Cincinnatus art… NEW PAINTING COMPLETE (Page 10, August 6) (Page 10 of 11)
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: A similar visual language to start. Just background. One-point perspective is compelling. What comes next will be completely different, aesthetically as well as content. A surprise. Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Here we go… https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285/IMG_0577-3794730.jpg This one looks strangely similar to the previous Owen. Can't wait to see what it turns into.  A similar visual language to start. Just background. One-point perspective is compelling. What comes next will be completely different, aesthetically as well as content. A surprise. Looking forward to it. |
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Background complete. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285/IMG_0586-3795919.jpg 96” x 45” Is this also going to be entirely poured or are you going to allow yourself some extras, seems you like mixed media, I do as well. The purists who think watercolor should only be water and scoff at the wildlife illustrators who use black gouache or other media for areas like eyes and the like can piss off. Just switching to mixed media opens a lot of doors even if you only use two things. I'm curious how you got the cloud top half, looks nearly airbrushed/spray gun misted white and blue, or if it was smaller I'd guess pastels. |
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Originally Posted By brass: Is this also going to be entirely poured or are you going to allow yourself some extras, seems you like mixed media, I do as well. The purists who think watercolor should only be water and scoff at the wildlife illustrators who use black gouache or other media for areas like eyes and the like can piss off. Just switching to mixed media opens a lot of doors even if you only use two things. I'm curious how you got the cloud top half, looks nearly airbrushed/spray gun misted white and blue, or if it was smaller I'd guess pastels. Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Background complete. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285/IMG_0586-3795919.jpg 96” x 45” Is this also going to be entirely poured or are you going to allow yourself some extras, seems you like mixed media, I do as well. The purists who think watercolor should only be water and scoff at the wildlife illustrators who use black gouache or other media for areas like eyes and the like can piss off. Just switching to mixed media opens a lot of doors even if you only use two things. I'm curious how you got the cloud top half, looks nearly airbrushed/spray gun misted white and blue, or if it was smaller I'd guess pastels. THAT picture is paint and dried pigment THIS one has spray paint:  No brushes. |
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: No brushes. That is a cool self imposed limitation to bring out creativity. The only glitch is on the bees but that's just small areas and paint pens aren't exactly brushes but they're not poured, kind of in grey area, but trying to do as much as possible without hard lines (difficult in anything smaller) is going to be really cool to see come together, just like the last one. Can't wait to see this one progress into something amazing! |
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Originally Posted By brass: That is a cool self imposed limitation to bring out creativity. The only glitch is on the bees but that's just small areas and paint pens aren't exactly brushes but they're not poured, kind of in grey area, but trying to do as much as possible without hard lines (difficult in anything smaller) is going to be really cool to see come together, just like the last one. Can't wait to see this one progress into something amazing! Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: No brushes. That is a cool self imposed limitation to bring out creativity. The only glitch is on the bees but that's just small areas and paint pens aren't exactly brushes but they're not poured, kind of in grey area, but trying to do as much as possible without hard lines (difficult in anything smaller) is going to be really cool to see come together, just like the last one. Can't wait to see this one progress into something amazing! Rules are meant to be broken. |
"…unrivaled fervor for killing..."
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Originally Posted By lukus: It's cool to see the way your art comes together. So do you have an idea of what you want to do and set up your canvas to fit that idea, or do you randomly build your frame and canvas and let it dictate your layout? Yes. Starts with a general idea. That dictates the size. Wood panel, not canvas. I have several ideas that are lined up in my head and ready to go. Some die on the vine. |
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Yes. Starts with a general idea. That dictates the size. Wood panel, not canvas. I have several ideas that are lined up in my head and ready to go. Some die on the vine. Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Originally Posted By lukus: It's cool to see the way your art comes together. So do you have an idea of what you want to do and set up your canvas to fit that idea, or do you randomly build your frame and canvas and let it dictate your layout? Yes. Starts with a general idea. That dictates the size. Wood panel, not canvas. I have several ideas that are lined up in my head and ready to go. Some die on the vine. Is the panel masonite, sanded plywood or other wood type? I'm guessing it needs gesso/primer just like canvas does. I never liked canvas, it was neat for one or two but the stetchers and preparation then having to dump hundreds into the framing was too far. That frustration seems to be a common theme after they did CT scans of famous artworks they see other paintings that were just painted over to re-use the canvas when the artist didn't like the result. I think Mona Lisa is one of those and a few other big name painters had erased or wildly different base paintings compared to what it turned out as. |
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Originally Posted By brass: Is the panel masonite, sanded plywood or other wood type? I'm guessing it needs gesso/primer just like canvas does. I never liked canvas, it was neat for one or two but the stetchers and preparation then having to dump hundreds into the framing was too far. That frustration seems to be a common theme after they did CT scans of famous artworks they see other paintings that were just painted over to re-use the canvas when the artist didn't like the result. I think Mona Lisa is one of those and a few other big name painters had erased or wildly different base paintings compared to what it turned out as. Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Originally Posted By lukus: It's cool to see the way your art comes together. So do you have an idea of what you want to do and set up your canvas to fit that idea, or do you randomly build your frame and canvas and let it dictate your layout? Yes. Starts with a general idea. That dictates the size. Wood panel, not canvas. I have several ideas that are lined up in my head and ready to go. Some die on the vine. Is the panel masonite, sanded plywood or other wood type? I'm guessing it needs gesso/primer just like canvas does. I never liked canvas, it was neat for one or two but the stetchers and preparation then having to dump hundreds into the framing was too far. That frustration seems to be a common theme after they did CT scans of famous artworks they see other paintings that were just painted over to re-use the canvas when the artist didn't like the result. I think Mona Lisa is one of those and a few other big name painters had erased or wildly different base paintings compared to what it turned out as. Straight up plywood. No prep to the surface other than MAYBE a little sanding. The color that covers the sky in this recent one (and others) is pure dry pigment, rubbed into the wood with a rag. Then sanded. Then more pigment, repeat. |
"…unrivaled fervor for killing..."
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: The color that covers the sky in this recent one (and others) is pure dry pigment, rubbed into the wood with a rag. Then sanded. Then more pigment, repeat. That explains why it looks like it was done with chalk pastels and a sponge or paper towel. Are you sue the paint will stick to it? Maybe hit with polyurethane matte to put a seal between try pigment dust and flowing paint? I always think about long term painting for things like cars and for art I use vellum or film between pages to keep it from smearing all over. The fixatives make the dry pigments take a quick turn to the darker shades. |
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Originally Posted By brass: That explains why it looks like it was done with chalk pastels and a sponge or paper towel. Are you sue the paint will stick to it? Maybe hit with polyurethane matte to put a seal between try pigment dust and flowing paint? I always think about long term painting for things like cars and for art I use vellum or film between pages to keep it from smearing all over. The fixatives make the dry pigments take a quick turn to the darker shades. Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: The color that covers the sky in this recent one (and others) is pure dry pigment, rubbed into the wood with a rag. Then sanded. Then more pigment, repeat. That explains why it looks like it was done with chalk pastels and a sponge or paper towel. Are you sue the paint will stick to it? Maybe hit with polyurethane matte to put a seal between try pigment dust and flowing paint? I always think about long term painting for things like cars and for art I use vellum or film between pages to keep it from smearing all over. The fixatives make the dry pigments take a quick turn to the darker shades. The paint sticks. At the end, the clear coat turns the pigment into paint. |
"…unrivaled fervor for killing..."
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: The paint sticks. At the end, the clear coat turns the pigment into paint. Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: The color that covers the sky in this recent one (and others) is pure dry pigment, rubbed into the wood with a rag. Then sanded. Then more pigment, repeat. That explains why it looks like it was done with chalk pastels and a sponge or paper towel. Are you sue the paint will stick to it? Maybe hit with polyurethane matte to put a seal between try pigment dust and flowing paint? I always think about long term painting for things like cars and for art I use vellum or film between pages to keep it from smearing all over. The fixatives make the dry pigments take a quick turn to the darker shades. The paint sticks. At the end, the clear coat turns the pigment into paint. Cool berans, very tolerant clear, I always crinkle because I don't' look at the label for MEK first. |
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: One week until it’s done. The “veteran art” shtick; PTSD, art as therapy thing gets old. War is and has always been a visceral human experience that artists who saw it tapped into. There are many great artists of the past who were veterans. 20th Century masters. It just wasn’t the focus. Millions of veterans out there now -probably thousands of artists in the ranks. But none are in the art world. Veteran artists are put in a ghetto. Hell, I have a BFA and an MFA from top schools. I lived as an artist in NYC, showed my work, had a massive studio, taught at the Museum of Modern Art… then 9/11 I went off to war and returned as an invisible man to that world. Fuck ‘em. Their art is gay.  Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285/IMG_0604-3798549.jpg Looks promising. Did you make the green darker or did the camera auto correct the color balance which makes the colors look different? HUGE SIdetrack: No color profile attached to your photo? When some use sRGB while others are looking at it in HDR the colors and brightness goes all weird. Look for color correction, all programs support it and windows has a quick calibration so that when you show a picture, everybody sees the same color since it can correct for the gamut you used and is included in the image header information. With HDR getting popular, some crazy stuff happens with colors and perceived brightness. ¹HDR High dynamic range (HDR), also known as wide dynamic range. 10x the range of brightness, 10x brighter in bright spots but still visible barely gray areas. They look fake bu they actually match how your eyes would see the scene if they were standing there. The problem is not everybody has a true HDR display since the full 10,000 Nit displays are still over $10,000, but there are 5000 Nit (brightness capable) in the affordable range and even the 2000 Nit is cheap with OLED now allowing more light intensity without turning a bunch of light into heat by blocking it. Most display everybody has now have bright white shown as 800 to 1 000 Nit. |
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Originally Posted By brass: Looks promising. Did you make the green darker or did the camera auto correct the color balance which makes the colors look different? HUGE SIdetrack: No color profile attached to your photo? When some use sRGB while others are looking at it in HDR the colors and brightness goes all weird. Look for color correction, all programs support it and windows has a quick calibration so that when you show a picture, everybody sees the same color since it can correct for the gamut you used and is included in the image header information. With HDR getting popular, some crazy stuff happens with colors and perceived brightness. ¹HDR High dynamic range (HDR), also known as wide dynamic range. 10x the range of brightness, 10x brighter in bright spots but still visible barely gray areas. They look fake bu they actually match how your eyes would see the scene if they were standing there. The problem is not everybody has a true HDR display since the full 10,000 Nit displays are still over $10,000, but there are 5000 Nit (brightness capable) in the affordable range and even the 2000 Nit is cheap with OLED now allowing more light intensity without turning a bunch of light into heat by blocking it. Most display everybody has now have bright white shown as 800 to 1 000 Nit. Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285/IMG_0604-3798549.jpg Looks promising. Did you make the green darker or did the camera auto correct the color balance which makes the colors look different? HUGE SIdetrack: No color profile attached to your photo? When some use sRGB while others are looking at it in HDR the colors and brightness goes all weird. Look for color correction, all programs support it and windows has a quick calibration so that when you show a picture, everybody sees the same color since it can correct for the gamut you used and is included in the image header information. With HDR getting popular, some crazy stuff happens with colors and perceived brightness. ¹HDR High dynamic range (HDR), also known as wide dynamic range. 10x the range of brightness, 10x brighter in bright spots but still visible barely gray areas. They look fake bu they actually match how your eyes would see the scene if they were standing there. The problem is not everybody has a true HDR display since the full 10,000 Nit displays are still over $10,000, but there are 5000 Nit (brightness capable) in the affordable range and even the 2000 Nit is cheap with OLED now allowing more light intensity without turning a bunch of light into heat by blocking it. Most display everybody has now have bright white shown as 800 to 1 000 Nit. 
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"…unrivaled fervor for killing..."
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Originally Posted By tortilla-flats: I'm getting a Pink Floyd vibe. I'm seeing more like a pig meeting his shadow done by Edvard Munch, but it's really early on here. |
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: “Wonderflesh, 1, 2 &3” 2002 Latex on aluminum. Each one is 5x6 feet. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285/IMG_9699-3681936.jpghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285/IMG_9698-3681937.jpghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285/IMG_9695-3681938.jpg Disturbing. Well done! |
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Almost done No creative update drops this time? I guess Guns762 is the only one who has that mastered. |
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Here we go… “Duelist” 2026, 97” x 45” https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285/IMG_0644-3807252.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285/IMG_0646-3807254.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285/IMG_0647-3807256.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285/IMG_0648-3807258.jpg Looks really cool! Quite abstract but relatable somehow at the same time. |
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Originally Posted By brass: Looks really cool! Quite abstract but relatable somehow at the same time. Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Here we go… “Duelist” 2026, 97” x 45” https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285/IMG_0644-3807252.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285/IMG_0646-3807254.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285/IMG_0647-3807256.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285/IMG_0648-3807258.jpg Looks really cool! Quite abstract but relatable somehow at the same time. You gotta dig an abstract blob bring electrocuted cartoon-style. |
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: You gotta dig an abstract blob bring electrocuted cartoon-style. You really sold the "electrocution" with the high contrast and fine filaments spreading out from the core super high contrast and showing it's linking to all creatures, even fleshy looking blobs. Itt's like there's nothing about them that directly looks like any sort of animal or creature, but at a glance, that reddish tan color on the left just sends into your head that it's some sort of living thing, and I can't decide what about it does that. The color is a big part, but the little blobs in the big blob try to convince you that it's not some creature but your brain argues "is too a critter! That'n o'er there's even got bones!" |
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Originally Posted By brass: You really sold the "electrocution" with the high contrast and fine filaments spreading out from the core super high contrast and showing it's linking to all creatures, even fleshy looking blobs. Itt's like there's nothing about them that directly looks like any sort of animal or creature, but at a glance, that reddish tan color on the left just sends into your head that it's some sort of living thing, and I can't decide what about it does that. The color is a big part, but the little blobs in the big blob try to convince you that it's not some creature but your brain argues "is too a critter! That'n o'er there's even got bones!" Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: You gotta dig an abstract blob bring electrocuted cartoon-style. You really sold the "electrocution" with the high contrast and fine filaments spreading out from the core super high contrast and showing it's linking to all creatures, even fleshy looking blobs. Itt's like there's nothing about them that directly looks like any sort of animal or creature, but at a glance, that reddish tan color on the left just sends into your head that it's some sort of living thing, and I can't decide what about it does that. The color is a big part, but the little blobs in the big blob try to convince you that it's not some creature but your brain argues "is too a critter! That'n o'er there's even got bones!" Eliminate the narrative for a moment. Treat it as abstract paint. Think it through. Look at history. Now come back and apply narrative |
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Eliminate the narrative for a moment. Treat it as abstract paint. Think it through. Look at history. Now come back and apply narrative Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: You gotta dig an abstract blob bring electrocuted cartoon-style. You really sold the "electrocution" with the high contrast and fine filaments spreading out from the core super high contrast and showing it's linking to all creatures, even fleshy looking blobs. Itt's like there's nothing about them that directly looks like any sort of animal or creature, but at a glance, that reddish tan color on the left just sends into your head that it's some sort of living thing, and I can't decide what about it does that. The color is a big part, but the little blobs in the big blob try to convince you that it's not some creature but your brain argues "is too a critter! That'n o'er there's even got bones!" Eliminate the narrative for a moment. Treat it as abstract paint. Think it through. Look at history. Now come back and apply narrative Quite Shocking. |
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I like the "Progress updates" better. Especially what the electrified vs soft and fleshy look like next to each other. 
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Soon… Yes, Mr. President. |
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