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| Anyone else pick up MW5:Clans yet? So far, I'm liking it, but I'm only a couple of hours in. Storyline has been fantastic thus far and I haven't picked up even a whiff of "The Message" yet. |
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Originally Posted By Paulie771: Anyone else pick up MW5:Clans yet? So far, I'm liking it, but I'm only a couple of hours in. Storyline has been fantastic thus far and I haven't picked up even a whiff of "The Message" yet. I won't be getting it till it hits GOG so you all are my beta testers.  From the videos of the gameplay and cutscenes I've seen ... it looks like pgi put in some effort to make it match the setting, but you can see around the edges where they just don't get the clans. Stuff like clanners being emotional over death in ways they wouldn't, the generic kinds of things and the way clanners and sibkin would talk to each other, and how while in clan life they don't like waste, they basically don't treat or see killing people as a waste - rather it's what the person could do, and can we replace them easily or not. Clanner warriors (outside of CGB to some extent) and especially the trashcan born ones do not have a concept of mother-father-children family, AND while romantic and intense love is not wholly unknown to them, it's foriegn enough that they don't know how to handle it and it borderline freaks them out when it happens to them. CSJ wouldn't be too torn up about the orbital bombardment of edo at turtle bay either. Perez and others were involved in making that decision; he was not the only one. CSJ has been placed (for a very long time) as the hardliner "fundamentalist clanners" who make the jade falcons look liberal by comparison. IIRC they basically don't take slaves ("bondsmen") and in the rare cases when they do those slaves effectively never make it up to warrior status. Their warriors are also noted for being pretty ignorant when it comes to reading books or interacting with things that aren't the rememberance or related to their work or clan culture. Oh, and the watch, the clan's intel service arm? IIRC they didn't even have that pre-invasion and even after the watch were looked down on as being dishonorable. If you read the sourcebooks for the life rolls for clan watch characters, they get their faces pushed in by inner sphere assets so badly that it can give them ptsd. |
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: ... Their warriors are also noted for being pretty ignorant when it comes to reading books or interacting with things that aren't the rememberance or related to their work or clan culture. Oh, and the watch, the clan's intel service arm? IIRC they didn't even have that pre-invasion and even after the watch were looked down on as being dishonorable. If you read the sourcebooks for the life rolls for clan watch characters, they get their faces pushed in by inner sphere assets so badly that it can give them ptsd. Life rolls in MW 3rd edition and beyond are lame. It's a whole bunch of lost limbs and bullshit. MW2 is the pinnacle of MW RPG. Simple, direct, almost all 2d6, and waaay less stats to keep track of. Tell a damn story. Back few pages of the Intelligence Operations Handbook showed the Clan spy archetype basically up against a wall with bullet holes erupting from the wall about to be killed because they're so dismally naiive, stupid and useless. I'd find the pic if I could but we live in the era of dead internet. Comstar/Word of Blake had the best spies, and each house had their own specialty. At least they did before idiocy like the WoB jihad transdimensional warp-40K cyborgs and Jarnvolk or whatever started getting written. Writer: "imagine a deep space past the periphery culture that's almost exclusively assassins!!" Editor: "that's fucking stupid, but we need to put out a splatbook to keep the lights on, fuck it" |
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Wow Battletech . Ya I - we used to play . We all had a " squad " of mechs . One heavy , medium and light . We develpoed some back history and such as well for fun . Eventually it got kinda pricey when the guys decieded we needed to have the exact minerature For the actual model Mech . Jump infantry was cool . We had Call sign Nick names . Mine was " Heat Miser " like from the old Christmas special . I used to run my Mechs hot w fireing all my weapons and sometimes the guys thought maybe I didnt add my heat points right . Ha . I never cheated but did have to roll to not get shut down a few times . HEAT Miser . Ha the good Ole days |
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Originally Posted By Sirveaux: Life rolls in MW 3rd edition and beyond are lame. It's a whole bunch of lost limbs and bullshit. MW2 is the pinnacle of MW RPG. Simple, direct, almost all 2d6, and waaay less stats to keep track of. Tell a damn story. Back few pages of the Intelligence Operations Handbook showed the Clan spy archetype basically up against a wall with bullet holes erupting from the wall about to be killed because they're so dismally naiive, stupid and useless. I'd find the pic if I could but we live in the era of dead internet. Comstar/Word of Blake had the best spies, and each house had their own specialty. At least they did before idiocy like the WoB jihad transdimensional warp-40K cyborgs and Jarnvolk or whatever started getting written. Writer: "imagine a deep space past the periphery culture that's almost exclusively assassins!!" Editor: "that's fucking stupid, but we need to put out a splatbook to keep the lights on, fuck it" Originally Posted By Sirveaux: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: ... Their warriors are also noted for being pretty ignorant when it comes to reading books or interacting with things that aren't the rememberance or related to their work or clan culture. Oh, and the watch, the clan's intel service arm? IIRC they didn't even have that pre-invasion and even after the watch were looked down on as being dishonorable. If you read the sourcebooks for the life rolls for clan watch characters, they get their faces pushed in by inner sphere assets so badly that it can give them ptsd. Life rolls in MW 3rd edition and beyond are lame. It's a whole bunch of lost limbs and bullshit. MW2 is the pinnacle of MW RPG. Simple, direct, almost all 2d6, and waaay less stats to keep track of. Tell a damn story. Back few pages of the Intelligence Operations Handbook showed the Clan spy archetype basically up against a wall with bullet holes erupting from the wall about to be killed because they're so dismally naiive, stupid and useless. I'd find the pic if I could but we live in the era of dead internet. Comstar/Word of Blake had the best spies, and each house had their own specialty. At least they did before idiocy like the WoB jihad transdimensional warp-40K cyborgs and Jarnvolk or whatever started getting written. Writer: "imagine a deep space past the periphery culture that's almost exclusively assassins!!" Editor: "that's fucking stupid, but we need to put out a splatbook to keep the lights on, fuck it" Did you ever use the point based character creation system from page 92 of classic battletech companion? (10975, wk / fanpro, 2003 https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Classic_BattleTech_Companion ) |
So ... I think I have some idea what he's riffing off of and speculating from, plus I suspect he's read at least some of the novels. On the billion to .0000001% chance ganglo sees this... dude, just drop the link  : https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Essay:_BattleMech_Technology#The_Neurohelmet Click To View Spoiler The Outside Limits While the neurohelmet can help translate the MechWarrior's basic intentions to the BattleMech and give a small amount of sensory feedback to the MechWarrior, they aren't capable of real-time "mind reading" that would be necessary in order to directly control a BattleMech's movements or weapons systems—nor can they input enough data to a MechWarrior to replace the cockpit information systems. The first Star League could not make helmets capable of this and neither can the Clans. Also: Overall 'Mech functionality ... It is the BattleMech that does the majority of recoil compensation and compensates for blasts of incoming hostile fire. While a MechWarrior can help the BattleMech keep its balance, for instance, by "telling" the 'Mech when to ride with recoil rather than leaning into it, or when to throw itself off-balance at another 'Mech, it is still the DI that handles most of the decision-making when it comes to balance chores. Moving is yet another task where the BattleMech does most of work. Though a BattleMech may have proportionately large feet, it still must choose every footstep with care in order to compensate for outside forces or in anticipation of environmental features. Again, it is the DI that handles this, via a 'Mech's many sensors. Hand actuators are also tools that the BattleMech will handle via the DI network, especially more modern 'Mechs, which are programmed with very capable and complex actuator routines. BattleMechs will actually move their limbs and torso to avoid collisions. The agile movements of a light BattleMech threading its way through a forest is not only the result of a talented MechWarrior, but the 'Mech's own DI computer avoiding the trees. All of that said, 'Mechs are not built or programmed to be autonomous, mostly because they carry a prodigious amount of firepower and are physically so large. In fact, MechWarriors must handle all of the higher-level decisions, essentially handling "higher level thinking" and balance tasks for their 'Mech. This is why BattleMechs do sometimes simply crash their way through forests, clip buildings, or trip down into ravines. BattleMechs are programmed to obey their pilots, regardless of the "common sense" programmed into the 'Mech. For instance, a 'Mech will swing its arms through the side of a building if that is what's required to bring weapons to bear on a target. BattleMechs will give collision warnings, but they don't override their pilots. Ironically, this is one of the reasons why it takes a long time to train good MechWarriors. MechWarriors actually have to learn how to think for their 'Mech and exploit the machine's "intelligence" in order to get the results they want. And (unless things have changed since the answer given here: https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,26178.0.html (backup of said here: https://archive.is/8jSD1 ) The original text sources for that are the controlling source. I mean, aside from the whole "We own it and we'll do what we please." Still, what he posted is a lot closer to right than wrong. Some of the stuff I used to see written about the neurohelmets was really off the wall. ETA: basically, because of the limitations of the interface, you're not going to get robust control from using it. What you get is sort of like giving your intentions to the DI computer and it translates that into function. |
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And now, to break up the monotony ... For your laughs and otherwise: https://www.sarna.net/news/your-battletech-news-round-up-for-october-2024/ https://archive.is/QhVVi Your BattleTech News Round-Up For October, 2024 2024/10/31 Welcome! It has been a busy month, from a brand-new MechWarrior game releasing to stellar reviews, to many new official product announcements, to a beloved fan-zine self-destructing. All of this happening while in less than a week an American election could spell the end of the Western world as we know it. That may or may not be hyperbole, but I know many Canadians are feeling anxious about how things are going down there. So let’s all take a deep breath and try to remember that war crimes are for the year 3024, not 2024. And with that, onto your BattleTech news for October. 
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Originally Posted By TowerTasteless: Oh good, they defend that lunatic queer that carries a gun to shoot people.she doesn't like at conve tions. He. Brisno is a he. If you go back through the archives the dude seems like a semi-average gun guy before he decided he was a she. I've seen the actual quote itself. Dude said he would ccw to game stores and would defend himself if necessary from the evil nazi (garbledyleftisthystericalwhatever here). ETA: found it.  Also one of the gun thing posts:  I wouldn't be surprised if valk didn't have an arf account at one point (you can cruise his pre-trans delusion posts here https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://twitter.com/einherjarvalk/* ) The pushback crew (barring extra stuff directly around that I haven't seen) don't seem to be on the right side on that particular quote. I suspect misread and not equal standards of language usage being applied. Or someone knows something that wasn't released but they don't want to dump it public. I still wouldn't give brisno the time of day after seeing his behavior. The irony is that he (brisno) and the he/she behind the detocroix furry avatar got in a leftist style windmill slap fight and that's what shot down the this year's LGBTquitlbagsbbqinfinity fanzine pride anthology. We're supposed to believe deto likes BT when deto didn't / doesn't even know that mechs have clear viewports... you know. windows. ----------------------- Sven, the lore videos dude has been dropping playthrough vids of MW5C https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxmAhPtq_sv_oWmeRoliJjW5Y57c-9hW7  MechWarrior 5: Clans (Huntress) - Completing our Trial of Position  MechWarrior 5: Clans (Santander V) - Hunting the Pirate King Helmar Valasek ETA: the stupid over the top wymnpowr and the leader dude being bombastic and dumb are actually correct; for those who don't know. The irony is that the clans aren't racist, even though they're hardcore eugencists. Their bigotries are (if you can believe it) even more stupid. If you're not a gene-altered freak with no family dumped out of a genetic vat their warriors look down their nose at you. Clan society is also explicitly socialist and might makes right; human life has virtually no value to them. So the "eeeu obonxious woke gurlpower" thing doesn't apply here. Their warriors are especially all equally that dumb. Oh, and their warriors are their politicians.  MechWarrior 5: Clans (Turtle Bay) - The Invasion of the Draconis Combine Begins For anyone who doesn't know the setting very well ... the reaction of the characters to turtle bay is completely off. CSJ culture and individuals legit wouldn't care; the clan has done the equivalent before *and used it as a warning* to those they would fight, mongols style. CSJ is known for being that kind of brute and harsh. PGI dropped the ball on that badly. So far it's the part I've seen that sticks out the worst. Minor, but notable: The in game yakking between the characters - clan warriors won't banter about those topics, and they especially wouldn't in combat. Yeah, they're too soft, but I don't expect PGI to comprehend that.  MechWarrior 5: Clans (Courchevel) - A Turning Point in the Clan Invasion  MechWarrior 5: Clans (Garrison Duty) - The Year of Unhappy Peace  MechWarrior 5: Clans (Luthien) - Slaying the Dragon (Crusader Ending) Crusader ending  MechWarrior 5: Clans (Luthien) - The Right Side of History (Warden Ending) Warden ending |
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I haven't bought Clans yet, but I forgot I bought Battletech back in 2018. I installed it and everything but never got around to it and forgot about it. I just started playing it the other night. It was 11pm, next thing I know it's 7am and my son is like hey, take me to school. I think I'm ready to do the last mission to retake the throne, can I still play afterwards? I haven't really gone out too far. I keep meaning to go towards Terra or Solaris. |
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Originally Posted By Chowser: I haven't bought Clans yet, but I forgot I bought Battletech back in 2018. I installed it and everything but never got around to it and forgot about it. I just started playing it the other night. It was 11pm, next thing I know it's 7am and my son is like hey, take me to school. I think I'm ready to do the last mission to retake the throne, can I still play afterwards? I haven't really gone out too far. I keep meaning to go towards Terra or Solaris.
 No way you should have a commando providing body coverage to an atlas. Not tall enough!
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CGL regarding blaine and blue dawn: "don't want us being associated with that!" CGL with anyone else?     -------------- Valk:  Hmm. It's almost like CGL is content to be associated with this stuff and has openly admitted the side they've chosen. Isn't it great that you don't need to give them a penny to play? |
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Originally Posted By Chowser: hahaha, that's awesome! (pun intended) I just got my Steiner Scout Lance together and will start the final campaign mission after the election results. @Chowser Did you notice the atlas has a clipped right satellite dish? I'm guessing the loser that shot at him with the handheld AC2 rolled a glancing shot from 9 hex away and 1 level up behind partial cover, before the rifleman put an ac5 round through his cockpit on a TAC on a hit that required a +8. |
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Wow. He's melting down.   *ahem* Dude transed both of his kids, than has the gall to talk about harming his family.  The Odds of Having a Trans and Pansexual Child Are You a Devouring Mother ? |
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https://megamek.org/release/2024/11/10/New-Development-Release-0.50.01.html MegaMek, the free play BT offline/online with friends hit an update. Release Highlights for MegaMek New Features Custom Deployment Zones: Define custom deployment zones for strategic advantages, such as flanking and ambushes. #5924. Enhanced Scenario Tools and Story Enrichments: Improved tools, AI behaviors, and story elements, featuring custom deployment zones, retreat paths, and event triggers. Check out upgraded Kell’s Hounds scenarios, showcasing these new capabilities to deepen campaign and mission immersion. #5889, #6156, #6157, #6167, #6045. Elevation Selection at Deployment: Choose your unit’s elevation during deployment to gain a tactical advantage over your opponents. #5996. Automatic Unit List Generation: After each skirmish, receive a comprehensive unit list to help track forces and analyze outcomes. #6164. GUI Enhancements to Scaling and Display: Upgraded FlatLaf scaling for improved interface responsiveness, and polished dialogs and menus for an optimized experience. Numerous graphical scaling issues have been addressed to ensure displays appear correctly across resolutions. #6068, #6076, #6103, #6098. Release Highlights for MegaMekLab New Features Armor Pips Grouping: Added an experimental option to display armor pips in groups of five on record sheets, providing a cleaner, more intuitive visual for armor status and damage tracking. #1598. RISC Heat Sink Override Kit: Support for the advanced RISC Heat Sink Override Kit is now included in construction rules. Push your ‘Mek’s heat management to new limits, but beware of the risks! #1643. Enhanced File Handling: You can now open unit and MUL files directly in MegaMekLab through file association or drag-and-drop, streamlining your workflow for quicker design access. #1648. Release Highlights for MekHQ
There is a change in how you start new campaigns. Once you hit “Start a New Campaign”, you will be presented with this screen: Screenshot of the new campaign start screen You’ll need to select “Customize”, then choose your campaign start date, and then the program will launch. New Features Dynamic Hiring Halls: Added dynamic hiring halls to reflect the changing BattleTech universe. Recruitment options now vary by location and events, offering a more immersive experience. #4903. Campaign Operations Contract Market and Negotiation: Implemented a system for generating and negotiating contracts based on BattleTech: Campaign Operations rules. Dive deep into contract negotiations, with terms, conditions, and employer reputations impacting mercenary life. #4644, #4967, #5054. Force Generation 3 and Clan Bidding System: Integrated Force Generation 3, including the Clan bidding and batchall system, allowing Clan commanders to experience the honor-bound bidding process. #4865. Relationship and Childhood Overhaul: Expanded character backstories and interactions by revamping the relationship and childhood systems. Personnel now have richer histories impacting morale and battlefield performance. #4521. Morale System Rework: Overhauled the AtB morale system, now called MekHQ Morale, to reflect the human cost of war on personnel. Keep morale high to maintain unit effectiveness. #4859. Dependents System Overhaul: Decoupled dependents from AtB mechanics, adding a new layer to strategic gameplay by emphasizing the realities of mercenary life. #4463. Unit Images in TO&E: Added the option to display unit images within TO&E, making command decisions more intuitive with visual identification of forces. #5024. Army Group Formation Level: Expanded organizational structure to include the Army Group formation level for better control in grand-scale operations. #4821. Contract Automation: Implemented contract management automation, streamlining the administrative tasks of mercenary commands. #5172. |
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Minor, but notable: The in game yakking between the characters - clan warriors won't banter about those topics, and they especially wouldn't in combat. Yeah, they're too soft, but I don't expect PGI to comprehend that. I watched like 12 seconds of one of those clips and hearing clanners talk with contractions is the kind of thing that shows they really don't get it. Battletech TV show from the 90s that was aimed at 12 year olds was more true to the game world. |
| If you want some entertainment, go check out CGL's most recent Kickstarter campaign they are trying to do for their Voltron RPG/Board game. Opened at $10k and is only at $90k w/ 6 days remaining. They are getting absolutely WRECKED by people complaining about other campaigns not yet being fulfilled and multiple "this person canceled their pledge" notices. It's a beautiful thing! |
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Originally Posted By Paulie771: If you want some entertainment, go check out CGL's most recent Kickstarter campaign they are trying to do for their Voltron RPG/Board game. Opened at $10k and is only at $90k w/ 6 days remaining. They are getting absolutely WRECKED by people complaining about other campaigns not yet being fulfilled and multiple "this person canceled their pledge" notices. It's a beautiful thing! To see what a real gaming kickstarter looks like check out the one for Trench Crusade. Game is looking fantastic. |
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Finally got around to Clans and it keeps crashing. Did all the fixes suggested online and nothing worked. Would do one mission and crash. I don't have a fancy system, only 16gb with a 6gb rtx 3060. ssd. updated drivers. big pagefile. still constantly crashes. finally gave up and turned off the rtx. using the built in amd integrated graphics and no crashes. |
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Originally Posted By Chowser: Finally got around to Clans and it keeps crashing. Did all the fixes suggested online and nothing worked. Would do one mission and crash. I don't have a fancy system, only 16gb with a 6gb rtx 3060. ssd. updated drivers. big pagefile. still constantly crashes. finally gave up and turned off the rtx. using the built in amd integrated graphics and no crashes. |
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Originally Posted By CreativeBall: Is this video still relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAS-AHpE5b0 Kiddos are doing some printing for a game in a couple weeks. Yes. If you're just playing local or with friends, you can use just about anything, including bottle caps. In fact, you don't even have to spend anything if you play the simple quick start rules, available free (officially) here: https://bg.battletech.com/downloads/ You can print out free fan made maps to play on: https://www.ourbattletech.com/downloads/ https://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,520.0.html https://www.sarna.net/files/media/images/maps/hex/ if you want to make cardstock terrain to go on those: https://www.sarna.net/files/media/cardstock/ and you can use these to make paper counters for the mechs to use: http://www.pryderockindustries.com/dl_boards.php If you want to get a feel for the flow of the game and not do the dice rolling yourself: https://megamek.org/downloads.html Grab just megamek. READ THE INSTALL INSTRUCTIONS.  If you have trouble with the program, youtube has tons of tutorials from basic to ... sky is the limit, and you can come ask here. At its very base, the game is not complex. Maneuver and fire, track your heat buildup and ammo for ammo using weapons, track your damage. I'd suggest the quick start rules for the first time you run it on tabletop. You want a bunch of D6 dice and get several different colors, it can be handy to put a dice down next to a mech indicating how many hex it has moved and (color coordinated) if it ran, walked, or jumped. If you're complaining about missing all the time, that's normal - and you're not doing it right. The basic game gives you a number you have to roll on two six sided dice in order to hit your overall target. Just my 2c, and the situation will change what's viable and what's not, but shots requiring more than 6 are hard shots. Shots on 7s can happen. 8s and up are hail-marys. @CreativeBall |
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Also, for your first few outings, esp for the kids if they are younger, give them 2 medium mechs each, no more. Only two, because the game moves slowly, esp when you are learning. Not just one, because in BT a good dice roll on a hit against a fresh mech can take it out quickly, and that can be disappointing to a new player. Once you are comfortable running the game, there are all sorts of tricks to make it run faster and smoother. Be aware, BT is very much a "there IS a rule for that" game. It has been adding that sort of thing since the 1980s. Do not slavishly adhere to everything, don't sweat which faction or what era to play the game in. I *would* reccomend you start with the easier tech levels. This corresponds to (very generically! mucho exceptions, etc.) 3025. You will also likely see things indicating starter or introductory level rules. If you add a boatload of advanced rules, the game can get hideously complex. Just learn to get the the foundational game down and enjoy it first. MEGAMEK: you proobably need to read this page if it's your first time installing and/or running it. |
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Also, for your first few outings, esp for the kids if they are younger, give them 2 medium mechs each, no more. Only two, because the game moves slowly, esp when you are learning. Not just one, because in BT a good dice roll on a hit against a fresh mech can take it If you play with Chameleons, you're using historically accurate training mechs, too. |
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Also, for your first few outings, esp for the kids if they are younger, give them 2 medium mechs each, no more. Only two, because the game moves slowly, esp when you are learning. Not just one, because in BT a good dice roll on a hit against a fresh mech can take it out quickly, and that can be disappointing to a new player. Once you are comfortable running the game, there are all sorts of tricks to make it run faster and smoother. Be aware, BT is very much a "there IS a rule for that" game. It has been adding that sort of thing since the 1980s. Do not slavishly adhere to everything, don't sweat which faction or what era to play the game in. I *would* reccomend you start with the easier tech levels. This corresponds to (very generically! mucho exceptions, etc.) 3025. You will also likely see things indicating starter or introductory level rules. If you add a boatload of advanced rules, the game can get hideously complex. Just learn to get the the foundational game down and enjoy it first. MEGAMEK: you proobably need to read this page if it's your first time installing and/or running it. I have played MegaMek and run a few campaigns with it. I wish that the Battletech video game was like it. I enjoyed the micromanaging part of getting enough parts to run my company! Attached File We are putting out two companies to square off for the first match. I've got 7 kids participating, and I'm looking to run the opforce, at least until they get the hang of it. I'm scaling it to 1.5" to make cutting the supports out easier. I have a few more hills to print and then a small town next. Thank for for the advice - I was thinking 3030ish IS tech only if only for ease of play and balance. I'll let you know how it goes |
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Originally Posted By CreativeBall: I have played MegaMek and run a few campaigns with it. I wish that the Battletech video game was like it. I enjoyed the micromanaging part of getting enough parts to run my company! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/553184/1000003291_jpg-3414557.JPG We are putting out two companies to square off for the first match. I've got 7 kids participating, and I'm looking to run the opforce, at least until they get the hang of it. I'm scaling it to 1.5" to make cutting the supports out easier. I have a few more hills to print and then a small town next. Thank for for the advice - I was thinking 3030ish IS tech only if only for ease of play and balance. I'll let you know how it goes |
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Originally Posted By CreativeBall: I have played MegaMek and run a few campaigns with it. I wish that the Battletech video game was like it. I enjoyed the micromanaging part of getting enough parts to run my company! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/553184/1000003291_jpg-3414557.JPG We are putting out two companies to square off for the first match. I've got 7 kids participating, and I'm looking to run the opforce, at least until they get the hang of it. I'm scaling it to 1.5" to make cutting the supports out easier. I have a few more hills to print and then a small town next. Thank for for the advice - I was thinking 3030ish IS tech only if only for ease of play and balance. I'll let you know how it goes What Paulie said, but id also add.... if you have multiple different kids you will need to run herd a bit to keep them from having long stretches of doing nothing (IE: bored kids). If the kids just want to do a bunch of 1v1s, then that shouldn't be an issue. If the kids like to use good tactics (especially if there is a miss-balance on which side uses tactics), then you run a ton of risk of some kids spending most of the game sitting around watching other kids have fun. Regardless, good luck and have fun. |
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Nothing about the fixes on https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/MechWarrior_5:_Clans yet... can you pass us links or post some good search terms for the fixes you mentioned? i still get crashes using the integrated graphics, but I have to be playing for over 45 minutes straight (like doing horde) so I just quit after 30 mins of playtime then restart the whole computer.  I was trying suggestions from these two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iofBWA4a2PU&ab_channel=MenakaTechWorld https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiswjVKGx4g&ab_channel=AndroidDataRecovery |
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Originally Posted By CreativeBall: I have played MegaMek and run a few campaigns with it. I wish that the Battletech video game was like it. I enjoyed the micromanaging part of getting enough parts to run my company! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/553184/1000003291_jpg-3414557.JPG We are putting out two companies to square off for the first match. I've got 7 kids participating, and I'm looking to run the opforce, at least until they get the hang of it. I'm scaling it to 1.5" to make cutting the supports out easier. I have a few more hills to print and then a small town next. Thank for for the advice - I was thinking 3030ish IS tech only if only for ease of play and balance. I'll let you know how it goes Originally Posted By CreativeBall: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Also, for your first few outings, esp for the kids if they are younger, give them 2 medium mechs each, no more. Only two, because the game moves slowly, esp when you are learning. Not just one, because in BT a good dice roll on a hit against a fresh mech can take it out quickly, and that can be disappointing to a new player. Once you are comfortable running the game, there are all sorts of tricks to make it run faster and smoother. Be aware, BT is very much a "there IS a rule for that" game. It has been adding that sort of thing since the 1980s. Do not slavishly adhere to everything, don't sweat which faction or what era to play the game in. I *would* reccomend you start with the easier tech levels. This corresponds to (very generically! mucho exceptions, etc.) 3025. You will also likely see things indicating starter or introductory level rules. If you add a boatload of advanced rules, the game can get hideously complex. Just learn to get the the foundational game down and enjoy it first. MEGAMEK: you proobably need to read this page if it's your first time installing and/or running it. I have played MegaMek and run a few campaigns with it. I wish that the Battletech video game was like it. I enjoyed the micromanaging part of getting enough parts to run my company! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/553184/1000003291_jpg-3414557.JPG We are putting out two companies to square off for the first match. I've got 7 kids participating, and I'm looking to run the opforce, at least until they get the hang of it. I'm scaling it to 1.5" to make cutting the supports out easier. I have a few more hills to print and then a small town next. Thank for for the advice - I was thinking 3030ish IS tech only if only for ease of play and balance. I'll let you know how it goes Definitely give us the after action report. If you want to run it as a minatures game and not on the hex rules, grab the minis rules on the bg.bt link. |
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Originally Posted By Chowser: i still get crashes using the integrated graphics, but I have to be playing for over 45 minutes straight (like doing horde) so I just quit after 30 mins of playtime then restart the whole computer. I was trying suggestions from these two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iofBWA4a2PU&ab_channel=MenakaTechWorld https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiswjVKGx4g&ab_channel=AndroidDataRecovery Originally Posted By Chowser: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Nothing about the fixes on https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/MechWarrior_5:_Clans yet... can you pass us links or post some good search terms for the fixes you mentioned? I was trying suggestions from these two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iofBWA4a2PU&ab_channel=MenakaTechWorld https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiswjVKGx4g&ab_channel=AndroidDataRecovery |
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Originally Posted By darkpaladin1: What Paulie said, but id also add.... if you have multiple different kids you will need to run herd a bit to keep them from having long stretches of doing nothing (IE: bored kids). If the kids just want to do a bunch of 1v1s, then that shouldn't be an issue. If the kids like to use good tactics (especially if there is a miss-balance on which side uses tactics), then you run a ton of risk of some kids spending most of the game sitting around watching other kids have fun. Regardless, good luck and have fun. Originally Posted By darkpaladin1: Originally Posted By CreativeBall: I have played MegaMek and run a few campaigns with it. I wish that the Battletech video game was like it. I enjoyed the micromanaging part of getting enough parts to run my company! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/553184/1000003291_jpg-3414557.JPG We are putting out two companies to square off for the first match. I've got 7 kids participating, and I'm looking to run the opforce, at least until they get the hang of it. I'm scaling it to 1.5" to make cutting the supports out easier. I have a few more hills to print and then a small town next. Thank for for the advice - I was thinking 3030ish IS tech only if only for ease of play and balance. I'll let you know how it goes Also, making sure nobody is using stuff like an LRM20 or things that require massive amounts of rolling can help. Or alternative get a 20 space clear fishing takle box, number each space, fill it with dice, and make an LRM box roller of DOOOOOOMMMM.
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: If he's up for it, he could have them run several groups simultaneously so there is less waiting. Also, making sure nobody is using stuff like an LRM20 or things that require massive amounts of rolling can help. Or alternative get a 20 space clear fishing takle box, number each space, fill it with dice, and make an LRM box roller of DOOOOOOMMMM. LRM20s group damage by 5s. LB-X ACs are going to eat the clock. An average hit with a 10 is going to be 6 1-point hit locations, a 20 is going to be 12 1 point hit locations. But if you want to replicate the experience of filling out Scantron test sheets in school, LB X ACs are the way. |
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Originally Posted By Sirveaux: LRM20s group damage by 5s. LB-X ACs are going to eat the clock. An average hit with a 10 is going to be 6 1-point hit locations, a 20 is going to be 12 1 point hit locations. But if you want to replicate the experience of filling out Scantron test sheets in school, LB X ACs are the way. Originally Posted By Sirveaux: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: If he's up for it, he could have them run several groups simultaneously so there is less waiting. Also, making sure nobody is using stuff like an LRM20 or things that require massive amounts of rolling can help. Or alternative get a 20 space clear fishing takle box, number each space, fill it with dice, and make an LRM box roller of DOOOOOOMMMM. LRM20s group damage by 5s. LB-X ACs are going to eat the clock. An average hit with a 10 is going to be 6 1-point hit locations, a 20 is going to be 12 1 point hit locations. But if you want to replicate the experience of filling out Scantron test sheets in school, LB X ACs are the way. |
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: I mean ... if you are training mathlete kids to play, break out the heavy LRM and SRM carriers? Kraken rocks 10 LB2Xs or Ultra AC2, I forget which. Roll forever, then roll for 1 or 2 hits per gun, then roll 1 point hit locations. Then decide "clans suck" and go back to playing in 3025 forever. |
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Originally Posted By CreativeBall: How do you feel about using MegaMek to shadow run the game and then use it to resolve every turn? Originally Posted By CreativeBall: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: I mean ... if you are training mathlete kids to play, break out the heavy LRM and SRM carriers? Also, I'm not quite sure exactly what goal you'd have in mind for that, so I don't have much past that. Some years back I know cgl or such released some really useful GM screens with all your charts and stuff for free on the net, but those have long since dissappeared. |
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Originally Posted By Sirveaux: Kraken rocks 10 LB2Xs or Ultra AC2, I forget which. Roll forever, then roll for 1 or 2 hits per gun, then roll 1 point hit locations. Then decide "clans suck" and go back to playing in 3025 forever. Originally Posted By Sirveaux: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: I mean ... if you are training mathlete kids to play, break out the heavy LRM and SRM carriers? Roll forever, then roll for 1 or 2 hits per gun, then roll 1 point hit locations. Then decide "clans suck" and go back to playing in 3025 forever. Or be me, be the dummy that walks right up to a hardened bunker and find out your friend deploed all his heavy SRM2 equipped BA's in there and they saturate your hit table and shake your pilot into a pink mist. |
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Heh. Or be me, be the dummy that walks right up to a hardened bunker and find out your friend deploed all his heavy SRM2 equipped BA's in there and they saturate your hit table and shake your pilot into a pink mist. Or LR DFMs before the 5-missile cluster was added back in, and before the Tac Handbook got nerfed into oblivion. Salamander making good hits could easily be 36 2 point rolls. I really miss tandem charge warheads making elementals obsolete. |
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Originally Posted By Sirveaux: Or LR DFMs before the 5-missile cluster was added back in, and before the Tac Handbook got nerfed into oblivion. Salamander making good hits could easily be 36 2 point rolls. I really miss tandem charge warheads making elementals obsolete. Originally Posted By Sirveaux: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Heh. Or be me, be the dummy that walks right up to a hardened bunker and find out your friend deploed all his heavy SRM2 equipped BA's in there and they saturate your hit table and shake your pilot into a pink mist. Salamander making good hits could easily be 36 2 point rolls. I really miss tandem charge warheads making elementals obsolete.  |
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gh1T76kbEAA0fdg?format=jpg&name=orig Anastasius Focht was one of the greatest trolls in literary history. |
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Originally Posted By darkpaladin1: Anastasius Focht was one of the greatest trolls in literary history. Originally Posted By darkpaladin1: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gh1T76kbEAA0fdg?format=jpg&name=orig |
