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6/24/2018 1:59:03 AM EDT
Need to start formally home schooling the 6 yo.  New to it so wanting to get more of a turn key type deal, maybe in future years would mix things up or work things out on a personal basis, but not at the beginning.

We are christian, wife a bit more than me... frankly I am somewhat of a skeptic, not just about religion but generally, as much a temperament or disposition as anything.  I am very traditional, into traditional western values, history, morals etc, just a bit...wary of buying some curriculum that might be especially religious, or religious in a different way.

Are there any curriculum that are are more just into teaching western history and traditional  values w/o so much of the religious stuff.

I heard tom wooods and ron paul had some liberty oriented project going but I am not A super hardcore libertarian either...

Thanks so much
6/24/2018 6:43:49 AM EDT
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Story of the World series by Susan Wise Bauer.
"If this is how The State treats its law-abiding citizens, then it deserves to have none." -Alexandr Solzhenitsyn
7/15/2018 11:10:37 PM EDT
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Story of the World is slighty religious but pretty good.

Beautiful feet series is also good.

Two different styles....one is using historical novels as a basis (Beautiful Feet) the other is a story book approach to world history.  Do not expect much US history from Story of the World.

Five In a Row is supposed to be good, gentle for younger kids.  Im not terribly familiar with it.

You'd be surprised how much a 6yr old can get just from reading with them and not alot of formal curriculum.

Critical Thinking company has good logic based Math books.  They also have some good ELA books.

Time4Learning has a fairly complete curriculum a child can work their way thru.

Mrs
7/18/2018 9:42:49 PM EDT
[#3]
thanks guys
8/10/2018 9:27:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spartacus2002:
Story of the World series by Susan Wise Bauer.
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I have not read the books, but we have listened to the CDs two or three times on long trips.  While it was not favorable toward Catholicism, I did not find horribly objectionable.  At those points I disagreed with, I paused the CD, and provided the Catholic side.

If you are not Christian, I can sort of understand why you would not want a Christian textbook.  However, if you are Christian, I don't understand why you would want a program that omits, neglects, or vilifies Christianity.  If you believe that Christianity is true, why not teach them the truth as you know it?  Even if you don't believe it's true, Christianity has had the most significant and indelible impact on the world than any entity that has ever existed.  Not something to be obscured.
1/14/2019 4:25:50 PM EDT
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All curriculum is religious.

Some of it just pretends not to be (secular humanism).

religion - a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

The entire public school system is built on secular humanism with open hostility and bans on other faiths, unless they are being described as outdated traditions and thinking from the past.

No matter what curriculum you choose, there will be some type of religion contained in it or that it is founded upon.

You have to decide which aligns best with your values, or find out what your values even are, because decades of programming from school and society very much inundates us with secular humanism, materialism, self-worship, idolatry of public icons, fashion, and values that are in direct opposition to a true education.
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1/14/2019 6:49:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By abnk:
If you are not Christian, I can sort of understand why you would not want a Christian textbook.  However, if you are Christian, I don't understand why you would want a program that omits, neglects, or vilifies Christianity.  If you believe that Christianity is true, why not teach them the truth as you know it?  Even if you don't believe it's true, Christianity has had the most significant and indelible impact on the world than any entity that has ever existed.  Not something to be obscured.
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The problem is when a curriculum goes overboard with religious nonsense so that the kids are not learning the true material.  You might not see it a lot in the math courses, or English grammar, or handwriting.

But I saw it a LOT in lots of different science curricula that explained away damn near everything as "Why does ______ happen? Because God wanted it that way! Isn't God wonderful?"  That's not teaching the kids anything scientific; that's omitting, neglecting, or vilifying science itself.  God might want the planets to orbit per Kepler's laws of planetary motion, but you still have to learn Kepler's laws.

That is the root of my problem with "Christian" science courses.

History is another matter altogether.  That's always going to be propagandized by one faction or another.
Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back. -Heraclitus
1/15/2019 6:30:57 AM EDT
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There is one catholic program whose math workbooks, for example, has the kids adding up monstrances lol
1/15/2019 7:10:56 AM EDT
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I taught World History occasionally in High School. You can’t teach history without religion.  Before America was founded, there was no separation of church and state. The church was the state.
1/15/2019 9:27:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spartacus2002:

The problem is when a curriculum goes overboard with religious nonsense so that the kids are not learning the true material.  You might not see it a lot in the math courses, or English grammar, or handwriting.

But I saw it a LOT in lots of different science curricula that explained away damn near everything as "Why does ______ happen? Because God wanted it that way! Isn't God wonderful?"  That's not teaching the kids anything scientific; that's omitting, neglecting, or vilifying science itself.  God might want the planets to orbit per Kepler's laws of planetary motion, but you still have to learn Kepler's laws.

That is the root of my problem with "Christian" science courses.

History is another matter altogether.  That's always going to be propagandized by one faction or another.
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Wow.  I guess I have not witnessed any of that.

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1/15/2019 10:47:23 PM EDT
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Wow.  I guess I have not witnessed any of that.
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Originally Posted By abnk:
Originally Posted By spartacus2002:

The problem is when a curriculum goes overboard with religious nonsense so that the kids are not learning the true material.  You might not see it a lot in the math courses, or English grammar, or handwriting.

But I saw it a LOT in lots of different science curricula that explained away damn near everything as "Why does ______ happen? Because God wanted it that way! Isn't God wonderful?"  That's not teaching the kids anything scientific; that's omitting, neglecting, or vilifying science itself.  God might want the planets to orbit per Kepler's laws of planetary motion, but you still have to learn Kepler's laws.

That is the root of my problem with "Christian" science courses.

History is another matter altogether.  That's always going to be propagandized by one faction or another.
Wow.  I guess I have not witnessed any of that.
It happens.
Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back. -Heraclitus
9/5/2019 3:58:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Adalebert:
Are there any curriculum that are are more just into teaching western
history and traditional  values w/o so much of the religious stuff.
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Keep in mind that some knowledge about religion(s) and
the part it has played in MANY civilizations is important.

Two sounds a little young beyond socialization and
learning how to color inside the lines.

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