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A jab so good they had to push every which way they could to make people take it... It was like giving treats to dogs for following orders......bonuses to the mafia .......and then loaded people on box cars to keep their jobs.....  CoC to all these fucktards pushing this shit and may it be slow and painful. |
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Originally Posted By Cudahogs: Gonna go out on a limb here but I'm mostly certain large, private industry was also "incentivized" to push the jab too. I honestly can't think of another good reason that executives were pushing this hard for the jab. Could it be that based on actual data about infection rates, hospitalization costs, etc. Anthem's actuaries calculated that the company could save money by having as many of its customers in Kentucky vaccinated as possible? |
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Vaccine results will be based on Covid vaccine “claim” or Kentucky Vaccine registry. Actuaries must have been busy parsing the 4-5 months of “vaccine” data on the fly or this was generated without any results….just high hopes. |
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Originally Posted By California_Kid: Could it be that based on actual data about infection rates, hospitalization costs, etc. Anthem's actuaries calculated that the company could save money by having as many of its customers in Kentucky vaccinated as possible? Originally Posted By California_Kid: Originally Posted By Cudahogs: Gonna go out on a limb here but I'm mostly certain large, private industry was also "incentivized" to push the jab too. I honestly can't think of another good reason that executives were pushing this hard for the jab. Could it be that based on actual data about infection rates, hospitalization costs, etc. Anthem's actuaries calculated that the company could save money by having as many of its customers in Kentucky vaccinated as possible? |
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Originally Posted By S13: Except the numbers dont show that. Originally Posted By S13: Originally Posted By California_Kid: Originally Posted By Cudahogs: Gonna go out on a limb here but I'm mostly certain large, private industry was also "incentivized" to push the jab too. I honestly can't think of another good reason that executives were pushing this hard for the jab. Except the numbers dont show that. Source? Analysis by Kaiser Family Foundation shows that a hospitalization averages $41,611. https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/cost-of-covid-19-hospital-admissions-among-people-with-private-health-coverage/ |
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Originally Posted By California_Kid: Source? Analysis by Kaiser Family Foundation shows that a hospitalization averages $41,611. https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/cost-of-covid-19-hospital-admissions-among-people-with-private-health-coverage/ Originally Posted By California_Kid: Originally Posted By S13: Originally Posted By California_Kid: Originally Posted By Cudahogs: Gonna go out on a limb here but I'm mostly certain large, private industry was also "incentivized" to push the jab too. I honestly can't think of another good reason that executives were pushing this hard for the jab. Except the numbers dont show that. Source? Analysis by Kaiser Family Foundation shows that a hospitalization averages $41,611. https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/cost-of-covid-19-hospital-admissions-among-people-with-private-health-coverage/ It doesn't bother you one bit that "prize' money is given out for more of a drug being put into people? |
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Originally Posted By S13: Lol, there are sources out the wazoo in this forum. It doesn't bother you one bit that "prize' money is given out for more of a drug being put into people? If you have a source that you feel is more reliable for the average cost of a COVID-19 hospitalization, please present it. Go back and read my original reply. Everything a well-run business does is in the interest of profit. |
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Originally Posted By California_Kid: If you have a source that you feel is more reliable for the average cost of a COVID-19 hospitalization, please present it. Go back and read my original reply. Everything a well-run business does is in the interest of profit. Originally Posted By California_Kid: Originally Posted By S13: Lol, there are sources out the wazoo in this forum. It doesn't bother you one bit that "prize' money is given out for more of a drug being put into people? If you have a source that you feel is more reliable for the average cost of a COVID-19 hospitalization, please present it. Go back and read my original reply. Everything a well-run business does is in the interest of profit. So, no? |
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Originally Posted By NotTheUsual: So, no? Originally Posted By NotTheUsual: Originally Posted By California_Kid: Originally Posted By S13: Lol, there are sources out the wazoo in this forum. It doesn't bother you one bit that "prize' money is given out for more of a drug being put into people? If you have a source that you feel is more reliable for the average cost of a COVID-19 hospitalization, please present it. Go back and read my original reply. Everything a well-run business does is in the interest of profit. So, no? No, that doesn't necessarily "bother" me. Insurance companies do lots of things to minimize their risk. Handing out cash as a reward for vaccinating more clients isn't inherently wrong. See reply #6. |
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Originally Posted By California_Kid: No, that doesn't necessarily "bother" me. Insurance companies do lots of things to minimize their risk. Handing out cash as a reward for vaccinating more clients isn't inherently wrong. See reply #6. Originally Posted By California_Kid: Originally Posted By NotTheUsual: Originally Posted By California_Kid: Originally Posted By S13: Lol, there are sources out the wazoo in this forum. It doesn't bother you one bit that "prize' money is given out for more of a drug being put into people? If you have a source that you feel is more reliable for the average cost of a COVID-19 hospitalization, please present it. Go back and read my original reply. Everything a well-run business does is in the interest of profit. So, no? No, that doesn't necessarily "bother" me. Insurance companies do lots of things to minimize their risk. Handing out cash as a reward for vaccinating more clients isn't inherently wrong. See reply #6. Thanks, I was really curious to know how you felt about FFS / PMPM modifiers or any real monetary incentivization of procedures, especially non approved procedures. I ... disagree, because you end up having the bias of every corporation be in favor of maximizing revenue at the cost of patient care or safety. Especially when you know your ass is covered due to clinical guidelines, current 'approved' research, and the current cultural zeitgest, and the current amnesia with the concept of personalized risk. Really does tell me all I needed to know. For the record, I ... disagree. I think that entire part of the industry needs to be nuked from orbit, but it's too late. It's easy as pie to justify any and all procedures due to the cost savings, if you just ignore how risk actually works or only use 'approved' and 'authoritative' sources. If we were doing that, it'd be a no brainer to financially incentivize transitioning minors. If a suicide attempt is ~80k per event, there's a hell of a lot of cost savings in making sure anyone that even might be transgender is transitioned as early as possible. |
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Originally Posted By California_Kid: No, that doesn't necessarily "bother" me. Insurance companies do lots of things to minimize their risk. Handing out cash as a reward for vaccinating more clients isn't inherently wrong. See reply #6. Too bad this wasn't a vaccine and didn't vaccinate anyone. After all that's come out about the inefficacy and dangers of this shot, the fact that you're ok with companies monetizing the injecting of this experimental gene therapy bullshit speaks volumes. |
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Here’s another way Insurance saves money….an EUA requires there be no viable treatment so hospitals stiff arm Covid sufferers and they die at home. Prophylactic treatments with Ivermectin (a Nobel Prize winning drug, considered “essential” by the WHO) hydroxychlororquine, Vitamin C and D mega dosing were discouraged to the point of threatening doctors licensing. Attached File So yes, death saves insurance money especially if you’re older….well, “health” insurance….not life insurance |
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Originally Posted By California_Kid: Could it be that based on actual data about infection rates, hospitalization costs, etc. Anthem's actuaries calculated that the company could save money by having as many of its customers in Kentucky vaccinated as possible? Lol sure, that's it. And I bet you've sent money to a Nigerian prince at some point in your life. |
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Surprise surprise...... You don't have to be very intelligent or have really any educational pedigree to correctly know that: pushing an experimental genetic modification injection on people over an illness that is not at all very dangerous is a horrible, horrible idea. It was obvious. Totally, completely obvious. A no brainer. So why were the supposedly highly intelligent docs with such distinguished educational pedigrees behaving in such an idiotic way? Why did it seems like they thew all of their medical knowledge out the window? That was also pretty fucking obvious at the time, too. And the document in the OP outlines one of the reasons why. |
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Originally Posted By Laredo: Surprise surprise...... You don't have to be very intelligent or have really any educational pedigree to correctly know that: pushing an experimental genetic modification injection on people over an illness that is not at all very dangerous is a horrible, horrible idea. It was obvious. Totally, completely obvious. A no brainer. So why were the supposedly highly intelligent docs with such distinguished educational pedigrees behaving in such an idiotic way? Why did it seems like they thew all of their medical knowledge out the window? That was also pretty fucking obvious at the time, too. And the document in the OP outlines one of the reasons why. |
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Originally Posted By S13: For libs, ideology trumps professionalism Ideology, money, social acceptance, institutional pressure.....turns out all of those things combined outweigh the truth and doing the right thing BY A LOT for most people. Libs definitely--they revel and delight in it. But plenty of "conservatives" too. They make different justifications and their lines of bullshit are different and sound a little bit better, but they are making the exact same trade as the disgusting leftists a lot of the time. |
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Originally Posted By nightstalker: Vaccine results will be based on Covid vaccine “claim” or Kentucky Vaccine registry. Actuaries must have been busy parsing the 4-5 months of “vaccine” data on the fly or this was generated without any results….just high hopes. It was under Medicaid so there might be externalities. Like say the Feds via CMS. And they weren’t alone. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By California_Kid: Source? Analysis by Kaiser Family Foundation shows that a hospitalization averages $41,611. https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/cost-of-covid-19-hospital-admissions-among-people-with-private-health-coverage/ Originally Posted By California_Kid: Originally Posted By S13: Originally Posted By California_Kid: Originally Posted By Cudahogs: Gonna go out on a limb here but I'm mostly certain large, private industry was also "incentivized" to push the jab too. I honestly can't think of another good reason that executives were pushing this hard for the jab. Except the numbers dont show that. Source? Analysis by Kaiser Family Foundation shows that a hospitalization averages $41,611. https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/cost-of-covid-19-hospital-admissions-among-people-with-private-health-coverage/  The data is before alternative treatments existed and doesn’t reflect Medicare or Medicaid coverage. Given age is a huge correlation factor with COVID severity, the lack of utilization data makes this of little value besides generating headlines. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By NotTheUsual: Thanks, I was really curious to know how you felt about FFS / PMPM modifiers or any real monetary incentivization of procedures, especially non approved procedures. I ... disagree, because you end up having the bias of every corporation be in favor of maximizing revenue at the cost of patient care or safety. Especially when you know your ass is covered due to clinical guidelines, current 'approved' research, and the current cultural zeitgest, and the current amnesia with the concept of personalized risk. Really does tell me all I needed to know. For the record, I ... disagree. I think that entire part of the industry needs to be nuked from orbit, but it's too late. It's easy as pie to justify any and all procedures due to the cost savings, if you just ignore how risk actually works or only use 'approved' and 'authoritative' sources. If we were doing that, it'd be a no brainer to financially incentivize transitioning minors. If a suicide attempt is ~80k per event, there's a hell of a lot of cost savings in making sure anyone that even might be transgender is transitioned as early as possible. Originally Posted By NotTheUsual: Originally Posted By California_Kid: Originally Posted By NotTheUsual: Originally Posted By California_Kid: Originally Posted By S13: Lol, there are sources out the wazoo in this forum. It doesn't bother you one bit that "prize' money is given out for more of a drug being put into people? If you have a source that you feel is more reliable for the average cost of a COVID-19 hospitalization, please present it. Go back and read my original reply. Everything a well-run business does is in the interest of profit. So, no? No, that doesn't necessarily "bother" me. Insurance companies do lots of things to minimize their risk. Handing out cash as a reward for vaccinating more clients isn't inherently wrong. See reply #6. Thanks, I was really curious to know how you felt about FFS / PMPM modifiers or any real monetary incentivization of procedures, especially non approved procedures. I ... disagree, because you end up having the bias of every corporation be in favor of maximizing revenue at the cost of patient care or safety. Especially when you know your ass is covered due to clinical guidelines, current 'approved' research, and the current cultural zeitgest, and the current amnesia with the concept of personalized risk. Really does tell me all I needed to know. For the record, I ... disagree. I think that entire part of the industry needs to be nuked from orbit, but it's too late. It's easy as pie to justify any and all procedures due to the cost savings, if you just ignore how risk actually works or only use 'approved' and 'authoritative' sources. If we were doing that, it'd be a no brainer to financially incentivize transitioning minors. If a suicide attempt is ~80k per event, there's a hell of a lot of cost savings in making sure anyone that even might be transgender is transitioned as early as possible. Evidently, it's a completely indefensible position.  |