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9/14/2026 1:34:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CallMeMrWENG2X][Edited]


Any Toyota Tundra 3rd-Gen owners on here?

Take it easy on me please. I’m a new member and this is my 1st post. I’m curious to hear what 2A friendly, Toyota Tundra 3rd-Gen owners are doing to keep their vehicles running healthy? Hopefully to prevent it from going KAPUT! Current production Tundras ain’t cheap and are not the bulletproof trucks they were many years back with the proven million mile V8.

There’s no going back in time for Toyota Tundra loyalists. The 3.4L V35A-FTS twin-turbo V6 is what we have to contend with. My personal viewpoint  when it comes to vehicle maintenance is this… Oil is cheap. Replacing a broken engine isn’t. Turbo engines need heavier weight oils and should be subject to short oil change intervals. This is to keep the oil lubricating the engine and turbos always in grade.

I snob CAFE standards so will always prioritize using high quality oil, heavier weight oil for turbo engines and short oil change intervals like 3,000-5,000 miles. I think it’s nuts that Toyota is recommending 10,000 miles oil change intervals using 0W-20 engine oil for the Tundra. My car care practices may also be nuts. I just don’t know. Maybe there’s somebody out there who’s also doing what i’m doing.

The truck I own is a 2025 TRD Pro Hybrid. No aftermarket parts. Decided to wait 2-3 years before pulling the trigger on the Tundra. My vehicle purchase coincided with my turning half a century old. A happy birthday gift to myself and i’m hoping it’ll be my only truck as I grow old and decrepit.

What i’ve done so far is 1st ditch the TGMO 0W-20 engine oil at only 300 miles and switched to Pennzoil 0W-30 Euro LX as my break-in oil. I’m also using a WIX 57145XP oil filter. So far so good. The engine’s hum is healthy. Oil pressure gauges showing good bars. Oil temperature optimal. Impact on MPG appears very minimal or even maybe not at all affected. I did my 2nd oil change at 1,000 miles using the same stuff. I’m now at 1,300 miles. Same healthy engine findings. Nothing negative to report.

I will continue using 0W-30 oil in my Toyota Tundra and will make an effort to report how my vehicle is doing with each oil change. I already plan on switching to the K&N HP-1003 oil filter after 5,000 miles. The WIX 57145XP is my oil filter of choice for the break-in period because it allows for high flow of oil and the filtering capability is much higher than Toyota’s OEM 90915-10010 oil filter. This is how i’m addressing the machine debris rumor the Toyota Tundra 3rd-Gen is said to have.

It’s my opinion that Toyota USA has ditched the built like a tank philosophy for the Tundra. I feel like they’ve embraced the automotive Big 3’s business practice of building American trucks pretty, making them overpriced and ensuring they don’t last long. It all sounds so wrong but undeniably true.

Thank you in advance for anything shared re this topic. Let’s learn from each other and hopefully get our trucks to clock-in a million miles. Have a blessed Sunday. God bless YOU! God bless the USA!
9/14/2026 1:58:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DVCER][Edited] [#1]
My 21 Tundra experience and it was my first Toyota has been good so far. The last year of the V8.

Definitely no tank like my prior 3/4 T duramax GMC, but it’s a contender.  I thought the new engine was supposed to get decent mileage, but I’m getting about 17mpg around town.  9 towing. Is the new one doing much better?
I like mine.  Welcome to Arfcom.

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I was pretty sure the chains would have not worked up front, where I preferred them.  Also, I had to disable some of the nanny BS traction control just to get the damn truck to move chained up .  Still, it did a fine job.   Got stuck once in really deep snow.  Had to disconnect the trailer to get unstuck.
The trailer is another 400 yards beyond, towed it back with the SxS.
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And WTF is up with building a decent truck that mice can get into? I’m about to pull the cowling under the wipers to mod the air intake.  It’s like a highway into the truck.  Now I gotta put some screening under there.  The big PIA will be lifting the wipers off the splines.

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9/14/2026 6:37:15 AM EDT
[#2]
Change the oil again at 1000 miles and again at 3000 miles for best results on a new engine.  Keep the filters of high quality and continue using the 0W-30 oil.

The thin oil is mostly to keep the manufacturers gas mileage figures across the line under EPA specs.  It will get you through the warranty period.  The problem is that the engine design is for the thin stuff, but the move to 0w-30 should be ok, it is not that big of a leap.
9/14/2026 8:06:58 AM EDT
[#3]
I love my ‘14 that I bought new off the showroom floor and hasn’t needed anything but a water pump last fall. Incredible truck from the durability and reliability standpoints.

I really wanted a new Tundra, and I’d probably also pick up a TRD Pro as I have met a few people who love theirs, but I held off a while and now with everything going on, I’m glad that I did.

I have driven a few, and they are nice and if Toyota can get that engine as reliable as their 5.7, I’m in.

For now, I’m keeping mine.

Good luck, OP!

You should move to the right lane, where the rule of vehicle and traffic law still exists. You will not survive here. You are not a wolf, and the left lane is the land of wolves now.
9/15/2026 1:15:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CallMeMrWENG2X][Edited] [#4]
Might just do another oil change at 3,000 miles but not 2,000 miles. The WIX 57145 will stay in place. At the 5,000 miles oil change, i’ll start using the K&N HP-1003 oil filter. Moving forward, oil change intervals will be at either 3,000 or 4,000 miles. Hard for me to clock-in lots of mileage as the truck is a spare vehicle in our household.

I don’t know how to do oil change so I always have a Toyota dealership do the dirty work for me. Just showing the stuff that I used from last August’s oil change.



9/15/2026 3:43:51 PM EDT
[#5]
I've had a '25 Tundra for just under 2 years now.  Have 28K miles.  I have been having Toyota change the oil every 5K miles.  No issues with the truck.  It rides well, tows well, etc.  It's a bit soulless though.  Little turbo V6 has enough power, but you can't really hear it working.  I miss a V8 truck.
9/15/2026 8:21:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BPR:
I've had a '25 Tundra for just under 2 years now.  Have 28K miles.  I have been having Toyota change the oil every 5K miles.  No issues with the truck.  It rides well, tows well, etc.  It's a bit soulless though.  Little turbo V6 has enough power, but you can't really hear it working.  I miss a V8 truck.
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Doesn't it have a fake roar through the speakers?
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9/16/2026 5:34:26 AM EDT
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Mine does. I hear a rumble through the speakers whenever I press on the gas. Tried listening to it with the doors and windows wide open. All I got was crickets! Same thing with the hood open… crickets! The initial winding down or up of the hybrid engine has more noise than the gas engine. I can agree that the truck is soulless because of this. So much so that I nicknamed my truck - GHOST!

9/16/2026 9:09:18 AM EDT
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Doesn't it have a fake roar through the speakers?
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No, mine is a SR5 trim- I think the ROAR comes with the limited and up.

I did get the big screen and full size roll down rear window on my SR5.  I'm not a tech guy- but i do like the big screen and apple carplay interface.  And the full size rear roll-down window is probably my favorite thing about the truck.
9/16/2026 12:05:41 PM EDT
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My 2021 came with the factory roar.  Yeah, the rear window rolling down is very nice.

@DVCER

Please send instructions when you figure out how to block mice out.  I may try it.

I think this works to keep them out.  I had mice, found this and left a bag in for a couple of years and forgot about it, but no mice.  I took it out last month, thinking it was bad
and a few weeks ago I had a mouse in it again.  I have bought more and put another bag in.  

I have had to get in the passenger floor board and drop the AC blower to get leaves and acorns out.  I also had one chew through the windshield washer tube.  I don't eat in the truck, so they are
just being little assholes and destroying anything they can.

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I love a good double entendre.
9/16/2026 12:11:00 PM EDT
[#10]
Another Tundra if anyones looking, just saw this on BaT

Modified 2023 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro

Was a promotional truck



Can be seen in action on their website too

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9/16/2026 7:45:16 PM EDT
[#11]
I would be concerned that using the "incorrect " oil might void the warranty.
9/16/2026 9:03:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CallMeMrWENG2X][Edited] [#12]
I thought that too before taking the plunge on a Toyota Tundra 3rd-Gen. I got the 2025 because I wanted to see how the new truck with it’s new engine will do since it’s release in 2022. Sad to say that 2022 had lots of engine failure. 2023 was the same but Toyota USA started coming up with a manufacturing fix. 2024 was very promising with very little engine failures. The common denominators with the 2022, 2023 & 2024 engine failures are the TGMO 0W-20 oil and the 10,000 miles oil change interval. That got me thinking… people buying $50K-$80K trucks and won’t even entertain the thought of spending a few $1 more for higher quality engine oil and shorter oil change interval. They would rather squeeze 1-2 MPG out of their truck’s engine rather than protect it from failure.

I honestly don’t want to be part of that engine failure statistic so i’m doing what i’m doing with the 0W-30 engine oil. I’m following a few test subject trucks that are running 5W-30 and 0W-40 from day 1 of ownership. No engine failures yet. These trucks are daily driven so as their mileage go up, my confidence in what i’m doing is also in on the up.

Just for reference, here’s what other countries are recommending owners use on their Toyota Tundra 3rd-Gen. The USA unfortunately has the CAFE standards resulting in high engine wear and early engine failure. We shall see how far i’ll get with the 0W-30 engine oil. Wish me luck!

9/17/2026 1:21:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By trails-end:
My 2021 came with the factory roar.  Yeah, the rear window rolling down is very nice.

@DVCER

Please send instructions when you figure out how to block mice out.  I may try it.

I think this works to keep them out.  I had mice, found this and left a bag in for a couple of years and forgot about it, but no mice.  I took it out last month, thinking it was bad
and a few weeks ago I had a mouse in it again.  I have bought more and put another bag in.  

I have had to get in the passenger floor board and drop the AC blower to get leaves and acorns out.  I also had one chew through the windshield washer tube.  I don't eat in the truck, so they are
just being little assholes and destroying anything they can.

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That’s wild, I have those exact repellent bags zip tied under the hood and a couple more in the cab.  I have not seen any more mice in the cab since.

I’ll make a thread on the fix.  As far as I know/read, they are getting in via the air intake under the windshield wiper cowling.
We have to pull the wipers off their axle, then pull the cowl, then rig some screen over the intake.
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9/17/2026 1:29:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CallMeMrWENG2X:
I think it’s nuts that Toyota is recommending 10,000 miles oil change intervals using 0W-20 engine oil for the Tundra.
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It only has to make it through two oil changes.  By the time the third one's up, it's out of warranty.  And that's if the bearings don't grenade.  
9/17/2026 5:23:43 AM EDT
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9/17/2026 5:48:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CallMeMrWENG2X][Edited] [#16]
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Originally Posted By GlutealCleft:
It only has to make it through two oil changes.  By the time the third one's up, it's out of warranty.  And that's if the bearings don't grenade.  
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Yey! My 1st quote grab! LOL

Anyway, kinda upsetting that Tundra owners are only getting 2 oil changes and 5 tire rotations from buying a new truck. Toyota Care starts with 1st 5,000 miles = tire rotation only. 10,000 miles = oil change & tire rotation. 15,000 miles = tire rotation only. 20,000 = oil change & tire rotation. And finally, 25,000 miles = tire rotation only. That’s it! You’re on your own after. Like you said, that’s if the bearings don’t grenade.

Precisely why I started my engine break-in with Pennzoil 0W-30 Euro LX. The Toyota dealership that does my oil change know of several Tundra owners that started theirs using 5W-30 & 0W-40. Totally any Tundra 3rd-Gen owners call… fork out $25K for an engine replacement when the V35A-FTS goes KAPUT! or spend $14x8 quarts = $112 per oil change and have that peace of mind that your engine’s well lubed by high quality and thicker engine oil.

I spend more on ammo and range fees each time I shoot. What’s $112 every 3-4,000 miles? Negligible expense IMO.
9/20/2026 11:48:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CallMeMrWENG2X:
I thought that too before taking the plunge on a Toyota Tundra 3rd-Gen. I got the 2025 because I wanted to see how the new truck with it's new engine will do since it's release in 2022. Sad to say that 2022 had lots of engine failure. 2023 was the same but Toyota USA started coming up with a manufacturing fix. 2024 was very promising with very little engine failures. The common denominators with the 2022, 2023 & 2024 engine failures are the TGMO 0W-20 oil and the 10,000 miles oil change interval. That got me thinking  people buying $50K-$80K trucks and won't even entertain the thought of spending a few $1 more for higher quality engine oil and shorter oil change interval. They would rather squeeze 1-2 MPG out of their truck's engine rather than protect it from failure.

I honestly don't want to be part of that engine failure statistic so i'm doing what i'm doing with the 0W-30 engine oil. I'm following a few test subject trucks that are running 5W-30 and 0W-40 from day 1 of ownership. No engine failures yet. These trucks are daily driven so as their mileage go up, my confidence in what i'm doing is also in on the up.

Just for reference, here's what other countries are recommending owners use on their Toyota Tundra 3rd-Gen. The USA unfortunately has the CAFE standards resulting in high engine wear and early engine failure. We shall see how far i'll get with the 0W-30 engine oil. Wish me luck!

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There's a bunch of near and plus 200k XK70 V35A. We know the background of some of these and owners claims, and there's some evidence, of mfg intervals at franchise outlets.  Least as much as we had from Aaron Morvant's and Vic Sheppards (x2) million mile Tundras. In others continued 0W20 use.

South Africa, Gulf and the issues the relatively few Tundra (tho no recalls since Oz got Hybrid i-Force Max in both Tundra and starting this year J300 got the same). Those markets did get 0W20 factory fills tho. Subsequently many do not - especially ZA which has a historical bent for cheap, local, non-syn 15W40 use in everything. So I'm not as optimistic as you leaning on foreign spectrum acceptances.

TMNA warranty requirements are clear. Interesting experiment, interested in following. Look forward to regular updates.


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9/20/2026 3:45:31 PM EDT
[#18]
Just changed the oil again on our ‘23. 10k miles OCI, I swing by the dealer and pick up the parts when my wife tells me the light came on.

Love the truck.

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