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8/31/2022 6:22:06 PM EDT
[#1]
I wish Cuomo would give Hochul monkey pox
8/31/2022 6:22:42 PM EDT
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I know right!! They can finally prove they are right.
8/31/2022 6:23:11 PM EDT
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Sounds like they are abiding by the SCOTUS order. The citizens should also abide "in kind".
8/31/2022 6:23:30 PM EDT
[#4]
Fuck New York, it is sad the people let that turn into a communist state.  

New York is a solid case why states like them, NJ, CA, PA to name a few should have the electoral system with in the state.

The entire southern tier gets their shit pushed in every day from Albany.
8/31/2022 6:25:00 PM EDT
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“There was nothing I could have done to fix this situation,” she continued. “I guess the moral here is, f–k New York.

“I used to love it here, but it’s not the same.”

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I would LOVE to see her voting record.
8/31/2022 6:25:47 PM EDT
[#6]
I think California has some legislation that is similar or is getting voted on.
8/31/2022 6:26:28 PM EDT
[#7]


didn't know Carpenter wrote/filmed documentaries.
8/31/2022 6:31:05 PM EDT
[#8]
Jails going to fill up pretty quickly, I’m guessing!
8/31/2022 6:33:04 PM EDT
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NYSP will trip over each other to enforce this.

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None of this would be possible without men who are just doing their jobs.
8/31/2022 6:35:59 PM EDT
[#10]
Please donate to the organizations that file lawsuits against this type of bullshit.

I think Bruen was done by NY Rifle and Pistol Assn.  I'm sure they'd like to go another round with NY on this issue.
8/31/2022 6:38:22 PM EDT
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This

Laws only "exist" because cops chose to enforce them, without the cops they are just words on a paper

You're justified in being mad at the politicians, but you should be more mad at the fucking traitorous pigs that happily enforce it
8/31/2022 6:43:06 PM EDT
[#12]
And people from this very Forum still visit the crap hole.
8/31/2022 6:46:08 PM EDT
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Oh yea, anyone appearing to print. Oh boy its gonna be fun. "Don't move, put your hand on your head, what is that???"

Like I said before, how exactly will this be enforced during day to day if concealed is concealed?

Actually, this will probably make NYC safer. They'll probably install a bunch of gun readers and K9 dogs to sniff out legal guns owners, a byproduct will be finding those with illegal guns/without permits
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NYSP will trip over each other to enforce this.

They can fuck off.


Oh yea, anyone appearing to print. Oh boy its gonna be fun. "Don't move, put your hand on your head, what is that???"

Like I said before, how exactly will this be enforced during day to day if concealed is concealed?

Actually, this will probably make NYC safer. They'll probably install a bunch of gun readers and K9 dogs to sniff out legal guns owners, a byproduct will be finding those with illegal guns/without permits


Yeah but those assholes will be led through the revolving door while the legal gun owners will be bent over backwards.  
8/31/2022 6:46:29 PM EDT
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I do. I was there for a week visiting family last month.

Hey CT beat out NY last year on the Giffords Gun Grabber List. #3 after CA and NJ.
8/31/2022 6:46:53 PM EDT
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Please donate to the organizations that file lawsuits against this type of bullshit.

I think Bruen was done by NY Rifle and Pistol Assn.  I'm sure they'd like to go another round with NY on this issue.
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GOA already has one before a judge. The request for an injunction is pending and should be granted or denied before midnight.

Your point still stands, we need the lawsuit printer funded. Now is the time to go on offense. Help the FPC and GOA in particular.
8/31/2022 6:49:03 PM EDT
[#16]
Gun free zones! Because that has worked so well in the past. Fuck NY, that fucking 3rd world shithole.
8/31/2022 6:50:31 PM EDT
[#17]
And some of you "2A supporters" voluntarily live there...
8/31/2022 6:53:19 PM EDT
[#18]
Seeing as the recent SCOTUS cert specifically addressed this tactic, what is the next step, and how long until it gets tossed?

Does it have to go to SCOTUS again? What does the enforcement of the SCOTUS ruling look like?
8/31/2022 6:53:47 PM EDT
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pussies. if they had any guts the assholes in albany would draft articles of secession and leave us deplorables behind. fuckit, i'll help if they want to go that path.

8/31/2022 7:00:44 PM EDT
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Seeing as the recent SCOTUS cert specifically addressed this tactic, what is the next step, and how long until it gets tossed?

Does it have to go to SCOTUS again? What does the enforcement of the SCOTUS ruling look like?
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The illusion of this being a functional country is only maintained because the majority of the population is irredeemably retarded and only cares about sportsball and game of thrones

Theres no Law Enforcement agency that is going to see that the constitution/SCOTUS/etc is obeyed
Theres not a single fucking politician that will
The entire federal and state govt is blatantly corrupt and hostile towards the citizenry

SCOTUS can make a ruling tomorrow that says every state level gun control law in NY is illegal and must be ceased and NY wouldn't do fucking shit except keep on being tyrants

There's only 1 solution and it involves Minecraft

Go ahead and prove me wrong how theres some magical legislative route with 10 years of lawsuits where "we win" in the end. The country is polarized beyond repair, and the corruption and blatant treason is beyond the pale.

I have zero reason to believe this problem is going to be solved within the tidy confines of "The System"
8/31/2022 7:09:22 PM EDT
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Not everyone runs like a bitch
8/31/2022 7:12:28 PM EDT
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8/31/2022 7:13:05 PM EDT
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The Supreme Court will immediately send in the US Marshalls to enforce the Bruen decision, backed up by National Guard troops.  Public officials refusing to abide by the Bruen decision face fines and imprisonment.

Oh, wait....that's in a parallel universe.
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Yes, and it's been that way at least since Andrew Jackson refused to comply when the SCOTUS somewhat indirectly sided with the Cherokee nation. And ultimately their reward for the "win" was the Trail of Tears, and a new home in Oklahoma, for the ones who were still alive, anyway.

Conversely, Eisenhower got fed up, and sent the 101st Airborne into Little Rock, and Federalized the ARNG. When previously there under orders from Gov. Orval Faubus, they just sort of stood around watching, or actually helped block enactment of Brown v. Board of Education on a wink-wink nudge-nudge basis.

Granted, Eisenhower was more concerned over America looking like a laughingstock that could feed anti-American propaganda, the breakdown of Constituional law, and separation/balance of power issues, than he was Civil Rights, or those particular students. However, the net result was the same.

That is, Little Rock deciding to close the High School a year later out of spite, notwithstanding, I guess.

And of course, it's difficult to imagine a Republican White House willing to send in Federal LE, or the Army into NYS, Albany, and NYC over them flouting NYSRPA v. Bruen.

And even if we posit the most rabidly RKBA POTUS imaginable, and they appointed a like-minded RKBA & Constituional zealot to the top of every Fed agency, and the Senate miraculously confirmed them all... it's reasonable to assume all the unappointed lifers in the DOJ, the FBI, and/or US Marshalls etc. would  deliberately slow-roll any enforcement, if only out of FUD. And then there'll be those willing to perform actual willful resistance and sabotage.

Then the Army? What if the DoD refuses orders of the CiC? Total shit-show. That's a big step down into third world coup d'état/banana republic territory. And one that got added to the pile already building up from NY defying the SCOTUS in the first place.

And of course, even if the orders from the POTUS  were followed well, the riots, bricks, and Molotov cocktails against the "invasion" by Antifa, BLM, the pink pussy hats, you name it, would be epic. It could exceed what we've seen the past three years, the '68 Chicago DNC convention riot, and Rodney King/L.A. '92 combined.

Keep in kind that his would all happen with a backdrop where the Left and MSM is going absolutely bug-fuck insane. Take whatever level of crazy you think best represents peak TDS, and multiply that times ten.

Their sudden and newfound appreciation of "States Rights" will make the Confederacy look like amateurs.

Can the SCOTUS or lower Appeal and Circuit Fed courts levy fines or something?  Yes they can. And after the months and years of injunctions, appeals, and stays run out, NY will ultimately refuse to pay them. Pretty sure the DOJ actually has to do the actual paperwork and whatnot to deduct it from various NY bank accounts. So again, we've got the lifer bureaucrats dragging their feet, if not outright refusing to do it, or otherwise sabotaging the process.

Congress, the House specifically, could vote to deduct those fines from whatever Federal money NY gets, or to withhold all of it entirely as punishment. Of course that would imply that the GOP not only has a simple majority of 218+ seats that year, but that their majority is so big, that there's at least 218 of them with the big brass balls actually willing to do it, and it's critical the Speaker isn't a spineless RINO swamp creature too.

8/31/2022 7:13:15 PM EDT
[#24]
Lets see how those shooting instantly stop.
8/31/2022 7:23:02 PM EDT
[#25]
Injunction was denied
https://twitter.com/2Aupdates/status/1565118220662718465?s=20&t=JwX2qdO3g3M2n3M2HGQqog[tweet]https://twitter.com/2Aupdates/status/1565118220662718465?s=20&t=CHmABcPUl2lKsIETrIxHbQ[/tweet]


https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/63585683/antonyuk-v-bruen/
8/31/2022 7:28:18 PM EDT
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Seems like the people of NY are contempt with that too
8/31/2022 7:35:26 PM EDT
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Okay so what's their play?

->Openly defy
->Thugs in blue show up to preserve their dental plan
->They either get thrown in prison for years or they make an honorable exit and everyone on GD calls them "an evil cop killer who makes us gun owners look bad"

8/31/2022 7:37:46 PM EDT
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Seems like the people of NY are contempt with that too
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We are not “content” with it, though we do hold it in “contempt.”

Remember- NYSPRA v Bruen was fought in NY, paid for by NYers.
8/31/2022 7:39:56 PM EDT
[#29]
I don't care
8/31/2022 7:41:12 PM EDT
[#30]
As my shield, under LEOSA, is supposed to act as concealed weapons permit outside of the State of South Carolina, technically speaking I cannot carry in NYC's restricted zones.

Oh, well.
8/31/2022 7:46:04 PM EDT
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8/31/2022 7:46:23 PM EDT
[#32]
No one forces you to live in NY.



8/31/2022 7:47:33 PM EDT
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There is a second option. That NY, CA, and other states are slowly and begrudgingly brought to heel over the next few years as the secondary lawsuits wind their way through the Fed Circuit and Apoeals.

Getting D.C. v. Heller enforced on Chicago took another two years before Macdonald v. Chicago made them give in, as SCOTUS decided that Heller and 2A was indeed incorporated under the 14th, Due Process, and enforceable against states and municipalities.

Of course, that all was before '16 and the Left got sucker-punched and a big bloody nose the night of November 8th. All because they let their collective guard down. So much so, they were actually willing to run with Hillary... Presumably they thought everyone in red states had magically died, been raptured, or abducted by aliens... whatever, after eight years of Obama.

Now the Left is out for blood in retaliation over it. And they've always been more in line with an unquestioning "The ends justify the means."-mentality to begin with.

So yeah, if repeated losses in Fed Court don't eventually grind NY, CA, and those other states down. And because they capitulate as they only really oppose RKBA as a tit-for-tat in the culture war, and it's not really some life or death policy issue, I guess it's Minecraft.

(I also wonder who holds infanticide so dear that they may decide to play Minecraft too...)

Or, the thought of death, prison, lost jobs, their mortgage, and the inevitable "you first" conundrum prevents any kind of real momentum forming in these states. Dunno. We'll see.
8/31/2022 7:50:08 PM EDT
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Lol, fuck new york
What an understatement

Fucking yup, and I used to live there and have many fond memories.  They're embracing violence and they are pretending they don't know it.
8/31/2022 7:50:42 PM EDT
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Jails going to fill up pretty quickly, I’m guessing!
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Maybe not.

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8/31/2022 7:51:19 PM EDT
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And people from this very Forum still visit the crap hole.
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Some of us have family there. And I'll do what I please, including defending myself in any locale
8/31/2022 7:53:58 PM EDT
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and most folks cant see that this is no different than a country as a whole.
Why I never bitch at Ny'arkers, I have done nothing but bitch and vote, more than they have.

8/31/2022 7:57:40 PM EDT
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Part of the new gun control laws in NY makes everywhere a no gun zone in retaliation for the SC declaring NY's pistol permit law unconstitutional.

Syracuse area DA says they might just revoke your pistol permit and not proceed with felony charges just to teach you who's boss, you little bitches who think the Constitution applies in NY.
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Isn’t that completely the opposite of what the USSC ruled on?
8/31/2022 7:59:35 PM EDT
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Can SCOTUS hold the Governor in contempt of court? They're obviously going against the ruling.
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Part of the new gun control laws in NY makes everywhere a no gun zone in retaliation for the SC declaring NY's pistol permit law unconstitutional.

Syracuse area DA says they might just revoke your pistol permit and not proceed with felony charges just to teach you who's boss, you little bitches who think the Constitution applies in NY.
Can SCOTUS hold the Governor in contempt of court? They're obviously going against the ruling.

I'd like to see a charge of deprivation of rights under the color of authority instead - never happen, but hey, I thought Roe v. Wade wouldn't get overturned either.
8/31/2022 8:00:36 PM EDT
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Okay so what's their play?

->Openly defy
->Thugs in blue show up to preserve their dental plan
->They either get thrown in prison for years or they make an honorable exit and everyone on GD calls them "an evil cop killer who makes us gun owners look bad"

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Seems like the people of NY are contempt with that too


Okay so what's their play?

->Openly defy
->Thugs in blue show up to preserve their dental plan
->They either get thrown in prison for years or they make an honorable exit and everyone on GD calls them "an evil cop killer who makes us gun owners look bad"


The only people who can violate NY gun laws are the cops.
8/31/2022 8:02:09 PM EDT
[#41]
Everyone is going to feel so safe and cozy.
8/31/2022 8:04:26 PM EDT
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Okay so what's their play?

->Openly defy
->Thugs in blue show up to preserve their dental plan
->They either get thrown in prison for years or they make an honorable exit and everyone on GD calls them "an evil cop killer who makes us gun owners look bad"

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Seems like the people of NY are contempt with that too


Okay so what's their play?

->Openly defy
->Thugs in blue show up to preserve their dental plan
->They either get thrown in prison for years or they make an honorable exit and everyone on GD calls them "an evil cop killer who makes us gun owners look bad"



Their play will just to roll with the flow. Only thing that makes sense.
It also makes us with strong convictions seem like a minority.

I am thankful we have laws, I am also glad that a mass majority of Americans have the same view.
While we will all not 100% agree with every law, we can see the reason to compromise.

In being raised to obey the law, and dont be a drain on society, It made me very much appreciate our Constitution.
I will NOT bend on these LAWS being broken by myself, I also expect the same from any .gov body.

There are things I do not agree with in COTUS/ BOR, but I will happily abide.

I am pretty sure this is called integrity and I am glad I have it.
I will die knowing I have made the very best decisions to be remembered as a stand up guy.

We are in the minority.
8/31/2022 8:08:20 PM EDT
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The illusion of this being a functional country is only maintained because the majority of the population is irredeemably retarded and only cares about sportsball and game of thrones

Theres no Law Enforcement agency that is going to see that the constitution/SCOTUS/etc is obeyed
Theres not a single fucking politician that will
The entire federal and state govt is blatantly corrupt and hostile towards the citizenry

SCOTUS can make a ruling tomorrow that says every state level gun control law in NY is illegal and must be ceased and NY wouldn't do fucking shit except keep on being tyrants

There's only 1 solution and it involves Minecraft

Go ahead and prove me wrong how theres some magical legislative route with 10 years of lawsuits where "we win" in the end. The country is polarized beyond repair, and the corruption and blatant treason is beyond the pale.

I have zero reason to believe this problem is going to be solved within the tidy confines of "The System"
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Maybe I go armed to Times Square just to become a test case and multimillionaire at the same time.
8/31/2022 8:14:32 PM EDT
[#44]
@Aimless

Is there any way to fix New York?


I drove the backroads through upstate on my way to Canada via Buffalo.

Seemed very rural and not what I expected.

Is there no way to fight the NYC juggernaut?

8/31/2022 8:30:14 PM EDT
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So serious question from the other side of the country: How common are firearms in the hands of the criminal element? How likely is it for the average joe to fetch up against a thug with a firearm/
8/31/2022 8:44:45 PM EDT
[#46]
I wish we could just get it over with and settle this before I get to old.

It's getting late. And my patience is long since expired.
8/31/2022 9:15:15 PM EDT
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Any time someone sees one with a gun, they should yell, "GUN! GUN!". If you see something, say something.
8/31/2022 9:19:52 PM EDT
[#48]
Hmmm

How about having. Let’s say.

A lobby day

In NY

Soon

8/31/2022 9:26:21 PM EDT
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As my shield, under LEOSA, is supposed to act as concealed weapons permit outside of the State of South Carolina, technically speaking I cannot carry in NYC's restricted zones.

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Ok...I haven't heard anyone say "shield" irt to a badge in over 15 years.

Do people still say that?


8/31/2022 9:46:31 PM EDT
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Carry anyway

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