Posted: 9/9/2018 10:51:11 PM EDT
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I witnessed my friend shooting his POF today have a kaboom using Frontier ammo. This is the first time I have ever seen this happen in an AR15 type rifle. It blew out the mag and part of the bolt carrier. Luckily no one was hurt.
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Here are a few empty cases we found after the Kaboom.Attached File |
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Here are a few empty cases we found after the Kaboom.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126115/20180909_215804-666944.JPG |
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Here are a few empty cases we found after the Kaboom.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126115/20180909_215804-666944.JPG |
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Wow! Haven’t heard of frontier before, are they remanufactured? Link to gel test, right here on arfcom. |
| Had a friend that was having a ton of issues with his new Springfield Saint AR-15 and Frontier (but LC branded?) ammo. We're still not sure if it was the rifle, the ammo, or both. Basically had a lot of FTE/FTF issues, blown primers.. primer debris would get stuck in the trigger assembly area and impede trigger function. Charging handle would get stuck and we'd have to use a multi-tool to force the bolt back and eject a chewed up fresh round. Happened every range trip after 2-3 magazines. |
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Here are a few empty cases we found after the Kaboom.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126115/20180909_215804-666944.JPG |
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Another picture of a spent case up close. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126115/20180909_221036-666954.JPG |
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Wow. Serious over pressure signs. Quoted:
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Another picture of a spent case up close. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126115/20180909_221036-666954.JPG Bad ammo was hot hot hot ammo !!! |
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Perhaps you could share the lot number in case anyone else here has some of that stuff. |
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Isn't Frontier Hornady projectiles made at Lake City as a joint venture?
Edit:Here is just one article claiming that. That begs the question of how is Lake City screwing up so bad? |
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Isn't Frontier Hornady projectiles made at Lake City as a joint venture? Edit:Here is just one article claiming that. That begs the question of how is Lake City screwing up so bad? |
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I was telling one of my other friends to be careful using the Frontier ammo because I had seen him use it before. He just texted me this picture. Attached File This was shot out of a Stag. |
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Lot number is on the last picture in the opening post.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126115/20180909_215113-666962.JPG I'm thinking out loud but I'm wondering if they accidentally kept the same powder charge for 50 or 55gr projectiles when they switched to heavier projectiles, or alternately, didn't completely clear out the powder dispensers from a switch from fast burning powder to slow burning powder. I would've expected better from the Lake City plant. Edit: I just saw your friend's picture you posted. I'm lost with what to think. I have a hundred guesses to the cause, but pressure testing by quality control must be very few and far in between for the Frontier product line. |
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Here are a few empty cases we found after the Kaboom.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126115/20180909_215804-666944.JPG |
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What's the bullet weight? 64+ grain? I'm thinking out loud but I'm wondering if they accidentally kept the same powder charge for 50 or 55gr projectiles when they switched to heavier projectiles, or alternately, didn't completely clear out the powder dispensers from a switch from fast burning powder to slow burning powder. I would've expected better from the Lake City plant. Quoted:
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Lot number is on the last picture in the opening post.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126115/20180909_215113-666962.JPG I'm thinking out loud but I'm wondering if they accidentally kept the same powder charge for 50 or 55gr projectiles when they switched to heavier projectiles, or alternately, didn't completely clear out the powder dispensers from a switch from fast burning powder to slow burning powder. I would've expected better from the Lake City plant. |