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4/14/2023 10:13:00 PM EDT
From the start, they lied about the "pandemic of the unvaccinated"

In summer 2021, Democratic politicians and public health bureaucrats insisted only unvaccinated people were being hospitalized with or dying from Covid.

“This is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated,” Centers for Disease Control director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said on July 16, 2021.

“Unvaccinated Americans account for virtually all recent COVID-19 hospitalizations,” Jeff Zients, the White House COVID-19 response coordinator, told NPR the same day.

“It’s really an outbreak among the unvaccinated,” Dr. Anthony S. Fauci told CNN nine days later.

No wonder that on Sept. 9, President Biden announced, “This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated” as he promised “a new plan to require more Americans to be vaccinated.”

Require? Yep, require.

After all, it was a “pandemic of the unvaccinated.”



Only it wasn’t.

Not even then.

As early as June 2021 - less than six months after mRNA jabs began, less than five months after anyone could be considered fully vaccinated - a significant fraction of people hospitalized with Covid had been jabbed.

These days, of course, almost everyone hospitalized for Covid has been jabbed, though the figures are tough to come by. They’re buried deep on state health department Websites or in Excel files that must be downloaded and examined.

But they’re not impossible to find. The media simply refused to report them, because they would have raised questions about how well the shots worked.

From time to time, though, they pop up. A reader directed me to the state of Maryland’s Website. Unusually, Maryland openly reveals the actual number of hospitalizations by vaccination status - rather than a “rate ratio” that depends on several dubious assumptions.

The Maryland data could not be clearer. Nearly everyone who has been hospitalized for the last year has been vaccinated. The jabs have failed.

(Yellow wins, vaccines lose)



But that’s not the (most) interesting fact on this graph. Unless you’ve been asleep the last 18 months, you already knew the vaccines do not work about Omicron.

The most interesting fact is when they started to fail:



Yes, in July 2021, as the United States government told Americans that two mRNA shots provided near-total protection from Covid, more than one in five people hospitalized with Covid in Maryland was “fully vaccinated.” (In June the figure was 18 percent.)

Did public health officials like Dr. Fauci know the real numbers?

If not, they should have. After all, the National Institutes of Health - where Dr. Fauci worked for more than 40 years - is headquartered in Bethesda, Maryland.



Worse, Maryland’s 20 percent “fully vaccinated” hospitalization figure for July 2021 is a significant underestimate, since Maryland systematically misclassified vaccinated people as unvaccinated.

This is not a conspiracy theory. As Maryland itself explains:

Identification of post-vaccination infections requires that vaccination data be reported to the state immunization registry and… be matched to the SARS-CoV-2 test result. Therefore, post-vaccination infections may be undercounted.

This problem was not unique to Maryland, or 2021.

Every state had and has a similar issue. As Massachusetts put it last year: The number of cases in vaccinated people may be undercounted due to.... an inability to match records across systems.

Other countries were more careful, classifying people as unknown when their vaccination status was, well, unknown.



But then the United States has always reported Covid data in a way designed to make the mRNA shots look as good as possible. It only classifies people as “vaccinated” two weeks after their second mRNA shot.

This artifice hides the fact that real-world data shows people are MORE likely to contract Covid for weeks after the first shot. No other drug has its effectiveness counted only during the period when it is most likely to work.

Finally, states overestimated the total number of people who received vaccines and in some cases reported more than 100 percent vaccine coverage. This error might sound trivial. In fact, it is crucial, because many states hide the raw numbers for hospitalizations and deaths by vaccine status and instead provide “age-adjusted rate ratios.”

But those ratios depend on accurate estimates of the number of unjabbed people. If 300 vaccinated die of Covid out of 1 million, compared to 50 out of 50,000 unvaccinated, the vaccines will seem quite effective (even though more vaccinated people have died).

But if even 10 percent of the people reported as vaccinated actually are not, then real figures are 300 out of 900,000 vaccinated compared to 50 out of 150,000 unvaccinated. In that case, exactly the same proportion of vaccinated and unvaccinated people have died.

The numbers I’ve used are fictional, but the problem is real. And vaccine advocates, at least the smarter ones, are well aware of all these issues.

But they don’t care, because every one works the same way, to make the vaccines appear more effective.

They just figure you won’t invest the time or energy to understand all the ways they’re lying.

And that’s the most arrogant attitude of all.

4/14/2023 10:41:40 PM EDT
[#1]
They lied about everything.
4/14/2023 10:50:51 PM EDT
[#2]
Everyone with an average IQ know this was a scam. Some will admit it others continue to deflect and deceive.

My 2C, it was a test to see how far they could push the plebes, kill and control citizens and make a little money on the side.

Look at fentanyl they don't care about it at all. More died last year than all of Vietnam.

It's all 3rd world.  We have become just that a crap country. Only thing saving us today is the dollar.

The dollar is starting to erode when they accomplish that stick a fork in it, done.

4/15/2023 12:30:42 AM EDT
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10% truth, 90% lies
Blyat

Let's go Brandon

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4/15/2023 12:49:21 AM EDT
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They lied about everything.


10% truth, 90% lies

100% lies.
4/15/2023 12:52:55 AM EDT
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Everything has a start in the truth

Sure, getting Covid isn’t great. But it’s not the death sentence.

It’s very bad…for some folks. Obese, elderly, immunocompromised, etc.

Not the majority of the population
Blyat

Let's go Brandon

President of the Volodymyr Zelenskyy fan club
4/15/2023 12:58:24 AM EDT
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Everything has a start in the truth

Sure, getting Covid isn’t great. But it’s not the death sentence.

It’s very bad…for some folks. Obese, elderly, immunocompromised, etc.

Not the majority of the population
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Originally Posted By DepletedUranium:

100% lies.


Everything has a start in the truth

Sure, getting Covid isn’t great. But it’s not the death sentence.

It’s very bad…for some folks. Obese, elderly, immunocompromised, etc.

Not the majority of the population

You tell me what they said about COVID-19 and I'll rebut with truth. Pick a news release, question that was answered, statistic, or fact-check from October 2019 until the Present. Go.
4/15/2023 12:59:31 AM EDT
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Knew it was a scam and the numbers were bullshit early on.  Took a while to figure out how to fight back effectively but we did.

Fuck the con artists in suits and lab coats.  I feel bad for the good medical professionals left to pick up the pieces of a destroyed reputation.
4/15/2023 1:18:25 AM EDT
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Of course it was a lie, anything it took to get the vax numbers up. The cat’s out of the bag and guess who’s not pushing it anymore? Who’s looking like the geniuses right about now? Really we were just following common sense and sound knowledge of health and nutrition.

A damn apology would be nice, but that would never happen so I’ll settle for some Nuremberg 2 and public punishment.
4/15/2023 3:35:01 AM EDT
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My view from the beginning was,

I’m not getting an experimental, injection issued under an emergency order for a virus with a 99.7% survival rate.
Also there was no long term study,
I wanted to see the long term study not “be” the long term study, that is playing out in front of us right now.


"You have to understand most people are not ready to be unplugged, and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, they will fight to protect it." ~Morpheus
4/15/2023 6:42:12 AM EDT
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Sorry Joe. Still here, buddy. Still PureBlood.

Rockin’ it.
4/15/2023 10:28:58 AM EDT
[#11]
Not bragging but some here knew from the start and tried to say so while others here tried to demonize them. I truly truly hope we as a whole have learned to trust each other more and those who try and dictate us less. We are a community.
"Whoever makes himself great will be made humble. Whoever makes himself humble will be made great." -Jesus

"if it can be destroyed by the truth, it deserves to be destroyed by the truth" - Linus from Charlie Brown
4/15/2023 10:37:03 AM EDT
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Covid was exploited to steal the 2020 election.
4/15/2023 11:26:05 AM EDT
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One of many exploits.
4/15/2023 12:11:37 PM EDT
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membership courtesy of rtlm. thanks buddy!
4/16/2023 8:16:13 AM EDT
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It was a lie from the start;

Evidence: the US Gov paid for dangerous gain of function research in a facility under the control of an enemy state.

This is where the story begins. This is where every discussion should begin.
4/16/2023 12:16:46 PM EDT
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The ONLY  truth is there was a respiratory virus.  Everything else was a lie.
2021, the year America died of democratism.
4/16/2023 2:06:14 PM EDT
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Not bragging but some here knew from the start and tried to say so while others here tried to demonize them. I truly truly hope we as a whole have learned to trust each other more and those who try and dictate us less. We are a community.
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Yep, it took a bit to start collecting the evidence and putting the parts together but it was pretty obvious that something was amiss from the very start.  Sadly I think you are wrong about the second part of your statement- we are more divided than ever and it's only getting worse, not better.  I would bet money that the majority of people, despite what they may be saying, would react in almost exactly the same way if you dropped the same scenario again.  
4/16/2023 2:44:06 PM EDT
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Yep, it took a bit to start collecting the evidence and putting the parts together but it was pretty obvious that something was amiss from the very start.  Sadly I think you are wrong about the second part of your statement- we are more divided than ever and it's only getting worse, not better.  I would bet money that the majority of people, despite what they may be saying, would react in almost exactly the same way if you dropped the same scenario again.  
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This is where they win if so. The more we divide and the less we trust the media and the education system and our peers and everything we used to believe as a truth the closer we slip into a state of needing a savior and will buy whatever is sold to us. It is almost all corrupt....no blinders on me. I just see where this is headed which is the people not having any form of control. Not health, not finance and not even family.
"Whoever makes himself great will be made humble. Whoever makes himself humble will be made great." -Jesus

"if it can be destroyed by the truth, it deserves to be destroyed by the truth" - Linus from Charlie Brown
4/16/2023 3:45:17 PM EDT
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This is where they win if so. The more we divide and the less we trust the media and the education system and our peers and everything we used to believe as a truth the closer we slip into a state of needing a savior and will buy whatever is sold to us. It is almost all corrupt....no blinders on me. I just see where this is headed which is the people not having any form of control. Not health, not finance and not even family.
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Yep, it took a bit to start collecting the evidence and putting the parts together but it was pretty obvious that something was amiss from the very start.  Sadly I think you are wrong about the second part of your statement- we are more divided than ever and it's only getting worse, not better.  I would bet money that the majority of people, despite what they may be saying, would react in almost exactly the same way if you dropped the same scenario again.  
This is where they win if so. The more we divide and the less we trust the media and the education system and our peers and everything we used to believe as a truth the closer we slip into a state of needing a savior and will buy whatever is sold to us. It is almost all corrupt....no blinders on me. I just see where this is headed which is the people not having any form of control. Not health, not finance and not even family.


I'd say it's all by design, and as you note, unfortunately it's working.  The social experiment aspect of this thing has been just as important as the rest of the parts.  I'll admit I was surprised at how effective it was; while I expected a lot of people to comply, I wouldn't have guessed just how many would and to the extent that they did- and still do.
4/16/2023 3:49:07 PM EDT
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I'd say it's all by design, and as you note, unfortunately it's working.  The social experiment aspect of this thing has been just as important as the rest of the parts.  I'll admit I was surprised at how effective it was; while I expected a lot of people to comply, I wouldn't have guessed just how many would and to the extent that they did- and still do.
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Even scarier than how many voluntarily complied, was how many were all in favor of forcing compliance by others.
When people fear their government, there is tyrrany. When the government fears the people, there is liberty. ---- Thomas Jefferson
4/16/2023 4:08:00 PM EDT
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Even scarier than how many voluntarily complied, was how many were all in favor of forcing compliance by others.
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I'd say it's all by design, and as you note, unfortunately it's working.  The social experiment aspect of this thing has been just as important as the rest of the parts.  I'll admit I was surprised at how effective it was; while I expected a lot of people to comply, I wouldn't have guessed just how many would and to the extent that they did- and still do.


Even scarier than how many voluntarily complied, was how many were all in favor of forcing compliance by others.
and it's a great example of why people who value their freedom should prepare accordingly for such scenarios.
By DoubleARon: Newton's Fourth Law: An object that fucks around tends to find out.
4/16/2023 4:15:45 PM EDT
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Still tripling down on their bullshit.
"The difference between robbery and charity is consent."
4/16/2023 4:33:59 PM EDT
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Yep, it took a bit to start collecting the evidence and putting the parts together but it was pretty obvious that something was amiss from the very start.  Sadly I think you are wrong about the second part of your statement- we are more divided than ever and it's only getting worse, not better.  I would bet money that the majority of people, despite what they may be saying, would react in almost exactly the same way if you dropped the same scenario again.  
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What made me suspicious was how they almost immediately said that no already existing meds would work, they jumped straight to an experimental vaccine using a technology that had never been successful before. If the disease was so deadly, they should have been trying everything they had. Instead it was "no, that won't work. We have to have a vaccine."
When people fear their government, there is tyrrany. When the government fears the people, there is liberty. ---- Thomas Jefferson
4/16/2023 5:57:51 PM EDT
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Still tripling down on their bullshit.
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They lied about everything.


Still tripling down on their bullshit.

Admit Nothing. Deny Everything. Make Counteraccusations.
4/16/2023 6:21:28 PM EDT
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What made me suspicious was how they almost immediately said that no already existing meds would work, they jumped straight to an experimental vaccine using a technology that had never been successful before. If the disease was so deadly, they should have been trying everything they had. Instead it was "no, that won't work. We have to have a vaccine."
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^^This.  And further they never gave advice or education to the public on things they could do to improve immune function and prepare yourself.  It was as if the virus was immune to your immune system.

An example, I remember Jennifer Garner did a zoom interview with Fauci where he admitted taking vitamin D supplements himself, and as far as I know it was the only time he mentioned it.

4/16/2023 6:26:31 PM EDT
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How we say in Germany: Ach was?! Wirklich?!
4/16/2023 8:54:38 PM EDT
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What made me suspicious was how they almost immediately said that no already existing meds would work, they jumped straight to an experimental vaccine using a technology that had never been successful before. If the disease was so deadly, they should have been trying everything they had. Instead it was "no, that won't work. We have to have a vaccine."
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AND threatened to yank the licenses of any medical professionals who dared  go against the official narrative.
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.
4/16/2023 11:07:15 PM EDT
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What made me suspicious was how they almost immediately said that no already existing meds would work, they jumped straight to an experimental vaccine using a technology that had never been successful before. If the disease was so deadly, they should have been trying everything they had. Instead it was "no, that won't work. We have to have a vaccine."
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My buddy’s wife is a pharmacist and has lupus. She became very concerned in spring 2020 when there were a huge number of scripts for hydroxychloroquine being filled for doctors and their families ‘before’ it was publicly mentioned as a possible treatment for Covid. She said stocks of the medication were getting low and she was afraid it was going to become difficult to get it for her lupus and was relieved when the govt discredited it as a Covid therapy. She then went full vax tard and pressured my buddy into getting it also so they could still go on cruises
4/17/2023 12:08:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By g8rgunner:


What made me suspicious was how they almost immediately said that no already existing meds would work, they jumped straight to an experimental vaccine using a technology that had never been successful before. If the disease was so deadly, they should have been trying everything they had. Instead it was "no, that won't work. We have to have a vaccine."
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic:
Yep, it took a bit to start collecting the evidence and putting the parts together but it was pretty obvious that something was amiss from the very start.  Sadly I think you are wrong about the second part of your statement- we are more divided than ever and it's only getting worse, not better.  I would bet money that the majority of people, despite what they may be saying, would react in almost exactly the same way if you dropped the same scenario again.  


What made me suspicious was how they almost immediately said that no already existing meds would work, they jumped straight to an experimental vaccine using a technology that had never been successful before. If the disease was so deadly, they should have been trying everything they had. Instead it was "no, that won't work. We have to have a vaccine."

This was the big tell for me that something was off with the whole thing.
What is written is my opinion, and my opinion only.
4/17/2023 10:06:30 AM EDT
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It was off the rails on day 16.

Thinking twice and posting once. Ya, right......... /images/smilies/anim_rolleyes.gif

Some guy named Darwin used to be in charge of QA, but he got fired.
4/18/2023 9:40:54 AM EDT
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Certain people here pushed that hard too.  Don't forget.
4/18/2023 9:44:46 AM EDT
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I will never forget. One in specific is a Doc who had a HUGE propaganda thread with him getting the shot in pics and pressuring us do do our duty and get the shot.
"Whoever makes himself great will be made humble. Whoever makes himself humble will be made great." -Jesus

"if it can be destroyed by the truth, it deserves to be destroyed by the truth" - Linus from Charlie Brown
4/18/2023 9:44:55 AM EDT
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That's where I am.  Seeing people here give us the "Government isn't FORCING you... you just will lose your income" argument was freaking eye opening to me.  I won't forget nor forgive that.
4/18/2023 10:12:06 AM EDT
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I will never forget. One in specific is a Doc who had a HUGE propaganda thread with him getting the shot in pics and pressuring us do do our duty and get the shot.
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I was certainly early-on leaning "doomer".  I'll admit that and I'll stick to my position at that time given the information at hand and my proximity to what the hospital I work at was seeing and saying in internal meetings.  However it also became apparent that it was not killing everyone that came in contact and that it was burning through it's "fuel" fairly quickly because with a few months and valid age ranges showing up in state data it was clear where the risk lay.  Elderly had it pretty bad, way worse than simple flu but below 40 the impacts were no longer worth the worry.  So a reasonable take would be to try and protect older people while letting the working population do it's normal thing.

I'm still not a "flu-bro" either.  I know it has had a long-term impact on me since I got the OG strain.  I've had a very notable loss of stamina overall.  I get winded far easier than I did before and largely had to give up my hobby of backpacking because the effort required was beyond what I consider enjoyable for a recreation activity.  The spike is not good for organs and I do believe the virus does lasting damage as well.  Where I got off the train early was the notion that we needed to be locked into our homes and our business ruined.  You CAN NOT stop an airborne respiratory virus and locking people into homes and shutting down was a huge "mistake" aimed squarely at ushering in vote-by-mail.

So yeah, I early on bet on a higher death toll and an illness who's negatives were more than just death.  Turns out the death toll was way less and much more lopsided on the age chart than early information indicated but I still believe I'm right about it being more than 'just the flu'.  The vaccine, well... I've told my story there too.  Watching the scumbags in American government turn that into a political persecution opened my eyes wide open.  There is nothing, no portion of government or agency at all that exists with any ethos beyond "serve the party".  There are no institutions that have any backbone either.  Seeing people I personally know supposedly dedicated to science turn into fanatical lying cheerleaders was disturbing.  Didn't used to believe that was really possible, but after the last 3 years.  I'm a convert.
4/18/2023 10:46:41 AM EDT
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That's where I am.  Seeing people here give us the "Government isn't FORCING you... you just will lose your income" argument was freaking eye opening to me.  I won't forget nor forgive that.
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Even scarier than how many voluntarily complied, was how many were all in favor of forcing compliance by others.


That's where I am.  Seeing people here give us the "Government isn't FORCING you... you just will lose your income" argument was freaking eye opening to me.  I won't forget nor forgive that.

The one thing that just infuriates me is how they, the left, can change positions instantly and no one calls them on it.

"My body, my choice" was lefist infallible dogma until masks and shots came around.   Then they just ignored that mantra.
2021, the year America died of democratism.
4/18/2023 10:47:29 AM EDT
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That was about my day as well

2021, the year America died of democratism.
4/18/2023 10:54:32 AM EDT
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What made me suspicious was how they almost immediately said that no already existing meds would work, they jumped straight to an experimental vaccine using a technology that had never been successful before. If the disease was so deadly, they should have been trying everything they had. Instead it was "no, that won't work. We have to have a vaccine."
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What really woke me up was when hydroxychloroquine started being discussed as a possible helpful medication, they immediately got a study out showing that not only did it not work, it was dangerous. Then that study was proven to be completely fraudulent, but the claims it made continued being the official stance. Same with masks. From "they don't do anything" to "put a piece of cloth on your face or grandma dies" in about a day.

I used to think that the medical industry actually was trying to help people.
4/18/2023 10:56:10 AM EDT
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I was certainly early-on leaning "doomer".  I'll admit that and I'll stick to my position at that time given the information at hand and my proximity to what the hospital I work at was seeing and saying in internal meetings.  However it also became apparent that it was not killing everyone that came in contact and that it was burning through it's "fuel" fairly quickly because with a few months and valid age ranges showing up in state data it was clear where the risk lay.  Elderly had it pretty bad, way worse than simple flu but below 40 the impacts were no longer worth the worry.  So a reasonable take would be to try and protect older people while letting the working population do it's normal thing.

I'm still not a "flu-bro" either.  I know it has had a long-term impact on me since I got the OG strain.  I've had a very notable loss of stamina overall.  I get winded far easier than I did before and largely had to give up my hobby of backpacking because the effort required was beyond what I consider enjoyable for a recreation activity.  The spike is not good for organs and I do believe the virus does lasting damage as well.  Where I got off the train early was the notion that we needed to be locked into our homes and our business ruined.  You CAN NOT stop an airborne respiratory virus and locking people into homes and shutting down was a huge "mistake" aimed squarely at ushering in vote-by-mail.

So yeah, I early on bet on a higher death toll and an illness who's negatives were more than just death.  Turns out the death toll was way less and much more lopsided on the age chart than early information indicated but I still believe I'm right about it being more than 'just the flu'.  The vaccine, well... I've told my story there too.  Watching the scumbags in American government turn that into a political persecution opened my eyes wide open.  There is nothing, no portion of government or agency at all that exists with any ethos beyond "serve the party".  There are no institutions that have any backbone either.  Seeing people I personally know supposedly dedicated to science turn into fanatical lying cheerleaders was disturbing.  Didn't used to believe that was really possible, but after the last 3 years.  I'm a convert.
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I am in my early 50's and overweight. It nearly killed me. Sickest I have ever been in my life. I was so untrusting of the medical industrial complex I refused to go to the hospital. My wife who worked in the medical industry kept me going, she tried to make me go but I would not as knew they would do to me what they did to two other people I knew, stick me on a vent and start me on Remdesivir and kill me, I assumed just die at home on my terms. My pulse ox levels were staying around 74. I was not eating but taking a lot of water and using a cpap and nebulizer and made it thank God.
"Whoever makes himself great will be made humble. Whoever makes himself humble will be made great." -Jesus

"if it can be destroyed by the truth, it deserves to be destroyed by the truth" - Linus from Charlie Brown
4/18/2023 11:37:47 AM EDT
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What really woke me up was when hydroxychloroquine started being discussed as a possible helpful medication, they immediately got a study out showing that not only did it not work, it was dangerous. Then that study was proven to be completely fraudulent, but the claims it made continued being the official stance. Same with masks. From "they don't do anything" to "put a piece of cloth on your face or grandma dies" in about a day.

I used to think that the medical industry actually was trying to help people.
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What made me suspicious was how they almost immediately said that no already existing meds would work, they jumped straight to an experimental vaccine using a technology that had never been successful before. If the disease was so deadly, they should have been trying everything they had. Instead it was "no, that won't work. We have to have a vaccine."


What really woke me up was when hydroxychloroquine started being discussed as a possible helpful medication, they immediately got a study out showing that not only did it not work, it was dangerous. Then that study was proven to be completely fraudulent, but the claims it made continued being the official stance. Same with masks. From "they don't do anything" to "put a piece of cloth on your face or grandma dies" in about a day.

I used to think that the medical industry actually was trying to help people.

They are still trying to help people...help people spend all their money on medical procedures and MAINTENANCE medicines.
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.
4/18/2023 11:53:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MeatBag:


What really woke me up was when hydroxychloroquine started being discussed as a possible helpful medication, they immediately got a study out showing that not only did it not work, it was dangerous. Then that study was proven to be completely fraudulent, but the claims it made continued being the official stance. Same with masks. From "they don't do anything" to "put a piece of cloth on your face or grandma dies" in about a day.

I used to think that the medical industry actually was trying to help people.
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Very early on, when they were saying 'don't use masks', is when I wore one to the grocery store like 3 times.     I felt like an idiot (no one else was yet wearing masks), and then it was around that moment that they switched and started pushing masks hard, but I already decided that was enough for me.
4/18/2023 1:30:40 PM EDT
[#41]
From Twitter, a classic:



Way to go U.S. Military! Kick ass and take names! NRA Life member, Ohio CCW.org member, Ohio CCW licensee, Infidel ????

LEGP 2001 #321
4/18/2023 1:55:25 PM EDT
[#42]
It's was clear that was a lie, everyone with an IQ over 100 knew that. It didn't make any logical sense.

I was a flubro from week one.
4/18/2023 2:22:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Procyon:
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Sorry Joe. Still here, buddy. Still PureBlood.

Rockin' it.
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Still here.

“Liberalism, the noble annihilator, has hollowed out every institution, every binding force, every social failsafe and backstop, and its agents feign surprise when the liberating infanticide it promotes is taken to its next logical step.”
4/18/2023 2:24:31 PM EDT
[#44]
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Originally Posted By S13:
The ONLY  truth is there was a respiratory virus.  Everything else was a lie.
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You are so damn right.

I wonder if we suddenly took weather events and blew them out of proportion blaming something for their cause like, I don't know, climate change, if people would react differently.  Hmmm.

“Liberalism, the noble annihilator, has hollowed out every institution, every binding force, every social failsafe and backstop, and its agents feign surprise when the liberating infanticide it promotes is taken to its next logical step.”
4/18/2023 2:36:14 PM EDT
[#45]
People have gotten emails from King County Health and the WA State Dept of Health. Early Summer of 2021 they were emailing back and forth talking about the shots not working. These emails have been obtained through FOIA requests. Governor Inslee still went ahead with his vaccine mandate which is still in place today.
4/18/2023 2:49:44 PM EDT
[#46]
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Originally Posted By S13:
The ONLY  truth is there was a respiratory virus.  Everything else was a lie.
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I'm absolutely, firmly convinced that without all "with" instead of just the "of" deaths (and the hospitals killing people with their treatments and their lack of treatment until people were at deaths door) it would have been a '58 flu type event at the worst.
But he sure found out the hard way
That dreams don't always come true
4/18/2023 2:58:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By OG1:
I am in my early 50's and overweight. It nearly killed me. Sickest I have ever been in my life. I was so untrusting of the medical industrial complex I refused to go to the hospital. My wife who worked in the medical industry kept me going, she tried to make me go but I would not as knew they would do to me what they did to two other people I knew, stick me on a vent and start me on Remdesivir and kill me, I assumed just die at home on my terms. My pulse ox levels were staying around 74. I was not eating but taking a lot of water and using a cpap and nebulizer and made it thank God.
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Remdesivir and vents killed a lot of people that should still be alive.
4/18/2023 5:22:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By OG1:
I am in my early 50's and overweight. It nearly killed me. Sickest I have ever been in my life. I was so untrusting of the medical industrial complex I refused to go to the hospital. My wife who worked in the medical industry kept me going, she tried to make me go but I would not as knew they would do to me what they did to two other people I knew, stick me on a vent and start me on Remdesivir and kill me, I assumed just die at home on my terms. My pulse ox levels were staying around 74. I was not eating but taking a lot of water and using a cpap and nebulizer and made it thank God.
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Yeah.  Being 45 at the time I was in that grey zone.  I did not want to get it and be in the hospital in the early days of them knowing fuck-all about it either so I took precautions.  I got nailed on the second hump going to an auto parts store.  For certain the OG strain did have a pretty stout hospitalization rate for 50's and older.  For me the illness was VERY mild.  Not even close to my worst flu.  Just loss of all smell and taste but the fatigue lasted a long time.  Weeks went by and the cut to my respiratory capacity was noticed after I got my energy back so the illness symptoms don't tell the whole tale.  It's not (or was not) "just a flu".  This has impacted my life and I would rather have not gotten the original if I had my druthers but... I was not going to spend my life in hiding for years either.
4/18/2023 5:25:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wrc777:


Remdesivir and vents killed a lot of people that should still be alive.
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It definitely seems that shoving people onto vents as fast as they could was not really having a great effect.
4/18/2023 5:44:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Grunteled:



It definitely seems that shoving people onto vents as fast as they could was not really having a great effect.
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Originally Posted By Grunteled:
Originally Posted By wrc777:


Remdesivir and vents killed a lot of people that should still be alive.



It definitely seems that shoving people onto vents as fast as they could was not really having a great effect.

That depends on what effect they wanted.
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

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