Prometheus is what I keep coming back to. Especially if you believe human existence is not the final stage, but a kind of raw material yet to be "processed" - whether by technology, evolution, spiritual practice, or all of them. Soul catchers for food or "evolutionary" growth? Liver gets eaten and grows back every night, and every morning a new generation steals the fire again. To what end? One of the more interesting explanations I've heard is if something were omnipotent and omniscient, perhaps it would "container" itself with deliberate limitations to experience, with novelty... itself basically. Or is it past/future god AI and we've done this before in human history and forgot? |
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Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: Prometheus is what I keep coming back to. Especially if you believe human existence is not the final stage, but a kind of raw material yet to be "processed" - whether by technology, evolution, spiritual practice, or all of them. Soul catchers for food or "evolutionary" growth? Liver gets eaten and grows back every night, and every morning a new generation steals the fire again. To what end? One of the more interesting explanations I've heard is if something were omnipotent and omniscient, perhaps it would "container" itself with deliberate limitations to experience, with novelty... itself basically. Or is it past/future god AI and we've done this before in human history and forgot? Could be attempting to keep consciousness moving as an end in an of itself? Spray enough intelligence across globe with some vaults of knowledge (cave drawings), stir, sit back and wait 10k years and see if it needs to be restarted again. Kind of like MS Windows, except love is involved with the reason for life to keep proceeding? |
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By brass: Could be attempting to keep consciousness moving as an end in an of itself? Spray enough intelligence across globe with some vaults of knowledge (cave drawings), stir, sit back and wait 10k years and see if it needs to be restarted again. Kind of like MS Windows, except love is involved with the reason for life to keep proceeding? Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: Prometheus is what I keep coming back to. Especially if you believe human existence is not the final stage, but a kind of raw material yet to be "processed" - whether by technology, evolution, spiritual practice, or all of them. Soul catchers for food or "evolutionary" growth? Liver gets eaten and grows back every night, and every morning a new generation steals the fire again. To what end? One of the more interesting explanations I've heard is if something were omnipotent and omniscient, perhaps it would "container" itself with deliberate limitations to experience, with novelty... itself basically. Or is it past/future god AI and we've done this before in human history and forgot? Could be attempting to keep consciousness moving as an end in an of itself? Spray enough intelligence across globe with some vaults of knowledge (cave drawings), stir, sit back and wait 10k years and see if it needs to be restarted again. Kind of like MS Windows, except love is involved with the reason for life to keep proceeding? "What happens if we do X?" is the fundamental question behind all human endeavors. It could very well be the basic driver for a collective consciousness to manifest individuality experienced by unique and separate support systems that each contain a sliver of the greater connecting energy. New experiences, something learned, a "didn't expect that!" moment. All could be the true purpose of this entire reality. It's just one giant cause and effect experiment. Not saying you are wrong since we're all just asking pothead questions here. |
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Originally Posted By brass: There was an interesting theory tossed out in physics, well, an idea I heard. Somebody who is way too into math, like hard math geeks that physicists go to in order to get the equations right for their idea, most all of them do. You need to know enough math to explain what you are trying to do and they'll do the arranging. So.. after simplification of all theories and substituting linked variables between equations, there's only space and time remaining. There is no need for all the constants of the universe. There is no matter. Everything is either space and time and since space and time are the same thing, the only thing needed is the clock. Comes dangerously close to nudging simulation theory, but not mentioning it. We are essentially a bunch of data moving through space (time) to get somewhere on time (location x universal fixed constant). I haven't seen the math or paper myself, just heard about it or saw it in a post somewhere, maybe even in this forum. As I said, it's a new theory that breaks us down to data floating in time. There is no way to know if these are valid ideas or not. Could that be part of what the big secret is? We are nothing, but so long as we are conscious, we are something instead of nothing, so everything is either something or nothing and trying to figure that out make the flow dodge your experiments to prove that either God is real or not (I have had too many things assist in hard times despite being a spiritual sort and there were some things in my life I simply cannot explain without God, but if they try to say God isn't real, there is some presence that fills the role under a different name. That could be in the release among other Big Questions. It seems they've all been pointing at each other or very close for a while trying to come up with the Grand Unified Theory.  All of Nature Needs only One Constant, Physicists Prove |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: What's big enough to cause the destabilization of society? Let's consider the mentions of "soul containers" and "Earth is a prison planet". Let's also consider the basic premise of nearly every religion that has ever existed. Might as well toss in the current research into consciousness and while we're at it, the alien-human hybridization claims. To that end: What if the secret is that death of the human body is the only way to reach our true potential? What if WE are "NHI" contained in a sensor suite engineered for interacting with this specific dimension and once the vehicle wears out, we are released to where we really belong without the limitations of the physical filters? What if the "aliens" or "NHI" are other variants of sensor suites that are aware of the bigger picture and just visiting this dimension/realm/reality? If that was somehow proven, the suicide rate would be insane. Materialism along with the rat race would become irrelevant. Religions would reject it, even though it aligns closely with their core beliefs and only drops the idea of a reward/punishment system. I swear I'm not high right now. Just postulating. Don't put on the Nikes! DO NOT PUT ON THE NIKES!!! Attached File Kidding aside - the Body is the "Bottle" here on Earth & the Spirit is the "Contents" has been widely held by most religions. Proving that the soul goes onward after death has always been the kicker. Bigger_Hammer 
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: What's big enough to cause the destabilization of society? Let's consider the mentions of "soul containers" and "Earth is a prison planet". Let's also consider the basic premise of nearly every religion that has ever existed. Might as well toss in the current research into consciousness and while we're at it, the alien-human hybridization claims. To that end: What if the secret is that death of the human body is the only way to reach our true potential? What if WE are "NHI" contained in a sensor suite engineered for interacting with this specific dimension and once the vehicle wears out, we are released to where we really belong without the limitations of the physical filters? What if the "aliens" or "NHI" are other variants of sensor suites that are aware of the bigger picture and just visiting this dimension/realm/reality? If that was somehow proven, the suicide rate would be insane. Materialism along with the rat race would become irrelevant. Religions would reject it, even though it aligns closely with their core beliefs and only drops the idea of a reward/punishment system. I swear I'm not high right now. Just postulating. 1) People are terrified of the unknown, which is why it doesn't happen already (mass suicide I mean). 2) The truth about Reality has been expounded on so many times that it's almost not worth discussing. Here's the jist: The body is temporary (obviously), the product of the Ego (the sense of I and/or duality), which is synonymous with the Mind (the sum total of all differentiations, concepts (including dimensions, time, and space, and the power to perceive those products), all observed by the individual Soul, which is itself nothing more than the reflection of the Absolute (God, Consciousness, the "Self" etc, or whatever anyone wants to name it). There is nothing else except God. The error of the mind/Ego does not disappear with death, so people are "reborn" based on their merits, beliefs, and evolution. All evolution is the realization that everything is God and the Ego never existed in the first place. All de-evolution is the strengthening of mistaking both the existence of individuality (Ego/Mind), and the association of one's existence with it. This includes the grossest manifestation of this in the ideas that "I am my body" and "I am my things", to include beliefs. All suffering occurs because of this error. Suffering ceases when the error is realized and the Truth is experienced. All beings repeat this until they realize the Truth. Suicide doesn't help anything, especially if the suicide is based on unfulfilled desires, because you'll just keep coming back to fulfill those desires until they have been fulfilled, up to and until the only desire left is to stop having desires because there is a realization that desires only lead to misery and suffering. Suicide because of existential exhaustion isn't helpful either, because you will need to reach that point in another life (more suffering) and start investigating the nature of existence, yourself, and God again, so you might as well just start in this life, rather than ending it. Once a person is truly just sick of the world, the path back to God is quick. Even when people reach towards needing "meaning", most continue to look outside, which is just the mind. The more they seek, the more of the same they find. This includes religion. If people keep looking externally (like in science for example), they will keep finding more and more mind to infinity. It's only by looking internally at the basis for all existence- the mistaken concept of duality and/or Ego, that real answers start to appear. Of course, only the individual can look inside themself to begin investigating and resolving themselves. Depending on your inclination, this can seem spiritual or philosophical (God vs Truth- both the same in the end). So, that's the answer to your question. Here's a little more background which might help understand the first part: When enough earnest investigation is done by the individual (again, synonymous with Ego/mind), we realize that there is in fact no Ego. There is not even any creation. In fact, there was never even any individual ever to begin with, nor was their ever really ignorance. There was only ever the idea of Ego and Ignorance, which was always just God anyways...Obviously at this point we've reached beyond logic, and that doesn't make "sense," but it is the Truth. The only thing that exists is God/Absolute/Self, always and forever, infinite and self-standing. This Absolute that is everything is infinite, beyond the mind- beyond comprehension or sense perception (all qualities of the mind). If you can see it, hear it, smell it, know it, feel it, think of it, imagine it, touch it, taste it, etc. it's not really real. Just a dream of God, for a manner of speaking. Everything exists in God, though only apparently (nothing is actually Real, except God, we all, all existence, universes, etc. are only apparently real because of the mistake of the mind identifying them as real). |
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Originally Posted By sq40: The body is just a shell is a fairly common religious belief and fully jives with your postulation. It’s been the defacto belief of humanity for recorded history. I have been interested in ideas that consciousness, cognition, is a higher dimensional operation. I told a UAP skeptical arfcommer last night, that despite all that we know via science, we still can't explain how to we talk to ourselves in our heads (Consciousness). |
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| As far as earth being a prison planet it's actually not. The entire prison thing is us not being told how to escape the prison built in our own mind. Escape is pretty easy once the truth is known. I do have to wonder why now, at this exact time in history, we humans are finally being awakened by the truth that has been kept hidden. Well part of it at least. We are living the book of Revelations but it will not be a great flood or fire. The earth will go in two directions. Some of us will ascend to the new earth while others will be left behind in the old 3D earth. What either world will be like is the Quadrillion $ question in my mind. |
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83: I told a UAP skeptical arfcommer last night, that despite all that we know via science, we still can't explain how to we talk to ourselves in our heads (Consciousness). Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By sq40: The body is just a shell is a fairly common religious belief and fully jives with your postulation. It’s been the defacto belief of humanity for recorded history. I have been interested in ideas that consciousness, cognition, is a higher dimensional operation. I told a UAP skeptical arfcommer last night, that despite all that we know via science, we still can't explain how to we talk to ourselves in our heads (Consciousness). I often talk to myself about that very thing.  I wonder if it’s the right hemisphere and left “talking”. Or maybe it’s just pre+vocalization discipline. I don’t think I can speak out loud and hear my internal monologue at the same time. I do think all higher cognition happens in the internal monologue. I also think language and vocabulary can impact a persons ability, or at least way, of thinking and problem solving. |
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Originally Posted By sq40: I often talk to myself about that very thing. I wonder if it's the right hemisphere and left "talking". Or maybe it's just pre+vocalization discipline. I don't think I can speak out loud and hear my internal monologue at the same time. I do think all higher cognition happens in the internal monologue. I also think language and vocabulary can impact a persons ability, or at least way, of thinking and problem solving. Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By sq40: The body is just a shell is a fairly common religious belief and fully jives with your postulation. It's been the defacto belief of humanity for recorded history. I have been interested in ideas that consciousness, cognition, is a higher dimensional operation. I told a UAP skeptical arfcommer last night, that despite all that we know via science, we still can't explain how to we talk to ourselves in our heads (Consciousness). I often talk to myself about that very thing. I wonder if it's the right hemisphere and left "talking". Or maybe it's just pre+vocalization discipline. I don't think I can speak out loud and hear my internal monologue at the same time. I do think all higher cognition happens in the internal monologue. I also think language and vocabulary can impact a persons ability, or at least way, of thinking and problem solving. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: What I often wonder is how the internal processing/monologue worked before language emerged. I guess everything was just conceptual without an identifying label attached to every object in the world. Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By sq40: The body is just a shell is a fairly common religious belief and fully jives with your postulation. It's been the defacto belief of humanity for recorded history. I have been interested in ideas that consciousness, cognition, is a higher dimensional operation. I told a UAP skeptical arfcommer last night, that despite all that we know via science, we still can't explain how to we talk to ourselves in our heads (Consciousness). I often talk to myself about that very thing. I wonder if it's the right hemisphere and left "talking". Or maybe it's just pre+vocalization discipline. I don't think I can speak out loud and hear my internal monologue at the same time. I do think all higher cognition happens in the internal monologue. I also think language and vocabulary can impact a persons ability, or at least way, of thinking and problem solving. That is a very good question. Wow. What does a person do without language? I guess small children are in that boat too? Hmm. That is a wonderful thought experiment. |
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Originally Posted By sq40: I often talk to myself about that very thing. I wonder if it’s the right hemisphere and left “talking”. Or maybe it’s just pre+vocalization discipline. I don’t think I can speak out loud and hear my internal monologue at the same time. I do think all higher cognition happens in the internal monologue. I also think language and vocabulary can impact a persons ability, or at least way, of thinking and problem solving. Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By sq40: The body is just a shell is a fairly common religious belief and fully jives with your postulation. It’s been the defacto belief of humanity for recorded history. I have been interested in ideas that consciousness, cognition, is a higher dimensional operation. I told a UAP skeptical arfcommer last night, that despite all that we know via science, we still can't explain how to we talk to ourselves in our heads (Consciousness). I often talk to myself about that very thing. I wonder if it’s the right hemisphere and left “talking”. Or maybe it’s just pre+vocalization discipline. I don’t think I can speak out loud and hear my internal monologue at the same time. I do think all higher cognition happens in the internal monologue. I also think language and vocabulary can impact a persons ability, or at least way, of thinking and problem solving. Agreed - and to go a step further I think there are a lot of links to multilingualism and improved cognitive abilities such as problem-solving, memory, and executive function. I "learned" Spanish in school, but didn't keep up with it and have only thought in English for years. Over the past few months I've been learning German and Japanese and having to switch between very different language styles seems to have improved my overall mental sharpness. I find myself getting stuck on problem-solving less |
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Originally Posted By Pennsilfaanisch: Agreed - and to go a step further I think there are a lot of links to multilingualism and improved cognitive abilities such as problem-solving, memory, and executive function. I "learned" Spanish in school, but didn't keep up with it and have only thought in English for years. Over the past few months I've been learning German and Japanese and having to switch between very different language styles seems to have improved my overall mental sharpness. I find myself getting stuck on problem-solving less Originally Posted By Pennsilfaanisch: Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By sq40: The body is just a shell is a fairly common religious belief and fully jives with your postulation. It’s been the defacto belief of humanity for recorded history. I have been interested in ideas that consciousness, cognition, is a higher dimensional operation. I told a UAP skeptical arfcommer last night, that despite all that we know via science, we still can't explain how to we talk to ourselves in our heads (Consciousness). I often talk to myself about that very thing. I wonder if it’s the right hemisphere and left “talking”. Or maybe it’s just pre+vocalization discipline. I don’t think I can speak out loud and hear my internal monologue at the same time. I do think all higher cognition happens in the internal monologue. I also think language and vocabulary can impact a persons ability, or at least way, of thinking and problem solving. Agreed - and to go a step further I think there are a lot of links to multilingualism and improved cognitive abilities such as problem-solving, memory, and executive function. I "learned" Spanish in school, but didn't keep up with it and have only thought in English for years. Over the past few months I've been learning German and Japanese and having to switch between very different language styles seems to have improved my overall mental sharpness. I find myself getting stuck on problem-solving less Imagine a world without all the electronic communication devices we have now and not having the ability to speak out loud verbally. Is this where we a headed soon? ETA don't imagine this too hard! 
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Imagine a world without all the electronic communication devices we have now and not having the ability to speak out loud verbally. Is this where we a headed soon? ETA don't imagine this too hard! Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Originally Posted By Pennsilfaanisch: Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By sq40: The body is just a shell is a fairly common religious belief and fully jives with your postulation. It’s been the defacto belief of humanity for recorded history. I have been interested in ideas that consciousness, cognition, is a higher dimensional operation. I told a UAP skeptical arfcommer last night, that despite all that we know via science, we still can't explain how to we talk to ourselves in our heads (Consciousness). I often talk to myself about that very thing. I wonder if it’s the right hemisphere and left “talking”. Or maybe it’s just pre+vocalization discipline. I don’t think I can speak out loud and hear my internal monologue at the same time. I do think all higher cognition happens in the internal monologue. I also think language and vocabulary can impact a persons ability, or at least way, of thinking and problem solving. Agreed - and to go a step further I think there are a lot of links to multilingualism and improved cognitive abilities such as problem-solving, memory, and executive function. I "learned" Spanish in school, but didn't keep up with it and have only thought in English for years. Over the past few months I've been learning German and Japanese and having to switch between very different language styles seems to have improved my overall mental sharpness. I find myself getting stuck on problem-solving less Imagine a world without all the electronic communication devices we have now and not having the ability to speak out loud verbally. Is this where we a headed soon? ETA don't imagine this too hard! Right now, putting us back to 1985 would be a kick to the jaw. We'd have BBSs to post messages to, but that's at 110 baud pulging our telephone handsets into the acoustic cradle. Late night dialing of the good 2 or 3 boards in your area to see if you got a new private message or if there's a cool new thread on one of them, though threads this "deep" did not exist 40 years ago, we were kept in the dark and only got one or two sentence snippets form magazines which were, along with the rest of the media, steered by there .gov to keep things quiet. |
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Originally Posted By brass: Right now, putting us back to 1985 would be a kick to the jaw. We'd have BBSs to post messages to, but that's at 110 baud pulging our telephone handsets into the acoustic cradle. Late night dialing of the good 2 or 3 boards in your area to see if you got a new private message or if there's a cool new thread on one of them, though threads this "deep" did not exist 40 years ago, we were kept in the dark and only got one or two sentence snippets form magazines which were, along with the rest of the media, steered by there .gov to keep things quiet. Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Originally Posted By Pennsilfaanisch: Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By sq40: The body is just a shell is a fairly common religious belief and fully jives with your postulation. It’s been the defacto belief of humanity for recorded history. I have been interested in ideas that consciousness, cognition, is a higher dimensional operation. I told a UAP skeptical arfcommer last night, that despite all that we know via science, we still can't explain how to we talk to ourselves in our heads (Consciousness). I often talk to myself about that very thing. I wonder if it’s the right hemisphere and left “talking”. Or maybe it’s just pre+vocalization discipline. I don’t think I can speak out loud and hear my internal monologue at the same time. I do think all higher cognition happens in the internal monologue. I also think language and vocabulary can impact a persons ability, or at least way, of thinking and problem solving. Agreed - and to go a step further I think there are a lot of links to multilingualism and improved cognitive abilities such as problem-solving, memory, and executive function. I "learned" Spanish in school, but didn't keep up with it and have only thought in English for years. Over the past few months I've been learning German and Japanese and having to switch between very different language styles seems to have improved my overall mental sharpness. I find myself getting stuck on problem-solving less Imagine a world without all the electronic communication devices we have now and not having the ability to speak out loud verbally. Is this where we a headed soon? ETA don't imagine this too hard! Right now, putting us back to 1985 would be a kick to the jaw. We'd have BBSs to post messages to, but that's at 110 baud pulging our telephone handsets into the acoustic cradle. Late night dialing of the good 2 or 3 boards in your area to see if you got a new private message or if there's a cool new thread on one of them, though threads this "deep" did not exist 40 years ago, we were kept in the dark and only got one or two sentence snippets form magazines which were, along with the rest of the media, steered by there .gov to keep things quiet. We couldn't go back now. Copper has been depreciated in telco everywhere to the point that a lot of places cant get a POTS line. Thankfully we have fiber everywhere, which is immune to EM disruption. Granted, if the equipment is fried and factories too, it would be useless for a long time. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: What I often wonder is how the internal processing/monologue worked before language emerged. I guess everything was just conceptual without an identifying label attached to every object in the world. Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By sq40: The body is just a shell is a fairly common religious belief and fully jives with your postulation. It's been the defacto belief of humanity for recorded history. I have been interested in ideas that consciousness, cognition, is a higher dimensional operation. I told a UAP skeptical arfcommer last night, that despite all that we know via science, we still can't explain how to we talk to ourselves in our heads (Consciousness). I often talk to myself about that very thing. I wonder if it's the right hemisphere and left "talking". Or maybe it's just pre+vocalization discipline. I don't think I can speak out loud and hear my internal monologue at the same time. I do think all higher cognition happens in the internal monologue. I also think language and vocabulary can impact a persons ability, or at least way, of thinking and problem solving. ~30 mins in but the whole thing is a great listen. Irving Finkel is a scholar of ancient languages and a longtime curator at the British Museum, renowned for his expertise in Mesopotamian history and cuneiform writing. He specializes in reading and interpreting cuneiform inscriptions, including tablets from Sumerian, Akkadian, Babylonian, and Assyrian contexts. He became widely known for studying a tablet with a Mesopotamian flood story that predates the biblical Noah narrative, which he presented in his book "The Ark Before Noah" and in a documentary that involved building a circular ark based on the tablet's technical  Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations, Noah's Ark, and Flood Myths | Lex Fridman Podcast #487 0:00 - Introduction 0:58 - Origins of human language 7:04 - Cuneiform 14:17 - Controversial theory about Göbekli Tepe 25:29 - How to write and speak Cuneiform 30:48 - Primitive human language 32:31 - Development of writing systems 33:25 - Decipherment of Cuneiform 45:57 - Limits of language 50:56 - Art of translation 56:06 - Gods 1:01:31 - Ghosts 1:11:19 - Ancient flood stories 1:21:26 - Noah's Ark 1:32:49 - The Royal Game of Ur 1:45:48 - British Museum 1:53:13 - Evolution of human civilization |
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Originally Posted By anothermisanthrope: ~30 mins in but the whole thing is a great listen.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bBRVNkAfkQIf you don't have 2 hours+ to watch the whole thing in one go, it's broken up on YouTube into 10-15 minute chunks based on those timestamps. I'm currently listening to the one about the proposed stamp found at Gobekli Tepe. |
Pope Gregorius Billingsgate Callipygian Quimtickler, First of His Name
Chakravartin of the Feculent Multiversal Litterbox
Protodeacon of the Iniquitous
Gurkhan of the Illimitable Feline Hordes
Chakravartin of the Feculent Multiversal Litterbox
Protodeacon of the Iniquitous
Gurkhan of the Illimitable Feline Hordes
Not to derail too much, but to lighten things up a bit, one of my favorite commercials (Volkswagen leaked proposals are second inline) German Coastguard - We are Sinking (English subtitles) HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C-vYY3SBDE |
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By sq40: We couldn't go back now. Copper has been depreciated in telco everywhere to the point that a lot of places cant get a POTS line. Thankfully we have fiber everywhere, which is immune to EM disruption. Granted, if the equipment is fried and factories too, it would be useless for a long time. True, however , the devices on either end are extremely vulnerable to EM and power failure. The fiber network would be reduced to a telegraph type network using Morse Code. |
 The Brotherhood's Ancient Law Of "I AM": What You Say Traps You |
 Where Does Your MIND Actually Exist? Leonard Susskind |
Remember the guy in the Men in Black 2 movie about different probabilities happening? 7 Proofs You Have Already Died in Another Timeline |