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12/12/2019 2:49:16 PM EDT
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Two opposing cheeks on the same ass.  Working together to shit on America.
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You use your tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore.
12/12/2019 2:54:22 PM EDT
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What's legal is bad enough, but it seems that in Trump's case, and in many others, even the limited legal restrictions on surveillance are being ignored.  That's not surprising, but takes some of the edge off of claims of hypocrisy.
12/12/2019 2:56:25 PM EDT
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Can anybody show me a single domestic terror attack this unconstitutional golem has prevented?

I know I can cite at least one attack that was handed to the FBI on a silver platter by the Russians and they still did nothing to stop the Boston Marathon Bombers.

As long as humans are "in the loop" the information will be abused.

Look at Barack H Obama, he got his own start in IL politics by having access to sealed family court records.

Now an Executive level Counter-Intelligence Investigation of the opposing party's Presidential Candidate has been revealed, Counter-Intelligence operations of that importance cannot happen without POTUS consent or at least knowing about.

These power-hungry politicians have proven Man is incapable of the discipline and restraint necessary to wield access to so much illegal and unconstitutional information.   The DDR Stasi was nothing compared to this, they couldn't follow EVERY East German, could read every single piece of mail in real time, couldn't monitor every single phonecall and I'd bet record all cellular and fiberoptic voice transmissions.

There are still means with due process with which they can look at the really bad guys, the government needs to be kept on a short leash, preferably with a choker or pinch collar that easily brings them to heel.
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The Stasi, KGB, and DGI would be furiously and fanatically masturbating at the speed to light to where their dicks would combust into flames at the thought of having 1/3 of the abilities the US Intelligence Communities have on the population.
12/12/2019 3:08:39 PM EDT
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Either the Republicans and the Democrats are two sides of the same coin, or they are the dumbest naïve mother fuckers to believe the government can be trusted to guard our rights.  Take your pick!  Who with one bit of intelligence didn't see this happening?  It's the ruling class against the citizenry period.
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They are like arfcom, they get both...
12/12/2019 3:22:19 PM EDT
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Sorry homie, OP is right about this.

There are scant few, if any, conservatives "like us" in the halls of government.

The Purple Party reigns supreme.
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Sorry homie, OP is right about this.

There are scant few, if any, conservatives "like us" in the halls of government.

The Purple Party reigns supreme.
I get it and I don't like it, either. However, even though the shitty laws give both political parties equal opportunity, the outcomes are completely different.

Don't think Trump has the right to bitch about it? Fine. The 62,000,000 American citizens that voted for him do, though.
12/13/2019 9:06:46 AM EDT
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I get it and I don't like it, either. However, even though the shitty laws give both political parties equal opportunity, the outcomes are completely different.

Don't think Trump has the right to bitch about it? Fine. The 62,000,000 American citizens that voted for him do, though.
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The 62 million that voted for him are still getting fucked good and hard by the GOP and the Democrats. Both sides are spit roasting the American Public.
12/13/2019 9:36:27 AM EDT
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The 62 million that voted for him are still getting fucked good and hard by the GOP and the Democrats. Both sides are spit roasting the American Public.
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12/13/2019 9:41:46 AM EDT
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Republicans Condemn FBI's Use of Surveillance Powers They Long Supported

One by one, Republican senators expressed outrage Wednesday that the Federal Bureau of Investigation had committed errors in how it sought and obtained surveillance on a former Trump campaign adviser, describing the findings contained in a new inspector general report as evidence of alarming privacy violations that could be wielded against any American.

The concerns echoed those made by civil liberties advocates for decades. But they came this time from self-described national security hawks who have long voted to renew and expand U.S. surveillance powers
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Oh, so now that the beast they created was used against them they're suddenly angry. They support the US Patriot Act, the creation of the beast that is the Department of Homeland Security, the expansion of surveillance powers by the FBI and other agencies, and the ludicrously named USA Freedom Act.

In an impassioned opening statement, Sen. Lindsey Graham, the Republican chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, railed against what he described as a loose system of oversight at the FBI that allowed investigators to push forward with a counterintelligence investigation into Mr. Trump's 2016 presidential campaign. He said the FBI "defrauded" the secretive FISA court with its applications for surveillance on the former campaign adviser, Carter Page, and compared the FBI's actions to abuses discovered after Watergate.

"It's as if J. Edgar Hoover came back to life," Sen. Graham said, invoking the name of the FBI's long-tenured previous director who oversaw spying on civil rights activists, including Martin Luther King Jr.

Acknowledging that he proudly considered himself a "pretty hawkish guy," Mr. Graham said he would hate to rein in the FISA process given foreign security threats to the U.S. "But after your report, I have serious concerns about whether the FISA court can continue unless there's fundamental reform," Mr. Graham said.
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Hey Lindsey, the American People have been stating from the get go that the secretive government surveillance of the public is fucking wrong you brain addled troglodyte.

Also referring to himself as a "national security hawk," Sen. Ben Sasse (R., Neb.), said he had previously ignored warnings about the possibility that surveillance powers could be abused, believing "that stuff like this just couldn't possibly happen at the FBI and Department of Justice."

Both Sens. Graham and Sasse have repeatedly voted to renew and in some cases widen existing surveillance authorities, including those held by the FBI. President Trump, too, has pushed to maintain the intelligence community's spying capabilities, despite his repeated lacerations of those agencies.
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Another fucking 'tard that brushed off the concerns of the public is suddenly concerned because he learned it could be used against him and his own self interests!

Earlier this year, for example, the Trump White House moved to permanently preserve a National Security Agency surveillance program that collects U.S. call metadata even though it has been shut down because of repeated compliance issuesspurning the advice of some senior intelligence officials who said it no longer held national security value. ....

Previous administrations, including that of Democrat Barack Obama, have also vigorously fought efforts to curtail or make more transparent FISA proceedings.
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Shocked I say, shocked! That both the Trump Administration and the Obama Administration wanted to keep the secret collection of information gathered on the American People accessible and more importantly. Hidden from the public.

Attorney General William Barr, too, has said he wants to consider changes to the FISA process in the wake of Mr. Horowitz's report, though he has shown deference to surveillance programs in the past.

During his last stint as attorney general in the early 1990s, Mr. Barr signed off on a secret surveillance program that allowed the Drug Enforcement Administration to collect in bulk records of Americans' international calls. That program relied on a loose statutory interpretation of the word "relevant" that later undergirded the NSA's own bulk phone surveillance program that was revealed by former intelligence contractor Edward Snowden in 2013.
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Barr is now suddenly angered that the very system he helped create and defend can be used against him? Say it isn't so!

https://theamericancitadel.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/rd4.jpg?w=638

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/8e5074454fcc.jpg

The Republicans and the Democrats are the opposite sides of the same coin. GOVERNMENT. Both create laws, agencies, and systems that are used to crush the plebeian serfs that are the commoners. Both play the game of being on different sides, when in reality behind closed doors they all fuck the same whore, drink the same liquor, and do a line of coke off the other whore's ass. They all laugh while fleecing the public and taking turns being in power.
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12/13/2019 9:51:19 AM EDT
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How about Trumps hypocrisy with supporting NSA spying powers all in the name of security, for the children, while complaining about the same being used against him during the 2016 election.

The GOP under Trump is completely complacent here except for Rand Paul and very few others.
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How about Trumps hypocrisy with supporting NSA spying powers all in the name of security, for the children, while complaining about the same being used against him during the 2016 election.

The GOP under Trump is completely complacent here except for Rand Paul and very few others.
Rand supported section 702 reauth

"I will filibuster and do whatever to stop that."Paul said he would vote to reauthorize Section 702, however, if there are protections in place for Americans' private information
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Congress-about-to-vote-on-NSA-surveillance/5-2069676/

Trump also trashed the bill, then supported it

then a few hours later

Thanks to Bullet_Sponge for making us aware of those tweets
12/13/2019 10:02:46 AM EDT
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Can anybody show me a single domestic terror attack this unconstitutional golem has prevented?
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Our idiotic government can't even stop the terror attacks they themselves instigate
12/13/2019 10:08:08 AM EDT
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This .gif doesn't get used enough in teh interwebs,
12/13/2019 10:10:58 AM EDT
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Here is one better - they are not only two sides of the same coin.

BOTH the Repubs and Democrats are OWNED by the same globalist scumbags and corporations.

I am not just talking about the obvious ones like Soros, Bloomberg but people who stay out of the limelight like the Koch brothers, that guy Adelson, the Bush family, the Kennedys, Goldman Sachs and a ton of others that most of us have never heard their name. They are all in it together to make themselves richer.

Fundamentally neither one gives a shit about the citizens of this country which is why neither one does jack shit about the illegal immigration, the refugee bullshit and lots of other things.

The reality is that the general public is the enemy to them and might interfere with their money making schemes.
12/13/2019 10:12:56 AM EDT
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We are using the wrong terms.....

People get too wrapped up in R vs D. It is not that. They are all PROGRESSIVES. A progressive can be any party and likely could describe 100% of dems at the federal level and 98% of Republicans at the federal level. I do believe it gets better for Republicans at the state and local levels, somewhat anyway.

We live under a nanny police state. Freedom as we knew it is dead. The ideals this country was founded under are dead. In the end, people are just really nefarious and power hungry fucks.

We need a mass die off like an asteroid or a plague to even have a remote chance for freedom to return.
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Statists

The correct word is STATISTS

"favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom."
12/13/2019 10:15:36 AM EDT
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Sorry but it’s a well known fact that conservatives don’t meme or recognize hypocrisy in their own party.

But thanks for playing.
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Why do you post here on this website? Are you just here to be an edge lord troll?
12/13/2019 10:18:59 AM EDT
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And yet, it's still the Liberals that are the Violent ones that need to be surveilled.
12/13/2019 10:29:45 AM EDT
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I don’t get the hate going towards Miami. I’m new and every post I read from the dude is nothing but facts.
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Many simpletons blindly follow their "team" and feel like their votes represent a "right" vs "wrong" choice. When you point out that the results are basically the same that's hard for their brains to process and anger results.
12/13/2019 10:40:37 AM EDT
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I'm here pointing out that the Republicans supported the usurpation of civil liberties too and you think that is being a Jack Booted Thug?

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*Rails against the surveillance state*

*Also works for the surveillance state*

12/13/2019 10:43:11 AM EDT
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*Rails against the surveillance state*

*Also works for the surveillance state*

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I'm here pointing out that the Republicans supported the usurpation of civil liberties too and you think that is being a Jack Booted Thug?

LOL
*Rails against the surveillance state*

*Also works for the surveillance state*

Gotta make a living somehow. Also that sweet dental plan. Look at the work they do.
12/13/2019 10:46:21 AM EDT
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Gotta make a living somehow. Also that sweet dental plan. Look at the work they do.
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12/13/2019 10:51:47 AM EDT
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The Stasi, KGB, and DGI would be furiously and fanatically masturbating at the speed to light to where their dicks would combust into flames at the thought of having 1/3 of the abilities the US Intelligence Communities have on the population.
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Agreed. Add to the fact that those in power always seem to see themselves as virtuous instead of inherently flawed/sinful/selfish. Dangerous is not even in the ballpark as a descriptor. No one can have this power and be expected to wield it justly. No one.
12/13/2019 10:54:17 AM EDT
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Gotta make a living somehow. Also that sweet dental plan. Look at the work they do.
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I'm here pointing out that the Republicans supported the usurpation of civil liberties too and you think that is being a Jack Booted Thug?

LOL
*Rails against the surveillance state*

*Also works for the surveillance state*

Gotta make a living somehow. Also that sweet dental plan. Look at the work they do.
Bah, I picture M_JBT as the Ron Swanson of his office. Prove me wrong.
12/13/2019 11:00:30 AM EDT
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Something Miami_JBT and I agree on.  Thank the GOPe and the Shrub for unprecidented surveillance on US citizens.
12/13/2019 11:15:33 AM EDT
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I love the edge lords that are so edgy they can't see that Globalist GOP and Statist DNC are absolutely losing their shit because neither of them can control Trump. But, hey, Trump has an R next to his name and he hasn't completely changed the system in three years so he is obviously one of them...or something.

For folks that say they hate Soros, you all are damn good at doing his bidding.
12/13/2019 11:22:06 AM EDT
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They're all the same
12/13/2019 11:23:19 AM EDT
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Bah, I picture M_JBT as the Ron Swanson of his office. Prove me wrong.
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I'm here pointing out that the Republicans supported the usurpation of civil liberties too and you think that is being a Jack Booted Thug?

LOL
*Rails against the surveillance state*

*Also works for the surveillance state*

Gotta make a living somehow. Also that sweet dental plan. Look at the work they do.
Bah, I picture M_JBT as the Ron Swanson of his office. Prove me wrong.
LOL
12/13/2019 11:24:02 AM EDT
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I love the edge lords that are so edgy they can't see that Globalist GOP and Statist DNC are absolutely losing their shit because neither of them can control Trump. But, hey, Trump has an R next to his name and he hasn't completely changed the system in three years so he is obviously one of them...or something.

For folks that say they hate Soros, you all are damn good at doing his bidding.
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It's all a show
12/13/2019 11:25:42 AM EDT
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For some reason, the rank-and-file Republican voter, and the Republicans they elect, just can't wrap their heads around the utter importance of privacy.  It's really frustrating.
12/13/2019 11:30:25 AM EDT
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But we need these powers to stop terrorists drug dealers child porn collusion!
12/13/2019 11:57:30 AM EDT
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High on my list is to make one big pile of license plate readers and burn them, along with traffic cams. And tar and feather the ones who allowed/got paid to run those through. At least here in TN people in the know just wad up the traffic cam notice and toss it in the trash.
12/13/2019 2:49:08 PM EDT
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Democrat and Republican politicians are the same side of the same coin, just claiming to be different.  They are paid by the same masters and believe in the same thing - enriching themselves and doing whatever it takes to stay in power.

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