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Update on 3I/Atlas comet. Updated Paper: JWST detection of a carbon dioxide dominated gas coma surrounding interstellar object 3I/ATLAS 3I/ATLAS Update: JWST Reveals Its Composition | with Martin Cordiner  3I/ATLAS Update: JWST Reveals Its Composition | with Martin Cordiner 00:00 – Introduction 02:15 – What makes 3I/ATLAS unique among interstellar objects 07:40 – How JWST was able to capture its spectrum 14:20 – A carbon dioxide–dominated coma and what it means 20:55 – Dust, ices, and the surprising chemistry of 3I/ATLAS 27:10 – Comparing 3I/ATLAS with ‘Oumuamua and Borisov 34:50 – A relic of “cosmic noon” and planetary formation 42:30 – What interstellar comets teach us about habitability 50:05 – Future missions and how spacecraft could study 3I/ATLAS 56:30 – Final thoughts on interstellar visitors and what comes next |
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The huge camera sensor array technology fascinates me. I wonder if an orbital spherical version could be made for 360x360 degree sky surveys? Maybe have some placed around the solar system, at different points of the axis plane? Just imagine what we could find zipping around. |
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Did the big cme hit 3i atlas yet? And angry put his latest vid. I enjoy his nerdy vids.  Will the Sun destroy 3I Atlas? Solar Mega-Storm hits interstellar visitor! |
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Originally Posted By boolzi: Did the big cme hit 3i atlas yet? And angry put his latest vid. I enjoy his nerdy vids.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=411b3kxktfkI haven't watched that vid yet, but...damn. We live in fun times! 
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Started watching this for fun. It’s a “connect the dots” theory style video, entertaining thus far. Failed To Load Title |
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Update on 3I/Atlas Lot of sources in the video description. Comet 3I/ATLAS Turned Green But We Don't Know Why + Other Updates  Comet 3I/ATLAS Turned Green But We Don't Know Why + Other Updates 0:00 3I/ATLAS Updates! 1:25 Coma and tail discoveries 3:30 Composition and surface is strange 5:30 No dicarbon found, this matters 6:10 It's green! But why though? 7:00 Media hype is wrong again 8:25 Polarization strangeness 9:20 Plutoid chunks 10:00 Where did this come from and how old is it? 11:05 Shift in the color profile 11:50 Collision with a coronal mass ejection 12:30 What's next? |
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Hopefully we’ll start getting some sweet images soon. From spaceweather.com: Attached File |
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I came across that earlier and it was immediately called out as AI-generated.
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: I came across that earlier and it was immediately called out as AI-generated. Originally Posted By Cypher214: excellent 
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Originally Posted By bkpkr: Hopefully we’ll start getting some sweet images soon. From spaceweather.com: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/125849/IMG_4846_jpeg-3634462.JPG The gas cloud is so massive that mars will be in fog, no? |
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Attached File View from the comet’s perspective. |
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Originally Posted By boolzi: The gas cloud is so massive that mars will be in fog, no? Originally Posted By boolzi: Originally Posted By bkpkr: Hopefully we’ll start getting some sweet images soon. From spaceweather.com: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/125849/IMG_4846_jpeg-3634462.JPG The gas cloud is so massive that mars will be in fog, no? I’ve seen its gas cloud was around half the diameter of the sun. My quick googling and math says that’s under half a million miles. Its closest approach to Mars is around 18.5 million miles. |
COMET 3I/ATLAS HAS REACHED MARS: Interstellar Comet 3I/ATLAS is flying past Mars today--and the Mars Fleet is watching. "We're about to get our best-ever look at an interstellar comet," says physicist T. Marshall Eubanks from Space Initiatives Inc, who is helping coordinate international spacecraft teams as they train their instruments on 3I/ATLAS. As many as 6 spacecraft could get a close-up view: NASA’s MAVEN and Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, ESA's Mars Express and ExoMars Trace Gas Orbiter, the UAE's Hope probe, and China's Tianwen-1. Because 3I/ATLAS is now practically invisible from Earth as it swings behind the sun (a blackout that will last until December) Martian spacecraft may provide the only high-quality spectra and images of the comet at its brightest. "The fleet at Mars could deliver the definitive dataset," write Eubanks and colleagues, who authored a new study urging space agencies to seize this opportunity. When the comet passes Mars on Oct. 3rd, it will be almost bright enough to see with human eyes--about magnitude +6.7, according to Eubanks. If only humans were there to see it. Spacecraft will have to do all the work. The comet will be 0.195 AU (29 million km) from the Red Planet, giving the orbiting fleet a ringside seat. Of all the cameras involved, Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter's HiRISE will deliver the sharpest images: 29 km per pixel. HiRISE should resolve the comet's atmosphere (coma) with more than 850 pixels. Researchers will be on the edge of their seats to see if the camera can also glimpse the nucleus hidden within the gas cloud. Photographing the core could put to rest internet rumors that it is "alien tech." For Eubanks, getting the maximum amount of data is a labor of love. "I have worked on this very intensively since July," he says. "As my wife would tell you, we have no funding source for this." Mars is looking big in the window. Let the observing begin! |
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Originally Posted By DaGoose: I would think it would be much more energetic if it was made of anti-matter. You're not wrong. Matter-Antimatter reactions are 100% efficient. It's...kind of the point. That said, an antimatter comet plowing through a matter solar system would create some interesting and "abnormal" results, until it was figured out. Oversized coma as it rammed into the solar wind, odd color, odd elements in said coma, etc. OTOH, now we're getting into the profound problems in physics, such as why the entire Universe didn't annihilate itself in a 50/50 matter/antimatter reaction immediately after it came into being, and, well...a bunch of shit after that. 
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3i Atlas - First photos from Mars Perseverance Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By sq40: It’s oddly quiet for sure. It's...not. Welcome to day whatever of the .gov shutdown. NASA is a .gov agency, whose budget has been slashed to the bone, numerous programs cancelled, and who knows how many emplyees "furloughed." Elections have consequences. Ask the people in Gaza who elected Hamas as their "government" about those. And...has no one seen the amateur astronomer's pictures of the interstellar interloper against the backdrop of our sun? A delta-shaped black blob, surely an alien craft. I'm calling bullshit now, but, what the fuck. I've been wrong most of my life, or I'd be among the 1% dictating reality to all of you right now. |
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Originally Posted By sq40: 3i Atlas - First photos from Mars Perseverance https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49447/IMG_3221_jpeg-3636095.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49447/IMG_3222_jpeg-3636097.JPG |
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thorough review and possibly pics from mars:  NASA SHUTS DOWN as 3I/ATLAS Reaches Mars ?? Latest Images and Updates |
This is a quick video that just sums up the “weirdness” of 3i atlas. Not over the top tin foil stuff. Something Weird is Happening With 3I Atlas |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: Keep in mind, those are likely taken with a long exposure so you're seeing the comet in motion. It's most likely not a big cylinder. Yes, very good thing to keep in mind. |
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Speaking of weird shit, all of this is happening as i’m reading Project Hail Mary. I’m about 3/4 through and it’s one of the funnest sci fi books I’ve ever read. But the big thing, and not a spoiler, is panspermia and interstellar biology. So i look at this strange comet and think about Astrophage. 
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Originally Posted By Kagetora: It's...not. Welcome to day whatever of the .gov shutdown. NASA is a .gov agency, whose budget has been slashed to the bone, numerous programs cancelled, and who knows how many emplyees "furloughed." Elections have consequences. Ask the people in Gaza who elected Hamas as their "government" about those. And...has no one seen the amateur astronomer's pictures of the interstellar interloper against the backdrop of our sun? A delta-shaped black blob, surely an alien craft. I'm calling bullshit now, but, what the fuck. I've been wrong most of my life, or I'd be among the 1% dictating reality to all of you right now. Oh that’s right the government shutdown is happening and hitting NASA at a critical time. What other agencies have Mars orbiters that can see this? And, I saw that delta shaped sun photo. I don’t know if thats real or not. My default assumption is that this is an interstellar “comet” of some kind. Strange as hell and perhaps we need a new word for these. https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/s/XAESpg6lIB Attached File |
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Originally Posted By sq40: Speaking of weird shit, all of this is happening as i'm reading Project Hail Mary. I'm about 3/4 through and it's one of the funnest sci fi books I've ever read. But the big thing, and not a spoiler, is panspermia and interstellar biology. So i look at this strange comet and think about Astrophage. |
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Originally Posted By jafrush: Such a good book. Jazz hands! Originally Posted By jafrush: Originally Posted By sq40: Speaking of weird shit, all of this is happening as i'm reading Project Hail Mary. I'm about 3/4 through and it's one of the funnest sci fi books I've ever read. But the big thing, and not a spoiler, is panspermia and interstellar biology. So i look at this strange comet and think about Astrophage. Yes! Yes! Yes! Just finished it today. I teared up at the end. This is one of the greatest works of science fiction ever written. It’s simple, smart, and paced perfectly. |
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Originally Posted By sw25th: https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/ESA_s_ExoMars_and_Mars_Express_observe_comet_3I_ATLAS first imagery from europe. NASA fucked us on the imagery from highrise on MRO, it has a better camera. china hasnt sent us anything Nasa not releasing the photos or are they claiming they didn't take any? I guess the most important question was answered - would it break up on far side of sun, and the answer to that is "nope" so what it is is strange yet. |
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Some science data on it; https://avi-loeb.medium.com/the-gravity-of-3i-atlas-a0f4faa1d858 |
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Originally Posted By sq40: Some science data on it; https://avi-loeb.medium.com/the-gravity-of-3i-atlas-a0f4faa1d858 You best put anything from ol Avi in "quotes" when talking about science. |
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Jet detection on interstellar comet 3I/ATLAS with the Two-meter Twin Telescope We report a faint jet detected in deep g-band images of the interstellar comet 3I/ATLAS, also known as C/2025 N1 (ATLAS), obtained with the Two-meter Twin Telescope at Teide Observatory during the night of 2 August 2025 (UT). Between 21:18 and 00:16 UT, a total of 159 individual exposures of 50s each in the g band were acquired and co-added following the apparent motion of the object and centered on the comet optocenter. A Laplace-filtered image of the central coma of 3I/ATLAS, obtained following the method described by Serra-Ricart & Licandro (2015, ApJ, 814, 49), shows a faint jet at a position angle (PA) of 286.9+- 0.9 degrees (purple line), coincident with the broad, sunward-directed plume detected in visible images along PA = 280 +- 10 degrees (ATel #17350). The PA of the detected jet was measured at a projected distance of 6000 km from the comet optocenter (indicated by the red lines). The projected velocity vector of the comet (blue arrow) and the antisolar direction (yellow arrow) are also shown, together with the image orientation and a distance scale. 
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Originally Posted By SIMJEDI: Jet detection on interstellar comet 3I/ATLAS with the Two-meter Twin Telescope https://i.imgur.com/WVDFY8X.png Originally Posted By SIMJEDI: Jet detection on interstellar comet 3I/ATLAS with the Two-meter Twin Telescope We report a faint jet detected in deep g-band images of the interstellar comet 3I/ATLAS, also known as C/2025 N1 (ATLAS), obtained with the Two-meter Twin Telescope at Teide Observatory during the night of 2 August 2025 (UT). Between 21:18 and 00:16 UT, a total of 159 individual exposures of 50s each in the g band were acquired and co-added following the apparent motion of the object and centered on the comet optocenter. A Laplace-filtered image of the central coma of 3I/ATLAS, obtained following the method described by Serra-Ricart & Licandro (2015, ApJ, 814, 49), shows a faint jet at a position angle (PA) of 286.9+- 0.9 degrees (purple line), coincident with the broad, sunward-directed plume detected in visible images along PA = 280 +- 10 degrees (ATel #17350). The PA of the detected jet was measured at a projected distance of 6000 km from the comet optocenter (indicated by the red lines). The projected velocity vector of the comet (blue arrow) and the antisolar direction (yellow arrow) are also shown, together with the image orientation and a distance scale. https://i.imgur.com/WVDFY8X.png Angry Astronaut made a comment that IF, big if, this thing is artificial, it could be camouflaging itself. If so, the camouflage is working very well since all we can really say is "it's probably a comet even though it's doing a bunch of shit we've never seen comets do, but still probably a comet, just a weird comet". |
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Originally Posted By builderbob12: if its got a jet outward is it maneuvering Cometary tails are formed by venting gas/jets. |
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Originally Posted By builderbob12: if its got a jet outward is it maneuvering Regardless of jets and any other observations that may or may not match what comets typically do, I would imagine that enough propulsion acceleration to appreciably alter it's current interstellar velocity and vector would be immediately apparent to everyone watching. |
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Originally Posted By builderbob12: if its got a jet outward is it maneuvering If they've gotten the technology tgo get to here from wherever, they likely would have run out of fuel if using a reaction engine for maneuvering., unless it's just totally a random comet wondering past and the sun warmth caused a couple jets to open up in odd stpots. I don't have a better answer or really a plausible theory. If they have the tech to aim and get nice imaging shots from who knows how far away, but they don' have the other features lie antigrav to jump around or something? Maybe our tech level is the highest it can get and we're seeing an artifact from an age of people that died out long ago or a random chunk of stuff entirely naturally created and there's no boogie man. |
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Originally Posted By brass: If they've gotten the technology tgo get to here from wherever, they likely would have run out of fuel if using a reaction engine for maneuvering., unless it's just totally a random comet wondering past and the sun warmth caused a couple jets to open up in odd stpots. I don't have a better answer or really a plausible theory. If they have the tech to aim and get nice imaging shots from who knows how far away, but they don' have the other features lie antigrav to jump around or something? Maybe our tech level is the highest it can get and we're seeing an artifact from an age of people that died out long ago or a random chunk of stuff entirely naturally created and there's no boogie man. Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By builderbob12: if its got a jet outward is it maneuvering If they've gotten the technology tgo get to here from wherever, they likely would have run out of fuel if using a reaction engine for maneuvering., unless it's just totally a random comet wondering past and the sun warmth caused a couple jets to open up in odd stpots. I don't have a better answer or really a plausible theory. If they have the tech to aim and get nice imaging shots from who knows how far away, but they don' have the other features lie antigrav to jump around or something? Maybe our tech level is the highest it can get and we're seeing an artifact from an age of people that died out long ago or a random chunk of stuff entirely naturally created and there's no boogie man. Rogan made a comment regarding 3iAtlas and I'm paraphrasing: "I want to meet the most advanced aliens that can teleport and shit, not a bunch of space Vikings who are riding on a big rock looking for somewhere to pillage." It's a big ol' universe and assuming every civilization capable of space travel is going to be equally capable is, to quote a well-known Vulcan, illogical. |
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Originally Posted By Cypher214: Or these guys are the Pakistanis of the universe and they ghetto-rigged a chunk of rock with some thrusters and a life support system. Rogan made a comment regarding 3iAtlas and I'm paraphrasing: "I want to meet the most advanced aliens that can teleport and shit, not a bunch of space Vikings who are riding on a big rock looking for somewhere to pillage." It's a big ol' universe and assuming every civilization capable of space travel is going to be equally capable is, to quote a well-known Vulcan, illogical. Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By builderbob12: if its got a jet outward is it maneuvering If they've gotten the technology tgo get to here from wherever, they likely would have run out of fuel if using a reaction engine for maneuvering., unless it's just totally a random comet wondering past and the sun warmth caused a couple jets to open up in odd stpots. I don't have a better answer or really a plausible theory. If they have the tech to aim and get nice imaging shots from who knows how far away, but they don' have the other features lie antigrav to jump around or something? Maybe our tech level is the highest it can get and we're seeing an artifact from an age of people that died out long ago or a random chunk of stuff entirely naturally created and there's no boogie man. Rogan made a comment regarding 3iAtlas and I'm paraphrasing: "I want to meet the most advanced aliens that can teleport and shit, not a bunch of space Vikings who are riding on a big rock looking for somewhere to pillage." It's a big ol' universe and assuming every civilization capable of space travel is going to be equally capable is, to quote a well-known Vulcan, illogical. It's not like we have a bunch to choose from. I mean with the possibility of the Bible being from us to us, (possibly at the encouragement of a different species if wanting to keep it as a unified theory.), that would make one well known interaction total. In all of history (well, in the past 8000 years), we made notes to ourselves of what to do and what not to do and then thought we knew better than the stupid us so they did the same thing in a slightly different way in a slightly different spot. No matter what they do, history keeps repeating itself. That's probably why we have all these pyramids around the world. That's the adolescent teenage emo angst version of us trying the exact same thing over and over, just in a different spot. |
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Originally Posted By brass: It's not like we have a bunch to choose from. I mean with the possibility of the Bible being from us to us, (possibly at the encouragement of a different species if wanting to keep it as a unified theory.), that would make one well known interaction total. In all of history (well, in the past 8000 years), we made notes to ourselves of what to do and what not to do and then thought we knew better than the stupid us so they did the same thing in a slightly different way in a slightly different spot. No matter what they do, history keeps repeating itself. That's probably why we have all these pyramids around the world. That's the adolescent teenage emo angst version of us trying the exact same thing over and over, just in a different spot. Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Cypher214: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By builderbob12: if its got a jet outward is it maneuvering If they've gotten the technology tgo get to here from wherever, they likely would have run out of fuel if using a reaction engine for maneuvering., unless it's just totally a random comet wondering past and the sun warmth caused a couple jets to open up in odd stpots. I don't have a better answer or really a plausible theory. If they have the tech to aim and get nice imaging shots from who knows how far away, but they don' have the other features lie antigrav to jump around or something? Maybe our tech level is the highest it can get and we're seeing an artifact from an age of people that died out long ago or a random chunk of stuff entirely naturally created and there's no boogie man. Rogan made a comment regarding 3iAtlas and I'm paraphrasing: "I want to meet the most advanced aliens that can teleport and shit, not a bunch of space Vikings who are riding on a big rock looking for somewhere to pillage." It's a big ol' universe and assuming every civilization capable of space travel is going to be equally capable is, to quote a well-known Vulcan, illogical. It's not like we have a bunch to choose from. I mean with the possibility of the Bible being from us to us, (possibly at the encouragement of a different species if wanting to keep it as a unified theory.), that would make one well known interaction total. In all of history (well, in the past 8000 years), we made notes to ourselves of what to do and what not to do and then thought we knew better than the stupid us so they did the same thing in a slightly different way in a slightly different spot. No matter what they do, history keeps repeating itself. That's probably why we have all these pyramids around the world. That's the adolescent teenage emo angst version of us trying the exact same thing over and over, just in a different spot. She showed numerous photos of sites with tens of thousands of mud bricks all strewn around and the landscape certainly looks like someone excavated the area in antiquity. She postulated that the ancient Egyptians dug up several megalithic sites that were purposely buried by a previous culture and repurposed them, instead of the mainstream version that says the Egyptians built the structures and the mud bricks are just later renovations. She also said if that's the case, it could well be that the shitty mud brick pyramids were built just to cover an existing structure, which makes perfect sense given the tunnels and such that are underneath the piles of mud bricks and the megalithic interiors of some of the crappy pyramids. According to accepted dating, there's a 7,000 year gap between the construction of Gobekli Tepi and the Step Pyramid of Djoser (surprise, it's a megalithic structure covered by smaller stones). That's a massive shitload of time for a megalithic culture to spread out and build multiple other sites, even if one assumes Gobekli Tepi was their first build. We desperately need a time machine to figure out why the megalithic cultures buried their shit after spending all the time and effort on construction. Maybe they figured out a way to leave this planet and wanted to hide/protect their sites in case they returned, or they somehow knew shit was about to get bad and they had enough warning to bury their treasured structures. |
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Quick "back to reality" question, as I haven't been following it lately (52+hour work week): Despite the "jets," has it slowed down or changed course in any significant manner? Or is it still on course to streak through our system at 130,000mph, in the same trajectory as it entered? |
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Originally Posted By Kagetora:
Quick "back to reality" question, as I haven't been following it lately (52+hour work week): Despite the "jets," has it slowed down or changed course in any significant manner? Or is it still on course to streak through our system at 130,000mph, in the same trajectory as it entered? |