Computer GPU/CPU/tech Mega Thread Based on new NVidia/AMD launches in 2025 and beyond. (Page 2 of 47)
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Originally Posted By CavScout: Yeah right, the 5090 is twice the power! Sure sure. So I should get 80-100 FPS on MSFS 2024 in VR with everything maxed out? Bet is on. If it bumps my stock up, I will be okay with these new GPU’s but if it is just BS marketing as usual? I guess it won’t change my day or my week LOL. Typically they claim twice the performance at the same power usage. |
Sold this Gigabyte 4080 Super literally yesterday for $1100 (what I paid for it) - Gonna break out my trusty ole' EVGA 2080 until the 5090's are in the wild. Feel like that was great timing for sure. Jensen might have just killed 40 series resale!
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12VHPWR standard and connector lives on. Time for a new Seasonic PSU is in the future for me for the new build. Be careful with the cables, and connectors you use, especially if you are using 90 degree adaptors for these new(er) card connection standards. Also the room you compute in is better if its on a 20a circuit versus 15a. I wish i was on a 20a circuit for overhead for peripherals in the room.  12VHPWR is a Dumpster Fire | Investigation into Contradicting Specs & Corner Cutting |
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Originally Posted By JLAudio: 12VHPWR standard and connector lives on. Time for a new Seasonic PSU is in the future for me for the new build. Be careful with the cables, and connectors you use, especially if you are using 90 degree adaptors for these new(er) card connection standards. Also the room you compute in is better if its on a 20a circuit versus 15a. I wish i was on a 20a circuit for overhead for peripherals in the room.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y36LMS5y34AAnd don't use any type of cable extension or adapter. Use PSU's that support it natively and ensure it's firmly clicked in. |
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Originally Posted By JLAudio: PNY XLR8 with a factory overclock is my current 4090, one of their custom PCB's with better cooling. I'll go with whatever is cheaper for the top card with a custom PCB since most are more similar than different but I'll wait until later in the year to buy since everything currently runs on 2k at 150+fps on 360hz+ screens. Asus or PNY most likely. Nvidia has a big car chip business: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/370258/Screenshot_2025-01-06_205441-3427578.jpg Originally Posted By JLAudio: Originally Posted By JustinU235: What board partner is everyone going with? For me, now that EVGA is out, probably Asus but am considering PNY since that's where Kingpin went. PNY XLR8 with a factory overclock is my current 4090, one of their custom PCB's with better cooling. I'll go with whatever is cheaper for the top card with a custom PCB since most are more similar than different but I'll wait until later in the year to buy since everything currently runs on 2k at 150+fps on 360hz+ screens. Asus or PNY most likely. Nvidia has a big car chip business: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/370258/Screenshot_2025-01-06_205441-3427578.jpg I'm looking for an X870 back connect style MB. So far, ASUS & MSI have teased them. ASUS is supposed to be announcing theirs at this show, but has lost a lot of credibility recently. Waiting to see if MSI throws down. |
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Originally Posted By EDL: 5070 = 4090? Lol...not. Memes are already out and we dont even have any real world testing yet. What game/resolution/FG vs multi frame gen? Way to many variables still. Jan 30th. Cant wait for the embargoes to lift. They said the same thing last gen, and like for like the uplift wasnt that high. Will the new memory and architecture really make that much difference. Im happy we are finally getting pcie 5.0 support though. In the meantime   RTX 4090 Owners reaction to the reveal of RTX 5070 |
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Originally Posted By EDL: 5070 = 4090? Lol...not. Correct. RTX4090 is ~70% faster than the RTX4070 @ 1440p according to TPU. Nvidia's own charts show that the RTX5070 is <50% faster than the RTX4070 with RT and DLSS3. The only games that are 2x the performance of a RTX4070 is the DLSS4 games due to the use of MFG (multi frame generation) which means they add 2 extra fake frames rather than only 1. 
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Originally Posted By Archtaan: Memes are already out and we dont even have any real world testing yet. What game/resolution/FG vs multi frame gen? Way to many variables still. Jan 30th. Cant wait for the embargoes to lift. They said the same thing last gen, and like for like the uplift wasnt that high. Will the new memory and architecture really make that much difference. Im happy we are finally getting pcie 5.0 support though. In the meantime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Far7GJch2KA 
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Originally Posted By Archtaan: Memes are already out and we dont even have any real world testing yet. What game/resolution/FG vs multi frame gen? Way to many variables still. Jan 30th. Cant wait for the embargoes to lift. In the meantime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Far7GJch2KAOriginally Posted By Archtaan: Originally Posted By EDL: 5070 = 4090? Lol...not. Memes are already out and we dont even have any real world testing yet. What game/resolution/FG vs multi frame gen? Way to many variables still. Jan 30th. Cant wait for the embargoes to lift. In the meantime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Far7GJch2KAAnyone that takes 1st party claims seriously is an idiot. There's not a tech company out there that doesn't cherry pick some stat they got under ideal controlled lab conditions, tout some big and substantial gains, and then ignore explaining the details. Apple does a better job with their charts and thats not saying much. And when these do launch you also have to take into account early drivers and game optimizations into account. AMD typically has poor launches but improves things through software quite a bit over time. Thats one of the reasons reviewers have an even harder time doing comparisons and reviews now is they really need to test multiple products all over again to get good current numbers and not re-use data they got at launch from another product two years ago. |
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Originally Posted By Rebel31: Anyone that takes 1st party claims seriously is an idiot. There's not a tech company out there that doesn't cherry pick some stat they got under ideal controlled lab conditions, tout some big and substantial gains, and then ignore explaining the details. Apple does a better job with their charts and thats not saying much. And when these do launch you also have to take into account early drivers and game optimizations into account. AMD typically has poor launches but improves things through software quite a bit over time. Thats one of the reasons reviewers have an even harder time doing comparisons and reviews now is they really need to test multiple products all over again to get good current numbers and not re-use data they got at launch from another product two years ago. You're absolutely right. Its like the Intel B580, 1st reviews were pretty solid, but as its getting out there in the wild, users are not getting the performance that were made during 1st claims. Things that werent accounted for like slow memory, out dated CPU's and such that didnt match the picked test machines. |
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Originally Posted By Archtaan: Memes are already out and we dont even have any real world testing yet. What game/resolution/FG vs multi frame gen? Way to many variables still. Jan 30th. Cant wait for the embargoes to lift. They said the same thing last gen, and like for like the uplift wasnt that high. Will the new memory and architecture really make that much difference. Im happy we are finally getting pcie 5.0 support though. In the meantime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Far7GJch2KALol the internet and memes are undefeated Still keeping the 4090 until things shake out since every new nvidia card generation needs to figure out its issues. Still buying NVDA because they are clearly dominating pretty much everywhere. Trump should get close with Jensen and seriously discuss moving manufacturing on-shore from Taiwan. 2nd largest market cap US based company, soon to be first, partnering with the US to onshore manufacturing would be a crazy Trump move and move markets worldwide. |
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Originally Posted By JLAudio: Lol the internet and memes are undefeated Still keeping the 4090 until things shake out since every new nvidia card generation needs to figure out its issues. Still buying NVDA because they are clearly dominating pretty much everywhere. Trump should get close with Jensen and seriously discuss moving manufacturing on-shore from Taiwan. 2nd largest market cap US based company, soon to be first, partnering with the US to onshore manufacturing would be a crazy Trump move and move markets worldwide. Originally Posted By JLAudio: Originally Posted By Archtaan: Memes are already out and we dont even have any real world testing yet. What game/resolution/FG vs multi frame gen? Way to many variables still. Jan 30th. Cant wait for the embargoes to lift. They said the same thing last gen, and like for like the uplift wasnt that high. Will the new memory and architecture really make that much difference. Im happy we are finally getting pcie 5.0 support though. In the meantime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Far7GJch2KALol the internet and memes are undefeated Still keeping the 4090 until things shake out since every new nvidia card generation needs to figure out its issues. Still buying NVDA because they are clearly dominating pretty much everywhere. Trump should get close with Jensen and seriously discuss moving manufacturing on-shore from Taiwan. 2nd largest market cap US based company, soon to be first, partnering with the US to onshore manufacturing would be a crazy Trump move and move markets worldwide. That is WAY harder than it sounds and we do produce chips here. Chips and other computer components are the new mutually assured destruction. China losing assembly and Taiwan losing TSMC plus other companies would set humanity back by generations overnight. |
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Originally Posted By JustinU235: What board partner is everyone going with? For me, now that EVGA is out, probably Asus but am considering PNY since that's where Kingpin went. The only PNY GPU I owned had a chip just de-solder itself one day and fall off the board. It was a brick after that. I always buy Gigabyte cards since I've never had a problem with anything Gigabyte ever. |
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Originally Posted By Rebel31: That is WAY harder than it sounds and we do produce chips here. Chips and other computer components are the new mutually assured destruction. China losing assembly and Taiwan losing TSMC plus other companies would set humanity back by generations overnight. That's why it's a market making move
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Originally Posted By MeatBag: I can say that it's clear the dystopian AI future is coming soon The other option several years ago was that PC's would basically become streaming devices for cloud gaming  I am actually happy that most of those projects have failed 
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Originally Posted By JustinU235: RTX 5090: $1999. Twice the power of 4090.* RTX 5080: $999 RTX 5070Ti: $749 RTX 5070: $549. 4090 performance.* That being said, we'll see what they come in at street, because they're all probably going to get scalped to hell again. |
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Originally Posted By MeatBag: I can say that it's clear the dystopian AI future is coming soon Originally Posted By MeatBag: I can say that it's clear the dystopian AI future is coming soon Originally Posted By JustinU235: I paid more for my 3080ti than the price mentioned for the 5080 Same, and I'm probably going to have to settle for a 5080 this time around. It would be tough to justify spending $2,000 right now nominally. A 5090 won't fit in my case though, and I don't have a big enough PSU, so buying one would necessitate additional costs on top of that. |
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Originally Posted By JustinU235: I paid more for my 3080ti than the price mentioned for the 5080, which is my target card. |
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I'll grab whatever board partner 5090 I can get with a CLC from the factory, but I would probably settle for an air cooled Strix version out of desperation. Hopefully it won't take months after release to see these at Microcenter. With the 5090 having a TDP of 575w, I'm wondering how much OC potential there will be w/o updating the bios. |
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I have been waiting for CES to see that new products are available for my new desktop. I am thinking of the 5070, once tested, it should spank my almost 7 year old RS 580 that I using right now. |
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I intend on camping out at Marietta GA Microcenter. Anyone want to join me? I was considering a 5090, but it's way overkill for what I do. I've always been a XX80Ti guy, but it seems they don't do that anymore. Sure, they have the 5070Ti, but I was hoping to keep with the theme of 1080Ti, 2080Ti, 3080Ti...., So I'm going for the 5080. I may actually go for a Founders Edition vice a board partner this time. I like the look and I never OC my GPU, it would feet in better with my cleaner recent build which has no RGB in it. |
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Originally Posted By JustinU235: I intend on camping out at Marietta GA Microcenter. Anyone want to join me? I was considering a 5090, but it's way overkill for what I do. I've always been a XX80Ti guy, but it seems they don't do that anymore. Sure, they have the 5070Ti, but I was hoping to keep with the theme of 1080Ti, 2080Ti, 3080Ti...., So I'm going for the 5080. I may actually go for a Founders Edition vice a board partner this time. I like the look and I never OC my GPU, it would feet in better with my cleaner recent build which has no RGB in it. I'm shocked they haven't opened a Microcenter in Nashville yet. At least they didn't buy a plot of land and then continue to sit on it for a decade like they did up here.. The only bottleneck I hit on my 3080ti is the 12Gb vram. I would have absolutely loved to see the 5080 come with more than 16gb as that would have been an instant buy in my book. I'll have to see how performance actually plays out in stuff like VR Flight Sim before slapping money down. 5090 would be the nuclear option but $2-2.5k price tag they'll end up at is a huge hurdle to come up with a justification for. |
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Originally Posted By Ayada: I'm shocked they haven't opened a Microcenter in Nashville yet. At least they didn't buy a plot of land and then continue to sit on it for a decade like they did up here.. The only bottleneck I hit on my 3080ti is the 12Gb vram. I would have absolutely loved to see the 5080 come with more than 16gb as that would have been an instant buy in my book. I'll have to see how performance actually plays out in stuff like VR Flight Sim before slapping money down. 5090 would be the nuclear option but $2-2.5k price tag they'll end up at is a huge hurdle to come up with a justification for. Originally Posted By Ayada: Originally Posted By JustinU235: I intend on camping out at Marietta GA Microcenter. Anyone want to join me? I was considering a 5090, but it's way overkill for what I do. I've always been a XX80Ti guy, but it seems they don't do that anymore. Sure, they have the 5070Ti, but I was hoping to keep with the theme of 1080Ti, 2080Ti, 3080Ti...., So I'm going for the 5080. I may actually go for a Founders Edition vice a board partner this time. I like the look and I never OC my GPU, it would feet in better with my cleaner recent build which has no RGB in it. I'm shocked they haven't opened a Microcenter in Nashville yet. At least they didn't buy a plot of land and then continue to sit on it for a decade like they did up here.. The only bottleneck I hit on my 3080ti is the 12Gb vram. I would have absolutely loved to see the 5080 come with more than 16gb as that would have been an instant buy in my book. I'll have to see how performance actually plays out in stuff like VR Flight Sim before slapping money down. 5090 would be the nuclear option but $2-2.5k price tag they'll end up at is a huge hurdle to come up with a justification for. There will be 3GB GDDR7 modules soon, so I would expect Nvidia to release a 24GB 5080 Ti/Super in maybe a year. |
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Originally Posted By JustinU235: I intend on camping out at Marietta GA Microcenter. Anyone want to join me? I was considering a 5090, but it's way overkill for what I do. I've always been a XX80Ti guy, but it seems they don't do that anymore. Sure, they have the 5070Ti, but I was hoping to keep with the theme of 1080Ti, 2080Ti, 3080Ti...., So I'm going for the 5080. I may actually go for a Founders Edition vice a board partner this time. I like the look and I never OC my GPU, it would feet in better with my cleaner recent build which has no RGB in it. Im torn between going with the founders or going with Gigabyte again. (damn I miss EVGA) A 2 slot 5090 might look a bit small in my case and I really wonder if the thermals are going to be good with that design, hard to tell. I also dont OC my GPU. - I do like Gigabyte since they have a 4 year warranty on cards vs the normal 3. |
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Originally Posted By castlebravo84: There will be 3GB GDDR7 modules soon, so I would expect Nvidia to release a 24GB 5080 Ti/Super in maybe a year. Originally Posted By castlebravo84: Originally Posted By Ayada: Originally Posted By JustinU235: I intend on camping out at Marietta GA Microcenter. Anyone want to join me? I was considering a 5090, but it's way overkill for what I do. I've always been a XX80Ti guy, but it seems they don't do that anymore. Sure, they have the 5070Ti, but I was hoping to keep with the theme of 1080Ti, 2080Ti, 3080Ti...., So I'm going for the 5080. I may actually go for a Founders Edition vice a board partner this time. I like the look and I never OC my GPU, it would feet in better with my cleaner recent build which has no RGB in it. I'm shocked they haven't opened a Microcenter in Nashville yet. At least they didn't buy a plot of land and then continue to sit on it for a decade like they did up here.. The only bottleneck I hit on my 3080ti is the 12Gb vram. I would have absolutely loved to see the 5080 come with more than 16gb as that would have been an instant buy in my book. I'll have to see how performance actually plays out in stuff like VR Flight Sim before slapping money down. 5090 would be the nuclear option but $2-2.5k price tag they'll end up at is a huge hurdle to come up with a justification for. There will be 3GB GDDR7 modules soon, so I would expect Nvidia to release a 24GB 5080 Ti/Super in maybe a year. Nvidia has the RTX5090M listed as a GB203 with a 256bit bus and 24GB GDDR7, meaning that is the only model with 24Gb GDDR7 ICs. The GB203 in the RTX5080 is cut down slightly, so they will use that higher bin for the RTX5080Ti or w/e. It seems unlikely they will use the 24Gb GDDR7 since that would potentially cannibalize their GB202 384bit salvaged die. The GB202 has at least 4-5 different bins that they aren't using which is weird since I was expecting a 448bit part to be the RTX5090 since it is such a large die and it would help to be able to salvage a lower binned chip. I would assume a fully enabled GB202 with 48GB GDDR7 would be used for a Quadro/Tesla variant. |
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Holy Shit... the LTT hands-on RTX5090 shows some terrible artifacting on CP2077 with Nvidia's settings. Can't be 100% sure if it is due to the DLSS or just something buggy with a new build of CP2077 but I caught quite a few just watching the video normally that were major issues and not mentioned by Linus. Starts @ 4:46  I Was The FIRST To Game On The RTX 5090 - NVIDIA 50 Series Announcement |
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Originally Posted By Electricview: Damn.. I swear I just paid 599... Or was it 699? for a 3080 like 3 years ago? Now its a grand for the newer series similar 5080? sheesh.. Bidenomics .. MSRP was $699 for the 3080 but the founders edition at that price was unobtanium. The brands were selling 3080s damn near past $1k and the 3080ti was a $1600 card up until the supply caught up in a massive way and the prices fell through the roof in preparation for the 4000 series launch. Don't get me wrong, I do wish we were still back in the days of $600 cards being the envy of pc builders and not the 'well it's kind of like a 4090 if you use DLSS in these two games' option. |
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Originally Posted By Ayada: MSRP was $699 for the 3080 but the founders edition at that price was unobtanium. The brands were selling 3080s damn near past $1k and the 3080ti was a $1600 card up until the supply caught up in a massive way and the prices fell through the roof in preparation for the 4000 series launch. Don't get me wrong, I do wish we were still back in the days of $600 cards being the envy of pc builders and not the 'well it's kind of like a 4090 if you use DLSS in these two games' option. Originally Posted By Ayada: Originally Posted By Electricview: Damn.. I swear I just paid 599... Or was it 699? for a 3080 like 3 years ago? Now its a grand for the newer series similar 5080? sheesh.. Bidenomics .. MSRP was $699 for the 3080 but the founders edition at that price was unobtanium. The brands were selling 3080s damn near past $1k and the 3080ti was a $1600 card up until the supply caught up in a massive way and the prices fell through the roof in preparation for the 4000 series launch. Don't get me wrong, I do wish we were still back in the days of $600 cards being the envy of pc builders and not the 'well it's kind of like a 4090 if you use DLSS in these two games' option. I 'member when a $600 card was considered "insane." 
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Originally Posted By LordEC911: Holy Shit... the LTT hands-on RTX5090 shows some terrible artifacting on CP2077 with Nvidia's settings. Can't be 100% sure if it is due to the DLSS or just something buggy with a new build of CP2077 but I caught quite a few just watching the video normally that were major issues and not mentioned by Linus. Starts @ 4:46 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a8dScJg6O0I didn't watch the LTT video because I think LTT is trash, but Digital Foundry just put out a video on DLSS 4 and how it compares to current gen. There are definitely noticeable artifacts in CP2077, but the DF vid also shows some improvements in graphical fidelity. I'm hopeful that there will continue to be improvements in overall image quality, as there should be if people are going to drop $2k+ on a new card.  DLSS 4 on Nvidia RTX 5080 First Look: Super Res + Multi Frame-Gen on Cyberpunk 2077 RT Overdrive! |
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Originally Posted By LordEC911: Holy Shit... the LTT hands-on RTX5090 shows some terrible artifacting on CP2077 with Nvidia's settings. Can't be 100% sure if it is due to the DLSS or just something buggy with a new build of CP2077 but I caught quite a few just watching the video normally that were major issues and not mentioned by Linus. Starts @ 4:46 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a8dScJg6O0This is your future, gamers, at least if you want 4, or for whatever reason, 8k. A high frame rate, but mediocre visuals. |
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Originally Posted By Dam17er: I didn't watch the LTT video because I think LTT is trash, but Digital Foundry just put out a video on DLSS 4 and how it compares to current gen. There are definitely noticeable artifacts in CP2077, but the DF vid also shows some improvements in graphical fidelity. I'm hopeful that there will continue to be improvements in overall image quality, as there should be if people are going to drop $2k+ on a new card. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpzufsxtZpAI'm guessing the artifacting is a driver issue and that will get sorted out quickly. Early drivers are always buggy. |