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7/22/2026 9:00:38 AM EDT
[#1]
45 min
15 min mile ( best time)
1 new hip
1 new knee
1 shot knee
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7/22/2026 9:03:57 AM EDT
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Treadmill speed is usually 3.1 - 3.5 mph.

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Yep. This. Right there with you.

Slow motion run = motivated walk
7/22/2026 9:06:08 AM EDT
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5k a few days ago in 26:10

Im not a runner and dont enjoy it but bi-annual PFT is a thing
7/22/2026 9:07:37 AM EDT
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I'll also be signing up for a 5k run and gun this December. It's a 5k 2 gun competition and you have to tak everything you need with you. Not sure if it's with armor or just a chest rig yet, but I'll be good either way.
7/22/2026 9:07:39 AM EDT
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I don't run outside much anymore. The ground is too hard, and my body is too old.  
I've been getting back into it on the treadmill, though. Right now, I could knock out three in under 30 minutes.
It would barely be under 30, but it would be under.
I'm at the point, a 10-minute mile pace is comfortable. I can run a nine, possibly even an eight, but not multiples.
Gettin' there.
Once I can run multiple 9s,  I'd start working on running longer, not faster.
My goal is to be able to run a respectable 10K, for real.
7/22/2026 9:20:14 AM EDT
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This is now the second subject I've seen on running times. I'm not a quick runner, certainly nowhere near many of you, but I have a story behind my run time.

Last August I had some chest pains and went to my doc, did a bunch of tests including a heart stress test and found out my pains were muscular, but not related to my heart. Dodged the bullet, but I also found I had become very lazy to the point the stress test made me very tired. Over the years, I'd become a couch potato, even though I'm very thin. Add to that my age (62), plus T2 diabetes and cancer, and I figured I was heading down the wrong path quickly.

I got off my ass and decided to start running. My initial accomplishment was a pathetic 1/4 mile at 4.5 mph before I got too tired to continue. I could also only manage 10 pushups and sit-ups. Embarrassing. Anyway, I began with that and slowly increased both my distance and speed using milestones. Eventually, I was able to hit one mile, then two, then three and so on. I also increased my speed, slowly going from 4.5 to 5 mph, which I initially thought was unreachable, and faster later on. I mixed in exercise time with goals of 15 minutes, then 30, etc. As I was getting faster and my endurance built up, I then wanted to be able to pass the AF fitness test (for my current age - 18:21) from when I was active duty some 30+ years ago.

It has not yet been one year, but I now run for one hour every other day, hitting 5~6 miles in the 60 minutes, plus I manage 30 real pushups and 30 sit-ups in one minute each. For running, I start off fast and I can now easily pass the old AF's 1.5 mile test time in under 16 minutes, before I settle to a slower, steadier pace for the rest of the hour. Long story, but my 3-mile time works out to about 32 minutes. Not blazing fast, but I'm working on it. I eventually hope to pass the current AF run time and pushup and sit-up requirement. My pushup and sit-up goal is 50 each.

My endurance for any physical activity has gone up exponentially - just ask the wife . My headaches have practically disappeared and my blood sugar, which had been increasing, has dropped like a rock - 2022=113.2, 2023=116.6, 2024=119.4, 2025=118.6, 2026=103.8. In fact, I've been under 100 the past 3 out of four months - this morning my blood sugar was 81! I hope to get rid of those meds.

Anyway, that's my 3-mile time and story.
7/22/2026 9:21:42 AM EDT
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Same here. I can walk it in less than an hour, but I'll never run 3 miles again even though that was just the warmup run in high school.
7/22/2026 9:22:17 AM EDT
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Running is great for cardiovascular health. Challenging yourself is great for mental health. You'll be amazed how much the pain goes away after running 2-3 days a week for two weeks. Give it a try. Run a mile, then next time run two miles, then run three miles and then beat your one mile time, your two mile time and three mile time. You will love it then stop all the complaining about running.
7/22/2026 9:24:21 AM EDT
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Knees are shot from the oilfields so no running nowadays.

Still walk but haven't timed myself.
7/22/2026 9:28:57 AM EDT
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I'll also be signing up for a 5k run and gun this December. It's a 5k 2 gun competition and you have to tak everything you need with you. Not sure if it's with armor or just a chest rig yet, but I'll be good either way.

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I did the one at Sawmill in SC a month or so ago. Hated it. The shooting was elementary at best and it wound up being 4.1 miles. I jogged or walked most of it. I'm used to hunting at night in the same gear for hours on end, so I definitely didn't need a gear proving session. Just not for me.
7/22/2026 9:30:10 AM EDT
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Running is great for cardiovascular health. Challenging yourself is great for mental health. You'll be amazed how much the pain goes away after running 2-3 days a week for two weeks. Give it a try. Run a mile, then next time run two miles, then run three miles and then beat your one mile time, your two mile time and three mile time. You will love it then stop all the complaining about running.
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I did that for a while when I was younger. If I run more than once every 5 days I get horrible shin splints. I was about 185lbs at the time. At 230lbs now with the heaviest lifts I've ever done, it ain't happening.
7/22/2026 9:31:00 AM EDT
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I did the one at Sawmill in SC a month or so ago. Hated it. The shooting was elementary at best and it wound up being 4.1 miles. I jogged or walked most of it. I'm used to hunting at night in the same gear for hours on end, so I definitely didn't need a gear proving session. Just not for me.
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Sawmill complex is nice. The RNG wasn't good?
7/22/2026 9:43:48 AM EDT
[#13]
An hour
7/22/2026 9:45:55 AM EDT
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I did the one at Sawmill in SC a month or so ago. Hated it. The shooting was elementary at best and it wound up being 4.1 miles. I jogged or walked most of it. I'm used to hunting at night in the same gear for hours on end, so I definitely didn't need a gear proving session. Just not for me.


Sawmill complex is nice. The RNG wasn't good?


It was almost all run and very little gun. They had that amazing complex and didn't utilize it very much. I left disappointed. My buddies built it up like it was some kind of insane special event, but a regular ass Cola Warrior is infinitely more challenging and enjoyable unless you just like running in your kit for fun.
7/22/2026 9:52:39 AM EDT
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In which vehicle and which gear?  
7/22/2026 9:57:07 AM EDT
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I did the one at Sawmill in SC a month or so ago. Hated it. The shooting was elementary at best and it wound up being 4.1 miles. I jogged or walked most of it. I'm used to hunting at night in the same gear for hours on end, so I definitely didn't need a gear proving session. Just not for me.
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I'll also be signing up for a 5k run and gun this December. It's a 5k 2 gun competition and you have to tak everything you need with you. Not sure if it's with armor or just a chest rig yet, but I'll be good either way.



I did the one at Sawmill in SC a month or so ago. Hated it. The shooting was elementary at best and it wound up being 4.1 miles. I jogged or walked most of it. I'm used to hunting at night in the same gear for hours on end, so I definitely didn't need a gear proving session. Just not for me.
I've heard that's a good one, definitely not for everyone.
Being ready for that kind of thing keeps me motivated to stay in shape, moreso than PFT season.

I'm looking at jingle balls in Dec, and am doing another proving grounds in Aug and Sept in GA and SC. These aren't really run and guns, but do have a fitness aspect.

Shooting only comps aren't as interesting to me, the "whole picture" type comps are infinitely more interesting.

7/22/2026 9:57:50 AM EDT
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About 90 minutes.  Walking is the best I can manage..
7/22/2026 9:59:08 AM EDT
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7/22/2026 10:11:58 AM EDT
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It was almost all run and very little gun. They had that amazing complex and didn't utilize it very much. I left disappointed. My buddies built it up like it was some kind of insane special event, but a regular ass Cola Warrior is infinitely more challenging and enjoyable unless you just like running in your kit for fun.
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They're kind of all like that in that most of your time is spent running. The 'hard' part about the shooting is usually the long range since I've seen more than 50% timeout on those stages, largely because most don't practice the positions or their holds.  There's also no fast paper like USPSA or PCSL 2Gun.
7/22/2026 10:24:57 AM EDT
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They're kind of all like that in that most of your time is spent running. The 'hard' part about the shooting is usually the long range since I've seen more than 50% timeout on those stages, largely because most don't practice the positions or their holds.  There's also no fast paper like USPSA or PCSL 2Gun.
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The last one I did had a stage with a short sprint then shoot a 1/3 IPSC (6"x10"):
One shot at 100
Change position
One shot at 200
Change position
One shot at 300

Do this 3 times. Every shot you miss, you do a short sprint.
Once complete there was some pistol shooting that was not too bad.
3 min time cap.
Are those hard shots? Not from a bench, but from an odd position and even a slightly elevated heart rate that 6x10 target starts getting sorta small at 300 yards.
There was only a 20%-30% pass rate on that one, I took 4th out of 60 because I knew my holds and I think my fitness level helped because my heart rate was pretty well under control. I even had a pretty bad magazine malfunction at the start, and still did very well.

I found it to be a really good time. Running with my gear pretty regularly definitely helped.
7/22/2026 10:29:13 AM EDT
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The last one I did had a stage with a short sprint then shoot a 1/3 IPSC (6"x10"):
One shot at 100
Change position
One shot at 200
Change position
One shot at 300

Do this 3 times. Every shot you miss, you do a short sprint.
Once complete there was some pistol shooting that was not too bad.
3 min time cap.
Are those hard shots? Not from a bench, but from an odd position and even a slightly elevated heart rate that 6x10 target starts getting sorta small at 300 yards.
There was only a 20%-30% pass rate on that one, I took 4th out of 60 because I knew my holds and I think my fitness level helped because my heart rate was pretty well under control. I even had a pretty bad magazine malfunction at the start, and still did very well.

I found it to be a really good time. Running with my gear pretty regularly definitely helped.
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The COF at Brutality matches have a lot of this where you do some form of exercise and then shoot 1 target. Some like this form of shooting and some others want more variety of targets and props.  There's a lot of different matches so you can find whatever one fits your preferences.

Sorry for the thread drift!
7/22/2026 10:34:40 AM EDT
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After starting running and trying to lose weight at new years, I’ve got my 5k time down to about 33:30 which isn’t great and is a far cry from some of yall but it’s better than it was in January and also not bad considering the plaguing knee pain. And if my 7yo runs a 5k with me, we can finish in under 40min.
7/22/2026 10:36:29 AM EDT
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The COF at Brutality matches have a lot of this where you do some form of exercise and then shoot 1 target. Some like this form of shooting and some others want more variety of targets and props.  There's a lot of different matches so you can find whatever one fits your preferences.

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Is that the one affiliated with the Finnish surplus place? Verestruleka or something?

The Proving Grounds matches have mutliple steel targets and varying ranges so there's some variety. Definitely great that there's so many options.

I don't think it's too much of a drift- it's all fitness, marksmanship, and general preparedness right? I don't run because it's fun, I run because I hold myself to a certain standard, in or out of uniform and I think it's all related.
7/22/2026 10:47:51 AM EDT
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Is that the one affiliated with the Finnish surplus place? Verestruleka or something?

The Proving Grounds matches have mutliple steel targets and varying ranges so there's some variety. Definitely great that there's so many options.

I don't think it's too much of a drift- it's all fitness, marksmanship, and general preparedness right? I don't run because it's fun, I run because I hold myself to a certain standard, in or out of uniform and I think it's all related.
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The Brutality matches are run by those InRange guys on YouTube. I think that's their trademark so anytime you see anything with that name .. Cornfield Brutality, Finnish Brutality, etc.  it's sanctioned by them so they're getting some financial benefit from it.  Having shot the Cornfield one and the RNG, I think a lot of people just like those matches because they can wear their gear vs just concentrating on the shooting part (ie USPSA, PCSL, etc).
7/22/2026 10:49:58 AM EDT
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A little under 12 minutes, which I know is a bit longer than the rest of GD.
7/22/2026 10:51:47 AM EDT
[#26]
I have never ran 3 miles at one time
7/22/2026 10:53:49 AM EDT
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I'm an admitted fatty, but I go and walk at least 3 miles daily (trying to change the fatty part).  If its just me walking 3 miles probably 45 minutes  

If i'm trying to walk the dog at the same time, an hour.
7/22/2026 11:03:03 AM EDT
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The Brutality matches are run by those InRange guys on YouTube. I think that's their trademark so anytime you see anything with that name .. Cornfield Brutality, Finnish Brutality, etc.  it's sanctioned by them so they're getting some financial benefit from it.  Having shot the Cornfield one and the RNG, I think a lot of people just like those matches because they can wear their gear vs just concentrating on the shooting part (ie USPSA, PCSL, etc).
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Ah gotcha. Yeah I like the blend of fitness and we'll say "combat" marksmanship.
7/22/2026 12:04:30 PM EDT
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I've heard that's a good one, definitely not for everyone.
Being ready for that kind of thing keeps me motivated to stay in shape, moreso than PFT season.

I'm looking at jingle balls in Dec, and am doing another proving grounds in Aug and Sept in GA and SC. These aren't really run and guns, but do have a fitness aspect.

Shooting only comps aren't as interesting to me, the "whole picture" type comps are infinitely more interesting.

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I was told there would be obstacles, and there were no obstacles unless you goofed up. So sad.
7/22/2026 12:37:44 PM EDT
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I do a 5k twice a year. I'm in the 27-28 minute range on those.  I could probably hit 26 if I ran more during the year.  lol.
7/22/2026 12:56:10 PM EDT
[#31]
Just this morning. Not really a run more like a fast jog

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7/22/2026 12:57:51 PM EDT
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7/22/2026 1:02:27 PM EDT
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I’m 62.

Timed my 3 mile run this AM at 28:32.

I usually run 3 to 3.5 miles three to four miles a week.
7/22/2026 1:06:07 PM EDT
[#34]
Major hat tip to the fellas who made massive lifestyle changes and are striving to be better, also to the..."experienced" guys who are maintaing/improving.
7/22/2026 1:58:02 PM EDT
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I could probably do 3-miles in ~21 minutes under ideal conditions. I ran 8 miles this morning at a ~7:45/ mile pace. When I was in college I could do a half marathon at an average pace of ~6:35/ mile.
7/22/2026 2:24:31 PM EDT
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I did that for a while when I was younger. If I run more than once every 5 days I get horrible shin splints. I was about 185lbs at the time. At 230lbs now with the heaviest lifts I've ever done, it ain't happening.
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Running is great for cardiovascular health. Challenging yourself is great for mental health. You'll be amazed how much the pain goes away after running 2-3 days a week for two weeks. Give it a try. Run a mile, then next time run two miles, then run three miles and then beat your one mile time, your two mile time and three mile time. You will love it then stop all the complaining about running.


I did that for a while when I was younger. If I run more than once every 5 days I get horrible shin splints. I was about 185lbs at the time. At 230lbs now with the heaviest lifts I've ever done, it ain't happening.


Might not be the cure for everyone but I have been able to run 20 plus miles a week the past few years with $300 orthotics. A good chiropractor helps with basic stuff. I am nearing 50 so I know things break and not everything heals the way it should.
7/22/2026 2:25:27 PM EDT
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23-24 minutes, 58 yoa.

Three miles, 2-3 time a week.

489/550 last Army AFT.
7/22/2026 2:31:04 PM EDT
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When y'all are saying "3 miles" - do you mean 3.1 miles (as in a 5K) or do you literally mean 3.0 miles?

It's obviously not a significant difference, but I keep wondering about it as I'm reading this thread.  I always either run 3.1 or 6.2 miles.  
7/22/2026 2:41:20 PM EDT
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When y'all are saying "3 miles" - do you mean 3.1 miles (as in a 5K) or do you literally mean 3.0 miles?

It's obviously not a significant difference, but I keep wondering about it as I'm reading this thread.  I always either run 3.1 or 6.2 miles.  
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Actual miles for me, as I am not European and the Marine Corps never demanded a 5k of me.
7/22/2026 2:42:28 PM EDT
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When y'all are saying "3 miles" - do you mean 3.1 miles (as in a 5K) or do you literally mean 3.0 miles?

It's obviously not a significant difference, but I keep wondering about it as I'm reading this thread.  I always either run 3.1 or 6.2 miles.  
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Weird way to come out if the closet
7/22/2026 2:43:16 PM EDT
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I have never run 3 continuous miles, much less with any sort of timer involved.
7/22/2026 2:45:46 PM EDT
[#42]
Last 5k was 28:58.

ETA: This was in May. I'm 57.
7/22/2026 2:47:40 PM EDT
[#43]
Haven't run a mile since grade school.

Sprints? I'll do those all day, with or without LBE.
7/22/2026 2:53:28 PM EDT
[#44]
FPNI
7/22/2026 2:57:17 PM EDT
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I absolutely hate running with a passion.  It is awful.

I still run 4-5 times a week, because I want to stay fit and healthy - giving myself a better chance of surviving whatever the next stupid thing is that will try to kill me.
7/22/2026 3:01:11 PM EDT
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When y'all are saying "3 miles" - do you mean 3.1 miles (as in a 5K) or do you literally mean 3.0 miles?

It's obviously not a significant difference, but I keep wondering about it as I'm reading this thread.  I always either run 3.1 or 6.2 miles.  
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5K is the standardized race length so you will find more "runners" doing the 3.1 mile 5K and calling it a 3-mile.

If you use most running apps, it will be meters, half mile, mile, 2 mile, then 5/10k, etc..
7/22/2026 3:29:54 PM EDT
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47 Years old- ran 3.5 miles last night- 25:30 for 3 miles.

I don't like running, I only do it to train for run and guns.

7/22/2026 3:47:58 PM EDT
[#48]
Shoot 3 miles probably 1 hour minimum. lol

7/22/2026 3:52:45 PM EDT
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Average adult walking speed is 2.7-3.0mph. Zero running involved. Just use your "city" pace.
7/22/2026 3:56:30 PM EDT
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I would say 29 minutes...so molasses slow

More of a shuffle rather than a run.

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