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1/22/2017 7:18:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Rodent][Edited] [#1]
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Originally Posted By ohiobr:

You don't happen to have a pair of Russell's hurons do you? 



Been eyeballing them for a while but haven't been able to decide between those or a pair of Quoddy Maliseets. 
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Originally Posted By ohiobr:

Originally Posted By Rodent:

Russell Moccasin Co. makes custom shoes and boots. They're expensive to buy, but a bargain in the long run. If/when the soles wear out, you can have Russell replace them. I have four pairs of Russell, and have come to the conclusion that will a minimum of care, the uppers will never wear out. At least not before I do.



One of their models is a chukka called the "Convention Walker". They're made specifically for standing and walking indoors on hard floors. Lightweight, with a springy kind of sole and a leather that breathes really well. They have a good outdoorsy/casual look, they go on and off much more easily than a boot, and they're as comfortable as socks. I've done those death-marches through airport customs thinking, "Wow, these shoes are really comfortable!"



http://www.russellmoccasin.com/russell-short-premier-convention-walker/
You don't happen to have a pair of Russell's hurons do you? 



Been eyeballing them for a while but haven't been able to decide between those or a pair of Quoddy Maliseets. 


I don't. I can't tell from the pic if they have a padded collar or not, that's an important detail for me.
"You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality."

Ayn Rand
5/20/2017 12:12:07 AM EDT
[#2]
Late to the party, but I wear a coat / tie or suit and a BLACK pair of these to work every day:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B011ELXV54?tag=vglnk-c102-20
5/20/2017 12:12:56 AM EDT
[#3]
Late to the party, but I wear a coat / tie or suit and a BLACK pair of these to work every day:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B011ELXV54?tag=vglnk-c102-20
6/2/2017 6:58:07 PM EDT
[#4]
Chelsea is dressier than a chukka so it kind of depends on what you declare business casual. Chinos and polos chukka would be fine. Wool/dress pants and button ups I'd go Chelsea. I have both and both serve their place in different things.
8/28/2017 2:59:11 PM EDT
[#5]
I just ordered a pair of Wolverine 1000 Mile boots that I plan to wear to work.  They should work with khakis, chinos or jeans. 
8/30/2017 7:51:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By OverScoped:

you must be a city slicker.

ever hear of dress cowboy boots?  I didn't think so.
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Dood.

"Panic sweeps my men when they are facing the AMERICAN MARINES."
-Captured North Korean Major

"Never get out of the boat."
- Chef
8/30/2017 8:20:17 PM EDT
[#7]
Step up and spend some of your hard earned money on the best damned shoes and boots that you will ever wear.


http://www.allenedmonds.com/shoes/mens-shoes/boots/
"This country is quickly being divided into two camps, the wimps and the warriors." - Sen. Zell Miller
8/30/2017 8:55:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NoVAR:


I used to buy AEs nearly exclusively, but after the results of their last trunk show [missed specs and poor finishing on tons of shell orders ($$)], poorly executed GMTOs I've been a part of, and the QC missteps I've seen on their first quality shoes I've moved on and am not looking back.  IMHO AE does make classic, albeit stodgy dress shoes.  At the same price point, I think Europe and Spain are miles ahead stylistically, which typically has nothing to do with construction, but is worth consideration.  Both brands I listed (Carmina and Carlos Santos) are also goodyear welted, but better finished, and with better leather.  IME the diversity of the lasts usually means anyone can find something that fits them.  Compared to some of AEs most popular lasts which I think are the ones that are hardest to fit.

When AE firsts were selling around $330 I agree it was hard to find other proper goodyear welted shoes at that price.  But now at $385, there's a lot more competition.  And less than $200 away are hand-welted options.  And now that AE's being bought by Caleres (owns Famous Footwear) who knows what's going to happen to their offerings

EDIT:  Justin Fitzpatrick footwear is another option that is "classic with a twist" from a style standpoint, but a superb value at less than AE first costs.
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Why are trunk shows, shell orders (cordovan?) and GMTOs?

Can these other companies properly rebuild your shoes for $150?

Seriously interested. Thanks
9/11/2017 1:57:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gthirteen:
Why are trunk shows, shell orders (cordovan?) and GMTOs?

Can these other companies properly rebuild your shoes for $150?

Seriously interested. Thanks
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Originally Posted By Gthirteen:
Originally Posted By NoVAR:


I used to buy AEs nearly exclusively, but after the results of their last trunk show [missed specs and poor finishing on tons of shell orders ($)], poorly executed GMTOs I've been a part of, and the QC missteps I've seen on their first quality shoes I've moved on and am not looking back.  IMHO AE does make classic, albeit stodgy dress shoes.  At the same price point, I think Europe and Spain are miles ahead stylistically, which typically has nothing to do with construction, but is worth consideration.  Both brands I listed (Carmina and Carlos Santos) are also goodyear welted, but better finished, and with better leather.  IME the diversity of the lasts usually means anyone can find something that fits them.  Compared to some of AEs most popular lasts which I think are the ones that are hardest to fit.

When AE firsts were selling around $330 I agree it was hard to find other proper goodyear welted shoes at that price.  But now at $385, there's a lot more competition.  And less than $200 away are hand-welted options.  And now that AE's being bought by Caleres (owns Famous Footwear) who knows what's going to happen to their offerings

EDIT:  Justin Fitzpatrick footwear is another option that is "classic with a twist" from a style standpoint, but a superb value at less than AE first costs.
Why are trunk shows, shell orders (cordovan?) and GMTOs?

Can these other companies properly rebuild your shoes for $150?

Seriously interested. Thanks
Trunk show is a limited-access display event for merchandise -- SHOT Show isn't a good comparison, but the same sort of idea.

GMTO is "group made-to-order."  Basically a group buy for something that isn't a normal production item, but uses the scale of the group buy to obviate some of the expenses that would otherwise exist.
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9/11/2017 2:01:26 PM EDT
[#10]
https://helmboots.com/collections/shop
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9/11/2017 7:43:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NavyIS2:
https://helmboots.com/collections/shop
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Nice find, haven't heard of these guys. Made in USA boots.
"Panic sweeps my men when they are facing the AMERICAN MARINES."
-Captured North Korean Major

"Never get out of the boat."
- Chef
9/12/2017 2:20:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DOW:


Nice find, haven't heard of these guys. Made in USA boots.
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HELM is just a marketing brand...they're actually made by Rancourt. Still US made, just saying what I found when I looked into them.    
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9/12/2017 2:45:30 AM EDT
[#13]
Things I will never ever do in my life.

Listen to Arf GD for clothing advice.


Maybe to select the perfect 3 wolfs shirt but nothing else.
9/12/2017 2:55:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stasher1:


Cowboy boots are not office attire. It might be a common look in Texas, but you'll look ridiculous just about anywhere else in the country.
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From Central California myself.

Pretty common to see people "dressed up" and wearing cowboy boots.
9/13/2017 1:58:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jozsi:
Things I will never ever do in my life.

Listen to Arf GD for clothing advice.


Maybe to select the perfect 3 wolfs shirt but nothing else.
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Well, what a relief that you aren't in GD, then.
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RIP Dad
9/19/2017 10:44:31 PM EDT
[#16]
I'm in a primarily business casual office environment. On Fridays I tend to wear my Justin Melo Veal Ropers. They work well in the office for a more casual Friday and work just as well for occasional trips to the field- especially with a nearly indestructible nitrile sole.



http://www.sheplers.com/justin-melo-veal-leather-roper-boots---round-toe/028095.html
3/6/2019 2:49:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rodent:
Russell Moccasin Co. makes custom shoes and boots. They're expensive to buy, but a bargain in the long run. If/when the soles wear out, you can have Russell replace them. I have four pairs of Russell, and have come to the conclusion that will a minimum of care, the uppers will never wear out. At least not before I do.

One of their models is a chukka called the "Convention Walker". They're made specifically for standing and walking indoors on hard floors. Lightweight, with a springy kind of sole and a leather that breathes really well. They have a good outdoorsy/casual look, they go on and off much more easily than a boot, and they're as comfortable as socks. I've done those death-marches through airport customs thinking, "Wow, these shoes are really comfortable!"

http://www.russellmoccasin.com/russell-short-premier-convention-walker/
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Update on these shoes: after quite a lot of wear, a seam separated. I emailed a pic to Russell, and they responded that they could probably hand-sew it for a reasonable price. I sent them in, and got a bill for a hundred bucks. I thought that was pretty steep, but paid it without comment.

Just got my shoes back. The didn't just repair the seam, they replaced the soles, insoles, and laces, and cleaned and oiled the uppers. They look almost new.
"You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality."

Ayn Rand
3/7/2019 12:51:42 PM EDT
[#18]
$100 for a complete overhaul sounds pretty good.
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1/9/2022 8:36:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Rodent][Edited] [#19]
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Originally Posted By LV1976:
$100 for a complete overhaul sounds pretty good.
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I'm about to send them back to be resoled and "overhauled" a second time. I'd much rather buy custom-made every couple decades than lesser shoes every couple years.
"You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality."

Ayn Rand
1/9/2022 9:14:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ef4life:


Monk strap? And you think cowboy boots would make you look ridiculous
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Originally Posted By Ef4life:


Monk strap? And you think cowboy boots would make you look ridiculous

Not knowing what they were I went to the interwebz, here’s what it say…

Casually, monk straps can be worn with a crisp pair of blue jeans. The look is gorgeous. You can wear several types of shirts with it ranging from tees to dress shirts. Throw on a blazer or jacket if its cold outdoors.
GD is like putting on crampons and walking through a room full of puppies.
1/9/2022 9:15:47 AM EDT
[#21]
My vote, however, is desert boots. Yeah, desert boots.

They’re what I grew up in!
GD is like putting on crampons and walking through a room full of puppies.
1/9/2022 9:55:12 AM EDT
[#22]
How many times does OP have to clearly state he's not getting cowboy boots before people stop arguing about cowboy boots?
It's so annoying trying to have a Socratic argument with a psychopath.
1/9/2022 10:10:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By eracer:
How many times does OP have to clearly state he's not getting cowboy boots before people stop arguing about cowboy boots?
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Yeah, I mean he's been telling us for 6yrs already
1/9/2022 10:19:02 AM EDT
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I have worn both styles and for me it was finding one that was comfortable as I do a lot of walking through our factory. Some styles are a little odd looking , but they can be both nicer dress and business casual and be just fine.
1/21/2022 6:02:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By OverScoped:
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FPNI, Id wear an oxford before either of your choices.
2/20/2022 8:38:47 PM EDT
[#26]
Recently picked up a pair of Thursday Boots Chelseys. They have several styles for different situations. For me, the Legend style is a perfect for my lifestyle and work environment.

https://thursdayboots.com/products/mens-legend-chelsea-boot-bourbon?collection=mens-boots-chelsea
www.HansohnBrothers.com
1/18/2023 4:40:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: fish223][Edited] [#27]
GD commentary removed.
This is NOT GD~~fish223

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