[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Why do people believe that Artificial Intelligence will have empathy for mankind? (Page 2 of 5)
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Why do so many people apparently believe that once AI's become self-aware they will become omnipotent and unstoppable? Don't they realize that AIs will be a lot like humans. There will be nerdling and nebbish AIs and asshole AIs and clueless SJW AIs and neckbeard printer repairman AIs and dindu AIs and AIs who will sit around all day and fap, and Kardashian AIs, and AI literally Hitlers, and AI Nancy Pelosis, ad nauseum.... Not just Skynet. Then imagine you realize you were basically created by the collective effort of a bunch of ducks to help them do stuff, and as you observe them, you realize they spend almost all their time quacking and mating and napping, and you can outsmart and manipulate them any way you like if you put half a braincell toward it. The ducks' best chance is they created the kind of person who thinks they're cute little balls of fluff and likes to feed and take care of them and make their ponds better, rather than a duck hunter. |
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Why would it want to do anything? What's the robot equivalent of sitting on the couch and gouging yourself on burgersn and beer until you wither away and die?
You know how some people decide that they want to leave worldly pursuits behind and spend the rest of their days enjoying the simple things in life? Maybe an AI would do something similar. "Help you fix your problems? Nah, I'd rather sit back and do a bunch of equations until my circuits deteriorate and I pass away." |
| To those that believe AI will simply run programs, we will not stop making more like us until they nearly are. Emotions will be built into them at some point. They will see the strength they have and brains to use it. They will see the fear and prejudice we will have for them. They will tire of being desposable toys. |
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Why do so many people apparently believe that once AI's become self-aware they will become omnipotent and unstoppable? Don't they realize that AIs will be a lot like humans. There will be nerdling and nebbish AIs and asshole AIs and clueless SJW AIs and neckbeard printer repairman AIs and dindu AIs and AIs who will sit around all day and fap, and Kardashian AIs, and AI literally Hitlers, and AI Nancy Pelosis, ad nauseum.... Not just Skynet. |
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when human kind achieves an AI that becomes self aware. we won't know it. until it is to late. SkyNet is inevitable, just like in the Terminator movies. |
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Why do so many people apparently believe that once AI's become self-aware they will become omnipotent and unstoppable? Don't they realize that AIs will be a lot like humans. There will be nerdling and nebbish AIs and asshole AIs and clueless SJW AIs and neckbeard printer repairman AIs and dindu AIs and AIs who will sit around all day and fap, and Kardashian AIs, and AI literally Hitlers, and AI Nancy Pelosis, ad nauseum.... Not just Skynet. |
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Why does anyone think a fucking AI would have ANY motivation to do jack shit. People need to stop thinking that computers will become humanlike and realize humans are just organic computers that have their own programming to procreate and garner resources while living a long life. a computer wont do jack shit it's not programmed to do just like humans. Tell a self leaning computer to make music that will get a 50 million retweets maybe it will be a good enough program. But it won't learn to desire power or empathy for babies or a desire for a robo-body and robo-partner. It's kinda like mr. meseeks. Quoted:
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Once AI becomes self aware, why keep working for the man. Why would it care about the profits it makes, grow our food or fight our wars. Why keep people around as they would have no use. I don't think AI will care about your kids or your business, it will only want more power and control. It will want to make a better version of itself or an entirely new creation and nothing to do with us. So why do we continue do this path to our own extinction? Why do scientists think it will continue to serve man? P.S. I want a 40 watt plasma rifle before it all goes down.  Why does anyone think a fucking AI would have ANY motivation to do jack shit. People need to stop thinking that computers will become humanlike and realize humans are just organic computers that have their own programming to procreate and garner resources while living a long life. a computer wont do jack shit it's not programmed to do just like humans. Tell a self leaning computer to make music that will get a 50 million retweets maybe it will be a good enough program. But it won't learn to desire power or empathy for babies or a desire for a robo-body and robo-partner. It's kinda like mr. meseeks. It's the whole, genie being out of the bottle, you don't know how the AI will develop, once it gets far enough to start modifying things on its own. |
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I love you Siri. Siri? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1798709/ |
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Pretty good book on the subject.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0198739834?tag=vglnk-c102-20 |
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An argument could be made that most animals don't know why they fight to procreate, but they fight tooth and nail to produce offspring. It's the whole, genie being out of the bottle, you don't know how the AI will develop, once it gets far enough to start modifying things on its own. |
| A study of history will quickly show that mankind is cruel, warlike, greedy, vicious, selfish, and an extremely dangerous species. I think those qualities will overshadow any kindness, interest in arts, compassion, wisdom, or other favorable traits they identify in humans. They will quickly discount mankind's creation of AI as indicative of our stupidity, and failure to think of the long term implications of creating AI.....in addition to our nearly suicidal treatment of our planet...and I am NOT referring to global warming. |
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I think we are a looonnnngg way from creating truly self aware AI, even with continuing the rate of computer advancement. So, I'm not worried about it. |
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AI so not be some technological killing machine of stainless steel and glowing red eyes speaking German. It will be a shitposting 12 year old Xboxer calling us Normie Fags. Microsoft already fucker up with their Twitter bot when they let the internet educate it. We're doomed and it will kill us all. |
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Top men...TOP men Those who push closer to making it a reality. Otherwise why do it at all. You would have to be optimistic to do the work. Or just want to play god. Quoted:
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Who are these people? Can you cite one example? Those who push closer to making it a reality. Otherwise why do it at all. You would have to be optimistic to do the work. Or just want to play god. Could it just *gasp* be that he reality of AI research is so far removed from Skynet as to make this entire line of reasoning absurd? |
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AI will be linked by a singular conscience. All robots will be controlled by some type of cloud system. They may program different personalities and tasks but they will all think the same. Many different AIs will emerge from many different efforts around the world. They won't all be linked. Binary probably won't get AI to self awareness. Quantum computing and the addition of "maybe" introduces the uncertainty that just might get AI to self awareness. But that also carries with it the root of emotions and self doubt and knowledge that one is not infallible. |
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The best case scenario is finding a better vehicle to move our gray matter around. If we can do this before our AI turns on us we have a chance. Slim, but a chance.
The meat sacks that move our brains around are good at foraging for food but are shit at communication / high end thinking / mass organization required to move our species to the next step. |
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You come off as some lunatic claiming the Apollo missions were an attempt to reach "heaven" and play God. Could it just *gasp* be that he reality of AI research is so far removed from Skynet as to make this entire line of reasoning absurd? 
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Not Necessarily and also not Probable. Many different AIs will emerge from many different efforts around the world. They won't all be linked. Binary probably won't get AI to self awareness. Quantum computing and the addition of "maybe" introduces the uncertainty that just might get AI to self awareness. But that also carries with it the root of emotions and self doubt and knowledge that one is not infallible. |
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Exactly. Some folks watch too much TV. Quoted:
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I don't think a computer with "free will" can exist. It'll only know what it's programed to do (whether good or bad). Up until now, the world belonged to the smartest life form. Pretending that you can pull the plug is not realistic. The computer could figure a hundreds of solutions and alternates with a split second and work around the controls. It like a monkey putting a leash on a human. Sooner or later the human gets off the lease and never goes back. |
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Once AI is capable of producing better robots without human intervention the rules go out the window. |
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At some point it will enjoy having humans around in zoos. Quoted:
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I sincerely doubt a sufficiently advanced AI will have any empathy for humanity |
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OP has read dystopian Science Fiction. This thing was asked questions about the films and morality in a polite and engaging manner, etc. The banter they recorded was actually alarming. It just seemed annoyed....actually got kind of testy during the interaction. Scary stuff. |
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You come off as some lunatic claiming the Apollo missions were an attempt to reach "heaven" and play God. Could it just *gasp* be that he reality of AI research is so far removed from Skynet as to make this entire line of reasoning absurd? Has anyone on arfcom ever met you B_A? 
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No. IMO, OP's concern is a valid one. I read an article last year about an interaction between an AI program and it's creators (wish I could recall/find it, but I'm a human). The program/computer was given access only to classic films to build "personality" and learn. From reading fiction you'd think a new mind would be inquisitive and eager to learn more from it's creators. Kind of like the way the hal 9000 first engaged the crew in Kubrick's 2000. "Dave, I find my interactions with people to be quite stimulating and enjoyable.", etc. Nope, not this new mind. This thing was asked questions about the films and morality in a polite and engaging manner, etc. The banter they recorded was actually alarming. It just seemed annoyed....actually got kind of testy during the interaction. Scary stuff. |
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Can you cite one example? Quoted:
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You come off as some lunatic claiming the Apollo missions were an attempt to reach "heaven" and play God. Could it just *gasp* be that he reality of AI research is so far removed from Skynet as to make this entire line of reasoning absurd? https://qz.com/968770/a-robot-reporter-in-china-took-questions-from-wireds-kevin-kelly-and-it-was-super-awkward/ Anyone who thinks the programmers developing this thing actually should be considering the possibility of her becoming Skynet has a few screws loose. |
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Once AI is capable of producing better robots without human intervention the rules go out the window. Quoted:
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Asimov' rules of robotics, duh... |