Posted: 9/24/2026 7:51:54 PM EDT
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Anyone else get one of these? https://www.apexgunparts.com/hungarian-ak-63f-fixed-stock-parts-kit-w-populated-barrel-assembly-16-25-matching-7-62x39-good.html https://centerfiresystems.com/collections/parts-kits/products/hungarian-ak63f-fixed-stock-parts-kit-with-populated-barrel-7-62x39-matching-serial-numbers They also have non-matching S/N kits for just under $500. My matching kit arrived from CFS. It's a bit more worn on the exterior than I'd prefer but the bore looks new and the bolt shows minimal wear.  "2CJAA" Iraqi markings.  I feel like I overpaid a bit at $600 but the last AK parts kit I bought was an unissued Polish underfolder for $250 around 20 years ago. I had to get it on since populated barrel kits are back. Now - who makes the best AK receivers these days? Is Nodak-Spud still making them? |
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Originally Posted By _Matt_: Barrel pressed in trunion already Originally Posted By _Matt_: Originally Posted By Engineer5: What does "populated" barrel assembly mean? Barrel pressed in trunion already Thanks, so this is an after market barrel then? |
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Originally Posted By Engineer5: Thanks, so this is an after market barrel then? Originally Posted By Engineer5: Originally Posted By _Matt_: Originally Posted By Engineer5: What does "populated" barrel assembly mean? Barrel pressed in trunion already Thanks, so this is an after market barrel then? It's the original Hungarian barrel. The barrel ban is dead. |
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Originally Posted By Clockwork138: It's the original Hungarian barrel. The barrel ban is dead. Originally Posted By Clockwork138: Originally Posted By Engineer5: Originally Posted By _Matt_: Originally Posted By Engineer5: What does "populated" barrel assembly mean? Barrel pressed in trunion already Thanks, so this is an after market barrel then? It's the original Hungarian barrel. The barrel ban is dead. Nice. |
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Originally Posted By Craigan: If that rifle was owned by the Iraqi army at any point it's in really good condition. And what you paid for an original barrel kit is less than what they were going for just a few years ago. That's a neat one. Barreled kits will probably get cheaper as more come in the further we get away from the barrel reclassification. I saw some people were getting nearly like-new kits with these and couldn't resist getting a kit with known lineage, though. This kit is like a police trade-in - beat and worn on the outside but nearly new on the inside. |
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Originally Posted By CannonCockerPop: NoDak Spud closed several years ago. Harlan retired and Mike is with H&K now. Childers Guns or Recreator Blanks for a good selection of receivers Mike doesn't hate us. He is with H&R. |
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Originally Posted By Engineer5: Nice. Originally Posted By Engineer5: Originally Posted By Clockwork138: Originally Posted By Engineer5: Originally Posted By _Matt_: Originally Posted By Engineer5: What does "populated" barrel assembly mean? Barrel pressed in trunion already Thanks, so this is an after market barrel then? It's the original Hungarian barrel. The barrel ban is dead. Nice. Yeah. Haven't bought a kit since the barrels were banned. It's great to not have to deal with US-made barrels or headspacing again. |
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I have a shit load of receivers and three parts kits without barrels. I ruined my first barrel/trunnion trying to drill the barrel pin. Any cheap Romanian kits with barrels? I've been tempted to torch cut my WASR10 turn it into a proper AKM and serve as a test run, but would rather get a real parts kit. |
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Originally Posted By Couch-Commando: I have a shit load of receivers and three parts kits without barrels. I ruined my first barrel/trunnion trying to drill the barrel pin. Any cheap Romanian kits with barrels? I've been tempted to torch cut my WASR10 turn it into a proper AKM and serve as a test run, but would rather get a real parts kit. |
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Very cool OP. I'd FO if I didn't already have a couple of Hungarian and Romanian parts kits stored away. |
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Originally Posted By saigamanTX: Yes. Apex gun parts has them for 500 or so. Originally Posted By saigamanTX: Originally Posted By Couch-Commando: I have a shit load of receivers and three parts kits without barrels. I ruined my first barrel/trunnion trying to drill the barrel pin. Any cheap Romanian kits with barrels? I've been tempted to torch cut my WASR10 turn it into a proper AKM and serve as a test run, but would rather get a real parts kit. Which is about as cheap as you’re going to get these days. I can see them eventually settling for ~$400. The days of $99 complete kits are long gone. 
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Originally Posted By mgwantob: I had one of these in Iraq in 2010-2011. I found it hidden in an old building we were re-opening on Al Asad. They are very nice AKs. Order you a kit. Maybe you’ll get lucky. lol I’ve had Polish, Hungarian, Yugo, and Romanian kits. Quality/fit and finish in that order. Of course, the Yugos were well used (or had blood pitting), so that detracted a bit. |
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Originally Posted By Clockwork138: Anyone else get one of these? https://www.apexgunparts.com/hungarian-ak-63f-fixed-stock-parts-kit-w-populated-barrel-assembly-16-25-matching-7-62x39-good.html https://centerfiresystems.com/collections/parts-kits/products/hungarian-ak63f-fixed-stock-parts-kit-with-populated-barrel-7-62x39-matching-serial-numbers They also have non-matching S/N kits for just under $500. My matching kit arrived from CFS. It's a bit more worn on the exterior than I'd prefer but the bore looks new and the bolt shows minimal wear. https://i.imgur.com/uuGBc9j.png "CJ2AA" Iraqi markings. https://i.imgur.com/37oKc2p.png I feel like I overpaid a bit at $600 but the last AK parts kit I bought was an unissued Polish underfolder for $250 around 20 years ago. I had to get it on since populated barrel kits are back. Now - who makes the best AK receivers these days? Is Nodak-Spud still making them? That’s awesome. I got several Hungarian kits years ago for $125 each at the time. They were all sent away and built into rifles. My parents are from Hungary and so I had to have them.  But your kit has an even more unique and historical significance! |
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Its $600 but its a legit Iraq war relic - I would get one, enjoy it. For a receiver I would go to Recreator and have it marked with the same SN as the trunion like an original. https://recreatormfg.com/product/hungarian-feg-forty-7-receiver-7-62x39/ |
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Originally Posted By Couch-Commando: I have a shit load of receivers and three parts kits without barrels. I ruined my first barrel/trunnion trying to drill the barrel pin. Any cheap Romanian kits with barrels? I've been tempted to torch cut my WASR10 turn it into a proper AKM and serve as a test run, but would rather get a real parts kit. An air hammer is the best tool I've found for barrel pins |
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Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter: Trump needs to shut down the destruction of imported firearms. Those kits have to be demilled, as they have the fun hole in them. Saigas almost didn’t make the cut years ago because they had the punch mark on the left side(the funky looking y). Workaround for that was milling the sear trip off the carrier. |
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Originally Posted By Lone_Eagle: Those kits have to be demilled, as they have the fun hole in them. Saigas almost didn’t make the cut years ago because they had the punch mark on the left side(the funky looking y). Workaround for that was milling the sear trip off the carrier. Originally Posted By Lone_Eagle: Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter: Trump needs to shut down the destruction of imported firearms. Those kits have to be demilled, as they have the fun hole in them. Saigas almost didn’t make the cut years ago because they had the punch mark on the left side(the funky looking y). Workaround for that was milling the sear trip off the carrier. There'd also be the matter of 922r unless he also does away with the "sporting purposes" BS. |
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Originally Posted By DFARM: An air hammer is the best tool I've found for barrel pins Originally Posted By DFARM: Originally Posted By Couch-Commando: I have a shit load of receivers and three parts kits without barrels. I ruined my first barrel/trunnion trying to drill the barrel pin. Any cheap Romanian kits with barrels? I've been tempted to torch cut my WASR10 turn it into a proper AKM and serve as a test run, but would rather get a real parts kit. An air hammer is the best tool I've found for barrel pins Yeah, some Romanians need it. A 4lb minisledge, a punch, and a UHMW backing block got the job done for all of my other kits. |
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Originally Posted By DFARM: I was surprised when I saw how much the dongs were selling for. I bought my last G kits for like $79. Lol I sold a dong a few years ago for as much as I bought the entire kit for.  I ended up selling all of my kits and kit builds at a great profit during the '10s. I regret not keeping a few. One of the reasons I had to buy this kit. |
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Originally Posted By Clockwork138: I sold a dong a few years ago for as much as I bought the entire kit for. I ended up selling all of my kits and kit builds at a great profit during the '10s. I regret not keeping a few. One of the reasons I had to buy this kit. I still have a G kit to build, and I'm kit-bashing a screw built amd-65 with a triangle folder. My step-dad was my kit building buddy and he's passed away now, so I'll probably inherit the couple of kits he still has. Iirc, there's another amd-65 and an underfolder of some flavor. It'll be cool to build the amd-65 as it was intended since the whole form 1 thing has happened. |
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Originally Posted By Clockwork138: The days when you could put one together for less than $300 or even less if you ignored 922r. https://i.imgur.com/3HQqvjh.jpg I thought that was one of mine for a sec. Polish and a G kit 
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Originally Posted By Tango: I thought that was one of mine for a sec. Polish and a G kit https://i.imgur.com/6kLco1T.jpg Nice builds! I had a PMKMS, too. lol. I only bought one because I thought $250 for a kit was a lot back then - despite it being in unissued condition and included bayonet, two mags, cleaning kit, three-cell mag pouch, and sling. Dumbass 19-year-old me. Of the Polish, Hungarian, Romanian, and Yugo kits I had, the Polish PMKMS was easily the best quality. 
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Originally Posted By DFARM: I still have a G kit to build, and I'm kit-bashing a screw built amd-65 with a triangle folder. My step-dad was my kit building buddy and he's passed away now, so I'll probably inherit the couple of kits he still has. Iirc, there's another amd-65 and an underfolder of some flavor. It'll be cool to build the amd-65 as it was intended since the whole form 1 thing has happened. Originally Posted By DFARM: Originally Posted By Clockwork138: I sold a dong a few years ago for as much as I bought the entire kit for. I ended up selling all of my kits and kit builds at a great profit during the '10s. I regret not keeping a few. One of the reasons I had to buy this kit. I still have a G kit to build, and I'm kit-bashing a screw built amd-65 with a triangle folder. My step-dad was my kit building buddy and he's passed away now, so I'll probably inherit the couple of kits he still has. Iirc, there's another amd-65 and an underfolder of some flavor. It'll be cool to build the amd-65 as it was intended since the whole form 1 thing has happened. Man. Screw builds. I forgot all about those even though my first build was a Romanian screw build. I later rebuilt it with rivets out of concern screws were too weak to secure a barrel trunnion. Then along came the SCAR. Condolences on your step-dad's passing. Glad you had that experience with him and can carry on with his kits. |
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Originally Posted By cherenkov: Its $600 but its a legit Iraq war relic - I would get one, enjoy it. For a receiver I would go to Recreator and have it marked with the same SN as the trunion like an original. https://recreatormfg.com/product/hungarian-feg-forty-7-receiver-7-62x39/ those look 80% |
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Originally Posted By Clockwork138: Yeah, some Romanians need it. A 4lb minisledge, a punch, and a UHMW backing block got the job done for all of my other kits. Next day just use a harbor freight 12 ton hydraulic press. Barrel pin wont get deformed that way. I built all of the AKs except the one Romy RPK. Good old days where kits were $99.  |
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Originally Posted By FreefallRet: No just spray with kroil and place in the freezer over night. Next day just use a harbor freight 12 ton hydraulic press. Barrel pin wont get deformed that way. I built all of the AKs except the one Romy RPK. Good old days where kits were $99. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/20856/0C875484-D96E-4AFF-9212-CD7DB38E00DA-3833045.jpg I never had a good way to hold the trunion in the press for the barrel pins |
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Originally Posted By Clockwork138: Man. Screw builds. I forgot all about those even though my first build was a Romanian screw build. I later rebuilt it with rivets out of concern screws were too weak to secure a barrel trunnion. Then along came the SCAR. Condolences on your step-dad's passing. Glad you had that experience with him and can carry on with his kits. I was there for all of it. $139 RPK kits back in the day. I sold them at gun shows. Plenty of Tapco stuff he sold off cheap to move it fast. Complete RPK furniture new in the wrap for $19.99 Remember those AK74 mag packs? 4 mags in a raindrop camo pouch. Some were new with new cleaning kits and stripper clips and spoon. Some were used and some had no cleaning kits. Remember the price? $16  I took them to gun shows and sold them $10 a mag and kept the new ones. That pic of mine above the polish underfolder I think the kit was $300 it was mint |
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Originally Posted By Tango: I was there for all of it. $139 RPK kits back in the day. I sold them at gun shows. Plenty of Tapco stuff he sold off cheap to move it fast. Complete RPK furniture new in the wrap for $19.99 Remember those AK74 mag packs? 4 mags in a raindrop camo pouch. Some were new with new cleaning kits and stripper clips and spoon. Some were used and some had no cleaning kits. Remember the price? $16 I took them to gun shows and sold them $10 a mag and kept the new ones. That pic of mine above the polish underfolder I think the kit was $300 it was mint Not buying rpd and pkm kits is a big regret of mine. I remember the sportsmans guide mag deals, they were like 6 random mags for $30 or something like that. Some people got cool stuff in those, I mostly got yugo mags |
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Originally Posted By DFARM: I never had a good way to hold the trunion in the press for the barrel pins  Pressing out Barrel Pin Build your own AK AK47 |
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Originally Posted By FreefallRet: I made my own but midway and AK builder sells a kit.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRB2M9AdBL4They didn't back in the day. Lol |
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Originally Posted By DFARM: Not buying rpd and pkm kits is a big regret of mine. I remember the sportsmans guide mag deals, they were like 6 random mags for $30 or something like that. Some people got cool stuff in those, I mostly got yugo mags They were initially under $20 for six. Then they started going up in price after they’d sell out quickly. I didn’t get anything interesting. Always wanted one of the Bosnian fleur de lis mags some were getting out of them. Those go for a couple hundred now. |
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Originally Posted By Clockwork138: They were initially under $20 for six. Then they started going up in price after they’d sell out quickly. I didn’t get anything interesting. Always wanted one of the Bosnian fleur de lis mags some were getting out of them. Those go for a couple hundred now. My uncle got one and didn't even realize it was different until I pointed it out. Lol |
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