Posted: 12/21/2020 2:42:44 PM EDT
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So is the plate just a bunch of progressively smaller holes? Are they tapered, or do they just cut the outside of the wire off? I would think that (based on the name alone) you would want to draw(which I interpret as "smash" ) down the wire so you don't have a ton of waste but I can't see how that would work just pulling it through a hole. Thanks for sharing your projects! |
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Yes, draw plate holes are tapered to smash the wire down. The best plates have carbide holes or, in the old days, sapphire lined holes. The insides of the holes are polished on good plates making drawing easier. The cheap Chinese plates...anything goes with that crap. You file or sand the end of the wire into a taper so the end of the wire can fit through the hole to be grabbed by the tongs. Then start cranking and the winch does all the work. Edit: That little yellow/brown block above the tongs in the last pic is beeswax used to lube the wire before drawing. |
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Originally Posted By DFARM: So is the plate just a bunch of progressively smaller holes? Are they tapered, or do they just cut the outside of the wire off? I would think that (based on the name alone) you would want to draw(which I interpret as "smash" ) down the wire so you don't have a ton of waste but I can't see how that would work just pulling it through a hole. Thanks for sharing your projects! When you pull on wire it stretches longer and the diameter shrinks smaller. Done through a series of progressively smaller holes (note all the holes in the plate the wire is passing through) it's a fairly simple process as long as the material is ductile and remains that way. Just don't try to go too much in 1 step, the wire on the tension side has to be able to hold up to the force required to pull it through the hole in the plate. Changing the diameter in one big step would require a lot of force and the wire on the tension side would be coming out much smaller (thus able to hold less tension). |
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That's interesting. I guess it makes sense. When you stretch things they get thinner. I just never really thought about using it to shape metal. I expected rollers or something to reduce the diameter. Thanks for the explanation. |
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Originally Posted By DFARM: That's interesting. I guess it makes sense. When you stretch things they get thinner. I just never really thought about using it to shape metal. I expected rollers or something to reduce the diameter. Thanks for the explanation. You can run it through a rolling mill and get the same effect. However, mills won't make good round wire, square or half round is no problem in a mill. |
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I used to draw gold wire when I work for a jewelry manufacturer. I could hand draw down to bout .005" With 18K or better gold. 14K-10K was very hard to get that fine unless I tempered as the wire entered the die. How Fine can you draw silver down? Never did any silver. EBR |
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You can draw down as far as you want, thinner than a hair for sure. The problem is annealing and tapering the end to fit through the plate. In my experience, the thinner the wire gets the more important frequent annealing becomes. Soft metals like gold, silver, brass and copper can be drawn fairly easily by hand once they get down around 10-12 gauge. |





) down the wire so you don't have a ton of waste but I can't see how that would work just pulling it through a hole.