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Quoted: I guess it's all final then? The Republic is certainly over. Simply accept that, and move on to what's next. We will be another shithole, with a vast, ignorant lower class squatting in the ruins of a once prosperous civilization. Dominated by a small elite controlling the levers of power. I've stopped concerning myself about the past. I'm working to ensure that MY grandkids are running the shit show to come. |
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Quoted: Nonsense, GD assures me that all you need to do is pull yourself up by the bootstraps with a firm handshake and work harder. It works, most people are too lazy to do it. You have to work hard and have a good plan, not toil aimlessly. Some people get ahead in terrible places all over the world. The problem is most people follow the herd and the grazing for the middle class is getting thinner. These are 2 separate issues. |
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Quoted: I assume you would do away with federal taxes as well? Quoted: Quoted: I currently rent, and I 100% support the idea that only landowners, who reside on the land that they own*, should be permitted to vote. I assume you would do away with federal taxes as well? Why would you make such assumption? I do like the idea of replacing the income tax with a national sales tax. |
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Quoted: I keep hearing this. But, in the 1940's, a country of only 120 million, mostly white, people: -Rose from the Great Depression. -Mobilized to engage in a world conflict. -Supplied the sinews of war not only to its own military, but its allies. -Defeated two monstrous tyrannies. -Contained Soviet expansion. -Rebuilt Europe. -Initiated the greatest period of prosperity and innovation the West has seen, culminating with two white, American men walking on the Moon. But now, for some reason, we cannot survive if we don't import millions of uneducated, unskilled, worthless third world peasants every year. I have two daughters. They, and their husbands, waited to have children until they were able to provide for them. They will have no more children than they can provide and care for. That is a good thing. If we weren’t importing unskilled welfare folk from around the world this would be correct. Now I am not so sure. Seems like we are in the opening scenes of Idiocracy. |
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Quoted: The Republic is certainly over. Simply accept that, and move on to what's next. We will be another shithole, with a vast, ignorant lower class squatting in the ruins of a once prosperous civilization. Dominated by a small elite controlling the levers of power. I've stopped concerning myself about the past. I'm working to ensure that MY grandkids are running the shit show to come. No offense man but you’re in denial if you think that’s how this plays out. Unless you’re already in the club, you’re not getting in the club. Unless you’re ok with your grandkids being low level functionaries bowing and scraping for table scraps. |
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Quoted: If we weren’t importing unskilled welfare folk from around the world this would be correct. Now I am not so sure. Seems like we are in the opening scenes of Idiocracy. Our government could be paying healthy young high IQ Americans to have kids instead of importing poor foreigners and paying them instead. This is not innocent error, this is malicious asymmetric warfare against the people who created America for the purposes of replacing them. |
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Quoted: The Republic is certainly over. Simply accept that, and move on to what's next. We will be another shithole, with a vast, ignorant lower class squatting in the ruins of a once prosperous civilization. Dominated by a small elite controlling the levers of power. I've stopped concerning myself about the past. I'm working to ensure that MY grandkids are running the shit show to come. Quoted: Quoted: I guess it's all final then? The Republic is certainly over. Simply accept that, and move on to what's next. We will be another shithole, with a vast, ignorant lower class squatting in the ruins of a once prosperous civilization. Dominated by a small elite controlling the levers of power. I've stopped concerning myself about the past. I'm working to ensure that MY grandkids are running the shit show to come. The future is outside of Earth's gravity well. |
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Quoted: No offense man but you’re in denial if you think that’s how this plays out. Unless you’re already in the club, you’re not getting in the club. Unless you’re ok with your grandkids being low level functionaries bowing and scraping for table scraps. This is typical modern American loser talk that instead of focusing on just how high of a standard of living the average lazy stonebag actually lives bemoans the fact that they don't have an Instagram perfect life and blames it all on a bunch of bullshit. It's why all the entitled fucks are out there screaming about injustice and the difficulties of modern life when the fact is the worst thing most have had to face is the realization that paying back student loans was actually expected. Bowing for table scraps,give me a goddamn break. |
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Quoted: The Republic is certainly over. Simply accept that, and move on to what's next. We will be another shithole, with a vast, ignorant lower class squatting in the ruins of a once prosperous civilization. Dominated by a small elite controlling the levers of power. I've stopped concerning myself about the past. I'm working to ensure that MY grandkids are running the shit show to come. Quoted: It works, most people are too lazy to do it. You have to work hard and have a good plan, not toil aimlessly. Some people get ahead in terrible places all over the world. The problem is most people follow the herd and the grazing for the middle class is getting thinner. These are 2 separate issues. Two back-to-back smart posts there. I don't think the prediction in the first is a foregone conclusion, but the action plan is spot on. |
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Quoted: This is typical modern American loser talk that instead of focusing on just how high of a standard of living the average lazy stonebag actually lives bemoans the fact that they don't have an Instagram perfect life and blames it all on a bunch of bullshit. It's why all the entitled fucks are out there screaming about injustice and the difficulties of modern life when the fact is the worst thing most have had to face is the realization that paying back student loans was actually expected. Bowing for table scraps,give me a goddamn break. Damn. Three smart posts on one page. |
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Quoted: Excess. If you subsidize something, you will get more of it. Excess female promiscuity as the result of artificial birth control and abortions....there are volumes of lessons to unpack in that one. Quoted: Excess. If you subsidize something, you will get more of it. Excess female promiscuity as the result of artificial birth control and abortions....there are volumes of lessons to unpack in that one. Quoted: Excess. Too many of a thing in too close of a proximity invites disharmony. Quoted: Excess. They have too much of everything, including spare time. That's the devil's workshop or some such shit. Quoted: Excess. Debt is incurred out of attempting to physically acquire that which is beyond your means out of a false desire, to wit more for the sake of more. You have an excess of excesses. Therefore, you are the problem. |
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Nope, all those things are symptoms. The real root of the problem is sound money--specifically the lack of it. WTF Happened In 1971? |
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Quoted: Why would you make such assumption? I do like the idea of replacing the income tax with a national sales tax. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I currently rent, and I 100% support the idea that only landowners, who reside on the land that they own*, should be permitted to vote. I assume you would do away with federal taxes as well? Why would you make such assumption? I do like the idea of replacing the income tax with a national sales tax. You plan on taxing people, but not allowing them to vote? That'll go over well. |
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Another symptom of the "underlying dynamic". America was founded as a Christian nation...it is wholly unsuitable for any other kind of people. The God of Abraham,Isaac,Jacob and His Son Jesus Christ are the true founders of America. Deny Him,Defy Him,Turn your back on Him and His underlying principals...and the dynamics of that choice is the only real problem America faces. The old testament is filled with examples of what happens to any nation that follows God and then rejects Him. imo |
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Quoted: This is typical modern American loser talk that instead of focusing on just how high of a standard of living the average lazy stonebag actually lives bemoans the fact that they don't have an Instagram perfect life and blames it all on a bunch of bullshit. It's why all the entitled fucks are out there screaming about injustice and the difficulties of modern life when the fact is the worst thing most have had to face is the realization that paying back student loans was actually expected. Bowing for table scraps,give me a goddamn break. Lol, in a no shit communist country you either suck the elites dick or you starve. Your normalcy bias tells you it can’t happen, but you’re wrong. |
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Quoted: Damn. Three smart posts on one page. Quoted: Quoted: This is typical modern American loser talk that instead of focusing on just how high of a standard of living the average lazy stonebag actually lives bemoans the fact that they don't have an Instagram perfect life and blames it all on a bunch of bullshit. It's why all the entitled fucks are out there screaming about injustice and the difficulties of modern life when the fact is the worst thing most have had to face is the realization that paying back student loans was actually expected. Bowing for table scraps,give me a goddamn break. Damn. Three smart posts on one page. How’s that bootstrap bullshit working out for people in China who run afoul of the party? How did it work out for the people in the USSR? “Can’t happen hereism“ is a delusion, it can unless it’s stopped. BTW, the book by the same name was written by a Communist, warning about the “dangers” of “fascism”. How’s that for irony? |
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Quoted: How’s that bootstrap bullshit working out for people in China who run afoul of the party? How did it work out for the people in the USSR? “Can’t happen hereism“ is a delusion, it can unless it’s stopped. BTW, the book by the same name was written by a Communist, warning about the “dangers” of “fascism”. How’s that for irony? You are mixing issues. I personally know people that have gotten ahead in China and Russia that are not party members or part of the elite. They were not born to it. They work their asses off and don’t get involved in politics. They don’t have the same rights we do but they actually keep more of the fruits of their labor than we do. I would not trade places with them but they certainly are not begging for scraps. I don’t like what is coming but I am not giving up to defeatist talk either. I certainly would not live in a city and plan on moving further out if need be. |
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Quoted: No, it's actually postmodernism. Actually it's communism, which is propagating the post modernist garbage and attacking our society by probing at minorities trying to start a race war to divide and weaken the country in a multifaceted attack on western culture. |
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Quoted: “Eat the bugs peasant, this is the new normal, same as the old normal”. Trying to sell the depredations of the political class as normal and a decent standard of living as the outlier takes a lot of chutzpah. Quoted: Quoted: This thread is another example of people thinking the U.S. has spent 243 years being the way it was between 1948 and 1965. The post WW2 golden age is the anomaly, not the other way around. Life entails trouble. Americans have been well-insulted from it, but we've never been immune to it, and we're not supposed to be. “Eat the bugs peasant, this is the new normal, same as the old normal”. Trying to sell the depredations of the political class as normal and a decent standard of living as the outlier takes a lot of chutzpah. But he’s right. 1946-1974 was a time of truly exceptional circumstances for American social function and prosperity the likes of which may never occur anywhere else again. You had a lot of very mature systems of management and governance humming along on top of a technological boom economy whose previous competitors had been reduced to captive customers. It does seem like it was deliberately put to an end (Nixon going to China, civil rights, the long march through the institutions) by artificial decrees from the top. But there was no real defense against these things, and very little pushback. I think that understanding the current economic and social malaise as “normal” (and not even new) could help us learn to adapt to it and fight it better than making it a goal to return to the 1950s. |
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Quoted: You are mixing issues. I personally know people that have gotten ahead in China and Russia that are not party members or part of the elite. They were not born to it. They work their asses off and don’t get involved in politics. They don’t have the same rights we do but they actually keep more of the fruits of their labor than we do. I would not trade places with them but they certainly are not begging for scraps. I don’t like what is coming but I am not giving up to defeatist talk either. I certainly would not live in a city and plan on moving further out if need be. No I don’t think I am. If you have to play their game so that your social credit score doesn’t make it impossible to travel and earn a living, or land you in a gulag, you are a slave with extra steps. You are apparently planning to run for the hills, but I’m the defeatist? That seems backwards to me. I’m not some old dude who can plan to run out the clock. I have another half century to watch my nation decline if the commies don’t get me first. |
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Quoted: But he’s right. 1946-1974 was a time of truly exceptional circumstances for American social function and prosperity the likes of which may never occur anywhere else again. You had a lot of very mature systems of management and governance humming along on top of a technological boom economy whose previous competitors had been reduced to captive customers. It does seem like it was deliberately put to an end (Nixon going to China, civil rights, the long march through the institutions) by artificial decrees from the top. But there was no real defense against these things, and very little pushback. I think that understanding the current economic and social malaise as “normal” (and not even new) could help us learn to adapt to it and fight it better than making it a goal to return to the 1950s. It's a matter of framing. The new favela-merica is here to stay - but there's no point (unless you're in the medicare generation and hope to postpone backlash till after your death) pretending it was destiny. The boomers lucked into a soft summer-world of economic headstarts and social cohesion - but willfully pissed it away instead of conserving a seedbank. |
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The natural tendency of power is to consolidate, the middle class is an aberration to that. Any voting block with enough disposable income to manifest political destinies needs to be destroyed in order for power to accrue. For the neofeudalists to succeed the middle class must die. Heinlein was right about the world beng politically divided into two basic camps. |
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Quoted: It's a matter of framing. The new favela-merica is here to stay - but there's no point (unless you're in the medicare generation and hope to postpone backlash till after your death) pretending it was destiny. The boomers lucked into a soft summer-world of economic headstarts and social cohesion - but willfully pissed it away instead of conserving a seedbank. Lol, another zero sum argument... there’s wealth floating all over the place, don’t blame your inability to capture it on some generational warfare boogey man bullshit. My father used to tell me that my fortunes hinged in politely convincing others to part with their money for a good or service. Stop relying on the state to pave the road to the cliff for you... |
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Quoted: Lol, another zero sum argument... there’s wealth floating all over the place, don’t blame your inability to capture it on some generational warfare boogey man bullshit. My father used to tell me that my fortunes hinged in politely convincing others to part with their money for a good or service. Stop relying on the state to pave the road to the cliff for you... It's 2020 now dude. The prosperity and opportunity of the 20th century you were lucky enough to grow up with are long gone. The rest of us who are now gonna have to live with the future are fucked whlie you get to enjoy a nice comfortable retirement. |
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Quoted: Lol, another zero sum argument... there’s wealth floating all over the place, don’t blame your inability to capture it on some generational warfare boogey man bullshit. My father used to tell me that my fortunes hinged in politely convincing others to part with their money for a good or service. Stop relying on the state to pave the road to the cliff for you... I make over 100k, so you're going to need a new ad hom when denying half-century long economic trends. 
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Quoted: Lol, another zero sum argument... there's wealth floating all over the place, don't blame your inability to capture it on some generational warfare boogey man bullshit. My father used to tell me that my fortunes hinged in politely convincing others to part with their money for a good or service. Stop relying on the state to pave the road to the cliff for you... Dad used to say "averages are for average people". Decide what you want. Take it. When the Rule of Law is gone, it just gets easier. |
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Quoted: You really think the rioting women are the kind of people who should raise children? It is a chicken or the egg thing. A saeculum ago women aspired to motherhood. Now women aspire to cheap whoredom by whatever prevailing monicker you want to refer to it as. The entire social system has been modified to incentivize that outcome versus the former. Dick with no baby is a gateway drug. The lez is another thing and gender fluidity a whole different level. |
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Quoted: Lol, another zero sum argument... there’s wealth floating all over the place, don’t blame your inability to capture it on some generational warfare boogey man bullshit. My father used to tell me that my fortunes hinged in politely convincing others to part with their money for a good or service. Stop relying on the state to pave the road to the cliff for you... Dude we might as well rename our country to "the United States of Amazon" soon. There's no room for the little guy anymore except in really niche specialized areas. Everything else is taken over by the mega corps. The reason for the decline of America is that our middle class has been gutted, and with it the stability and opportunity that we've enjoyed. It was already getting bad, and then COVID came and blew everything to pieces. Covid has FURTHER decimated brick and mortar retail/restaurants/small businesses and strengthened the large corporations who have less competition to deal with. |
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Quoted: No I don’t think I am. If you have to play their game so that your social credit score doesn’t make it impossible to travel and earn a living, or land you in a gulag, you are a slave with extra steps. You are apparently planning to run for the hills, but I’m the defeatist? That seems backwards to me. I’m not some old dude who can plan to run out the clock. I have another half century to watch my nation decline if the commies don’t get me first. I am not sure you understand that we have always had to play by the rules of the game. And the game has always been evolving. There have always been no go zones that aren’t safe. Don’t live in them. Avoid them as much as possible. It has always been this way throughout history and will always be that way. Our constitution is dead. We are living on the scraps and have been for longer than anyone alive has been around. Do your best, fight the good fight and keep going. |
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Even poor people are rich by historical standards. Plenty to eat, they can reach into their pocket and pull out a device that has most of mans knowledge available at the touch of a button, flat screen TVs, computers, cars, a roof over their heads that does not leak, walls that the wind does not blow through, clothes to wear. People are only poor by relative standards. By absolute standards they are not. |
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Quoted: There are few simple ones. Non homogenous society. Some segments of our society don't share the ideals and culture that make a successful powerful nation. They perpetuate criminal, leechlike behavior that rots society. They are allowed to do this because: #2 Universal suffrage. If someone with no stake gets a say, the system will crumble. You can see it happening right now. All the rest of the ills listed in this thread will pretty much stem from those two. Agreed. “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.” There is a reason the founders only let male land owners vote. I’m amend that to just make it federal tax payers. |
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Quoted: It's almost like shuttering American industry for outsourcing was a terrible idea... and illegally importing the 3rd world instead of paying fair wages to American workers was the turd on top. This, x 10^99th. I've been saying this for 3 decades. We are finally seeing the results. |
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Cuckservatives. You know, the ones that go around with that whole... Muh jobz Muh familyz routine. Convincing themselves commies don't have jobs or families. But wait a minute... Who's indoctrinating I mean teaching their children? I thought commies didn't have jobs boys... what happened there? Who's climbed the corporate ladder and takes great pride in shit canning you for posts you made online? What happened there boys? I thought commies didn't have jobs... Who's showing up with their spouse and kids to protests? (not the recent riots) I thought commies didn't have families? What, are those kids from epstiens island as props? The "I have too much to lose so instead of getting off my fat ass and going to town/city hall to do work and battle with micromanaging power hungry mental midgets busy bodies, I'd rather sit in the lazy boy get fat and regurgitate whatever Hannity says." The ones fine with losing shit incrementally rather than doing work themselves because Muh elected representative is a shit heel! It's their job not mine, fuck that that's too much like work! When the rubber is supposed to meet the road of personal/individual responsibility? Oh fuck that, that's someone else's job... Too much like work. Muh property valuez! This one especially is  level of hypocrisy.Here's how that one works retard. Tax man arbitrarily says your property is worth xxx,xxx you'll be taxed accordingly. I thought we were for less intrusive smaller in size and scope? Against socialist ideals of welfare programs and union/pension state lackeys? How the fuck you gonna achieve that... when... You've done fuck all to improve the value of your property... just to give the tax man more of your hard earned money? To go towards welfare, section 8, HEAP, WIC, (in NYs case) bounties for turning in safe act violators? I could see an addition to the house. A pool. Detached 40x70 shop with or without lifts... I would think if we were what we claim we were about... hayfield for front yard along with camaros on blocks for lawn ornaments to cap and prevent property values skyrocketing so shit heels can spend on good feelz initiatives like Drunken sailors in a brothel? We have to live work play on a budget? .gov doesn't?  If we as a nation did shit the right way, it'd be the dumps, trailer parks, ghettos, that got whacked with high property taxes for being unsightly shit holes as punishment. Not the other way around... Cuckservatism. HOAs. Suburbia. Cities. That's what I blame. Cuckservatives will gladly move along to get along incrementally. I don't compromise. Rights aren't subjective privileges... Only a fool is willing to pay the tax man more in property taxes to fund their demise. Never mind siding with the left in, those jobs aren't coming back, beneath you, and Americans won't do them... Very principled. Much conservative.  |
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Actually, Ayn Rand will explain it to you. You guys are nitpicking. She has the big picture answer. https://youtu.be/1ooKsv_SX4Y  Ayn Rand First Interview 1959 (Full) |
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Quoted: End welfare, end child support laws, and outlaw abortion. Make schools to teach civics, and personal responsibility and accountability, and teach young girls what happens when they have sex. Schools have been doing that for at least the past 20 years... It was this retard backwards ass parenting that became mainstream where it's not only acceptable to see kids having kids, but for the grandparents to raise their kids mistake. Or ride the schools special needs suburban to planned parenthood for an abortion. Afterall. It just wouldn't be fair to her if she didn't go to college and have a life...God forbid... And it's not just girls either. I have no respect for shit bags that bail on chicks after knocking them up. That's your kid too shit bag. You got her knocked up on a pull out couch? You're not doing the right thing and putting a ring on her finger and being in that kids life, together? Just gonna cut tail and say fuck that noise? One thing if she did it to entrap the dude. Totally different if it happened unintentionally. No reason he can't wrap it, she can't be on a form of birth control to prevent unintended outcome of breeding what they cant afford to feed. There was only 1 teenage pregnancy during the 4 years I was in highschool, and that was by a couple that were together since they were both 12 years old. They're married and successful. But you venture out of the sticks to shit hole cities and out into the burbs? That shit is as common as kids having seasonal colds for fucks sakes. Why? Parents went soft. To remove adversity. Fuck teaching kids responsibility accountability. That's the schools job... Shit I remember when they ruled corporal punishment as child abuse No. Big bold line between abuse and discipline. Tell junior mow the lawn, earn your keep. He tells you to go fuck yourself? Better believe he's getting popped in the mouth. Better also believe that will be the first and last time he does that shit too. This limp wristed bullshit of revoking privileges and "you're grounded" Only prepares them for prison where the same with a healthy dose of household chores exists. Congratulations you feelz compelled limp wristed fucks. You played yourselves. Personal responsibility and accountability took the backseat to convenience... that's too much like work. That's someone else's job. Night and day difference between rural America suburbia and shit hole cities. Want personal accountability and responsibility? You get that out in the sticks where you have a well you are responsible for. A septic system you are responsible for. Not a public utilities department with a 24 hour phone line to dispatch a repair for city sewer/water. Nor a building superintendent to call when adverse conditions arise. You go out to the sticks where cops don't come for 15+ minutes after 911 has been dialed? The thought of defunded police isn't a threat to rural America I don't give a rats ass what state it is. May as well not even have police force out there by the time the cops show up a burglar, vandal, or home invader will either be shot dead, hog tied, the hard work will be done for the cops. To cityiots and suburbanites the thought of no police scares them shitless. They actually will have to use the Gucci suppressed SBR to defend their property/themselves/their family? Well shit. I pay taxes to have that job done by law enforcement! |
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Quoted: But would you trust most of those women with rearing children now?  Not to worry! Mommy and daddy will raise the kid for her. Can't go stripping her of having a life don't ya know... I'd be interested in finding out how many of those women rioting actually did have kids, and dumped the kid(s) with her parents... or baby daddy/or his parents... |
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Quoted: Both sides of the political spectrum are responsible for originating the core problems mentioned above by @556A2 so both “sides” mostly play into the Divide and Rule game. @N2CH_556 This is the most infuriating part I saw as a kid in tobacco country. The rich conservative farmer bitching about how Mexican migrants swarming the town on a Sunday afternoon, while he is the one hiring them at $5 a day to work the fields. The liberals would be pushing for all the social programs because they are so low paid and how terrible the living conditions are for migrants while driving past families still living in old sharecropper housing with tin roofs on their social awareness meetings. Meanwhile, the literally diverse native blue collar workers in the county were getting the shaft the worst. The conservatives took away the job market to pay slave wages, the liberals gave away resources to foreign nationals after lining their pockets, and they both fucked the American worker. People have no qualms fucking their society for 30 pieces of silver. |
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There ought to be a law is another American ill. Can't live and let live... nope. Find offense in anything and reach out to the nanny state (our supposed arch nemesis) begging to protect us from ourselves. Damn kids and their noise. God fucking forbid we can't hear what Hannity supreme leader of cuckservatives has to say from our shoddy built poorly insulated mcmansions as the damn kids and their loud stereos/exhaust goes flying by for a few brief seconds... Then wonder why they cant shoot in their backyards any more... You wanted the noise ordinance fuck stick. You got it. What, you thought it was rules for thee not for me?  You think they put a clause in there targeting specifically loud exhausts and car stereos that rattle house windows? You succumbed to feelz. Showed your ass. And now that's not fair? Should have thought about it first hand dumbass. 5 minutes 5 hours 5 days 5 weeks 5 months 5 years 5 decades from now. Nope. Feelz > logical thinking. Reeee I've been inconvenienced and offended for a whole 5 minutes at most! There ought to be a law! Way to do the grabbers and liberals job for them, moron. Urbanization. Busy bodies. Not being happy with what you have, having to compete with others God forbid you don't have something as nice or better. So go be poors and pay the bank interest for shit you can't budget for and buy cash/check, because that's fucking Smart. Want to stop it? Stop cunting. Stop relying on cuckservative sell outs that you reward every election cycle. Get off your fat lazy complacent asses. Stop hiding behind Muh Jobz and familyz. You've lost your job and family and don't even know it. Let one of those antifa fucks dox you send shit you posted online to your companies HR office in an email freaking out that they'd employ someone like you. You'll be shit canned within minutes. Fuck a peepee slap. Shit canned. Followed by an appology. Your kids? Anyone here good in history for the 40s in Soviet Union and Nazi Germany? Kids treated as property of the state, undercover agents of the state. Coincidence junior talks about guns/hunting/shooting at school, school spies on his social media and you're served with a redflag... Get into town/city hall, state capital, do work. Don't just talk about it. Be about it. Be the change you seek. We acknowledge we have inept elected (supposed) representatives yes? Are you a lemming? Do you need that "leader" who consistent as death and taxes sells you out in rights and makes you pay for it in taxes? Then why the fuck are you not yeeting them in the primary and doubling down on cuckservative complacency and rewarding them via Muh straight R ticket in the general? If you believe you've too much to risk losing to get out and do work? I promise you don't have shit to lose. Maybe when you're declared a felon worse than that of a child molester by the state for exercising a Constitutionally protected civil liberty will you know what it's like to have too much to lose. And don't kid yourselves like good complacent cuckservatives and insist that shit will never happen here... Buddy. That shit did happen there. You'd be more naive to believe it won't happen in your free state, than the prom queen being told I won't cum in your mouth after the dance. Take too much shit for granted and write off potential threats to what you take for granted daily... to excuse complacency and that's someone else's job. Pay attention to what the leftist shit heels are doing. Notice a recurring trend with them? They don't engage in in house purse swinging. They go lock step on 1 issue. And don't stray. They win. We lose. Why the fuck is compromising even an option?  Want to stop the fuckery? Stop being complacent and take the initiative where elected shit heels failed. Use your words. Won't even need to fire a shot out of anger. Take @Miami_JBT for example. One guy that does work for the 2nd. Where were the rest of the FloridaBros for the rally in tally? Stocking up for the impending bans coming. Priorities. Ours are fucked. Better to sit out showing up in droves, to aquire last minute mags over priced M&P sports at gun shows than it is to have driven to the participating ranges and hop on the bus and show up... Stop worrying about being labeled their flavor of phobosisticismist of the week/month. They claim the intellectual superiority card afterall. Make them prove you are whatever they claim you are. I did and still do. Most you'll get out of them is crickets. Maybe loud incoherent SJW noises. Big fucking deal. Remind them you've been called worse by better and watch their feeble minds explode. And laugh the entire time they freak out. It fucks with them when they cant get you to relinquish your power to them. And if they attack or put hands on you? Big deal. Don't be above stooping to their level. That old podunk saying. Don't wrestle with pigs, you'll only get filthy and the pig will enjoy it? Not true. Get your ass in the pig pen, chase that fucker, get it winded/weak, force it to make a mistake and tackle that fucker and hog tie it. Reduce it to a squealing wailing helpless being. So what if you get muddy. It washes off. Everyone wants freedom until it's time to do freedom things. Then its hide behind Muh jobz Muh familyz. better yet.  But Muh picture will be taken and I'll be on a list! So you'd rather voluntarily walk onto that cattle car than go out taking as many of the fuckers with you as possible? Maybe sell your own flesh and blood out as enemies of the state? Don't do that. The shit always starts locally. Goes to county and state then ultimately federal level. You want to reverse what's been done... What's stopping you from getting your ass in town hall/city hall and using your words? What's stopping you from attending a rally in your state's capital? What's stopping you from putting the word out an actual conservative is running against the twice previously re-elected limp wristed cuckservative? And getting them votes in the primary, that way you aren't forced to Muh lesser of two evilz! Why is it always coming down to that's too much like fucking work, not my job, or cowering behind your job and family? Guess ya'll need to experience losing freedom just once. Ask @Aimless and @Downtrodden @Extorris what happened in NY. Don't take my word for it. Great many upstate rural conservatives said that shit would never happen here, while selling acreage to the liberal cityiot shit bags. Who by the way, attended town hall every Tuesday night. These fuckers drove 4-6 hours north to make the town more like back home. And where were the local conservatives? Who hated these liberal cityiots who eventually became their overlords? Complacently hiding behind naivety. Hiding behind Muh Jobz and familyz because telling the wife dinner will have to wait, or bring the kids and we can grab something afterwards is blasphemous I guess, and not even up for consideration. Stupid fucks. Reee they win we lose! But won't do anything about it. Guess that's what separates the hobbyist from the absolutist in regards to the 2nd at least. Can't attend a rally because. Work? Here's an idea. Plan it for a weekend. Or. If not possible? You tell your employer lose me for a day to protest me being labeled a felon worse than that of a child molester, or lose me to 2 consecutive life sentences for owning what once was legal and currently is everywhere else. if they value you making them money, because you're productive and proficient? Not an issue. Same with the wife/girlfriend/fiance. If they value you providing them with a carefree lifestyle if they value you at all, they'll at minimal support you going and making a stand for something. Maybe even join you for the thought of you being imprisoned for life scares her shitless. She might even pull the kids out of school too! Can't be the only swinging dick doing battle with mental midgets. That's how they win, we lose. One guy shows up? Neither side will take them serious... but 100+ in town hall lockstep in saying NO! Because [logical reasons economic reasons that squash feeble irrelevant feelz] then you'll be taken serious. I know. I've fought these shit heels since I was a teenager. The older conservatives deemed me chicken little. Boy who cries wolf. That'll never happen. Leftist cityiot shit bags wrote me off as rebel without a cause to be ignored. I watched my rural home town become an urbanized shit hole to appease shit bags from the city. I've seen the town police department shit canned wholesale via defunding by referendum on local ballot initative. You name it. I probably saw it and fought it. Too bad I could only get the local farmers to join me when they were targetted for a mass land grab to build even more tract housing HOAs. What happened in that small upstate NY town is down right corrupt and criminal to the core. But retards didn't do their part to prevent it. They enabled it. Defended it. More jobz! Until the cityiots started contracting those mcmansions to their cousin Tony from dah brawnx. Who's union. Naive shit for brains told to go be poor somewhere else when their property values skyrocketed. Excited about selling their house for a profit. Until those property tax and school tax bills came in the mail That and capital gains tax really made them change their minds quick. After taxes? They'd have less money than they would if they sold at a loss. Think Muh property valuez is a good thing? Lol wait til you get a property tax bill for 5 6 7 8 10 12 15k and you used to pay 1k-2,500 tops. Wait til the rules for thee not for me clashes with don't like the laws I enforce, change them. The laws won't be changed, the enforcers employment status will. Think by losing a tax payer funded service will lower your taxes? nope.Again, I think alot of why we lose and they win...Many here haven't truly lost something yet. So rather than risking attention or being known for making a stance? Complacently hope an elected representative does their job and doesn't capitulate or compromise with "friends across the aisle"... You've got so much to lose you say? I call bullshit for if that were the case you wouldn't sit idly by while they indoctrinate your kids, while they climb corporates ladder, while they put you in a predicament of don't express your beliefs values and ideals or lose your job and with that your ability to spoil the spouse and kids. So you'd rather lose, just incrementally not all at once... Sounds like. Cuck shit to me. You've lost and don't even know it yet. Unless you own your own business. Then you can troll back for lols when the bad reviews flood. |
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Quoted: The Republic is certainly over. Simply accept that, and move on to what's next. We will be another shithole, with a vast, ignorant lower class squatting in the ruins of a once prosperous civilization. Dominated by a small elite controlling the levers of power. I've stopped concerning myself about the past. I'm working to ensure that MY grandkids are running the shit show to come. My youngest son has started calling America 2020 a "Pre-Apocalyptic Society." I think that's a relatively accurate assessment. |
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Quoted: There are few simple ones. Non homogenous society. Some segments of our society don't share the ideals and culture that make a successful powerful nation. They perpetuate criminal, leechlike behavior that rots society. They are allowed to do this because: #2 Universal suffrage. If someone with no stake gets a say, the system will crumble. You can see it happening right now. All the rest of the ills listed in this thread will pretty much stem from those two. Boom. Expansion of the franchise is an unmitigated disaster. And there are plenty in GD who are all about muh dumocrasy. As far as the makeup of society, it would be fine, if everyone agreed on a set of values. Equality of opportunity (not outcome), equal justice under the law (no special protected classes), liberty for all, protection of private property. Different ethnicities can get along fine, provided they agree on basic values. |
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Quoted: I guess it's all final then? Quoted: Quoted: The decline of the middle class. The middle class has been decimated by both the left and the right over decades. Big business wants to cut and cut labor costs. They support expanded immigration, crushing unions, and offshoring. Progressive liberals want strangling regulations, high taxes, and expanded immigration. The two sides have, over the years, enacted policies to make the rich richer, and the poor more plentiful. The middle class has been hollowed out. Liberals call it increased income inequality, which is true, but they've done as much as the Republicans to make it happen. It's a healthy, significant middle class that votes for rational candidates. A growing, illiterate lower class votes for irrational candidates. Put another way, the FSA fouls up elections for everyone else. I don't have a solution, just an empty rant. Good night. I guess it's all final then? I don't have a solution. Surely, people smarter than me have ideas. But the likelihood of what exists 20 years from now being in the same vein of what America's nature was 20 years ago is slim to none. The change we're going through is transformative, and voting isn't going to stop it. (See other posts on universal suffrage.) |
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Quoted:Lol, another zero sum argument... there’s wealth floating all over the place, don’t blame your inability to capture it on some generational warfare boogey man bullshit. My father used to tell me that my fortunes hinged in politely convincing others to part with their money for a good or service. Stop relying on the state to pave the road to the cliff for you... You're looking at individual situations, which are not even relevant. Pointing to the successful black market operator in Soviet Russia talking about how good he has it does not mitigate the large-scale failure of the system. |
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