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9/4/2020 10:38:16 PM EDT
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I thought that was Adam Savage.  Cool.
9/5/2020 4:10:52 AM EDT
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I remember watching the video below of him talking about his favorite books a while back. Listening to him gleefully talk about the white man finally being put on trial for their sins was seriously disturbing and left me doing this:

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Adam Savage''s Top 5 Science Fiction Books


Fuck him.
9/6/2020 12:15:28 AM EDT
[#3]
These hybrid things are fuckin' creepy.
9/6/2020 12:25:16 AM EDT
[#4]
I dig the show, and I may or may not have a Rocinante lego build.
9/6/2020 1:07:16 AM EDT
[#5]
"You can fly me anytime"

9/6/2020 10:17:42 PM EDT
[#6]
Miller?!

WTF
9/7/2020 2:55:15 PM EDT
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Doors and corners, kid
9/7/2020 7:52:54 PM EDT
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Just because I'm a nerd, I decided to see how fast the Rocinante was traveling when Alex called Bobbie in S4E1.  I noticed a "Trans. Delay" counter on the video, and noticed it was increasing....fast.

Start of the call: transmission delay was 1.18 seconds.
End of the call: transmission delay was 3.18 seconds.
This change in delay took place over approximately 46 seconds of video time, which seemed to be "real time" as the conversation carried on the entire time with no breaks.

Disregarding processing times for video calls, this means the Rocinante was 219,800 miles away from Bobbie when the video started, and was 592,400 miles when the video ended.

Total distance traveled: ~372,600 miles in 46 seconds.

Convert to mph: Rocinante was traveling at approximately 29,150,000mph

Convert to c: 4.3% of c.
9/7/2020 8:19:28 PM EDT
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Just because I'm a nerd, I decided to see how fast the Rocinante was traveling when Alex called Bobbie in S4E1.  I noticed a "Trans. Delay" counter on the video, and noticed it was increasing....fast.

Start of the call: transmission delay was 1.18 seconds.
End of the call: transmission delay was 3.18 seconds.
This change in delay took place over approximately 46 seconds of video time, which seemed to be "real time" as the conversation carried on the entire time with no breaks.

Disregarding processing times for video calls, this means the Rocinante was 219,800 miles away from Bobbie when the video started, and was 592,400 miles when the video ended.

Total distance traveled: ~372,600 miles in 46 seconds.

Convert to mph: Rocinante was traveling at approximately 29,150,000mph

Convert to c: 4.3% of c.
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How many satellites did it bounce through, did the path change during that time, how was network traffic, etc?

Or really, Hollywood doesn't do the math.


Kharn
9/7/2020 8:33:52 PM EDT
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How many satellites did it bounce through, did the path change during that time, how was network traffic, etc?

Or really, Hollywood doesn't do the math.


Kharn
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Just because I'm a nerd, I decided to see how fast the Rocinante was traveling when Alex called Bobbie in S4E1.  I noticed a "Trans. Delay" counter on the video, and noticed it was increasing....fast.

Start of the call: transmission delay was 1.18 seconds.
End of the call: transmission delay was 3.18 seconds.
This change in delay took place over approximately 46 seconds of video time, which seemed to be "real time" as the conversation carried on the entire time with no breaks.

Disregarding processing times for video calls, this means the Rocinante was 219,800 miles away from Bobbie when the video started, and was 592,400 miles when the video ended.

Total distance traveled: ~372,600 miles in 46 seconds.

Convert to mph: Rocinante was traveling at approximately 29,150,000mph

Convert to c: 4.3% of c.

How many satellites did it bounce through, did the path change during that time, how was network traffic, etc?

Or really, Hollywood doesn't do the math.


Kharn

Believe it or not, I'm actually betting they left that there on purpose just to show how fast the ships are.  Remember they can supposedly accelerate constantly at ridiculous G numbers, and that adds up fast over short periods of time.
9/7/2020 8:51:46 PM EDT
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Believe it or not, I'm actually betting they left that there on purpose just to show how fast the ships are.  Remember they can supposedly accelerate constantly at ridiculous G numbers, and that adds up fast over short periods of time.
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Even just 1 G of acceleration will get you smoking along in short order.
9/7/2020 9:54:57 PM EDT
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I'm really starting to dislike Naomi.  She's just got a damn attitude about everything.
9/7/2020 10:13:16 PM EDT
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I started with Book 1 after watching the first season. Then I decided to read the books after the series ends.

I don't want to be reading books and watching a different series (ala GOT). Even a few differences throws it off for me.

Either way I love the show and am happy with that as there are very few sci-fi series nowadays that aren't rubbish.

Luckily Amazon, err Bezos, picked it up after Sy-Fy channel stupidly decided to dump it.
9/8/2020 3:41:20 AM EDT
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I rather disliked her before the first half of Season 1 was over.  Nothing I've seen in four seasons has done anything to change that.
9/8/2020 8:06:57 AM EDT
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TV Naomi is definitely not a very likable character. She’s not as bad in the books.
9/8/2020 1:03:39 PM EDT
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TV Naomi is definitely not a very likable character. She's not as bad in the books.
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I'm really starting to dislike Naomi.  She's just got a damn attitude about everything.

TV Naomi is definitely not a very likable character. She's not as bad in the books.

That's good to hear.  She's my least favorite character on the show.
9/8/2020 1:04:58 PM EDT
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That's good to hear.  She's my least favorite character on the show.
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I'm really starting to dislike Naomi.  She's just got a damn attitude about everything.

TV Naomi is definitely not a very likable character. She's not as bad in the books.

That's good to hear.  She's my least favorite character on the show.

I think they tried too hard to do “womyn power” with the TV character. It was unnecessary and comes off very unnatural.
9/8/2020 1:22:24 PM EDT
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Just because I'm a nerd, I decided to see how fast the Rocinante was traveling when Alex called Bobbie in S4E1.  I noticed a "Trans. Delay" counter on the video, and noticed it was increasing....fast.

Start of the call: transmission delay was 1.18 seconds.
End of the call: transmission delay was 3.18 seconds.
This change in delay took place over approximately 46 seconds of video time, which seemed to be "real time" as the conversation carried on the entire time with no breaks.

Disregarding processing times for video calls, this means the Rocinante was 219,800 miles away from Bobbie when the video started, and was 592,400 miles when the video ended.

Total distance traveled: ~372,600 miles in 46 seconds.

Convert to mph: Rocinante was traveling at approximately 29,150,000mph

Convert to c: 4.3% of c.
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Just because I'm a nerd, I decided to see how fast the Rocinante was traveling when Alex called Bobbie in S4E1.  I noticed a "Trans. Delay" counter on the video, and noticed it was increasing....fast.

Start of the call: transmission delay was 1.18 seconds.
End of the call: transmission delay was 3.18 seconds.
This change in delay took place over approximately 46 seconds of video time, which seemed to be "real time" as the conversation carried on the entire time with no breaks.

Disregarding processing times for video calls, this means the Rocinante was 219,800 miles away from Bobbie when the video started, and was 592,400 miles when the video ended.

Total distance traveled: ~372,600 miles in 46 seconds.

Convert to mph: Rocinante was traveling at approximately 29,150,000mph

Convert to c: 4.3% of c.


Sol Epstein (in the literature) brought his first-gen drive up to 5% of c after 37 hours of acceleration when his fuel finally ran out and that was a little over 130 years before the events of Book/Season 1.

He's a bit on the Rocinante's on-screen performance:

Thrust: 6,370,000 N
Specific Impulse (isp): 1,927,000 seconds
Exhaust Velocity (ve): 18,900,000 m/second (6.8% of light speed)
Mass Flow Rate: 2.2 kg/second
Thrust Power: 60.2 Terawatt
Total power output: 96.8 Terawatt
Engine's Thrust to Weight Ratio: Presumably over 3 (The Roci has a dry TWR of 2.6)
Fusion type: D-He3 (1:2 mixture ratio)
Fusion pulse rate: "[what we see] can be achieved with as few as 10 pulses per second, or hundreds if possible"
9/8/2020 1:40:55 PM EDT
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She is by far my least likes character.  Watching the whole series again with my son and I disliked her the first time around but this time it's even worse.
9/8/2020 1:42:53 PM EDT
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Ummm...pics???  MOC or did you go off of other plans?
9/8/2020 5:23:26 PM EDT
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Even just 1 G of acceleration will get you smoking along in short order.
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Believe it or not, I'm actually betting they left that there on purpose just to show how fast the ships are.  Remember they can supposedly accelerate constantly at ridiculous G numbers, and that adds up fast over short periods of time.

Even just 1 G of acceleration will get you smoking along in short order.


The books are pretty bad about this too, especially the later ones.  Basically the authors have said all the travel is done for story purposes.

There's a simple equation for constant-g acceleration, it's pretty eye opening even when half the trip is deceleration.  And it's pretty interesting to think about the advantages an Earth navy might have because they cruise at 1g and could do serious time at 2 or 3, and briefly at 10+ with the juice and couches, versus Belters who are uncomfortable at 1.

Some of the book parts that sounded wrong are at least a month from Earth to the ring which is outside Neptune.  Even if the orbits are exactly wrong and you have to detour around the sun, you would have to be poking along at 0.1g or something like that.  And the trip to New Terra takes this huge amount of time in the book, like months for the science ship and a month for the Roci at a "punishing" (for Naomi) 2?g with short breaks for food.  The one I really remember is a story about Holden in the Earth navy, saying they did an emergency trip from Earth to Mars that took a week at 4ish g and how hard it was.

There's also the fuel issue which they have made into a bigger deal as the books went on (I haven't seen season 4 on tv yet).  From the initial descriptions of the Epstein drive it seemed to be that it used very little fuel.  That's why they can afford constant-g acceleration, their ships are wholly built around it.  I even thought Epstein's ship was still accelerating out there all these years later.
9/11/2020 4:11:15 AM EDT
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It’s a micro build from Brickvault.
Linky
9/11/2020 7:44:46 AM EDT
[#23]
Took me two tries.  I first watched Season one a year or so back, couldn't get past ep 3.  A couple motnhs ago, came back to it looking for something to watch.  Binged it all the way thru and I love this show.
Amos is my favorite character
Naomi is like the least
Bobbi- Would smash
Alex is going to get Danny Masterson'd(killed off and replaced)
9/12/2020 12:29:14 AM EDT
[#24]
Amos is such a Chad.
9/12/2020 12:39:58 AM EDT
[#25]
A buddy of mine loves this show.

I guess I'll give it a go now that I see even ARFCOM likes it.
9/12/2020 9:36:45 PM EDT
[#26]
"Are you sure it's safe down there?"

"Nope."
9/12/2020 9:39:21 PM EDT
[#27]
First half of season one was slow but well worth it. Awesome show.  Season two rocked
9/12/2020 10:35:49 PM EDT
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Avasarala has quite the potty-mouth in Season 4.
9/12/2020 10:48:22 PM EDT
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Not really, they just made it more accurate once it went to Amazon.
9/12/2020 10:59:13 PM EDT
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Gotcha, I haven't read the books.
9/12/2020 11:00:36 PM EDT
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Avasarala has quite the potty-mouth in Season 4.

Not really, they just made it more accurate once it went to Amazon.

Gotcha, I haven't read the books.

That woman has some very floral profanity.
9/12/2020 11:20:58 PM EDT
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Fred Johnson has that Coolio look going on.
9/13/2020 12:50:09 AM EDT
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Avasarala has quite the potty-mouth in Season 4.

Not really, they just made it more accurate once it went to Amazon.

Gotcha, I haven't read the books.

That woman has some very floral profanity.

She's even better in the books, although she doesn't actually show up until book 2 or 3(IIRC).  

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Cutty in Spaaaaaaaaace!
I can't recall if it was here or some other forum, but there were some interesting comments about the character being similar to Cutty in The Wire, that he had really bad stuff in the past but was trying to do good, and always being judged on his past.
9/13/2020 12:54:22 AM EDT
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I really, really, really want to punch Murtry in the face.
9/13/2020 1:18:14 AM EDT
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Amos checks that box.
9/13/2020 1:37:25 AM EDT
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This thread needs more Naomi.

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9/13/2020 2:00:46 AM EDT
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The Epstein Drive is a mature Torch Drive. That is, it has both high thrust and high specific impulse (usually you have to choose one or the other).

Torch drives are fun, because they let you use brachistochrone trajectories, burning straight at your destination, flipping halfway and then decelerating. Short flight times, and you get constant thrust gravity. You can move out anytime you want to, as well....no need to wait for windows, like with Hohman Transfer trajectories.

Doesn't need any sci-fi physics, but we just haven't figured out how to do it yet.  We need more fusion research.
9/13/2020 2:10:21 AM EDT
[#38]
Ok it's 2:10am and I finally just finished all 4 seasons.

Bedtime.
9/13/2020 1:39:46 PM EDT
[#39]
And don't stick your dick in it, because it's already fucked
9/13/2020 2:24:51 PM EDT
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Before she got that stupid chest tattoo, yes.
On my rewatch I will have to screenshot the time she was walking up the ladder in season 3.  Whoa, that's a good flight suit.
9/13/2020 5:08:31 PM EDT
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I don’t understand the praise for this show. Watched the first season and it was interesting in some ways, but really annoying in other ways. Could be the politics. Watched halfway through first episode of the second season and turned it off. Never going to watch the rest.

But of course, if you like it, enjoy it.

9/13/2020 6:09:32 PM EDT
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I don’t understand the praise for this show. Watched the first season and it was interesting in some ways, but really annoying in other ways. Could be the politics. Watched halfway through first episode of the second season and turned it off. Never going to watch the rest.

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Out of curiosity, what sort of shows do you find engaging and worthwhile?
9/13/2020 8:56:28 PM EDT
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9/13/2020 11:17:32 PM EDT
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Apparently they're going to announce tomorrow that they discovered life on Venus.

Fuck.
9/13/2020 11:25:02 PM EDT
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I don't understand the praise for this show. Watched the first season and it was interesting in some ways, but really annoying in other ways. Could be the politics. Watched halfway through first episode of the second season and turned it off. Never going to watch the rest.

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The Michael Bay section is to the left
9/14/2020 4:10:34 PM EDT
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Apparently they're going to announce tomorrow that they discovered life on Venus.

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That was a big nothingburger.
9/15/2020 4:06:20 PM EDT
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Firefly was great. I also liked Stargate Universe. I guess it’s been a while since I found something I liked

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