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11/4/2025 7:01:33 AM EDT
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Anyone following the crash at Area 51?

Then, four days after the crash, the security teams vanished. Arnu went back out for a look. The Air Force had used heavy equipment to plow a dirt road across a section of desert. Arnu followed it and found what he thought was the crash site, then shared it online. That’s when things got strange, even by Area 51 standards.

A second wave of cleanup crews descended on the site, presumably to pick up any remaining debris, but they also used graders to cover the entire area with a thick layer of dirt, making this literally a cover-up.
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https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/west/unknown-object-crash-near-area-51-fuels-cover-up-claims/
11/4/2025 7:48:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sw25th:
we are likely on borrowed time.   the evidence is nauseatingly overwhelming.  The Govt has made zero admissions to aliens being here.

The material the govt has captured is likely just Proprietary and will not lead to much insight.  Its probably designed in such a way if we capture it, we cant do anything with it.  

How many aliens are here? 1000?  10,000? 1 million?  

It is possible there are alien bases parked off our coasts with 1 million aliens in them, and all they have to do is pick an evening to unleash their army and it will be over.  

Theyre clearly taking their time, and studying us.  They're clearly here for awhile now.  

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I don’t get any kind of impression that they’re an “army” or wish to take over. They could have done so at literally any point previously or for the forseeable future, so you can take that off the table.

This is where I’m either thinking we’re “soul containers” which is a trope I first heard about from Lazar and repeated many times since…

or that UFOs are a massively advanced race’s projections into our reality, which we perceive very narrowly.
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11/4/2025 2:14:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By OTHP:
The memory holed  Fla mall vid would be the one inside the mall with everyone running away for what appeared to be 2 or 3 open shimmering portals with 2 or 3 10 foot shadow beings coming out of them.
It was on Utube for about a day and gone.
I seem to remember there are vids discussing the vid that was removed.

The portals opening is before everyone panics and takes off that part is cut out of all the vids on Utube now.

And if it really was teens with firecrackers or even guns why over 200 cops show up?
Free donuts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3NTBfu9Tao

It's a weird one for sure same as vegas to many eye witness accounts of the same thing to be totally fabricated.
More so how Utube was on a censorship mission to remove the vids and eyewittness account vids as soon as they popped up.
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I remember that, don';t recall exactly when it was, but I do remember YouTube going hyper-Nazi on their "Fake News!!!!" brigade where they took down every video anybody reported where the uploader couldn't provide a mainstream media source to validate it.   At the same time, if you post a MSM news clip, they delete it for copyright reasons.   Basically, we don't even know now that Wikipedia is fully controlled by those who controlled the news a decade ago, as is youtube. so finding primary source information to collaborate with others ( like the mall footage above and all the police outside the other mall and such ) is nearly impossible to find before they sanitize it.  

They go through all of that simply to shape public opinion and block options, imagine how far they'll go when it's something they really want to shut down rather than simply massage details on.

The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
11/8/2025 2:00:51 AM EDT
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I should reiterate that aliens are already here.  Potentially in large numbers.  As in millions.  What is perplexing is how they can remain both visible occasionally and elusive in other ways.  They do have technology enabling this ability, but their come and go, and being very 'short' with their time indicates that they are shy and not ready to meet us. But they are curious enough to want to observe us.



11/10/2025 4:09:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sw25th:
I should reiterate that aliens are already here.  Potentially in large numbers.  As in millions.  What is perplexing is how they can remain both visible occasionally and elusive in other ways.  They do have technology enabling this ability, but their come and go, and being very 'short' with their time indicates that they are shy and not ready to meet us. But they are curious enough to want to observe us.



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What if they are extremely tiny in size compared to us, but have very high tech and destructive options.  Odd to assume aliens will be the size of us, but it's also odd that we are a size that fits right in the middle of the scale between an atom and the universe  Of all the sizes we could be, we're right in the middle, so I guess that's evidence for others to be in the middle as well?

The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
11/10/2025 4:59:16 PM EDT
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What’s the Las Vegas stuff you reference? Any video of the 8ft alien crawling out of a hole?
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11/10/2025 8:09:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By VeritatisUnus:
What’s the Las Vegas stuff you reference? Any video of the 8ft alien crawling out of a hole?
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UFO above Sapphire Las Vegas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPkVU0GmhgQ

The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
11/12/2025 5:35:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By brass:
Here's one of the views of the Vegas one, there's a couple others.   It's there and reflecting the searchlights, then it is no longer there, it's pretty weird and this guy didn't clean the lens on his potato cam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twgWXO1-D-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twgWXO1-D-4

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Shit thats a new one to me
11/12/2025 5:38:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By southerncross:


What was the Fla mall incident? I never heard that one before.
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Some legit shenanigans and coverup were goin on there bro.
11/12/2025 5:47:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By IH1026:
I often wondered the reasoning behind all the undersea exploration where they were finding all the WWII shipwrecks that were so deep.. they were looking for something else and stumbled upon them too make it look good.

Something is down there the powers that be are not telling us about.
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11/12/2025 6:14:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By IH1026:
I often wondered the reasoning behind all the undersea exploration where they were finding all the WWII shipwrecks that were so deep.. they were looking for something else and stumbled upon them too make it look good.

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Steel that isn't contaminated by radiation.  Look it up.

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11/12/2025 8:32:55 PM EDT
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If there were that many, everybody on Earth would know of at least one person that had seen one. I don't know anybody that's seen anything identifiable as an alien, or even an alien object.

There are those that say they have, but I don't know a single on of them, neither does anyone I know.

I will believe, the minute I see one with my own eyes, that cannot be explained, that can reach out and touch me, and that I can reach out and touch. Until then. people are seeing things they can't explain and their minds are filling in the blanks.

Same goes for Bigfoot.
11/12/2025 9:17:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NotIssued:

Steel that isn't contaminated by radiation.  Look it up.

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I'm not sure what your point is here. They're not going to do anything with ships a few miles below the surface that are obvious war graves.
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11/16/2025 1:09:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By IH1026:

I'm not sure what your point is here. They're not going to do anything with ships a few miles below the surface that are obvious war graves.
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Originally Posted By NotIssued:

Steel that isn't contaminated by radiation.  Look it up.

@IH1026

I'm not sure what your point is here. They're not going to do anything with ships a few miles below the surface that are obvious war graves.


Might just be going down to pull the ammo for the 50s and any other uncontaminated lead.   There will be a point where they pull up  ship they sunk as live fire exercises for the steel since anything that has been above surface can't be used for extremely sensitive circuits like Geiger counter as well as building all the MRI machines and Radiation room shielding in every hospital.  

They used to use old elevator weights that were on the interior core of buildings and similar locations that received very little, still lower than today's background, but that background is why they're hunting for more unconventional sources.
The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
11/16/2025 3:40:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Redman556:
If there were that many, everybody on Earth would know of at least one person that had seen one. I don't know anybody that's seen anything identifiable as an alien, or even an alien object.

There are those that say they have, but I don't know a single on of them, neither does anyone I know.

I will believe, the minute I see one with my own eyes, that cannot be explained, that can reach out and touch me, and that I can reach out and touch. Until then. people are seeing things they can't explain and their minds are filling in the blanks.

Same goes for Bigfoot.
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What if they are hybrids? Several generations in to look human.  I mean, if you want to make wheat that survives in the desert or swamp, you hybridize it. If you want to take over a planet with a slightly different environment, you could hybridize a native species with your own.  

If so inclined you could breed multiple populations and keep a health check on the stock and clear away any genetic defects from the program. As time goes on, your selected stocks will be more and more healthy and compatible for stable hybridization.
“The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.” - Henri Bergson
11/16/2025 3:48:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sw25th:
Earth May Be Completely Infested with Aliens

As a UAP/UFO Researcher for the past 5 years, I have slowly been accumulating the most credible information and then creating an executive summary based on all the highest most credible evidence possible.

The situation may be far more depressing than we realize.  Earth may be completely infested and compromised by a superior alien species that is essentially taking their time studying us knowing they have us under their thumb.

Some supporting information like:

-Show boating
-UFO/UAP ships that are proprietary and designed to be difficult to reproduce if captured by humans.
-Sample taking such as eyes and tongues
-Intense amounts of ISR / Surveillance
-The interest in controlling nuclear weapons and taking measures to turn them off and on in different countries.
- Dr. Villarreol research showing potentially thousands of objects in orbit around earth.  Now these objects may be more located undersea bases in response to our going into orbit ourselves.  
- Shadow aliens who appear or vanish (based on eye witness reports) indicates a desire to observe and test without confrontation (what a spy tries to do)
-Behaviors of aliens are generally anti social, or passive aggressive, and sometimes showing superiority.  (in psych, this would be considered hostile).
-Sustained surveillance (drone sightings in lots of places, usa, england, europe).
-Extremely large ships have been reported in atmosphere, video of a 100-300ft wide saucer is also available.
-Alien seen outside a womans house in Compton
-Reports of their technology going through solid objects, as well as air into sea without making a splash (ignoring matter).
-Hellfire UAP invulnerability perk to our weapons, it even shows gravity stabilization after strike which we dont have this tech.
-Potentially hundreds of First Rate Reliable eye witnesses.
-Tic Tac Form Factor seen on Mars in NASA Raw Image showing it to be around 4-8mm in length casting a shadow while it trails the rover.  The same Tic Tac has been seen off California with a 40ft size.  This means they can scale up and scale down from tiny to large.
-Large 3 carrier size UFO  seen off coast of Alaska by JAL cargo flight, could have been a UFO base repositioning which they by luck managed to witness.
-Implants into humans may be far more extensive than we realize, and all US Service members should be scanned for these probes, especially those in the UFO UAP program and other sensitive areas.  

Based on this and given all available information on the public domain, we are dealing with a definite visitor, who could be here in the tens of thousands. It is possible for them to be here without us being fully aware of their origin, numbers, or capabilities beyond what we have seen so far.  

They have reacted, adapted, and modified their behaviors in nearly real time based on our perceptions, discussions, and other knowledge of them.  The only good news is they do not seem ready for a confrontation, and are taking their time to study us.

Unfortunately because of a lack of government level acknowledgement of them, people are left to their own to discover these executive summaries which can vary in fact, but they all reach the same conclusions, that we are not alone, and they are here.    

Based on the video from Las Vegas, we can presume these aliens are extremely dangerous, but presently not killing us.  They seem to be studying us and may have complete and total surveillance on almost all of us.  

The Pentagon and Govt still has not come out in anyway acknowledging this, and still are attempting to keep a lid on it.  


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Oops. Not GD.
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11/19/2025 11:08:11 AM EDT
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This hit me today.

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11/19/2025 12:59:08 PM EDT
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Makes a person wonder if Spielberg has inside info.
11/19/2025 3:35:25 PM EDT
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That is ....  Quite Compelling.  It's not like there were any places we little people could see all these things  in our lives outside of disinfo and National Enquirer level stories so they could be mocked.

The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
11/19/2025 3:43:47 PM EDT
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Makes a person wonder if Spielberg has inside info.
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The faked mummy was made to look like the movie aliens.
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11/19/2025 3:43:47 PM EDT
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diddy bop
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"If The Rules brought us to this, what use are they?"
11/19/2025 4:02:47 PM EDT
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The faked mummy was made to look like the movie aliens.
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Originally Posted By HighlanderI:


Makes a person wonder if Spielberg has inside info.

The faked mummy was made to look like the movie aliens.


Are they fake? Even if one is not, thats huge.  I’m not 100% up on them, but what I’ve seen is compelling.

Peru’s Three Fingered “Aliens” (WTF Are These?!)
“The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.” - Henri Bergson
11/19/2025 4:25:50 PM EDT
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I really am not opposed to believing. But considering cameras are everywhere. And no one has shown really great video.

And just crap videos at night by drunk people. Or 14 year olds running at a mall. Or some object or cloud that is reflecting light.

I will wait for more evidence.  

That small Peru UFO mummy was chicken bones wrapped in paper mache, right?

That "bigfoot" in a freezer was a dead goat wrapped in a ape Halloween costume then frozen.. Obvious once the flesh was sent to DNA sampling.

People for some reason like to fake stuff, lie, or even make props and then maybe they die or sell them as something else.  

Call me when you have good video, then an autopsy with DNA sampling, toxicology and maybe  some written reports from the best pathologists in the world.
12/5/2025 2:59:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mike4eva:
I really am not opposed to believing. But considering cameras are everywhere. And no one has shown really great video.

And just crap videos at night by drunk people. Or 14 year olds running at a mall. Or some object or cloud that is reflecting light.

I will wait for more evidence.  

That small Peru UFO mummy was chicken bones wrapped in paper mache, right?

That "bigfoot" in a freezer was a dead goat wrapped in a ape Halloween costume then frozen.. Obvious once the flesh was sent to DNA sampling.

People for some reason like to fake stuff, lie, or even make props and then maybe they die or sell them as something else.  

Call me when you have good video, then an autopsy with DNA sampling, toxicology and maybe  some written reports from the best pathologists in the world.
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Have you watched the movie "They Live" ?     It's not absolute direct but it shows how we could be tricked with the obvious message while being nudged with a subliminal/exposure message underneath we really don't think about.    If they've been around with high technology for 6000 years +, they certainly have a way to blend in with the public perfectly as a human "suit" so to speak (Edgar from MIB as sloppy example).  

We don't have enough information to come to a conclusion, every time they release more info,w e only have more questions and have several conflicting bits of information and we are not sure who to trust so we keep all the bits and see which ones are comfy next to each other instead of being forced into some sort of "truth".




Seriously, what level of "proof" would be needed for some of the skeptics?   Having video of a UFO inside and out with humans showing it hovering and flying, that wouldn't be enough for some people since it could be faked, like the moon landing or some secret Lockmart project.  Then they let you in to touch and look around yourself, well, they're just showcasing the latest 3D printing with metal technology, it's not really from non humans.    There's a  point where "skeptics" are no longer "skeptics" and are flat out debunkers who will not accept anything.  Those are the sorts that ruin the feel of this forum while adding nothing to it but claiming it is all bullshit without actually really thinking about what has been presented, or even not looking at that information.  

The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
12/5/2025 9:35:33 PM EDT
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There are different kinds of skeptics I think.  Some are due to religious beliefs. Some are scientifically skeptical. More than a few are contrarians. And a few are simply denialists out of fear.

I think the scientifically minded will accept photos and videos presented by officials and scientists, just like the broad general public.

The religious folks will be a mixed bag. Some will accept the same as above. But many will say it’s the devils deception.  Others will say it’s a fraud because it’s not in the bible.

Contrarians will be contrary.

Denialists will probably be the ones to self harm.
“The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.” - Henri Bergson
12/19/2025 7:34:02 AM EDT
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Sweetwater County Sheriff John Grossnickle saw the drone-like flying objects with his own eyes as recently as Saturday night, his spokesman Jason Mower told Cowboy State Daily on Monday.

That marks 13 months of lighted, drone-like objects congregating, often in coordinated formations, over the Red Desert and power plant, Mower said, adding that they’re too high to shoot down from the ground level.

“We’ve worked with everybody,” he said. “We’ve done everything we can to figure out what they are, and nobody wants to give us any answers.”

Mower said the sheriff took Wyoming U.S. House Rep. Harriet Hageman out to see the objects, and she watched them.
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https://cowboystatedaily.com/2025/12/15/mystery-drones-or-maybe-ufos-over-sweetwater-county-are-the-new-normal/

https://nypost.com/2025/12/18/us-news/wyoming-power-plant-booming-with-suspected-ufo-drone-sightings-but-still-no-answers-after-a-year/
12/19/2025 9:03:38 AM EDT
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Well that's pretty big news.  I'll have to run this by the Ms.  She's my bellweather for non ufo interested/informed public.
12/19/2025 10:22:59 AM EDT
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I am starting to think some of the .gov agents who are "whistleblowing" are part of the military industrial complex trying to stoke fear to justify more funding.  

Especially when the narrative turns to the fact that many countries have donations and we have to beat them to the punch.
Ohio weather STILL sucks, even more!
12/19/2025 1:19:07 PM EDT
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I am starting to think some of the .gov agents who are "whistleblowing" are part of the military industrial complex trying to stoke fear to justify more funding.  

Especially when the narrative turns to the fact that many countries have donations and we have to beat them to the punch.
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Fear is a means to control. I too am skeptical of the motivations behind some of the whistleblowers.

What I question is that if they signed NDA’s, how are they able to say anything publicly? When follow up questions are asked their standard answer is they basically can’t say anything more. Well, they already acknowledged the existence of craft or beings. So how is that not a violation of their NDA?

It’s been a long time since I was in the military but from what I recall about the NDA that I signed was I can’t say shit. To anyone. And not just while I was active duty. I don’t remember what the specified time was, but it left the impression in my head that it was essentially for life. The US code for treason was quoted. So I’m a might bit confused about how so many folks have gone public with information that had to have been covered by an NDA.
12/19/2025 2:05:33 PM EDT
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Fear is a means to control. I too am skeptical of the motivations behind some of the whistleblowers.

What I question is that if they signed NDA’s, how are they able to say anything publicly? When follow up questions are asked their standard answer is they basically can’t say anything more. Well, they already acknowledged the existence of craft or beings. So how is that not a violation of their NDA?

It’s been a long time since I was in the military but from what I recall about the NDA that I signed was I can’t say shit. To anyone. And not just while I was active duty. I don’t remember what the specified time was, but it left the impression in my head that it was essentially for life. The US code for treason was quoted. So I’m a might bit confused about how so many folks have gone public with information that had to have been covered by an NDA.
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Agreed.  I was a super secret squirrel soldier and I think my NDA was life or 99 years or something.
Whatever it was, it covered rest of my normal, human, non-alien enhanced life.
Ohio weather STILL sucks, even more!
12/19/2025 3:06:08 PM EDT
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Fear is a means to control. I too am skeptical of the motivations behind some of the whistleblowers.

What I question is that if they signed NDA’s, how are they able to say anything publicly? When follow up questions are asked their standard answer is they basically can’t say anything more. Well, they already acknowledged the existence of craft or beings. So how is that not a violation of their NDA?

It’s been a long time since I was in the military but from what I recall about the NDA that I signed was I can’t say shit. To anyone. And not just while I was active duty. I don’t remember what the specified time was, but it left the impression in my head that it was essentially for life. The US code for treason was quoted. So I’m a might bit confused about how so many folks have gone public with information that had to have been covered by an NDA.
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I didn't serve but my uneducated opinion is that if you divulged secrets such as say, Intel on how we are working against China that would end up in arrest and imprisonment. If you divulged something a long the lines of alien craft, that would be like calling their bluff and they'd have to admit something that would seem so far fetched they'd just run disinfo and smear campaigns or you'd die in a car "accident"
12/22/2025 6:34:14 PM EDT
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Pilot Reports a UFO Just Flying By his Plane | "Creepy!"
12/23/2025 8:48:46 AM EDT
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And the ATC's "good luck with the aliens" is why there aren't more pilots reports.
12/23/2025 1:25:33 PM EDT
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There will be alien activists

12/24/2025 1:11:55 PM EDT
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These Alien Races Are Deeply Involved on Earth
12/24/2025 1:15:00 PM EDT
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A. If we're all aliens then no one is an alien.
B. This is not news.  Have you driven by a home depot lately?
12/24/2025 3:50:01 PM EDT
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A. If we're all aliens then no one is an alien.
B. This is not news.  Have you driven by a home depot lately?
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LOL
12/25/2025 11:48:55 PM EDT
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Reptilian Shapeshifter Billy Corgan Story Howard Stern Show Part 1 and Part 2
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