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3/10/2024 12:15:39 PM EDT
[#1]
By my lake place in North Central Minnesota you've got Thumper Pond in Ottertail and Perham Lakeside with 27 holes for "real" golf, then Frazee has not only the world's largest turkey, but a great 9 home course for when my wife and son want to golf.
3/10/2024 12:19:58 PM EDT
[#2]
Had a set of those years ago handed down by grandpa...too bad they don't have wooden shafts.
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
3/10/2024 12:21:05 PM EDT
[#3]
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Shooting ranges are a waste of a good RC flying field.
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takes some skill to sit off in the weeds and pick off golf balls on the fairway with your .17 HMR
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3/10/2024 3:56:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sean124:


IMO, the best course for the money in the Phoenix area is Aguila. Great layout, 7000 yards from the tips, and it’s always in good shape. There are obviously nicer courses here, but you’ll pay for it.

Falcon Dunes at Luke AFB is good if you’re current/former military or first responder.
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Originally Posted By Arfless:
In the spirit of keeping this thread going, how about posting hidden gems from our AO? I'm in SE/Mid MI so I'll suggest Willow Wood in Portland MI. Great layout, not to pricy, with great greens in the summer.

Timber Trace in Pinckney. Big property, lots of room to miss it. Under new ownership and they're doing some fantastic improvements.

Huntmore in Brighton/Hartland area. Great condition typically. Target golf. Fun course with an excellent practice facility. Bring plenty of balls if you spray it.

Washtenaw Golf club in Ypsilanti. Soft spot for this one as I grew up on the 11th hole. It was private for 100 years but has been open for public play for a while now. Typically in country club shape. Recently they removed a bunch of big trees to open it up. Some made sense, others didn't, but it's more playable for the masses now.

I"ll post some fun ones from our travels in a bit.


IMO, the best course for the money in the Phoenix area is Aguila. Great layout, 7000 yards from the tips, and it’s always in good shape. There are obviously nicer courses here, but you’ll pay for it.

Falcon Dunes at Luke AFB is good if you’re current/former military or first responder.


Got to play Falcon once and it was outstanding !
Aguila has been on my list for some time, hopefully we can hit it this coming spring or summer but we don’t get up to Phoenix that often anymore.
One of my favorites in Tucson is Sewailo at casino del sol, great track.
Put The Spurs to Her Chuck !
3/10/2024 4:27:55 PM EDT
[#5]
Any course you can play in the winter is awesome IMO.  

3/10/2024 4:36:20 PM EDT
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That’s every course in Arizona.
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3/10/2024 4:37:30 PM EDT
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Any course you can play in the winter is awesome IMO.  

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Golf in the “winter” here is annoying. Expensive and hard to get a tee time because everyone else seems to hate where they live.
3/10/2024 6:45:20 PM EDT
[#8]
This is winter golf here.  

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At least there's overhead heaters and Top Tracer
3/10/2024 9:37:05 PM EDT
[#9]
I turned 50 in January.  We had a wonderful time at PGA Riviera Maya.  Attached File
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3/10/2024 9:49:37 PM EDT
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I turned 50 in January.  We had a wonderful time at PGA Riviera Maya.  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/211389/1000006393_jpg-3155879.JPG
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That pic would be so much better if you were wearing jorts
3/10/2024 9:54:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Logcutter:


That pic would be so much better if you were wearing jorts
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Lol... right you are
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3/10/2024 10:07:10 PM EDT
[#12]
Golf forum please .
3/11/2024 10:44:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By cranberry1:
Golf forum please .
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Just the daily bump for the above request

What does everyone think of the golf roll back rule?

Do I need to start hoarding pre ban rock balls?  
3/11/2024 10:52:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigPolska:


Just the daily bump for the above request

What does everyone think of the golf roll back rule?

Do I need to start hoarding pre ban rock balls?  
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The Ball roll back won't affect us average Joe's.  Even if you have PGA tour speed, you won't have the PGA strike averages and the lost distance won't matter in relation to the spin from a slight mishit your adding to the ball.

Plus slower swing speeds shouldn't be playing Tour balls. They generally hinder your performance since you don't have the speed to compress then properly.  So ball roll back means nothing to us. IMO.

We need a Golf Forum...
3/11/2024 11:07:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigPolska:


Just the daily bump for the above request

What does everyone think of the golf roll back rule?

Do I need to start hoarding pre ban rock balls?  
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Originally Posted By BigPolska:
Originally Posted By cranberry1:
Golf forum please .


Just the daily bump for the above request

What does everyone think of the golf roll back rule?

Do I need to start hoarding pre ban rock balls?  


They do need one.  Will TPTB get pissy if everyone just co-opts one of the fora that hasn't had traffic since November?

The ball rollback is hockey-helmet wearing idiotic.  Every major stat-collecting database for amateur golf says distance has basically stayed flat, and not very far at that.

There might be a distance problem in golf, but if there is, it's restricted to PGA Tour quality players.  Which are like the top, well...there's how many touring golfers, counting KFT, LIV, the Euros, Asia tour, and a couple of other places?  Maybe 10,000 people total?  I'm likely overstating it.  R&A says there are around 40 million worldwide, non-US golfers.  It's around 25 million in the US.  Likely understating that number.  So 65 million worldwide, and 10k might have a problem.  Or 1 in 6500.

Where else do we screw over 99.96% of participants, to accommodate the rest?  

The real problem is with about 50-100 prestigious clubs around the world, with St. Andrews and Augusta leading the way, whose leadership is getting tired of both their courses getting run over by pros and the costs they incur to buy land to add length.  And those courses have the ears of golf's regulatory bodies, because it's the same fucking guys sitting on both.  "Stewards of the game".  What a load of bullshit.

The pisser is that we know how to keep pros in check, and we saw this at Arnie's Place yesterday:  grow the rough, speed up the greens, narrow the fairways, (and while we're at it, soften them to something less than concrete, so 60 yards of roll on a drive isn't a thing anymore), and let the guys play.  If they want to bomb, they'd better be accurate.  The Tour hates that because they like televising lots of birdies, and marketing guys who drive it 350+.  The players hate those kinds of conditions, because they often look like ass when trying to, e.g. advance a ball out of heavy rough.  It's mentally challenging to play those kinds of courses.
And Augusta will never do that as far as the fairways and rough goes.

Anyway, that's why the rollback's a bad idea, argued often by the USGA and R&A in bad faith.
3/11/2024 11:20:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Wineraner:


They do need one.  Will TPTB get pissy if everyone just co-opts one of the fora that hasn't had traffic since November?

The ball rollback is hockey-helmet wearing idiotic.  Every major stat-collecting database for amateur golf says distance has basically stayed flat, and not very far at that.

There might be a distance problem in golf, but if there is, it's restricted to PGA Tour quality players.  Which are like the top, well...there's how many touring golfers, counting KFT, LIV, the Euros, Asia tour, and a couple of other places?  Maybe 10,000 people total?  I'm likely overstating it.  R&A says there are around 40 million worldwide, non-US golfers.  It's around 25 million in the US.  Likely understating that number.  So 65 million worldwide, and 10k might have a problem.  Or 1 in 6500.

Where else do we screw over 99.96% of participants, to accommodate the rest?  

The real problem is with about 50-100 prestigious clubs around the world, with St. Andrews and Augusta leading the way, whose leadership is getting tired of both their courses getting run over by pros and the costs they incur to buy land to add length.  And those courses have the ears of golf's regulatory bodies, because it's the same fucking guys sitting on both.  "Stewards of the game".  What a load of bullshit.

The pisser is that we know how to keep pros in check, and we saw this at Arnie's Place yesterday:  grow the rough, speed up the greens, narrow the fairways, (and while we're at it, soften them to something less than concrete, so 60 yards of roll on a drive isn't a thing anymore), and let the guys play.  If they want to bomb, they'd better be accurate.  The Tour hates that because they like televising lots of birdies, and marketing guys who drive it 350+.  The players hate those kinds of conditions, because they often look like ass when trying to, e.g. advance a ball out of heavy rough.  It's mentally challenging to play those kinds of courses.
And Augusta will never do that as far as the fairways and rough goes.

Anyway, that's why the rollback's a bad idea, argued often by the USGA and R&A in bad faith.
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Originally Posted By Wineraner:
Originally Posted By BigPolska:
Originally Posted By cranberry1:
Golf forum please .


Just the daily bump for the above request

What does everyone think of the golf roll back rule?

Do I need to start hoarding pre ban rock balls?  


They do need one.  Will TPTB get pissy if everyone just co-opts one of the fora that hasn't had traffic since November?

The ball rollback is hockey-helmet wearing idiotic.  Every major stat-collecting database for amateur golf says distance has basically stayed flat, and not very far at that.

There might be a distance problem in golf, but if there is, it's restricted to PGA Tour quality players.  Which are like the top, well...there's how many touring golfers, counting KFT, LIV, the Euros, Asia tour, and a couple of other places?  Maybe 10,000 people total?  I'm likely overstating it.  R&A says there are around 40 million worldwide, non-US golfers.  It's around 25 million in the US.  Likely understating that number.  So 65 million worldwide, and 10k might have a problem.  Or 1 in 6500.

Where else do we screw over 99.96% of participants, to accommodate the rest?  

The real problem is with about 50-100 prestigious clubs around the world, with St. Andrews and Augusta leading the way, whose leadership is getting tired of both their courses getting run over by pros and the costs they incur to buy land to add length.  And those courses have the ears of golf's regulatory bodies, because it's the same fucking guys sitting on both.  "Stewards of the game".  What a load of bullshit.

The pisser is that we know how to keep pros in check, and we saw this at Arnie's Place yesterday:  grow the rough, speed up the greens, narrow the fairways, (and while we're at it, soften them to something less than concrete, so 60 yards of roll on a drive isn't a thing anymore), and let the guys play.  If they want to bomb, they'd better be accurate.  The Tour hates that because they like televising lots of birdies, and marketing guys who drive it 350+.  The players hate those kinds of conditions, because they often look like ass when trying to, e.g. advance a ball out of heavy rough.  It's mentally challenging to play those kinds of courses.
And Augusta will never do that as far as the fairways and rough goes.

Anyway, that's why the rollback's a bad idea, argued often by the USGA and R&A in bad faith.


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3/11/2024 11:56:52 AM EDT
[#17]
I think they should’ve just left it alone with the current rules on driver faces and balls, but I also don’t really care that they changed it for everyone.

The worst option to me was bifurcation so I’m just glad it didn’t go there.

3/11/2024 12:34:55 PM EDT
[#18]
I don't GAS, my buddies and I will still play the same or similar gear, and give each other tons of shit on the course.

Hitting shorter drives or longer clubs into greens won't change anything at all in regards to my enjoyment of the game.
3/11/2024 1:33:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Logcutter:
I don't GAS, my buddies and I will still play the same or similar gear, and give each other tons of shit on the course.

Hitting shorter drives or longer clubs into greens won't change anything at all in regards to my enjoyment of the game.
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I just think it’s funny when guys who can’t carry a driver 225 and play random balls they find in the bushes think they’ll notice any real difference.

This affects me more than 99% of other players and like I said, I just don’t really care.
3/11/2024 3:23:44 PM EDT
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I just think it’s funny when guys who can’t carry a driver 225 and play random balls they find in the bushes think they’ll notice any real difference.

This affects me more than 99% of other players and like I said, I just don’t really care.
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Originally Posted By Sean124:
Originally Posted By Logcutter:
I don't GAS, my buddies and I will still play the same or similar gear, and give each other tons of shit on the course.

Hitting shorter drives or longer clubs into greens won't change anything at all in regards to my enjoyment of the game.


I just think it’s funny when guys who can’t carry a driver 225 and play random balls they find in the bushes think they’ll notice any real difference.

This affects me more than 99% of other players and like I said, I just don’t really care.



That’s why I love lostgolfballs.com. When I need to replace my lost balls, I’m paying roughly $1 each instead of $4 each new.
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3/11/2024 3:25:46 PM EDT
[#21]
Speaking of balls, one of my guys gifted me this the other day.
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3/11/2024 4:45:16 PM EDT
[#22]
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Originally Posted By Sean124:


I just think it’s funny when guys who can’t carry a driver 225 and play random balls they find in the bushes think they’ll notice any real difference.

This affects me more than 99% of other players and like I said, I just don’t really care.
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Originally Posted By Sean124:
Originally Posted By Logcutter:
I don't GAS, my buddies and I will still play the same or similar gear, and give each other tons of shit on the course.

Hitting shorter drives or longer clubs into greens won't change anything at all in regards to my enjoyment of the game.


I just think it’s funny when guys who can’t carry a driver 225 and play random balls they find in the bushes think they’ll notice any real difference.

This affects me more than 99% of other players and like I said, I just don’t really care.



Rolling back the ball effects my game about the same as paying me a nickle less an hour.

The courses I play are typically 6600 to 7000 yards. I end up with a bunch of approach shots in the 60 to 85 yard range.

Full shots from 100-120 would probably be better for scoring. It's just hard to keep the driver out of my hands when they're so forgiving.

There's always another set of tees up ahead for when I  loose more distance.
10,000 years ago there was a 2 mile thick glacier parked right here and not 1 SUV to melt it.
3/11/2024 4:56:48 PM EDT
[#23]
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Speaking of balls, one of my guys gifted me this the other day. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/31717/IMG_9451-3156354.jpg
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That's a keeper Delta!
10,000 years ago there was a 2 mile thick glacier parked right here and not 1 SUV to melt it.
3/11/2024 5:48:50 PM EDT
[#24]
Since we don't have a forum yet, I'll post some favorite golf course accessories.

Cart girls love thisAttached File
10,000 years ago there was a 2 mile thick glacier parked right here and not 1 SUV to melt it.
3/11/2024 5:53:10 PM EDT
[#25]
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10,000 years ago there was a 2 mile thick glacier parked right here and not 1 SUV to melt it.
3/11/2024 5:55:09 PM EDT
[#26]
Here to vote for a golf forum.
3/11/2024 6:00:04 PM EDT
[#27]
golf forum please .
3/11/2024 6:26:06 PM EDT
[#28]
Do we have to buy a golf course and name it Arfcom Acres to get a forum?
10,000 years ago there was a 2 mile thick glacier parked right here and not 1 SUV to melt it.
3/11/2024 6:26:53 PM EDT
[#29]
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One of the guys on my league team needs this.
3/11/2024 6:33:41 PM EDT
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My buddy got us those for our summer outing. It works great but my SO hates it
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3/11/2024 6:43:37 PM EDT
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My buddy got us those for our summer outing. It works great but my SO hates it
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She's entitled to her wrong opinion.

3/11/2024 6:55:39 PM EDT
[#32]
Yep. She play as well. We have fun together.

Should we post pics of golf adventures since we don't have a forum yet?
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3/11/2024 7:09:26 PM EDT
[#33]
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Should we post pics of golf adventures since we don't have a forum yet?
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I've got the hat on.
3/11/2024 7:12:10 PM EDT
[#34]
Outstanding?  Where is?
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3/11/2024 7:14:01 PM EDT
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Outstanding?  Where is?
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The Hideaway in the California desert.
3/11/2024 7:14:29 PM EDT
[#36]
I went out today for the second time outdoors this year. Was 74, but blowing about 20-25.  Shot 9 over par.... was pretty happy about that.

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3/11/2024 7:18:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sean124:


I just think it’s funny when guys who can’t carry a driver 225 and play random balls they find in the bushes think they’ll notice any real difference.

This affects me more than 99% of other players and like I said, I just don’t really care.
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Originally Posted By Sean124:
Originally Posted By Logcutter:
I don't GAS, my buddies and I will still play the same or similar gear, and give each other tons of shit on the course.

Hitting shorter drives or longer clubs into greens won't change anything at all in regards to my enjoyment of the game.


I just think it’s funny when guys who can’t carry a driver 225 and play random balls they find in the bushes think they’ll notice any real difference.

This affects me more than 99% of other players and like I said, I just don’t really care.



Hey, you don't know me!!

Range Balls : just as good



Another vote.  Golf forum plz
3/11/2024 7:18:53 PM EDT
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My buddy who gifted me the beer cart towel almost knocked me unconscious here.

He was excited about almost making a 1 and got his shoulder up under my chin.Attached File
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3/11/2024 7:20:19 PM EDT
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I went out today for the second time outdoors this year. Was 74, but blowing about 20-25.  Shot 9 over par.... was pretty happy about that.

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Good round in the fan. Well done!
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3/11/2024 7:25:02 PM EDT
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My buddy who gifted me the beer cart towel almost knocked me unconscious here.

He was excited about almost making a 1 and got his shoulder up under my chin.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/211389/1000006108_jpg-3156525.JPG
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Careful,   Lady Golf never gives up her dead
3/11/2024 7:32:05 PM EDT
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Careful,   Lady Golf never gives up her dead
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That was one year after the fact. Crisp and clean shot with 3 holes to play
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3/11/2024 7:34:37 PM EDT
[#42]
Wife unit asked me to pick up a starter set for her. Mission accomplished!

Group photo.



My kit



Kid’s kit with Mario Bro’s head cover.



Wife unit’s new kit on my push cart



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3/11/2024 7:38:22 PM EDT
[#43]
A forum would be nice.  Since we're sharing:

I went to an old place in Scotland for the 150th



That was my fourth and final major.  

Also went to LACC, but I had worked the year prior at the Country Club

3/11/2024 7:43:30 PM EDT
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I just think it’s funny when guys who can’t carry a driver 225 and play random balls they find in the bushes think they’ll notice any real difference.

This affects me more than 99% of other players and like I said, I just don’t really care.
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I only keep the Prov1's or TP5's and Logo Balls.


I have probably 100-125 logo golf balls. Sitting in the bottom drawer of one of my Snap On boxes....

I did find a few pristine Balata balls last year. There is a older guy that was a golf pro that has some pristine Hickory's and takes them out for a round once in a while.
3/11/2024 7:50:19 PM EDT
[#45]
I'd rather shoot golf balls than drive them.

3/11/2024 7:50:52 PM EDT
[#46]
Keep it up guys we'll eventually get our golf forum , I see Anthony Kim shot below par yesterday playing on the

LIV tour not bad for being away from the gamer 12yrs .
3/11/2024 7:50:52 PM EDT
[#47]
Golf forum vote here. @Mods
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3/11/2024 7:58:17 PM EDT
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Keep it up guys we'll eventually get our golf forum , I see Anthony Kim shot below par yesterday playing on the

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It was actually spectacular considering his performance last week...


A note to add. Many if these other sub forums literally don't get or get a reply or two a week/month......

Golf forum please.........
3/11/2024 8:01:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JDennis:


I only keep the Prov1's or TP5's and Logo Balls.


I have probably 100-125 logo golf balls. Sitting in the bottom drawer of one of my Snap On boxes....

I did find a few pristine Balata balls last year. There is a older guy that was a golf pro that has some pristine Hickory's and takes them out for a round once in a while.
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My dad had a 'new' sleeve of Titleist balatas. He let the young stud with a eta 185 mph ball speed swing at 1. 274 total. Granted... that wasn't a fresh ball
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3/11/2024 8:04:37 PM EDT
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My dad had a 'new' sleeve of Titleist balatas. He let the young stud with a 125mph ball speed swing at 1. 274 total. Granted... that wasn't a fresh ball
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Balata's are designed for older equipment. Someone swinging 125mph needs a chrome soft x LS or Pro V1 Left dash.... And a new fresh sleeve of Balatas are worth about 90-100 bucks....

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