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Originally Posted By Master_Shake: Trump wants them out of the WH so they can't ask questions at press conferences. Again, that is creating a safe space for his administration and sends message to the other new agencies. It's ironic that the MSM are "lying shitbags", but when Trump constantly lies you guys cheer it on. Birds of a feather and all that. I love you plants that come on here and talk like the Biden presidency never happened, or that we all forgot. It's that leftist tactic of playing stupid. |
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Originally Posted By Federov: I love you plants that come on here and talk like the Biden presidency never happened, or that we all forgot. It's that leftist tactic of playing stupid. Intentionally Obtarded. It's quite beyond obtuse. They're overachievers, no doubt. Directly responding to trolls gives them the power they crave. |
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Originally Posted By Riesenschnauzer0513: They are just lashing out. They know whats coming Originally Posted By Riesenschnauzer0513: Originally Posted By Master_Shake: Seems like Trump is just creating a giant safe space for himself, and you, along with others here support that. Didn't liberals get made fun of for creating safe spaces? They are just lashing out. They know whats coming Looks like the ones that tried to create their own "safe space" right down to banning individuals from social media, are mad about being called out. Anyone else remember having posts locked down and threaten to be banned for posting on FB about Hunter's laptop? |
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Originally Posted By Rem700PSS: Gas is like 4.60/gal where I'm at. And this is what he is focused on. Be nice if CNN / MSNOW gave an accurate explanation of WHY gas prices are so high rather than just blaming Trump. |
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Originally Posted By Local: Asking the real questions. The short answers are It can be if the restriction is based on protected first amendment speech. Yes. Yes. The first real case is Sherril Vs. Knight. Without getting to deep into it, it basically decided that the administration doesnt have to hold press briefings but if it does it needs to make them open to bona fide news outlets, and restrictions need to be based on 'compelling reasons' and not arbitrarily. Subsequent cases have held close to that. The administration is not without discretion but it also can't exclude outlets or restrict press passes based on the outlets editorial viewpoint. This round of exclusions will be challenged in court and the Whitehouse will have a really hard time defending it. It doesnt help that Trump has openly stated the restrictions are for reasons prior cases have found aren't legal. Trump stated this was due to their deceptive and false reporting, then provided a long list of deceptive and false reporting by CNN. That sounds like it is evidence based vs the MSM's "without evidence" mantra. |
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Has anyone watched the press conferences? People are jammed into that little room shoulder to shoulder. No room for anyone new without throwing someone out. Maybe Trump should promise to move the press conferences into the new ballroom. Then everyone who claims to be 'news' could get in. And these liberal media and judges trying to prevent it from being completed would suddenly change their tune. |
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Originally Posted By Federov: I love you plants that come on here and talk like the Biden presidency never happened, or that we all forgot. It's that leftist tactic of playing stupid. Originally Posted By Federov: Originally Posted By Master_Shake: Trump wants them out of the WH so they can't ask questions at press conferences. Again, that is creating a safe space for his administration and sends message to the other new agencies. It's ironic that the MSM are "lying shitbags", but when Trump constantly lies you guys cheer it on. Birds of a feather and all that. I love you plants that come on here and talk like the Biden presidency never happened, or that we all forgot. It's that leftist tactic of playing stupid. I love the people so obtuse that they are unable to realize that Biden isn't president right now. |
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Originally Posted By Thrasymachus:  What a colossal pussy. Yep, any network that is not going to blow smoke up his ass with praise/promote the party line lies so he can make more personal grift money, just has to go; Like any other dictatorship does as well. Think of it like Yuval Abraham and Rachel Szor that BB is pushing to revoke the citizenship, not that what they showed was not true, but they showed in the first place. Hell, think of like Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz that has stated time and time again of ethnic cleansing on Israel TV, but those speeches never make it to American new stories. And FYI, USA ( and other countries) have done the same with acceptable collateral damage to civilians show in the documentary NAZA time and time again, when sending in cruse missiles into villages to terminate a single person on the matrix disposition list. |
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Originally Posted By PCB66: I don't blame Trump. CNN, MSNBC and Politico are the propaganda branches of the filthy destructive Democrat Party. Never any honesty from them. Good riddance. Exactly. The 4 years of the “Russia Hoax” bullshit, the Rittenhouse reporting, the lies about “Very fine people”, the Covington Catholic highschool student they tried to ruin his life, the covid censorship on their platforms, the bullshit cases against Trump, the absolute farce of January 6 coverage, banning a sitting US President off of social media, the lies and coverup of Hunter Biden’s laptop, “fiery but mostly peaceful” riots in 2020, the gaslighting around Biden’s mental condition and total acceptance of Biden having cheat sheets with journalist names, questions and answers already on a card, never heckling Biden like they do to Trump. So yeah, they can fuck right off and still use their first amendment rights to peddle their bullshit….just not from the front row of the whitehouse briefing room. |
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Originally Posted By Thrasymachus: I love the people so obtuse that they are unable to realize that Biden isn't president right now. Originally Posted By Thrasymachus: Originally Posted By Federov: Originally Posted By Master_Shake: Trump wants them out of the WH so they can't ask questions at press conferences. Again, that is creating a safe space for his administration and sends message to the other new agencies. It's ironic that the MSM are "lying shitbags", but when Trump constantly lies you guys cheer it on. Birds of a feather and all that. I love you plants that come on here and talk like the Biden presidency never happened, or that we all forgot. It's that leftist tactic of playing stupid. I love the people so obtuse that they are unable to realize that Biden isn't president right now. Like I said, birds of a feather. |
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Originally Posted By 6SJ7GT: Trump stated this was due to their deceptive and false reporting, then provided a long list of deceptive and false reporting by CNN. That sounds like it is evidence based vs the MSM's "without evidence" mantra. Itll be up to judges, but none of that likely passes the legal tests for what are valid reasons to bar news outlets from press briefings. It hasn't in the past, anyway. What they publish, regardless of veracity, is protected first amendment speech. The language in the landmark case is 'requires that this access not be denied arbitrarily or for less than compelling reasons.' It goes on to cite cases that help define that, but it essentially boils down to security threats. Moreover, whatever the reason the process used has to be documented and adhered to, which doesn’t seem to be the case here. Contrary to popular wisdom there's no real obligation that the press publishes pure fact, or that is must do so with balance. Freedom of the press means that, with some narrow exceptions, a news outlet can report the news as they see it, which is not nessecarily the way the Whitehouse sees it. |
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Originally Posted By realwar: In before a judge says you can't.  Quick fix. Find a supporter that outright owns a room big enough to accommodate the press. Hold the conference there. Court tells Trump he has to invite the Fake News outlets. Trump invites them. Homeowner tells Trump it's his property and he'll invite who he sees fit.  Throws them out on their ass and if they get froggy has them trespassed and carted off by the local Gendarmes..Court can't order homeowner to let unwanted people into his property. |
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Originally Posted By 6SJ7GT: Trump stated this was due to their deceptive and false reporting, then provided a long list of deceptive and false reporting by CNN. That sounds like it is evidence based vs the MSM's "without evidence" mantra. Did that convince them? Did that bring them to the belief that we're the good guys? |
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Originally Posted By Master_Shake: Better yet are the ones who justify Trump doing things like this because Biden did it. Like I said, birds of a feather. Biden admin tried to supress information they didn't like. The Trump admin doesn't coordinate with social media to supress comments and info they don't like. I had personal experience with this regarding Hunter's laptop and FB. |
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Originally Posted By 6SJ7GT: Looks like the ones that tried to create their own "safe space" right down to banning individuals from social media, are mad about being called out. Anyone else remember having posts locked down and threaten to be banned for posting on FB about Hunter's laptop? |
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Originally Posted By RCK1999: This probably won’t even make it to TACO Tuesday. I bet these access denials are overturned this weekend. They can confiscate all the boom mics. Those have been used as a weapon. |
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Originally Posted By Local: Itll be up to judges, but none of that likely passes the legal tests for what are valid reasons to bar news outlets from press briefings. It hasn't in the past, anyway. What they publish, regardless of veracity, is protected first amendment speech. The language in the landmark case is 'requires that this access not be denied arbitrarily or for less than compelling reasons.' It goes on to cite cases that help define that, but it essentially boils down to security threats. Moreover, whatever the reason the process used has to be documented and adhered to, which doesn’t seem to be the case here. Contrary to popular wisdom there's no real obligation that the press publishes pure fact, or that is must do so with balance. Freedom of the press means that, with some narrow exceptions, a news outlet can report the news as they see it, which is not nessecarily the way the Whitehouse sees it. So the press can claim you robbed a bank and it is ok to do so? The white house is the president's house, and he can decide who is welcome or not. Just like you and I can deny anyone we wish from entering our home. What gives these news outlets the privilege of a seat over other outlets? |
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Originally Posted By lorazepam: So the press can claim you robbed a bank and it is ok to do so? The white house is the president's house, and he can decide who is welcome or not. Just like you and I can deny anyone we wish from entering our home. What gives these news outlets the privilege of a seat over other outlets? Originally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By Local: Itll be up to judges, but none of that likely passes the legal tests for what are valid reasons to bar news outlets from press briefings. It hasn't in the past, anyway. What they publish, regardless of veracity, is protected first amendment speech. The language in the landmark case is 'requires that this access not be denied arbitrarily or for less than compelling reasons.' It goes on to cite cases that help define that, but it essentially boils down to security threats. Moreover, whatever the reason the process used has to be documented and adhered to, which doesn’t seem to be the case here. Contrary to popular wisdom there's no real obligation that the press publishes pure fact, or that is must do so with balance. Freedom of the press means that, with some narrow exceptions, a news outlet can report the news as they see it, which is not nessecarily the way the Whitehouse sees it. So the press can claim you robbed a bank and it is ok to do so? The white house is the president's house, and he can decide who is welcome or not. Just like you and I can deny anyone we wish from entering our home. What gives these news outlets the privilege of a seat over other outlets? Actually it’s the people’s house. |
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Originally Posted By 6SJ7GT: Biden admin tried to supress information they didn't like. The Trump admin doesn't coordinate with social media to supress comments and info they don't like. I had personal experience with this regarding Hunter's laptop and FB. Originally Posted By 6SJ7GT: Originally Posted By Master_Shake: Better yet are the ones who justify Trump doing things like this because Biden did it. Like I said, birds of a feather. Biden admin tried to supress information they didn't like. The Trump admin doesn't coordinate with social media to supress comments and info they don't like. I had personal experience with this regarding Hunter's laptop and FB. You'd think since you have personal experience you'd be more sensitive to government censorship of the news media instead of defending it. |
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Originally Posted By Ulster: lol...gas IS high because of Trump. potato v2 Oil companies are taking advantage of the war to make huge profits. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By realwar: Oil companies are taking advantage of the war to make huge profits. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2026-09-19_at_09-50-06_are_oi-3829576.JPG Originally Posted By realwar: Originally Posted By Ulster: lol...gas IS high because of Trump. potato v2 Oil companies are taking advantage of the war to make huge profits. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2026-09-19_at_09-50-06_are_oi-3829576.JPG Yep...all caused by Trump's war. Potato v2 owns this mess. |
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Originally Posted By Ulster: Yep...all caused by Trump's war. Potato v2 owns this mess. Originally Posted By Ulster: Originally Posted By realwar: Originally Posted By Ulster: lol...gas IS high because of Trump. potato v2 Oil companies are taking advantage of the war to make huge profits. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2026-09-19_at_09-50-06_are_oi-3829576.JPG Yep...all caused by Trump's war. Potato v2 owns this mess. Lots of his cronies have made a ton of $$$$$. |
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Originally Posted By RCK1999: Actually it’s the people’s house. Originally Posted By RCK1999: Originally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By Local: Itll be up to judges, but none of that likely passes the legal tests for what are valid reasons to bar news outlets from press briefings. It hasn't in the past, anyway. What they publish, regardless of veracity, is protected first amendment speech. The language in the landmark case is 'requires that this access not be denied arbitrarily or for less than compelling reasons.' It goes on to cite cases that help define that, but it essentially boils down to security threats. Moreover, whatever the reason the process used has to be documented and adhered to, which doesn’t seem to be the case here. Contrary to popular wisdom there's no real obligation that the press publishes pure fact, or that is must do so with balance. Freedom of the press means that, with some narrow exceptions, a news outlet can report the news as they see it, which is not nessecarily the way the Whitehouse sees it. So the press can claim you robbed a bank and it is ok to do so? The white house is the president's house, and he can decide who is welcome or not. Just like you and I can deny anyone we wish from entering our home. What gives these news outlets the privilege of a seat over other outlets? Actually it’s the people’s house. People can't seem to grasp that Trump is a representative of the government, not a private citizen. |
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I am not a fan of this. Comes across as being very thin skinned. What I would do is remove most of the seats in the press room, leaving about 15. Then before every press conference, randomly generate the press outlets who will be granted admission. It's fair and avoids the cherry-picking. |
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Originally Posted By OutThere: I am not a fan of this. Comes across as being very thin skinned. What I would do is remove most of the seats in the press room, leaving about 15. Then before every press conference, randomly generate the press outlets who will be granted admission. It's fair and avoids the cherry-picking. Gosh, sort of like the press pool system already in place. |
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Originally Posted By lorazepam: So the press can claim you robbed a bank and it is ok to do so? Originally Posted By lorazepam: So the press can claim you robbed a bank and it is ok to do so? Originally Posted By Local:Freedom of the press means that, with some narrow exceptions, a news outlet can report the news as they see it, which is not nessecarily the way the Whitehouse sees it. Does that help? When considering things written about public figures, like the president, the bar for proving things like libel is extraordinarily high. I can't see how anything CNN or whoever has written about him is remotely close to anything like illegal. It might be incorrect, but that doesn't actually matter. Reporting the news is still first amendment protected speech. Originally Posted By lorazepam: The white house is the president's house, and he can decide who is welcome or not. Just like you and I can deny anyone we wish from entering our home. What gives these news outlets the privilege of a seat over other outlets? It isn't remotely that simple. This has been tried in court several times over the span of decades and the courts have found consistently that if the Whitehouse is going to have press briefings it can't bar specific news outlets or specific reporters from those without good reason because of 1st and 5th amendment issues. Not liking what they report isn't good enough. Alleging that the news being reported isn't factual isn't good enough. If the administration wants to take this court they can, but they'll probably loose. |
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If I should go to the WH and demand access to cover things, I'm not getting in. All these freedom of the press judges need to open up their chambers - we have a right to know! They regularly ban or gag press in and out of their courtroom. |
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Originally Posted By RCK1999: Gosh, sort of like the press pool system already in place. Originally Posted By RCK1999: Originally Posted By OutThere: I am not a fan of this. Comes across as being very thin skinned. What I would do is remove most of the seats in the press room, leaving about 15. Then before every press conference, randomly generate the press outlets who will be granted admission. It's fair and avoids the cherry-picking. Gosh, sort of like the press pool system already in place. Except, it's not, is it? The WH press office specifically chooses whit outlets are given access. And now, the President himself is involved in making those decisions. As evidence, may I offer the OP to this thread? |
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Originally Posted By realwar: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2026-09-19_at_08-46-12__2__Ho-3829553.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2026-09-19_at_08-57-20__2__Ho-3829555.JPG
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Originally Posted By Dirtydog: You have a right to free speech but not to lies under the guise of news. In my opinion a strait out lie is not much better than a lie by omission or leading one to believe something other than the truth, especially if you claim to be news. - This is True - These media outlets are skewed so far left, it isn't even funny. Why should they have preferential access to the very source they are attempting to undercut and lie (usually by omission) about constantly? Their flat out Bias has been fully exposed, by those paying attention. Show me where it is in the Constitution, that these very same sources, are granted the right to unfettered White House access. (The Presidents Private Residence) I'll wait. |
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Originally Posted By realwar: They are no longer a new reporting agency. They are purposely making up false stories and spreading misinformation to benefit the democrat party. Trump is showing them the door. They can can continue spreading their lies but on the outside now. All they lost was their special access nothing more. ^^^^^^^^^ Exactly this. ^^^^^^^^^^ Cry me a River, bitches. |
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Originally Posted By OutThere: Except, it's not, is it? The WH press office specifically chooses whit outlets are given access. And now, the President himself is involved in making those decisions. As evidence, may I offer the OP to this thread? Originally Posted By OutThere: Originally Posted By RCK1999: Originally Posted By OutThere: I am not a fan of this. Comes across as being very thin skinned. What I would do is remove most of the seats in the press room, leaving about 15. Then before every press conference, randomly generate the press outlets who will be granted admission. It's fair and avoids the cherry-picking. Gosh, sort of like the press pool system already in place. Except, it's not, is it? The WH press office specifically chooses whit outlets are given access. And now, the President himself is involved in making those decisions. As evidence, may I offer the OP to this thread? Until this administration, the press pool schedule was a managed by the WHCA. Like many here, you don’t have a clue about the constitutional implications of this foolish move. Trumph knows well and good that what he did here is not constitutional, and won’t hold up in court. He simply doesn’t care. His goal with this move on a Friday afternoon was to change and control the news cycle. He was successful in that goal. |
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Originally Posted By LightSwitch: Exactly. The 4 years of the “Russia Hoax” bullshit, the Rittenhouse reporting, the lies about “Very fine people”, the Covington Catholic highschool student they tried to ruin his life, the covid censorship on their platforms, the bullshit cases against Trump, the absolute farce of January 6 coverage, banning a sitting US President off of social media, the lies and coverup of Hunter Biden’s laptop, “fiery but mostly peaceful” riots in 2020, the gaslighting around Biden’s mental condition and total acceptance of Biden having cheat sheets with journalist names, questions and answers already on a card, never heckling Biden like they do to Trump. So yeah, they can fuck right off and still use their first amendment rights to peddle their bullshit….just not from the front row of the whitehouse briefing room. This Remember it all . They were all in . Propaganda arm of the DNC . |
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Originally Posted By RCK1999: Until this administration, the press pool schedule was a managed by the WHCA. Like many here, you don’t have a clue about the constitutional implications of this foolish move. Trumph knows well and good that what he did here is not constitutional, and won’t hold up in court. He simply doesn’t care. His goal with this move on a Friday afternoon was to change and control the news cycle. He was successful in that goal. The court blocks this then the press conferences go to Cspan video conferences. everyone gets equal access that way. |
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Originally Posted By RCK1999: Until this administration, the press pool schedule was a managed by the WHCA. Like many here, you don’t have a clue about the constitutional implications of this foolish move. Trumph knows well and good that what he did here is not constitutional, and won’t hold up in court. He simply doesn’t care. His goal with this move on a Friday afternoon was to change and control the news cycle. He was successful in that goal. Originally Posted By RCK1999: Originally Posted By OutThere: Originally Posted By RCK1999: Originally Posted By OutThere: I am not a fan of this. Comes across as being very thin skinned. What I would do is remove most of the seats in the press room, leaving about 15. Then before every press conference, randomly generate the press outlets who will be granted admission. It's fair and avoids the cherry-picking. Gosh, sort of like the press pool system already in place. Except, it's not, is it? The WH press office specifically chooses whit outlets are given access. And now, the President himself is involved in making those decisions. As evidence, may I offer the OP to this thread? Until this administration, the press pool schedule was a managed by the WHCA. Like many here, you don’t have a clue about the constitutional implications of this foolish move. Trumph knows well and good that what he did here is not constitutional, and won’t hold up in court. He simply doesn’t care. His goal with this move on a Friday afternoon was to change and control the news cycle. He was successful in that goal. I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or arguing for my position in a passive aggressive manner. Either way, you seem to agree with me that it's foolish (Me: "I'm not a fan of this") and that this administration explicitly chooses the press outlets that are granted admission. I agree that it's unconstitutional, hence why I said I'm not a fan of it and you said it's foolish. So, well done, sir? |
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