Federal judge in Michigan gets caught driving SUPER DRUNK gets 19 months paid time off (Page 2 of 2)
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Originally Posted By lorazepam: Had a guy that blew a .24 at 0745 going to work.  That was in 1981. Owned a used car dealership.Originally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By xerxes2695: .27 and not puking or passing out, that guy gets hammered every day. Had a guy that blew a .24 at 0745 going to work. That was in 1981. Owned a used car dealership.
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Originally Posted By destaccado: As the revenue of bars shrinks around the country due to Gen-Z drinking less than previous generations - unasked-for double pours are becoming the norm. There's at least 3-4 bars in Milwaukee my PI firm has found doing it now but the normal tendency is still for the system to blame the drinker. If you order a mixed drink - they serve and charge you for a double so they can increase their average order value and therefore their tips. 20 years ago this was (almost) never the case. The difference between 4-6 drinks and 4-6 double drinks over a couple hours for a typical man is easily a ~.1 vs a ~.27 due to the effect of how the body processes the same amount of alcohol per hour regardless of your BAC. The difference is that at a .1 you know you're drunk and so most normal people don't drive. At .27 for people who aren't chronic alcoholics you're zonked and don't even know you're on the road. Alcohol expectancy theory is the science behind the fact that if you believe you're drinking the singles based on past experience - you wouldn't actually realize you weren't until you were already blacked out. Not saying this is what happened with this judge - but a first time DUI at 72? I wouldn't be shocked. Michigan's drinking culture is pretty similar to Wisconsin's. Originally Posted By destaccado: Originally Posted By chupacabras: Blew a .27 and first time offense at age 72? That’s impressive. As the revenue of bars shrinks around the country due to Gen-Z drinking less than previous generations - unasked-for double pours are becoming the norm. There's at least 3-4 bars in Milwaukee my PI firm has found doing it now but the normal tendency is still for the system to blame the drinker. If you order a mixed drink - they serve and charge you for a double so they can increase their average order value and therefore their tips. 20 years ago this was (almost) never the case. The difference between 4-6 drinks and 4-6 double drinks over a couple hours for a typical man is easily a ~.1 vs a ~.27 due to the effect of how the body processes the same amount of alcohol per hour regardless of your BAC. The difference is that at a .1 you know you're drunk and so most normal people don't drive. At .27 for people who aren't chronic alcoholics you're zonked and don't even know you're on the road. Alcohol expectancy theory is the science behind the fact that if you believe you're drinking the singles based on past experience - you wouldn't actually realize you weren't until you were already blacked out. Not saying this is what happened with this judge - but a first time DUI at 72? I wouldn't be shocked. Michigan's drinking culture is pretty similar to Wisconsin's. I was at an event with a DWI attorney I had done some work with and at some point he asked the bartender how much he was pouring. Bartender had been doing exactly that dumping doubles, DWI guy put the glass down and called a cab. This guy did nothing but DWI defense and had a few before he had the presence of mind to ask. So I could see it happening. |
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Originally Posted By pscipio03: Wonder if this will have any impact on previous cases he's presided over regarding DUIs. Whether too lenient or too harsh. Also, would have to assume he'd had to recuse himself from any of those moving forward when he's back on the bench. He is a federal Judge he doesn't preside over a DUI case. |
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At 65, a federal judge can take "senior" status and retire at salary for life, so the judge could just stop working altogether and get paid the same. At least this way, he might come back sober in a bit and the taxpayers get some more work out of him. There does need to be a slightly easier way to remove Article III judges for misconduct, because almost none have ever been impeached, but that would take a Constitutional Amendment. |